• netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does

    From Duck@VERT/DUCKBBS to All on Monday, March 08, 2021 11:22:16
    I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've
    read everything. It's just not clicking for me. Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i
    need to do. Gmail comes in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

    Err:
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 -
    gsmtp' Expected: '250'
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
    "550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp"
    instead of the expected reply:
    "250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #97) created for Duck

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    Synchronet DUCKBBS
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Duck on Monday, March 08, 2021 13:53:52
    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

    I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking for me. Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do. Gmail comes in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

    Err:
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
    "550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp"
    instead of the expected reply:
    "250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #97) created for Duck

    Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?
    --
    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #23:
    DOVE = Domain/Vertrauen
    Norco, CA WX: 63.1F, 51.0% humidity, 7 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Duck@VERT/DUCKBBS to Digital Man on Monday, March 08, 2021 18:43:00
    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 13:53:52

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

    I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking for m
    Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do. Gmail come
    in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

    Err:
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
    "550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp"
    instead of the expected reply:
    "250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #97) created for Duck

    Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?
    --
    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #23:
    DOVE = Domain/Vertrauen
    Norco, CA WX: 63.1F, 51.0% humidity, 7 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    No i do not, is this really needed or cn i get around it?

    Duck

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    Synchronet DUCKBBS
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Duck on Monday, March 08, 2021 19:06:33
    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 06:43 pm

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 13:53:52

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

    I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking for m Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do. Gmail come in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

    Err:
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
    "550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp"
    instead of the expected reply:
    "250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #97) created for Duck

    Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?

    No i do not, is this really needed or cn i get around it?

    Not sure. I'm clear what Google is complaining about, but it does appear to be TLS-related.

    You can try this, even just as an experiment: https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:relay_smtp
    --
    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #25:
    Karl: they seen fit to put me in here and here I've been a great long while. Norco, CA WX: 54.3F, 68.0% humidity, 5 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Duck@VERT/DUCKBBS to Digital Man on Monday, March 08, 2021 20:19:25
    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 18:43:00

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 13:53:52

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

    I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking fo
    Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do. Gmail c
    in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

    Err:
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
    "550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp"
    instead of the expected reply:
    "250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #97)
    created for Duck

    Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?
    --
    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #23:
    DOVE = Domain/Vertrauen
    Norco, CA WX: 63.1F, 51.0% humidity, 7 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    No i do not, is this really needed or cn i get around it?

    Duck
    This gave me an error; 3/8 08:18:40p SYNCRYPT !JavaScript : uncaught exception:
    newOrder responded with 400 not 201
    Any idea?

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    Synchronet DUCKBBS
  • From Duck@VERT/DUCKBBS to Digital Man on Monday, March 08, 2021 20:55:47
    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 18:43:00

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 13:53:52

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

    I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking fo
    Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do. Gmail c
    in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

    Err:
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
    "550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp"
    instead of the expected reply:
    "250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #97)
    created for Duck

    Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?
    --
    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #23:
    DOVE = Domain/Vertrauen
    Norco, CA WX: 63.1F, 51.0% humidity, 7 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    No i do not, is this really needed or cn i get around it?

    Duck

    I have an SSL Certificate imported in now, but that still didn't work.
    Do i have to use let's Encrypt?
    Or do the SSL just doesn't matter?
    Duck

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    Synchronet DUCKBBS
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Duck on Monday, March 08, 2021 21:07:30
    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 08:19 pm

    This gave me an error; 3/8 08:18:40p SYNCRYPT !JavaScript : uncaught exception: newOrder responded with 400 not 201
    Any idea?

    Apparently you're trying to use letsyncrypt and did something wrong. Deuce is the guy who wrote that and he would need more context/info to help (e.g. in #synchronet at irc.synchro.ent).
    --
    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #43:
    I feel my role in the band is ... kind of like lukewarm water.
    Norco, CA WX: 51.8F, 72.0% humidity, 7 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Duck on Monday, March 08, 2021 21:09:04
    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 08:55 pm

    I have an SSL Certificate imported in now, but that still didn't work.
    Do i have to use let's Encrypt?
    Or do the SSL just doesn't matter?

    Apparently the SSL/TLS certificate is not used for outbound SMTP connections. So it's something else that's wrong.
    --
    digital man

    Rush quote #16:
    All the world's a stage and we are merely players, performers and portrayers Norco, CA WX: 51.8F, 72.0% humidity, 7 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Duck@VERT/DUCKBBS to Digital Man on Monday, March 08, 2021 22:09:11
    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 19:06:33

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 06:43 pm

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 13:53:52

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

    I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail
    recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking
    for m Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do
    Gmail come in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

    Err:
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1 for more
    information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
    "550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp" instead of the expected reply:
    "250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #9
    created for Duck

    Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?

    No i do not, is this really needed or cn i get around it?

    Not sure. I'm clear what Google is complaining about, but it does appear to be
    TLS-related.

    You can try this, even just as an experiment: https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:relay_smtp
    --
    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #25:
    Karl: they seen fit to put me in here and here I've been a great long while. Norco, CA WX: 54.3F, 68.0% humidity, 5 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    no joy, same error
    3/8 10:03:32p 0000 SEND Message #110 (18 of 18) from Duck #1 duck@ducksnest.guru to someone [someone@gmail.com]
    3/8 10:03:32p 2948 SEND connecting to port 587 on MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET [71.95.196.36]
    3/8 10:03:33p 2948 SEND TLS Session started successfully
    3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '535 Authentication failure' Expected: '235'
    3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET replied
    with:
    "535 Authentication failure"
    instead of the expected reply:
    "235 ...") for message #110 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
    3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
    3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #111) created
    for Duck

    duck

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    Synchronet DUCKBBS
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Duck on Monday, March 08, 2021 21:15:48
    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 10:09 pm

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 19:06:33

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 06:43 pm

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 13:53:52

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 11:22 am

    I'm getting this error and i can't figure out why when i send to gmail recipents it wont go out, i've read everything. It's just not clicking for m Can someone help and direct me to what specifically i need to do Gmail come in , just wont go out. Yahoo seems to work fine.

    Err:
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.1
    for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
    "550 5.7.1 for more information. n22si765089plp.243 - gsmtp" instead of the expected reply:
    "250 ...") for message #96 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
    3/8 10:42:27a 0884 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #9 created for Duck

    Do you have a signed TLS certificate (e.g. from Let's Encrypt)?

    No i do not, is this really needed or cn i get around it?

    Not sure. I'm clear what Google is complaining about, but it does appear to be TLS-related.

    You can try this, even just as an experiment: https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:relay_smtp

    no joy, same error
    3/8 10:03:32p 0000 SEND Message #110 (18 of 18) from Duck #1 duck@ducksnest.guru to someone [someone@gmail.com]
    3/8 10:03:32p 2948 SEND connecting to port 587 on MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET [71.95.196.36]
    3/8 10:03:33p 2948 SEND TLS Session started successfully
    3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '535 Authentication failure' Expected: '235'
    3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET replied with:
    "535 Authentication failure"
    instead of the expected reply:
    "235 ...") for message #110 from Duck to someone@gmail.com
    3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Bouncing message back to Duck
    3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Delivery failure notification (message #111) created for Duck

    Well that's a different error. "Authentication failure" - looks like a problem with your name or password.
    --
    digital man

    Rush quote #55:
    He'd like a lover's wings to fly on, to a tropic isle of Avalon .. Digital Man Norco, CA WX: 51.7F, 71.0% humidity, 6 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Duck on Monday, March 08, 2021 21:19:17
    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 09:15 pm

    no joy, same error

    Well that's a different error. "Authentication failure" - looks like a problem with your name or password.

    Any logs on this side shows:
    mail 0134 SMTPS [70.167.209.246] !FAILED Password attempt for user DUCK:

    Your BBS's QWK-ID is "DUCKBBS". So, you should be using "DUCKBBS" as the mail relay user name as well.
    --
    digital man

    Rush quote #34:
    We go out in the world take our chances fate's just the weight of circumstances Norco, CA WX: 51.7F, 71.0% humidity, 6 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Duck@VERT/DUCKBBS to Digital Man on Monday, March 08, 2021 23:34:55
    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 21:19:17

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Digital Man to Duck on Mon Mar 08 2021 09:15 pm

    no joy, same error

    Well that's a different error. "Authentication failure" - looks like a probl
    with your name or password.

    Any logs on this side shows:
    mail 0134 SMTPS [70.167.209.246] !FAILED Password attempt for user DUCK:

    Your BBS's QWK-ID is "DUCKBBS". So, you should be using "DUCKBBS" as the mail
    relay user name as well.
    --
    digital man

    Rush quote #34:
    We go out in the world take our chances fate's just the weight of circumstances
    Norco, CA WX: 51.7F, 71.0% humidity, 6 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    Ok the relay works after fixing password n login

    duck

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    Synchronet DUCKBBS
  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Duck on Tuesday, March 09, 2021 04:36:40
    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 22:09:11

    no joy, same error

    no, that's an authentication failed... not the same as your previous one...

    3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET replied
    with: "535 Authentication failure" instead of the expected reply:

    did you add your system's credentials to sbbs.ini RelayUsername and RelayPassword?? they would be the same as your QWK stuff since you're now trying to relay through vert...


    )\/(ark

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    Synchronet The SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR
  • From Duck@VERT/DUCKBBS to Rampage on Tuesday, March 09, 2021 11:37:59
    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Rampage to Duck on Tue Mar 09 2021 04:36:40

    Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Duck to Digital Man on Mon Mar 08 2021 22:09:11

    no joy, same error

    no, that's an authentication failed... not the same as your previous one...

    3/8 10:03:38p 2948 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET replied
    with: "535 Authentication failure" instead of the expected reply:

    did you add your system's credentials to sbbs.ini RelayUsername and RelayPassword?? they would be the sa
    as your QWK stuff since you're now trying to relay through vert...


    )\/(ark

    Rampage,
    Thanks for the help. I know i don't explain things the best. The relay is now working and the creds
    got inputted automatically to sbbs.ini. I still want to work out the previous problem of why i have an
    issue with gmail. It seems it trys sending thrt port 25 , is there a way to make it send thru port 587
    without a relay. Like i said yahoo and others work. There shouldn't be any issues since all my ports are
    open and i'm on a business ISP line.

    Duck

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    Synchronet DUCKBBS
  • From Mortifis@VERT/MUSEUM to Duck on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 08:18:07
    Thanks for the help. I know i don't explain things the best. The relay is now working and the creds
    got inputted automatically to sbbs.ini. I still want to work out the previous problem of why i have an
    issue with gmail. It seems it trys sending thrt port 25 , is there a way to make it send thru port 587
    without a relay.

    Duck

    You may have seen this on the synchronet wiki:

    Add RELAY_TX and RELAY_AUTH_PLAIN to the Options key value in the [mail] section of your ctrl/sbbs.ini file. Example: Options = ALLOW_POP3 | RELAY_TX | RELAY_AUTH_PLAIN

    Edit the following keys in the [mail] section of your ctrl/sbbs.ini file:

    RelayServer=mail.synchro.net
    RelayPort=587 <-----------------------------< THIS <---
    RelayUsername=your BBS's QWK-ID
    RelayPassword=your QWKnet account password

    ~mortifis

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    Synchronet AlleyCat! BBS Game Server rlogin://alleycatbbs.com:5513
  • From Duck@VERT/DUCKBBS to Mortifis on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 19:06:50
    Re: Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Mortifis to Duck on Wed Mar 10 2021 08:18:07

    Thanks for the help. I know i don't explain things the best. The relay is now working and the
    creds
    got inputted automatically to sbbs.ini. I still want to work out the previous problem of why i have
    issue with gmail. It seems it trys sending thrt port 25 , is there a way to make it send thru port 58
    without a relay.

    Duck

    You may have seen this on the synchronet wiki:

    Add RELAY_TX and RELAY_AUTH_PLAIN to the Options key value in the [mail] section of your ctrl/sbbs.
    file. Example: Options = ALLOW_POP3 | RELAY_TX | RELAY_AUTH_PLAIN

    Edit the following keys in the [mail] section of your ctrl/sbbs.ini file:

    RelayServer=mail.synchro.net
    RelayPort=587 <-----------------------------< THIS <---
    RelayUsername=your BBS's QWK-ID
    RelayPassword=your QWKnet account password

    ~mortifis

    These are all set. Like i said the relay works fine. but it's not really the goal that i was going for. I
    want to work out the issue of why i can normally send out mail to other clients, such as yahoo and
    others but not gmail clients. If i use the relay yes, it does. But i'd rather not use the relay.
    SMTPPort = 25
    SubmissionPort = 587
    TLSSubmissionPort = 465
    POP3Interface =
    POP3Port = 110
    TLSPOP3Port = 995
    DefaultCharset = IBM437
    DefaultUser = duck
    DNSBlacklistHeader = X-DNSBL
    DNSBlacklistSubject = SPAM
    RelayServer = MAIL.SYNCHRO.NET
    RelayPort = 587
    ; The following 2 keys are used if the RelayServer requires authentication (SMTP AUTH)
    ; Must also set one of the RELAY_AUTH options and when i use the relay the below is set

    RelayUsername = my relay username is here
    RelayPassword = my relay password is here
    DNSServer = I have this set to my isp's
    Thanks
    Duck

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    Synchronet DUCKBBS
  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Duck on Thursday, March 11, 2021 17:35:45
    On 3/10/2021 7:06 PM, Duck wrote:
    These are all set. Like i said the relay works fine. but it's not
    really the goal that i was going for. I want to work out the issue
    of why i can normally send out mail to other clients, such as yahoo
    and others but not gmail clients. If i use the relay yes, it does.
    But i'd rather not use the relay.

    You will want to configure at least your SPF record. If you're hosting
    from your home connection, your options are really limited. Usually you
    would also want your reverse dns for your IP to match your hostname for
    your MX record for your mail server. You will also want a clean and
    static IP address assigned. Since Synchronet doesn't support DKIM, you
    can use a self-hosted agent for outbound and optionally inbound checks
    if you like. Even then you will likely have issues.

    You should also test outlook.com/hotmail in addition to gmail, and
    yahoo. In the end, using a relay is generally the least painful route
    to go for better delivery.
    --
    Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com

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    Synchronet Roughneck BBS - roughneckbbs.com
  • From Marisag@VERT/AMIGAC to Tracker1 on Thursday, March 11, 2021 22:30:38
    Re: Re: netmail to gmail recipients not going out /yahoo does
    By: Tracker1 to Duck on Thu Mar 11 2021 17:35:45

    I have issues with gmail on almost all my sites, even those using the latest version of postfix. Works fine to yahoo/outlook/etc just gmail blocking them. Would love to get that resolved...

    Marisa
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tracker1 on Friday, March 12, 2021 07:08:00
    Tracker1 wrote to Duck <=-

    You will want to configure at least your SPF record. If you're hosting from your home connection, your options are really limited. Usually
    you would also want your reverse dns for your IP to match your hostname for your MX record for your mail server.


    There's a great site I use called MXtoolbox.com that helps diagnose mail server problems.

    I just resurrected a VPS I've been holding onto for a couple of years, and loaded postfix from package. I added SPF and DKIM records, and the DKIM
    record seemed to do the trick to allow mail to pass to google.

    I was able to find instructions on both online with google searches.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Marisag on Monday, March 15, 2021 06:51:13
    On 3/11/2021 3:30 PM, Marisag wrote:

    I have issues with gmail on almost all my sites, even those using the
    latest version of postfix. Works fine to yahoo/outlook/etc just gmail blocking them. Would love to get that resolved...

    I just send my BBS outbound mail via SendGrid.com, the BBS fits in the
    free tier. DKIM and SPF records in DNS are in place.

    Right now, I have a mail server setup, but having issues with several
    IPs I've tried blocked by hotmail's services... Will probably switch my sendgrid account to paid, or may setup to relay through AWS SES service.
    --
    Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Tracker1 on Monday, March 15, 2021 13:11:00
    Tracker1 wrote to Marisag <=-

    @VIA: VERT/TRN
    @MSGID: <604F6652.38092.dove-syncdisc@roughneckbbs.com>
    @REPLY: <604B0A8E.45513.dove-syncdisc@amigacity.xyz>
    @TZ: fe5c
    On 3/11/2021 3:30 PM, Marisag wrote:

    I just send my BBS outbound mail via SendGrid.com, the BBS fits in
    the free tier. DKIM and SPF records in DNS are in place.

    Right now, I have a mail server setup, but having issues with
    several IPs I've tried blocked by hotmail's services... Will
    probably switch my sendgrid account to paid, or may setup to relay
    through AWS SES service.

    Unless you are really dumping messages out via SMTP, keeping with
    SendGrid makes sense (their free tier is more than sufficient). AWS SES
    is a good service but invites too many headaches into something
    relatively simple like SendGrid. SES requires you to have an actual
    MAIL FROM domain, which isn't that complicated, but the documentation
    should be reviewed: https://amzn.to/2OrxpHl


    Brian Klauss <-> Dream Master
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, March 15, 2021 21:03:53
    On 3/12/2021 8:08 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:
    You will want to configure at least your SPF record. If you're hosting
    from your home connection, your options are really limited. Usually
    you would also want your reverse dns for your IP to match your hostname
    for your MX record for your mail server.

    There's a great site I use called MXtoolbox.com that helps diagnose mail server problems.

    Well, their sales tactics are kind of strong armed and their paid
    accounts are way more than I'm willing to spend on this, roughly 10-20x
    what a relay service would cost.

    Of the 4 rbls that were flagged, two were false positives that weren't
    listed on the actual rbl sites, one I was able to request automated
    deletion and for the last, I went ahead and paid for 2 years of
    whitelisting (www.whitelisted.org), mostly flagged because of the host provider's address block (DigitalOcean).

    I just resurrected a VPS I've been holding onto for a couple of years, and loaded postfix from package. I added SPF and DKIM records, and the DKIM record seemed to do the trick to allow mail to pass to google.

    I was able to find instructions on both online with google searches.

    Yeah, I have DKIM and SPF setup correctly... google delivers fine,
    didn't test yahoo mail, office365 is delivering without issue... but hotmail/outlook.com has a separate infrastructure that's been
    problematic, I only paid for the 2-year whitelist as if that gets me to
    my outlook.com email, I'll just leave it as-is and won't need a relay
    service.

    For reference, I'm using https://mailu.io/1.7/ via Docker using a
    postgresql database. Was actually super easy to setup/configure,
    biggest issue seems to be the DigitalOcean list...

    It does seem that Azure might be your best bet for hosting an MTA
    server, as their address blocks are pretty much clean. But the host
    pricing it about 30-40% higher than DigitalOcean.

    B2S (General Compute, 2cpu, 4gb) is $21/month on a reserved instance for
    a year, and $32 on a monthly. Buying 3-year reserved instance would be
    about $500 for the three years, and from experience about $5-10/month
    for bandwidth and storage by the end of the term.

    I might have been able to stick with sqlite and a 2gb service (the
    anti-spam configuration recommends at least 1gb just for the anti-spam,
    so 2gb is probably the lowest memory), adding postgresql in the mix
    recommends 2gb by itself... so just went that direction.
    --
    Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Tracker1 on Monday, March 15, 2021 21:45:07
    If a message area has old messages removed, does this change the message numbers? Does this affect the message numbers in NNTP?
    --
    Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Tracker1 on Monday, March 15, 2021 22:54:32
    Re: Message area numbering
    By: Tracker1 to Tracker1 on Mon Mar 15 2021 09:45 pm

    If a message area has old messages removed, does this change the message numbers? Does this affect the message numbers in NNTP?

    No.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Digital Man on Wednesday, March 17, 2021 03:36:07
    On 3/15/2021 10:54 PM, Digital Man wrote:
    If a message area has old messages removed, does this change the message
    numbers? Does this affect the message numbers in NNTP?

    No.

    Thank you.
    --
    Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tracker1 on Wednesday, March 17, 2021 06:11:00
    Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    It does seem that Azure might be your best bet for hosting an MTA
    server, as their address blocks are pretty much clean. But the host pricing it about 30-40% higher than DigitalOcean.

    Heck, I'm on a ChicagoVPS box, one's $55/year, the other $12/year, and they showed clean on mxtoolbox. Color me surprised.




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