• Installing sbbs error:

    From Paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to All on Wednesday, May 06, 2020 20:06:25
    Ok, so I am trying to install an sbbs instance on a raspberry pi 4, running Ubuntu Server 20.04.

    After the make install SYMLINK=1 USE_DOSEMU=1 command, I get:

    [a bunch of all text, all the way to the script trying to recognize my OS] UNAME_MACHINE = aarch64
    UNAME_RELEASE = 5.4.0-1008-raspi
    UNAME_SYSTEM = Linux
    UNAME_VERSION = #8-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 8 11:13:06 UTC 2020
    configure: error: can not guess host type; you must specify one
    make[2]: *** [GNUmakefile:60: ../build/../../src/../3rdp/gcc.linux.aarch64.realease/mozjs/lib/libmozjs185-1.0 .a] Error 1
    make[2] : Leaving directory '/sbbs/3rdp/build'
    make[1]: *** [/sbbs/src/sbbs3/../build/Common.gmake:515: js] Error 2
    make[1]: Leaving directory '/sbbs/src/sbbs3'
    make: *** [GNUmakefile:160 sbbs30 Error 2
    sbbs@ubuntu:/sbbs$

    I wanna switch my sbbs to this server, as the laptop I am using it less than rock solid... I thought ubuntu server was a great choice; and since 20.04 was installable on my Raspberry Pi I gave it a go. Any reason its not installing easily? THANKS - and I just want on PAUSE mode. Turned off, no rush... appreciate any help

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Paulie420 on Thursday, May 07, 2020 02:23:16
    Re: Installing sbbs error:
    By: Paulie420 to All on Wed May 06 2020 08:06 pm

    Ok, so I am trying to install an sbbs instance on a raspberry pi 4, running Ubuntu Server 20.04.

    After the make install SYMLINK=1 USE_DOSEMU=1 command, I get:

    [a bunch of all text, all the way to the script trying to recognize my OS] UNAME_MACHINE = aarch64
    UNAME_RELEASE = 5.4.0-1008-raspi
    UNAME_SYSTEM = Linux
    UNAME_VERSION = #8-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 8 11:13:06 UTC 2020
    configure: error: can not guess host type; you must specify one

    Looks like the build for mozjs is failing. Maybe try using the system's libmozjs as instructed here:
    http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix#getting_building

    I wanna switch my sbbs to this server, as the laptop I am using it less than rock solid... I thought ubuntu server was a great choice; and since 20.04 was installable on my Raspberry Pi I gave it a go. Any reason its not installing easily? THANKS - and I just want on PAUSE mode. Turned off, no rush...

    I don't understand that last bit.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Paulie420 on Thursday, May 07, 2020 17:34:00
    On 05-06-20 20:06, Paulie420 wrote to All <=-

    Ok, so I am trying to install an sbbs instance on a raspberry pi 4, running Ubuntu Server 20.04.

    After the make install SYMLINK=1 USE_DOSEMU=1 command, I get:

    You can't run DOSEMU on a Pi, it needs a x86 (or x86_64).


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  • From Paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to Digital Man on Thursday, May 07, 2020 07:40:21
    Re: Installing sbbs error:
    By: Digital Man to Paulie420 on Thu May 07 2020 02:23 am

    Looks like the build for mozjs is failing. Maybe try using the system's libmozjs as instructed here: http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix#getting_building

    Thanks, I'll go check the wiki tonight and see what I didn't see the first time. SMH & thanks...

    reason its not installing easily? THANKS - and I just want on PAUSE
    mode. Turned off, no rush...

    I don't understand that last bit.

    I just meant no rush, my BBS is already running on another computer - but thanks DM...

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  • From Paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to Tony Langdon on Thursday, May 07, 2020 07:42:01
    Re: Re: Installing sbbs error:
    By: Tony Langdon to Paulie420 on Thu May 07 2020 05:34 pm

    You can't run DOSEMU on a Pi, it needs a x86 (or x86_64).
    Thank you; I had thought that since I was running a standard flavor of linux (ubuntu server)... but understand what you're stating. I still think its better for me, as DoorParty/BBSLink will be fine; but I'll be sure to drop that off when I compile next.

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  • From Al@VERT to Paulie420 on Thursday, May 07, 2020 12:37:18
    Hello Paulie420,

    You can't run DOSEMU on a Pi, it needs a x86 (or x86_64).

    Thank you; I had thought that since I was running a standard flavor of linux (ubuntu server)... but understand what you're stating. I still
    think its better for me, as DoorParty/BBSLink will be fine; but I'll
    be sure to drop that off when I compile next.

    QEMU is something like dosemu, but different. It is possible to run QEMU on a Pi but it's not as well known as dosemu so the setup isn't widely known.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Paulie420 on Friday, May 08, 2020 12:46:00
    On 05-07-20 07:42, Paulie420 wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Re: Re: Installing sbbs error:
    By: Tony Langdon to Paulie420 on Thu May 07 2020 05:34 pm

    You can't run DOSEMU on a Pi, it needs a x86 (or x86_64).
    Thank you; I had thought that since I was running a standard flavor of linux (ubuntu server)... but understand what you're stating. I still
    think its better for me, as DoorParty/BBSLink will be fine; but I'll be sure to drop that off when I compile next.

    It's about the CPU. DOSemu doesn't emulate the CPU, so it needs an x86 family processor to run on. The Pi uses an ARM, which is a totally different architecture and incompatible with DOSemu.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Al on Friday, May 08, 2020 13:51:00
    On 05-07-20 12:37, Al wrote to Paulie420 <=-

    QEMU is something like dosemu, but different. It is possible to run
    QEMU on a Pi but it's not as well known as dosemu so the setup isn't widely known.

    Yeah, Qemu is one of the options for a Pi, since it does emulate the CPU.


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  • From Paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to Al on Thursday, May 07, 2020 17:37:40
    Re: Installing sbbs error:
    By: Al to Paulie420 on Thu May 07 2020 12:37 pm

    Hello Paulie420,

    You can't run DOSEMU on a Pi, it needs a x86 (or x86_64).

    Thank you; I had thought that since I was running a standard flavor
    of linux (ubuntu server)... but understand what you're stating. I
    still think its better for me, as DoorParty/BBSLink will be fine;
    but I'll be sure to drop that off when I compile next.

    QEMU is something like dosemu, but different. It is possible to run QEMU on a Pi but it's not as well known as dosemu so the setup isn't widely known.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    Again, thankyou... I'll keep this archived here and remember it.. because, lol, I'm already overwhelmed with ToDos... I am GOING TO conquer this BBS software, brother. Its both daunting, and fun, to really learn my linux skills level... I *thought* I was intermediate... and I am still beginner... cmon tho, theres gotta be like 5 sublevels of beginner. And I'm a solid 3. :P

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Tony Langdon on Friday, May 08, 2020 00:29:25
    Re: Re: Installing sbbs error:
    By: Tony Langdon to Al on Fri May 08 2020 01:51 pm

    QEMU is something like dosemu, but different. It is possible to run
    QEMU on a Pi but it's not as well known as dosemu so the setup isn't widely known.

    Yeah, Qemu is one of the options for a Pi, since it does emulate the CPU.

    QEMU could be a solution on other architectures too..

    I have read some folks can't run TW2002 under dosemu. I wonder if QEMU would work better?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Al on Friday, May 08, 2020 19:43:00
    On 05-08-20 00:29, Al wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Yeah, Qemu is one of the options for a Pi, since it does emulate the CPU.

    QEMU could be a solution on other architectures too..

    True, Qemu should work just as well there.

    I have read some folks can't run TW2002 under dosemu. I wonder if QEMU would work better?

    Hmm, might be worth a try.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Al on Friday, May 08, 2020 12:23:16
    On 5/7/2020 12:37 PM, Al wrote:

    QEMU is something like dosemu, but different. It is possible to run
    QEMU on a Pi but it's not as well known as dosemu so the setup isn't
    widely known.

    One thing to mention, is if you're using QEMU to limit your doors to
    only one node at a time.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Tracker1 on Saturday, May 09, 2020 11:25:00
    On 05-08-20 12:23, Tracker1 wrote to Al <=-

    On 5/7/2020 12:37 PM, Al wrote:

    QEMU is something like dosemu, but different. It is possible to run
    QEMU on a Pi but it's not as well known as dosemu so the setup isn't
    widely known.

    One thing to mention, is if you're using QEMU to limit your doors to
    only one node at a time.

    I know DOSBox has that limitation, but Qemu too?


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Tony Langdon on Thursday, May 14, 2020 18:21:13
    On 5/8/2020 6:25 PM, Tony Langdon wrote:
    One thing to mention, is if you're using QEMU to limit your doors to
    only one node at a time.

    I know DOSBox has that limitation, but Qemu too?

    Yes...

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Tracker1 on Friday, May 15, 2020 12:20:00
    On 05-14-20 18:21, Tracker1 wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    On 5/8/2020 6:25 PM, Tony Langdon wrote:
    One thing to mention, is if you're using QEMU to limit your doors to
    only one node at a time.

    I know DOSBox has that limitation, but Qemu too?

    Yes...

    Bummer. :(


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tony Langdon on Tuesday, May 19, 2020 18:56:07
    Re: Re: Installing sbbs error:
    By: Tony Langdon to Tracker1 on Fri May 15 2020 12:20 pm

    On 05-14-20 18:21, Tracker1 wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    On 5/8/2020 6:25 PM, Tony Langdon wrote:
    One thing to mention, is if you're using QEMU to limit your doors to
    only one node at a time.

    I know DOSBox has that limitation, but Qemu too?

    Yes...

    Bummer. :(


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to MRO on Wednesday, May 20, 2020 16:29:00
    On 05-19-20 18:56, MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I know DOSBox has that limitation, but Qemu too?

    Yes...

    Bummer. :(


    it's rare that you will get 2 people on at the same time and even more rare that they want to play the same doorgame.

    You're probably right.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Tony Langdon on Thursday, May 28, 2020 15:45:39
    On 5/14/2020 7:20 PM, Tony Langdon wrote:
    One thing to mention, is if you're using QEMU to limit your doors to
    only one node at a time.

    I know DOSBox has that limitation, but Qemu too?
    Yes...

    Bummer. :(

    With QEMU, you *MIGHT* be able to get the NT4 client drivers for SMB to
    work with relaxed server config... that may work with share.exe tsr,
    then you'd need to do a drive mount to an SMB windows file share.

    Again, *might*.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Tracker1 on Friday, May 29, 2020 18:58:00
    On 05-28-20 15:45, Tracker1 wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    With QEMU, you *MIGHT* be able to get the NT4 client drivers for SMB to work with relaxed server config... that may work with share.exe tsr,
    then you'd need to do a drive mount to an SMB windows file share.

    Yeah, though dialling back the security on modern versions of Windows can be a challenge! :) Well, I'd also have to install NetBEUI or IPX/SPX on the "server" machine, because TCP/IP with Windows networking chews up a LOT of conventional memory.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Tony Langdon on Sunday, June 14, 2020 19:32:11
    On 5/29/2020 1:58 AM, Tony Langdon wrote:
    With QEMU, you *MIGHT* be able to get the NT4 client drivers for SMB to
    work with relaxed server config... that may work with share.exe tsr,
    then you'd need to do a drive mount to an SMB windows file share.

    Yeah, though dialling back the security on modern versions of Windows can be a
    challenge! :) Well, I'd also have to install NetBEUI or IPX/SPX on the "server" machine, because TCP/IP with Windows networking chews up a LOT of conventional memory.

    I spent about 20minutes just trying to find a download location that
    worked when I posted... So that might be enough of a hurdle by itself.

    I thought I had downloaded the drivers with my DOS image files onto my
    NAS, but may have tossed it a few years back or something. Really old
    bits like NT4, etc don't seem to be on MSDN either now.

    For the server, not sure if NetBEUI is a samba option, or if you'd be
    better off with WFW in a VM. For that matter, I wonder if WFW VM in
    QEMU on Pi would work at all reasonably. Considering how much of this
    stuff originally ran on low-end 386/486 systems with megs (not gigs) of
    ram in the first place.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Tracker1 on Tuesday, June 16, 2020 20:03:00
    On 06-14-20 19:32, Tracker1 wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I spent about 20minutes just trying to find a download location that worked when I posted... So that might be enough of a hurdle by itself.

    Hmm, there was once a time when I had everything needed.

    I thought I had downloaded the drivers with my DOS image files onto my NAS, but may have tossed it a few years back or something. Really old bits like NT4, etc don't seem to be on MSDN either now.

    Bummer. MSDN used to be the goto for the old stuff. :(

    For the server, not sure if NetBEUI is a samba option, or if you'd be better off with WFW in a VM. For that matter, I wonder if WFW VM in
    QEMU on Pi would work at all reasonably. Considering how much of this stuff originally ran on low-end 386/486 systems with megs (not gigs) of ram in the first place.

    No, Samba only speaks IP. WFWG might be the go, but that will only do IP when Windows is loaded.


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