In leftnav.inc, you have this line:

@@JS:if(!template.node_list.length || http_request.virtual_path=="/nodelist.ssjs")'<!--';@@
<span class="text1">Currently Online..</span><br

<table class="left_nodelist"><tbody><<REPEAT node_list>><tr>

<td class="left_nodelist"><span class="text2">%%node_list:name%%
%%node_list:action%%</span></td></tr><<END REPEAT
node_list>></tbody></table>
@@JS:if(!template.node_list.length || http_request.virtual_path=="/nodelist.ssjs")'-->';@@

From my understanding, if no one is online or nodelist.ssjs is

requested, the Currently Online code is commented out.

So if I do this after:


@@JS:if(!http_request.virtual_path=="/nodelist.ssjs")'<!--';@@
<span class="text1">Info to display with Nodelist.ssjs</span><br /><table class="left_nodelist"><tbody><tr></tbody></table>

@@JS:if(!http_request.virtual_path=="/nodelist.ssjs")'-->';@@

I am saying if the request is NOT for nodelist.ssjs, the Info to display
code should be commented out, correct?

The objective is thus: When you first connect to the website, you have
the currently online list in leftnav.ssjs
If you go to nodelist.ssjs, I want to display some text where currently
online was.

Any ideas as to my bungle?

Thanks,

Mindless Automaton
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@@JS:if(!http_request.virtual_path=="/nodelist.ssjs")'<!--';@@ @@JS:if(!http_request.virtual_path=="/nodelist.ssjs")'-->';@@

Try:

@@JS:if(http_request.virtual_path!="/nodelist.ssjs")'<!--';@@ @@JS:if(http_request.virtual_path!="/nodelist.ssjs")'-->';@@

Let me know ...

-RM.

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Re: Re: Am not!
By: RuneMaster to Mindless Automaton on Thu Jan 26 2006 11:15 pm

@@JS:if(!http_request.virtual_path=="/nodelist.ssjs")'<!--';@@ @@JS:if(!http_request.virtual_path=="/nodelist.ssjs")'-->';@@

Try:

@@JS:if(http_request.virtual_path!="/nodelist.ssjs")'<!--';@@ @@JS:if(http_request.virtual_path!="/nodelist.ssjs")'-->';@@

Let me know ...

-RM.

hmm, I knew a person who couldn't program without java.
err, had to stop at starbucks before work...

This message has ended, go in peace...

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Re: Re: Am not!
By: Corey to RuneMaster on Fri Jan 27 2006 08:04 am

Re: Re: Am not!
By: RuneMaster to Mindless Automaton on Thu Jan 26 2006 11:15 pm

@@JS:if(!http_request.virtual_path=="/nodelist.ssjs")'<!--';@@ @@JS:if(!http_request.virtual_path=="/nodelist.ssjs")'-->';@@

Try:

@@JS:if(http_request.virtual_path!="/nodelist.ssjs")'<!--';@@ @@JS:if(http_request.virtual_path!="/nodelist.ssjs")'-->';@@

Let me know ...

-RM.

hmm, I knew a person who couldn't program without java.
err, had to stop at starbucks before work...

This message has ended, go in peace...

okay, that was bad.
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RuneMaster wrote:

Try:

@@JS:if(http_request.virtual_path!="/nodelist.ssjs")'<!--';@@ @@JS:if(http_request.virtual_path!="/nodelist.ssjs")'-->';@@

Let me know ...

-RM.

Aye, aye. Is working good..


Many thanks!

-Mindless Automaton
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Aye, aye. Is working good..

Ah, good.

Many thanks!

You're welcome.

-RM.

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RuneMaster wrote:

Aye, aye. Is working good..

Ah, good.

Many thanks!

You're welcome.

-RM.

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If you want to check out my butchery of your nice Synchronet html/js setup:

http://eldritch.darktech.org/

very much under construction of course..

Mindless Automaton
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If you want to check out my butchery of your nice Synchronet html/js setup:

http://eldritch.darktech.org/

very much under construction of course..

Comming along nicely :)

-RM.

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RuneMaster wrote:

If you want to check out my butchery of your nice Synchronet html/js setup:

http://eldritch.darktech.org/

very much under construction of course..

Comming along nicely :)

Of course I cheated and bought a layout. :o It wasn't as hard as I
though to get it working with the template system. Now all I have to do
is put some more time into it to finish it off and add whatever else I
want..

-Mindless Automaton
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Re: Re: Am not!
By: Mindless Automaton to RuneMaster on Fri Feb 03 2006 02:34 pm

RuneMaster wrote:

Aye, aye. Is working good..

Ah, good.

Many thanks!

You're welcome.

-RM.

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If you want to check out my butchery of your nice Synchronet html/js setup:

http://eldritch.darktech.org/

very much under construction of course..

Mindless Automaton

yeah, i heard that [insert vulger comment here] Timewarrior is your co-developer on 'SyncWeb'.

what's up with that?
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yeah, i heard that [insert vulger comment here] Timewarrior is your co-developer on 'SyncWeb'.

Nope. He works on Third Party stuff. I help him out. What goes on there does not in any way have anything to do with Synchronet Development. I offer a test system and a completely seperate CVS for *anyone* interested in poking around with some new ideas.

However, there have been a couple decent ideas to come out of the noise that is generated and I take those ideas if they seem fit for official development.

While I cannot say that dealing with him has not been without some frustration, he has not given me cause to [insert vulgar comment here]

And he has had some intersting ideas.

Anyone is welcome to post suggestions, bug reports, feature requests, etc at the development server:

http://syncdev.darktech.org:6080/

I also hang out on #SyncDev on IRC as well as #Sunchronet

I appreciate your concerns, but trust me, if thing get too frustrating, I will allow you the please of those comments :)

-RM.

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Re: Re: Am not!
By: RuneMaster to Jas Hud on Sat Feb 11 2006 06:23 pm

Nope. He works on Third Party stuff. I help him out. What goes on there d not in any way have anything to do with Synchronet Development. I offer a t system and a completely seperate CVS for *anyone* interested in poking aroun with some new ideas.

well,i know kelso. i know people that know kelso.

yes, the guy has a lot of time on his hands, because he is 27 yrs old and hasnt worked for years, but i think most of us would rather do without his contributions.

the guy's mentally unstable and delusional. that is no exaggeration or joke.
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Re: Re: Am not!
By: RuneMaster to Jas Hud on Sat Feb 11 2006 06:23 pm

Nope. He works on Third Party stuff. I help him out. What goes on

there

d

not in any way have anything to do with Synchronet Development. I offer

a

t

system and a completely seperate CVS for *anyone* interested in poking

aroun

with some new ideas.

well,i know kelso. i know people that know kelso.

yes, the guy has a lot of time on his hands, because he is 27 yrs old and hasnt
worked for years, but i think most of us would rather do without his contributions.

You don't know me and the people you claim to know do not know me either. Only people who have gotten to know me on a more "personal level" beyond a few message exchanges / phone calls even come close to truly knowing me. What you think you know and what is true is two different things, but I prefer it this way. Please keep thinking you know all the facts. It makes things easier for me, oddly enough.

As for Synchweb (or Syncweb, for those who prefer that spelling) you yourself have complimented me on my skill with the web interface so i'm not sure why this surprises you as per your "Why is Kelso your co-developer?" statement.

Also for the record -- I started this project and RM is not only a really cool guy as a person but also a very knowledgable developer. I'd be a fool to not have asked for his assistance.

Only speak for yourself and if you'd rather do work without my contributions, then no one is stopping you nor anyone else who may feel that way. In fact -- I think you should directly compete with me and start your own third party Dev Project. God knows the scene could use the motivation -- and you are a very skilled programmer and developer yourself.

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| www : synchsupport.net - malkaviabbs.com - xpresit.net |
| www$: josephsjewelersonline.com - preferedinsurance.com |
| @: time.warrior@malkaviabbs. com |
\______________________________________________________________/

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If you want to check out my butchery of your nice Synchronet html/js

setup:

http://eldritch.darktech.org/

very much under construction of course..

Comming along nicely :)

I hope theres going to be an "English Version" of this site. Coming along nicely is an understatement! Props to this guy! It's awesome!

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| www : synchsupport.net - malkaviabbs.com - xpresit.net |
| www$: josephsjewelersonline.com - preferedinsurance.com |
| @: time.warrior@malkaviabbs. com |
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Re: Re: Am not!
By: Mindless Automaton to RuneMaster on Fri Feb 03 2006 02:34 pm

RuneMaster wrote:

Aye, aye. Is working good..

Ah, good.

Many thanks!

You're welcome.

-RM.

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If you want to check out my butchery of your nice Synchronet html/js

setup:

http://eldritch.darktech.org/

very much under construction of course..

Mindless Automaton

yeah, i heard that [insert vulger comment here] Timewarrior is your co-developer on 'SyncWeb'.

what's up with that?

You are a more skilled developer than I could ever hope to be if I lived to be 200 years old. So if you have a problem with the fact that I started this third party project, then fix the problem. Start your own. With your skills and that of "your friends" who *cough*know me so well*cough* I seriously, with no sarcasm intended (except towards your more beligerant statements -- my acknowledgement of your skill is 100% serious), encourage you to start your own third party project.

You could easily do better than me, and in much shorter order. So quit bitchin and do it. Walk the walk or don't talk the talk. Your far better at this sort of thing than I am, admittedly -- so I know you are more than capable of walking that walk.

Stop flaming and PWN my efforts with a third party project superior to the one i've started. You say your a superrior modder and you are correct. So get modding.

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| www : synchsupport.net - malkaviabbs.com - xpresit.net |
| www$: josephsjewelersonline.com - preferedinsurance.com |
| @: time.warrior@malkaviabbs. com |
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yeah, i heard that [insert vulger comment here] Timewarrior is your co-developer on 'SyncWeb'.

Nope. He works on Third Party stuff. I help him out. What goes on there does
not in any way have anything to do with Synchronet Development. I offer a test
system and a completely seperate CVS for *anyone* interested in poking

around

with some new ideas.

Yes, and I thank you for your assistance. It is very much appreciated.

However, there have been a couple decent ideas to come out of the noise that is
generated and I take those ideas if they seem fit for official development.

This is quite true -- however I have also inspired your muse for you to pull some new and interesting things out of your own arse as well, so I can't take FULL credit for the new implimentations. I suggested a profile system and what it needs to do, but you designed it. I suggested multi-domain default theme support, but you desiged it. The list goes on.

I am more of an idea guy and someone who is good with cosmetics. I admittedly can not code my way out of a paper bag.

While I cannot say that dealing with him has not been without some frustration,
he has not given me cause to [insert vulgar comment here]

Well hey, your not exactly Mary Poppins either. :-)

We do thrash eachother a bit but it does get results. We've accomplished alot by bouncing ideas around (as well as bouncing eachother around <G>) .. i've enjoyed our voice / chat / email / forum colaberations on this -- as has Ayr30n Kn1ght. He too looks forward to working with us more on this in the near future.

You also have not given me cause to [insert vulgar comment here] but inserting vulgar comments when it's not absolutely nessesary would be tactless, now wouldn't it? :-)

And he has had some intersting ideas.

As have you.

Anyone is welcome to post suggestions, bug reports, feature requests, etc at the development server:

http://syncdev.darktech.org:6080/

I also hang out on #SyncDev on IRC as well as #Sunchronet

I appreciate your concerns, but trust me, if thing get too frustrating, I

will

allow you the please of those comments :)

Yes -- and that would be to post suggestions, bug reports, feature requests, etc... not for attempting to start a pissing contest with me <looks at Jas Hud>

:-)

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| www : synchsupport.net - malkaviabbs.com - xpresit.net |
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| @: time.warrior@malkaviabbs. com |
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I think you should directly compete with me and start your own third party

Dev

Project. God knows the scene could use the motivation -- and you are a very skilled programmer and developer yourself.

Psst, TW, this is not alt.bbs.synchronet ... what the heck are you doing here :P

-RM.

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Stop flaming and PWN my efforts with a third party project superior to the

one

i've started. You say your a superrior modder and you are correct. So get modding.

Just so everyone know. I am neutral in this little thing :)

Common guys, lay them out and measure them and get it over with ;)

-RM.

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Yes -- and that would be to post suggestions, bug reports, feature requests, etc... not for attempting to start a pissing contest with me <looks at Jas

Yeup ...

Again ... this is not alt.bbs.synchronet ... :P

-RM.

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Re: Re: Am not!
By: RuneMaster to Jas Hud on Sat Feb 11 2006 06:23 pm

I also hang out on #SyncDev on IRC as well as #Sunchronet

Hrm... I haven't finished making it go on Sun hardware yet...

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I think you should directly compete with me and start your own third

party

Dev

Project. God knows the scene could use the motivation -- and you are a

very

skilled programmer and developer yourself.

Psst, TW, this is not alt.bbs.synchronet ... what the heck are you doing

here

:P

I knew someone was going to ask that. lol

It's amazing. I don't ask people to do this for me, it just kinda happens. When people such as Jas are, for lack of a better term "talking shit" in message areas that I do not read or am unaware of -- I'll get instant messages from friends saying "Hey Dave, check this out, it's pretty amusing" .. which is exactly what happened in this instance.

One of the two new recruits to the project (I really do need to update the entires on dev.synchsupport.net with that info lol) who I brought in, who is a Sysop friend of mine local to me in the Chicagoland Area -- messaged me about this thread having been amused by the fact that it is Jas who has "too much free time" in all actuality, to have nothing else better to do than yammer on and bitch about me. He figured I would find it just as amusing (and i most certianly DID :-) so he brought it to my attention.

I would never have known this thread existed had it not been for him. If he wishes to take credit, he can feel free. He obviously reads this area. lol

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Stop flaming and PWN my efforts with a third party project superior to

the

one

i've started. You say your a superrior modder and you are correct. So get modding.

Just so everyone know. I am neutral in this little thing :)

Common guys, lay them out and measure them and get it over with ;)

Hey, I'm neutral as well. Jas' negetivity only hurts him and I adimently think someone of his skill should start his own project -- especially if he has issues with ours. There is nothing to "lay out and measure" seeing as I am not being competetive. I fully acknowledge that he has superior modding skills to my own.

So, ya done? :-)

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Yes -- and that would be to post suggestions, bug reports, feature

requests,

etc... not for attempting to start a pissing contest with me <looks at

Jas

Yeup ...

Again ... this is not alt.bbs.synchronet ... :P

Doesn't mater. Jas will flame anyone, anywhere! <G>

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Re: Re: Am not!
By: Time Warrior to RuneMaster on Mon Feb 13 2006 04:35 am

Yes -- and that would be to post suggestions, bug reports, feature

requests,

etc... not for attempting to start a pissing contest with me <looks at

Jas

Yeup ...

Again ... this is not alt.bbs.synchronet ... :P

Doesn't mater. Jas will flame anyone, anywhere! <G>

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.....who gives a flying shit who the best modder is? I rather enjoy Jas's flames... Think some of them are funny.. even when he flames me. The only modding I can to would be in a boxing ring...heheh...

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RuneMaster wrote:

Stop flaming and PWN my efforts with a third party project superior to the

one

i've started. You say your a superrior modder and you are correct. So get modding.

Just so everyone know. I am neutral in this little thing :)

Common guys, lay them out and measure them and get it over with ;)

-RM.

Geez, I'll never post a link to my website again! Look what has happened! ;)

-Mindless Automaton
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Time Warrior wrote:

If you want to check out my butchery of your nice Synchronet html/js

setup:

http://eldritch.darktech.org/

very much under construction of course..

Comming along nicely :)

I hope theres going to be an "English Version" of this site. Coming along nicely is an understatement! Props to this guy! It's awesome!

Or not.. please note the response to Runemaster where I denounce my
skill and reveal that I bought the template and merely adapted it to
work with Synchronet. I realized people might get the wrong idea about
what I am capable of, when I am not at all, so I had to post the follow
up. :)

-Mindless Not That Awesome Automaton
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Mindless Automaton wrote:

RuneMaster wrote:

If you want to check out my butchery of your nice Synchronet

html/js setup:

http://eldritch.darktech.org/

very much under construction of course..

Comming along nicely :)

Of course I cheated and bought a layout. :o It wasn't as hard as I
though to get it working with the template system. Now all I have to do
is put some more time into it to finish it off and add whatever else I want..

-Mindless Automaton

Please note I posted this follow up saying "Of course I cheated and
bought a layout." after I posted my initial message as to not dupe
anyone into thinking I have a creative bone in my body and created the
website all by myself.

I apologize if anyone got the wrong impression and thought I was
anything other than a..

-Mindless Automaton
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I also hang out on #SyncDev on IRC as well as #Sunchronet

Hrm... I haven't finished making it go on Sun hardware yet...

Heh ... and I didn't even notice the typo till now :)

-RM.

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So, ya done? :-)

Am I ever? :)

-RM.

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Geez, I'll never post a link to my website again! Look what has happened! ;)

That'll teach ya!

<snicker>

-RM.

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Re: Re: Am not!
By: RuneMaster to Deuce on Mon Feb 13 2006 04:30 pm

I also hang out on #SyncDev on IRC as well as #Sunchronet

Hrm... I haven't finished making it go on Sun hardware yet...

Heh ... and I didn't even notice the typo till now :)

I noticed the typo, but didn't "get" Decue's comment... until now. :-)

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Re: Re: Am not!
By: Time Warrior to RuneMaster on Mon Feb 13 2006 04:32 am

It's amazing. I don't ask people to do this for me, it just kinda happens. W people such as Jas are, for lack of a better term "talking shit" in message areas that I do not read or am unaware of -- I'll get instant messages from friends saying "Hey Dave, check this out, it's pretty amusing" .. which is exactly what happened in this instance.

One of the two new recruits to the project (I really do need to update the entires on dev.synchsupport.net with that info lol) who I brought in, who is Sysop friend of mine local to me in the Chicagoland Area -- messaged me abou this thread having been amused by the fact that it is Jas who has "too much free time" in all actuality, to have nothing else better to do than yammer o and bitch about me. He figured I would find it just as amusing (and i most certianly DID :-) so he brought it to my attention.

I would never have known this thread existed had it not been for him. If he wishes to take credit, he can feel free. He obviously reads this area. lol

Sure, I'll paint a target on my face and stick it out of the foxhole..
The only reason I pointed it out in the first place was because of the
[I felt] unwarrented comment. I knew TW doesn't waste time in here so I thought it would be appropriate to bounce it his way to deal with as he saw fit. Regardless of personal feelings, if TW is contributing to the scene,
then what's the beef? I could care less if someone doesn't like the guy,
it certainly doesn't seem to bother him at all :-) but taking childish
cheap shots certainly isn't productive, and usually makes the one doing
the swinging look like an ass (which I also know he loves to watch).

--
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Sure, I'll paint a target on my face and stick it out of the foxhole..
The only reason I pointed it out in the first place was because of the
[I felt] unwarrented comment. I knew TW doesn't waste time in here so I thought it would be appropriate to bounce it his way to deal with as he saw fit. Regardless of personal feelings, if TW is contributing to the scene, then what's the beef? I could care less if someone doesn't like the guy,
it certainly doesn't seem to bother him at all :-) but taking childish
cheap shots certainly isn't productive, and usually makes the one doing
the swinging look like an ass (which I also know he loves to watch).

Exactly. TW is TW. He'll never be anyone else. There are times that he may be frustrating to deal with for some (even me) but he has had good suggestions.

Not only that, but he is taking the time to actually try and do something. His idea of a Third Party Web (etc) mods site is good. I'll give him credit for what he does that is positive and take it away when he annoys me too much ... as I would expect he would do in reverse. He is only human and each of us has different ways of dealing with others.

-RM.

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