• [wiki.synchro.net] page added: howto:freq

    From wkitty42@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Friday, March 19, 2021 09:28:18
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:freq by wkitty42:
    created first simplistic rough draft

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to wkitty42 on Friday, March 19, 2021 15:11:45
    Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page added: howto:freq
    By: wkitty42 to wiki.synchro.net on Fri Mar 19 2021 09:28 am

    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:freq by wkitty42:
    created first simplistic rough draft

    You mentioned 2 methods and I am not sure what the other method is but SBBS will send a file request to a node if you use the subject with "FR: FILENAME.ZIP"

    I just requested "FILES" from your node from this 1:153/757.2 point. I didn't get anything back but I wasn't really expecting anything anyway, but SBBS/BinkIt successfully sent the request to your node. :)

    1:153/757 supports file requests. FILES doesn't return anything but the magic names NODELIST, FIDONEWS or NASA will get you the latest file that has arrived in those areas.

    You or anyone can feel free to test against or request files from 1:153/757.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Al on Friday, March 19, 2021 21:23:00
    Al wrote to wkitty42 <=-

    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:freq by wkitty42:
    created first simplistic rough draft

    You mentioned 2 methods and I am not sure what the other method
    is but SBBS will send a file request to a node if you use the
    subject with "FR: FILENAME.ZIP"

    I just requested "FILES" from your node from this 1:153/757.2
    point. I didn't get anything back but I wasn't really expecting
    anything anyway, but SBBS/BinkIt successfully sent the request to
    your node. :)

    1:153/757 supports file requests. FILES doesn't return anything
    but the magic names NODELIST, FIDONEWS or NASA will get you the
    latest file that has arrived in those areas.

    You or anyone can feel free to test against or request files from 1:153/757.

    So, who do we address the netmail to? I get the part about the subject
    line, such as "FR: NASA", and I see your node number, but the netmail
    has to be in the form of "user name@1:153/757". What "user name" should
    be used?



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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Gamgee on Friday, March 19, 2021 20:33:21
    Re: Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page added: howto:freq
    By: Gamgee to Al on Fri Mar 19 2021 09:23 pm

    So, who do we address the netmail to? I get the part about the subject line, such as "FR: NASA", and I see your node number, but the netmail
    has to be in the form of "user name@1:153/757". What "user name" should be used?

    Alan Ianson@1:153/757, or freq@1:153/757. I don't think the To: name matters.

    SBBSecho won't create an outbound .pkt for file requests. It just sends the .req file and creates a poll for the node.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Al on Saturday, March 20, 2021 04:50:30
    Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page added: howto:freq
    By: Al to wkitty42 on Fri Mar 19 2021 15:11:45


    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:freq by wkitty42:
    created first simplistic rough draft

    You mentioned 2 methods and I am not sure what the other method
    is but SBBS will send a file request to a node if you use the
    subject with "FR: FILENAME.ZIP"

    true... i was, however, speaking of the technical behind the scenes methods that BSO uses... sbbs will use one of those two methods to convert the "FR: file.name" to a .REQ and send it to the remote system...

    the method i described and the other one are actually exactly the same except for the .REQ filename... the FLO file still needs to be touched so the mailer will see it and make the connection... the method i described adds the
    .REQ file to the FLO file whereas the other method is just updating the FLO file's timedate stamp... i'll be updating the wiki page with more information as i figure more out about how to easily describe the methods in a
    simple to understand way...

    FWIW: AFAIK, the FR: method is only one file per so if you want 10 files, that's going to be 10 netmails which will be converted into 10 .REQs and 10 connections... maybe the FR: method does work with multiple filenames where

    FR: file1 file2 file3

    is converted to one REQ for the three files... idk, really... it would be great if it does but there is also the subject line field length limitation to consider... the method i describe, while being external to the BBS,
    allows for many files to be listed in the .REQ and all handled in one connection...


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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Gamgee on Saturday, March 20, 2021 04:54:54
    Re: Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page added: howto:freq
    By: Gamgee to Al on Fri Mar 19 2021 21:23:00


    Gamgee> So, who do we address the netmail to? I get the part about
    Gamgee> the subject line, such as "FR: NASA", and I see your node
    Gamgee> number, but the netmail has to be in the form of "user
    Gamgee> name@1:153/757". What "user name" should be used?

    sysop@1:153/757 should work just fine because there should be no actual netmail message generated... .REQ files are not sent to any specific person... they are sent to the system... theoretically, you could send to any
    username at the address... even a non-existant username...


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Rampage on Saturday, March 20, 2021 03:26:28
    Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page added: howto:freq
    By: Rampage to Al on Sat Mar 20 2021 04:50 am

    true... i was, however, speaking of the technical behind the scenes methods that BSO uses... sbbs will use one of those two methods to convert the "FR: file.name" to a .REQ and send it to the remote system...

    Yes, it's all good information.

    FWIW: AFAIK, the FR: method is only one file per so if you want 10 files, that's going to be 10 netmails which will be converted into 10 .REQs and 10 connections... maybe the FR: method does work with multiple filenames where

    FR: file1 file2 file3

    Yes, I think this method only works with one file per message.

    There can be limits also. The default freqit.ini has a limit of 10 files per request and so does my mfreq.cfg. I just added a 0 to both those files.. just in case.. ;)

    is converted to one REQ for the three files... idk, really... it would be great if it does but there is also the subject line field length limitation to consider... the method i describe, while being external to the BBS, allows for many files to be listed in the .REQ and all handled in one connection...

    All the hexadecimal involved gets stuck in my head. ;)

    A request.js might be a handy tool. Ask for filenames to request and the node to request them from and let the .js do the hexadecimal and put the result in the outbound and touch fidoout.now.

    Just a thought.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Al on Saturday, March 20, 2021 08:59:00
    Al wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page added: howto:freq
    By: Gamgee to Al on Fri Mar 19 2021 09:23 pm

    So, who do we address the netmail to? I get the part about the subject line, such as "FR: NASA", and I see your node number, but the netmail
    has to be in the form of "user name@1:153/757". What "user name" should
    be used?

    Alan Ianson@1:153/757, or freq@1:153/757. I don't think the To:
    name matters.

    Okay, but that isn't obvious or intuitive to anybody not familiar with
    your system. The SBBS netmail function requires *something* to be on
    the left side of the "@" symbol, or it fails.

    Thanks, I'll give it a test a little later.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Rampage on Saturday, March 20, 2021 09:01:00
    Rampage wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page added: howto:freq
    By: Gamgee to Al on Fri Mar 19 2021 21:23:00

    Gamgee> So, who do we address the netmail to? I get the part
    about
    Gamgee> the subject line, such as "FR: NASA", and I see your
    node
    Gamgee> number, but the netmail has to be in the form of "user
    Gamgee> name@1:153/757". What "user name" should be used?

    sysop@1:153/757 should work just fine because there should be no
    actual netmail message generated... .REQ files are not sent to
    any specific person... they are sent to the system...
    theoretically, you could send to any username at the address...
    even a non-existant username...

    Okay, gotcha. It should probably be documented that way, because the
    system requires *something* to be the "name" that you're sending to.
    Just wondering if there is a "standard" name that would go in the addressing... like maybe "FREQ" would be a good one. Thanks.



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Rampage on Saturday, March 20, 2021 12:08:19
    Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page added: howto:freq
    By: Rampage to Al on Sat Mar 20 2021 04:50 am

    FWIW: AFAIK, the FR: method is only one file per so if you want 10 files, that's going to be 10 netmails which will be converted into 10 .REQs and 10 connections...

    True. It wouldn't be too hard to adjust SBBSecho to support multiple files per request, if someone really needs that.
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