Hi,

Is it possible when using (smtp) email to include a CC, or more than 1 reciepient on the to line?
...deon


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Re: Emails
By: alterego to Digital Man on Fri Apr 17 2020 01:51 pm

Hi,

Is it possible when using (smtp) email to include a CC, or more than 1 reciepient on the to line?

Yes. When mail is received by the mail server via SMTP, multiple recipients are supported. Are do you mean when sending mail from the terminal server (BBS)? It's technically supported, but I don't think I have a UI mechanism for BBS users to do that.

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Re: Emails
By: Digital Man to alterego on Thu Apr 16 2020 09:48 pm

recipients are supported. Are do you mean when sending mail from the terminal server (BBS)? It's technically supported, but I don't think I have a UI mechanism for BBS users to do that.

Yes that latter. (And via the BBS).

I see the CC on incoming mail, but replying I want to CC all basically... ...deon


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Re: Emails
By: alterego to Digital Man on Fri Apr 17 2020 03:50 pm

Re: Emails
By: Digital Man to alterego on Thu Apr 16 2020 09:48 pm

recipients are supported. Are do you mean when sending mail from the terminal server (BBS)? It's technically supported, but I don't think I have a UI mechanism for BBS users to do that.

Yes that latter. (And via the BBS).

I see the CC on incoming mail, but replying I want to CC all basically...

Ah, I see. Shouldn't be too hard. I'll give it some thought.

digital man

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Re: Emails
By: Digital Man to alterego on Fri Apr 17 2020 02:05 am

Ah, I see. Shouldn't be too hard. I'll give it some thought.

Awesome, thank you...
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Re: Emails
By: Digital Man to alterego on Thu Apr 16 2020 09:48 pm

Question

Maybe this error would be easy to reply to:

The message has been saved.

Saved 486 characters (41 lines).

!ERROR writing /home/bbs/sbbs/data/mail

The sysop has been notified.
[Hit a key] +

When I try to send a netmail.

Thank you...


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Re: Fido
By: Havok to Digital Man on Fri Apr 17 2020 08:49 am

Re: Emails
By: Digital Man to alterego on Thu Apr 16 2020 09:48 pm

Question

Maybe this error would be easy to reply to:

The message has been saved.

Saved 486 characters (41 lines).

!ERROR writing /home/bbs/sbbs/data/mail

The sysop has been notified.
[Hit a key] +

When I try to send a netmail.

The full error message can be found in your data/error.log

I'm guessing this is a permissions/ownership issue however. Double-check the ownership and persmissions of the sbbs/data directory and the sbbs/data/mail.* files, if they already exist.

digital man

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Re: Fido
By: Havok to Digital Man on Fri Apr 17 2020 08:49 am

Question
Maybe this error would be easy to reply to:

The message has been saved.
Saved 486 characters (41 lines).
!ERROR writing /home/bbs/sbbs/data/mail

Would seem the bbs doesn't have permission to write to that directory. The directory should be owned by the user:group that sbbs is running as.

-altere

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Re: Fido
By: Altere to Havok on Fri Apr 17 2020 12:55 pm

Would seem the bbs doesn't have permission to write to that directory. The directory should be owned by the user:group that sbbs is running as.

Hello there...

I have run chown -R bbs:bbs sbbs
Still have the error.

But thank you for the reply!

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Re: Fido
By: Havok to Altere on Fri Apr 17 2020 05:51 pm

Re: Fido
By: Altere to Havok on Fri Apr 17 2020 12:55 pm

Would seem the bbs doesn't have permission to write to that directory. The directory should be owned by the user:group that sbbs is running as.

Hello there...

I have run chown -R bbs:bbs sbbs
Still have the error.

But thank you for the reply!

What user is 'sbbs' running as? What user owns the sbbs/data directory? What user owns the files sbbs/data/mail.*?

digital man

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Digital wrote:

Re: Emails
By: alterego to Digital Man on Fri Apr 17 2020 03:50 pm

Re: Emails
By: Digital Man to alterego on Thu Apr 16 2020 09:48 pm

recipients are supported. Are do you mean when sending mail from the
terminal server (BBS)? It's technically supported, but I don't think I
have a UI mechanism for BBS users to do that.

Yes that latter. (And via the BBS).

I see the CC on incoming mail, but replying I want to CC all basically...

Ah, I see. Shouldn't be too hard. I'll give it some thought.

I've seen this implemented by other boards where it asks if you want to
include a CC. If you do yes then you can enter each address on a new line.
You can then just build an array of CC addresses to cycle through.

You could go a step further an request if users wants to CC or BC or just
hit enter to continue.

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Re: Re: Emails
By: Nelgin to Digital Man on Fri Apr 17 2020 08:36 pm

Digital wrote:

Re: Emails
By: alterego to Digital Man on Fri Apr 17 2020 03:50 pm

Re: Emails
By: Digital Man to alterego on Thu Apr 16 2020 09:48 pm

recipients are supported. Are do you mean when sending mail from the
terminal server (BBS)? It's technically supported, but I don't think I
have a UI mechanism for BBS users to do that.

Yes that latter. (And via the BBS).

I see the CC on incoming mail, but replying I want to CC all basically...

Ah, I see. Shouldn't be too hard. I'll give it some thought.

I've seen this implemented by other boards where it asks if you want to include a CC. If you do yes then you can enter each address on a new line. You can then just build an array of CC addresses to cycle through.

You could go a step further an request if users wants to CC or BC or just hit enter to continue.

Yeah, but I would like to avoid a whole bunch of prompts every time you send an email/netmail message. I'll give it some thought.

digital man

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Re: Re: Emails
By: Digital Man to Nelgin on Fri Apr 17 2020 07:00 pm

You could go a step further an request if users wants to CC or BC or just hit enter to continue.

Yeah, but I would like to avoid a whole bunch of prompts every time you send an email/netmail message. I'll give it some thought.

Fair enough. Or just provide an empty CC box and let the sysop hit enter to pass through, you could give them the option for prompt, box, or none in the general setup possibly or provide a separate option for new mail with CC?

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Re: Fido
By: Altere to Havok on Fri Apr 17 2020 12:55 pm

Would seem the bbs doesn't have permission to write to that directory. The directory should be owned by the user:group that sbbs is running as.

I'm hoping your right and if so it should be fixed now!

Thank you


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Re: Fido
By: Digital Man to Havok on Fri Apr 17 2020 04:31 pm

What user is 'sbbs' running as? What user owns the sbbs/data directory? What user owns the files sbbs/data/mail.*?

bbs:bbs

I'll look over everything today just to make sure all my fido and binkit
settings are right.

Thank you for the advise!


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Re: Fido
By: Havok to Digital Man on Sat Apr 18 2020 05:37 am

Re: Fido
By: Digital Man to Havok on Fri Apr 17 2020 04:31 pm

What user is 'sbbs' running as? What user owns the sbbs/data directory? What user owns the files sbbs/data/mail.*?

bbs:bbs

I'll look over everything today just to make sure all my fido and binkit
settings are right.

I don't think that's relevant to the error reported.

Perhaps if you copy and pasted more details, starting with the "ls -la /sbbs/data/mail.*" output.

Also, if you ;shell from the BBS and run "whoami", what does the OS report?

digital man

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Re: Re: Emails
By: Digital Man to Nelgin on Fri Apr 17 2020 19:00:01

Yeah, but I would like to avoid a whole bunch of prompts every time you send email/netmail message. I'll give it some thought.

I agree. FWIW and IIRC, GT Power BBS used to allow you to CC or BCC people on a netmail message by adding a line that started with a period to the actual body of the message. So:

(period)CC(space)Digital Man@1:2/3 <= would cc you on the netmail (period)BC(space)Digital Man@mail.synchro.net <= would bcc you

I may not be remembering that exactly right, but I do know it did not prompt you for a CC or BCC everytime you entered a netmail.

I have not really thought of ever CCing folks much, only if I want to send the same netmail to mulitple connects regarding downtime or other info.

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Re: Re: Emails
By: Digital Man to Nelgin on Fri Apr 17 2020 19:00:01

You could go a step further an request if users wants to CC or BC or just hit enter to continue.

Yeah, but I would like to avoid a whole bunch of prompts every time you send an email/netmail message. I'll give it some thought.

most all of the one's i'm familiar with use CC: and/or BCC: lines at the very top of the message body... oyu put them in manually... when the message is saved, the BBS processes it looking for those lines... if it finds them, it sends the message to the addresses listed in them using the proper format... yes, this does mean that multiple messages are generated in the mail base, each with the proper destination address listed...


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Re: Re: Emails
By: Rampage to Digital Man on Sat Apr 18 2020 12:04 pm

Re: Re: Emails
By: Digital Man to Nelgin on Fri Apr 17 2020 19:00:01

You could go a step further an request if users wants to CC or BC or just hit enter to continue.

Yeah, but I would like to avoid a whole bunch of prompts every time you send an email/netmail message. I'll give it some thought.

most all of the one's i'm familiar with use CC: and/or BCC: lines at the very top of the message body... oyu put them in manually... when the message is saved, the BBS processes it looking for those lines... if it finds them, it sends the message to the addresses listed in them using the proper format... yes, this does mean that multiple messages are generated in the mail base, each with the proper destination address listed...

Well, one of the features of SMB is that you'd have multiple headers (one for each recipient), but only one copy of the message data (body text).

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Re: Re: Emails
By: Digital Man to Rampage on Sat Apr 18 2020 14:41:24


Rampage>> most all of the one's i'm familiar with use CC: and/or BCC:
Rampage>> lines at the very top of the message body... oyu put them in
Rampage>> manually... when the message is saved, the BBS processes it
Rampage>> looking for those lines... if it finds them, it sends the
Rampage>> message to the addresses listed in them using the proper
Rampage>> format... yes, this does mean that multiple messages are
Rampage>> generated in the mail base, each with the proper destination
Rampage>> address listed...

Well, one of the features of SMB is that you'd have multiple headers
(one for each recipient), but only one copy of the message data (body text).

that's cool and sounds like a very neat feature...

i was just describing what i'm used to seeing and how it is done in other packages...

i'm not sure how a CC: message stored like that might be edited and resent to only one or two of the original receipients instead of all of them... not that that should have to be done but i've seen weirder ;)


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Re: Fido
By: Havok to Altere on Fri Apr 17 2020 05:51 pm

Would seem the bbs doesn't have permission to write to that
directory. The directory should be owned by the user:group that sbbs
is running as.

I have run chown -R bbs:bbs sbbs
Still have the error.

Assuming your root sbbs directory is /sbbs and all directories and files are owned by user bbs & you're starting sbbs as user bbs & sbbs.ini under [UNIX] User/Group is uncommented and = bbs then maybe it's not. But I would still have to assume it's a permissions error with the information given.

What does 'ps aux | grep sbbs' report?
What got logged in the error log, ;ERR?
What got logged in your syslog/messages log?

-altere

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Re: Fido
By: Altere to Havok on Sat Apr 18 2020 06:49 pm

Assuming your root sbbs directory is /sbbs and all directories and files are owned by user bbs & you're starting sbbs as user bbs & sbbs.ini under [UNIX] User/Group is uncommented and = bbs then maybe it's not. But I would still have to assume it's a permissions error with the information

Morning!

That part is fixed now, tanx for the info from your end.

Now if I can get my bind ports to work right, I have my binkit on port 24565
and in linked nodes, Binkp settings ports both are 24554.

I have all the ports to sbbs with the right (rights) no bind error other
then 24554.

Soon as I figure that out I'll be good to go!

Thanks...


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Re: Fido
By: Havok to Altere on Sun Apr 19 2020 07:20 am

Assuming your root sbbs directory is /sbbs and all directories and
files are owned by user bbs & you're starting sbbs as user bbs &
sbbs.ini under [UNIX] User/Group is uncommented and = bbs then maybe
it's not. But I would still have to assume it's a permissions error
with the information

That part is fixed now, tanx for the info from your end.

Just to recap, you were getting "!ERROR writing /home/bbs/sbbs/data/mail", mind sharing what you did to resolve this issue? It might help in others having a simialar problem, or giving suggestions, etc..

Now if I can get my bind ports to work right, I have my binkit on port 24565 and in linked nodes, Binkp settings ports both are 24554.

Port binding shouldn't be an issue with numbers that high unless something else is around bound to them, you might need to check your all related files to enable it and get it running as a service. Or as DM suggested, his init-fidonet.js would be easier probably.

-altere

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Re: Fido
By: Altere to Havok on Sun Apr 19 2020 01:49 pm

Port binding shouldn't be an issue with numbers that high unless something else is around bound to them, you might need to check your all related files to enable it and get it running as a service. Or as DM suggested,

Hello!

Service as in a debian service?

Thanks...




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Re: Fido
By: Havok to Altere on Sun Apr 19 2020 06:26 pm

Port binding shouldn't be an issue with numbers that high unless
something else is around bound to them, you might need to check your
all related files to enable it and get it running as a service. Or
as DM suggested,

Service as in a debian service?

No.
http://wiki.synchro.net/module:binkit#service

Again, I'm pretty sure the init-fidonet.js checks all this for you.

-altere

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Re: Fido
By: Altere to Havok on Mon Apr 20 2020 06:30 pm

http://wiki.synchro.net/module:binkit#service
Again, I'm pretty sure the init-fidonet.js checks all this for you.

Hay morning!

Thanks for the info right now everything seems to be working so far!

Information sharing is a good thing....


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Re: Fido
By: Altere to Havok on Mon Apr 20 2020 06:30 pm

Again, I'm pretty sure the init-fidonet.js checks all this for you.

I'll look into it in the AM

Thank you!


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