I don't doubt I have something set up wrong, but here goes...

It used to be when I was logged onto the BBS via the web interface, I could click on File Libraries, it would open up a page and I could click on and download files.

Now, whether I am using Firefox or Chromium, when I click on File
Libraries, I am asked if I want to open or download the 00index.html file.
If I choose open, it will open that page OK, but every link on that page is prefixed with "file:///" instead of "http://" or "ftp:" . So, of course,
it thinks that every link is on the local machine.

Is that a bug I picked up during a recent pull down, or do I have something
set up wrong now?

Thanks!


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Re: Web interface file areas
By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Tue Apr 14 2020 02:48 pm

I don't doubt I have something set up wrong, but here goes...

It used to be when I was logged onto the BBS via the web interface, I could click on File Libraries, it would open up a page and I could click on and download files.

Now, whether I am using Firefox or Chromium, when I click on File
Libraries, I am asked if I want to open or download the 00index.html file. If I choose open, it will open that page OK, but every link on that page is prefixed with "file:///" instead of "http://" or "ftp:" . So, of course,
it thinks that every link is on the local machine.

Is that a bug I picked up during a recent pull down, or do I have something set up wrong now?

This is now an official FAQ: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ftp_html

digital man

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On 2020 Apr 14 14:48:00, you wrote to ALL:

Now, whether I am using Firefox or Chromium, when I click on File Libraries, I am asked if I want to open or download the 00index.html file.

[...]

Is that a bug I picked up during a recent pull down, or do I have something set up wrong now?

this is a browser thing... they are not rendering html pages pulled via ftp any
more... there was a discussion about this in the last week or two... i don't recall which area it was in, though... might even have been on irc... but yeah...

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El 14/4/20 a las 20:26, Digital Man escribi¢:

Re: Web interface file areas
By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Tue Apr 14 2020 02:48 pm

I don't doubt I have something set up wrong, but here goes...

It used to be when I was logged onto the BBS via the web interface, I could
click on File Libraries, it would open up a page and I could click on and download files.

Now, whether I am using Firefox or Chromium, when I click on File Libraries, I am asked if I want to open or download the 00index.html file. If I choose open, it will open that page OK, but every link on that page is
prefixed with "file:///" instead of "http://" or "ftp:" . So, of course, it thinks that every link is on the local machine.

Is that a bug I picked up during a recent pull down, or do I have something
set up wrong now?

This is now an official FAQ: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ftp_html

digital man

I suggest that the 00index (text plain index) must be renamed to
00index.txt with extension will help to "open with text editor" intead
of "Save only" for most browsers.

thanks!

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El 15/4/20 a las 09:42, Ragnarok escribi¢:

El 14/4/20 a las 20:26, Digital Man escribi¢:

Re: Web interface file areas
By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Tue Apr 14 2020 02:48 pm

I don't doubt I have something set up wrong, but here goes...

It used to be when I was logged onto the BBS via the web interface, I could
click on File Libraries, it would open up a page and I could click on and >> > download files.

Now, whether I am using Firefox or Chromium, when I click on File
Libraries, I am asked if I want to open or download the 00index.html file.
If I choose open, it will open that page OK, but every link on that page is
prefixed with "file:///" instead of "http://" or "ftp:" . So, of course, >> > it thinks that every link is on the local machine.

Is that a bug I picked up during a recent pull down, or do I have something
set up wrong now?

This is now an official FAQ: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ftp_html

digital man

I suggest that the 00index (text plain index) must be renamed to
00index.txt with extension will help to "open with text editor" intead
of "Save only" for most browsers.

thanks!

I forgot, also.. will be good that have extended description like
files.bbs . Maybe as optional feature and optional file name
00_index_long.txt or something.

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El 14/4/20 a las 23:47, mark lewis escribi¢:

On 2020 Apr 14 14:48:00, you wrote to ALL:

Now, whether I am using Firefox or Chromium, when I click on File Libraries, I am asked if I want to open or download the 00index.html file.

[...]

Is that a bug I picked up during a recent pull down, or do I have something set up wrong now?

this is a browser thing... they are not rendering html pages pulled via ftp any
more... there was a discussion about this in the last week or two... i don't recall which area it was in, though... might even have been on irc... but yeah...

)\/(ark

Yeah, i'm firefox user i miss the html page from bbs ftp

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Re: Re: Web interface file areas
By: Ragnarok to Digital Man on Wed Apr 15 2020 09:42 am

El 14/4/20 a las 20:26, Digital Man escribi¢:

Re: Web interface file areas
By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Tue Apr 14 2020 02:48 pm

I don't doubt I have something set up wrong, but here goes...

It used to be when I was logged onto the BBS via the web interface, I could
click on File Libraries, it would open up a page and I could click on and download files.

Now, whether I am using Firefox or Chromium, when I click on File Libraries, I am asked if I want to open or download the 00index.html file. If I choose open, it will open that page OK, but every link on that page is
prefixed with "file:///" instead of "http://" or "ftp:" . So, of course, it thinks that every link is on the local machine.

Is that a bug I picked up during a recent pull down, or do I have something
set up wrong now?

This is now an official FAQ: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ftp_html

I suggest that the 00index (text plain index) must be renamed to
00index.txt with extension will help to "open with text editor" intead
of "Save only" for most browsers.

That name is configurable, so you can change it.

The long-held standard was "00index" (no extension) and FTP clients (e.g. FTP Explorer) would automatically detect and use the contents "00index", I'm not so sure if they would recognize/use 00index.txt, but it's worth a shot. Anyway, please feel free to experiment and let us know what you find!

digital man

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This is now an official FAQ: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ftp_html

Thanks. I heard it was a point of discussion here recently but I
apparently missed it. :)


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Re: Web interface file areas
By: Dumas Walker to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Apr 15 2020 17:56:00

This is now an official FAQ: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ftp_html

Thanks. I heard it was a point of discussion here recently but I apparently missed it. :)

and then there's this decision recently made by at least one of the browser groups...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/04/15/ftp_chrome_deprecation_on_hold/


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and then there's this decision recently made by at least one of the browser gro
ps...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/04/15/ftp_chrome_deprecation_on_hold/

Interesting.


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The long-held standard was "00index" (no extension) and FTP clients (e.g. FTP E
plorer) would automatically detect and use the contents "00index", I'm not so s
re if they would recognize/use 00index.txt, but it's worth a shot. Anyway, plea
e feel free to experiment and let us know what you find!

Are there any plans to turn the File Areas on the web interface over from
ftp to http?

Once upon a time I think I remember some browsers could be configured to
call an external ftp client. I wonder if that is still the case. I will
have to look. :)


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Re: Re: Web interface file ar
By: Dumas Walker to DIGITAL MAN on Thu Apr 16 2020 05:29 pm

The long-held standard was "00index" (no extension) and FTP clients (e.g. FTP E
plorer) would automatically detect and use the contents "00index", I'm not so s
re if they would recognize/use 00index.txt, but it's worth a shot. Anyway, plea
e feel free to experiment and let us know what you find!

Are there any plans to turn the File Areas on the web interface over from ftp to http?

Yes. There's already at least one implementation of that: http://web.synchro.net/?page=002-files.xjs

digital man

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Re: Re: Web interface file ar
By: Dumas Walker to DIGITAL MAN on Thu Apr 16 2020 05:29 pm

Are there any plans to turn the File Areas on the web interface over from ftp to http?

I think echicken's ecwebv4 already uses HTTP for the files, but I'm sure echicken can correct me if I'm wrong.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Web interface file ar
By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Thu Apr 16 2020 16:00:03

Are there any plans to turn the File Areas on the web interface over from
ftp to http?

I think echicken's ecwebv4 already uses HTTP for the files, but I'm sure echicken can correct me if
I'm wrong.

It does. I probably need to give the File Library features some more attention, but they exist and they work.

Also, I don't think there's any consistent plan for updating or maintaining the stock/runemaster web UI, so the chances of its File Libray stuff being upgraded are pretty slim.

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Re: Re: Web interface file ar
By: echicken to Nightfox on Thu Apr 16 2020 08:25 pm

Re: Re: Web interface file ar
By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Thu Apr 16 2020 16:00:03

Are there any plans to turn the File Areas on the web interface over from
ftp to http?

I think echicken's ecwebv4 already uses HTTP for the files, but I'm sure echicken can correct me if I'm wrong.

It does. I probably need to give the File Library features some more attention, but they exist and they work.

Also, I don't think there's any consistent plan for updating or maintaining the stock/runemaster web UI, so the chances of its File Libray stuff being upgraded are pretty slim.

The stock/legacy/runemaster web UI actually doesn't really have a File Library thing, it just points to the FTP-server's JS-generated HTML URL
e.g. ftp://vert.synchro.net/00index.html?$<rand-num>

... and that HTML is generated by exec/ftp-html.js, unless the sysop changed the config to use exec/ftp-web-html.js instead, which uses a theme/style matching the default runemaster web UI. Either way, it's the FTP server that's executing the JavaScript and serving up the dynamically-generated HTML. Which was a pretty cool thing while it lasted but now that browsers have stopped rendering files served via FTP, it's pretty much moot and will probably be ripped out at some point. Oh wells.

digital man

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Re: Re: Web interface file ar
By: echicken to Nightfox on Thu Apr 16 2020 08:25 pm

Also, I don't think there's any consistent plan for updating or maintaining the stock/runemaster web UI, so the chances of its File Libray stuff being upgraded are pretty slim.

I thought I read that the plan was to eventually just include your ecweb as part of Synchronet (I know it was with the last release, but the Runemaster interface was still there too, as an option). It seems like the Runemaster interface hasn't had much attention for a long time. Yours seems simpler to add to and maintain, and it works well, so I don't see why ecweb couldn't be the standard web interface for Synchronet now.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Web interface file ar
By: Nightfox to echicken on Thu Apr 16 2020 06:28 pm

Re: Re: Web interface file ar
By: echicken to Nightfox on Thu Apr 16 2020 08:25 pm

Also, I don't think there's any consistent plan for updating or maintaining the stock/runemaster web UI, so the chances of its File Libray stuff being upgraded are pretty slim.

I thought I read that the plan was to eventually just include your ecweb as part of Synchronet (I know it was with the last release, but the Runemaster interface was still there too, as an option). It seems like the Runemaster interface hasn't had much attention for a long time. Yours seems simpler to add to and maintain, and it works well, so I don't see why ecweb couldn't be the standard web interface for Synchronet now.

Yup. Will likely stop including the old web UI at some point and only include ec's web UI.

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Re: Re: Web interface file ar
By: Nightfox to echicken on Thu Apr 16 2020 18:28:01

I thought I read that the plan was to eventually just include your ecweb as part of Synchronet (I

Not sure about that, nor too bothered one way or another. I still think of it as an alternative web UI, and have a list of things I want to improve.

simpler to add to and maintain, and it works well, so I don't see why ecweb couldn't be the standard
web interface for Synchronet now.

It may be missing some features that already exist in the Runemaster UI, so in a sense it *could* be a downgrade. Unfortunately I don't have a list of everything the old UI can do, so it's hard to be sure of feature parity.

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El 16/4/20 a las 21:25, echicken escribi¢:

Re: Re: Web interface file ar
By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Thu Apr 16 2020 16:00:03

Are there any plans to turn the File Areas on the web interface over from
ftp to http?

I think echicken's ecwebv4 already uses HTTP for the files, but I'm sure echicken can correct me if
I'm wrong.

It does. I probably need to give the File Library features some more attention, but they exist and they work.

Search for description/filename can be great feature.

Also, I don't think there's any consistent plan for updating or maintaining the stock/runemaster web UI, so the chances of its File Libray stuff being upgraded are pretty slim.

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El 16/4/20 a las 22:28, Nightfox escribi¢:

Re: Re: Web interface file ar
By: echicken to Nightfox on Thu Apr 16 2020 08:25 pm

Also, I don't think there's any consistent plan for updating or maintaining the stock/runemaster web UI, so the chances of its File Libray
stuff being upgraded are pretty slim.

I thought I read that the plan was to eventually just include your ecweb as part of Synchronet (I know it was with the last release, but the Runemaster interface was still there too, as an option). It seems like the Runemaster interface hasn't had much attention for a long time. Yours seems simpler to add to and maintain, and it works well, so I don't see why ecweb couldn't be the standard web interface for Synchronet now.

Nightfox

+1

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Re: Re: Web interface file ar
By: Digital Man to Dumas Walker on Thu Apr 16 2020 15:58:01

Are there any plans to turn the File Areas on the web interface over from ftp to http?

Yes. There's already at least one implementation of that: http://web.synchro.net/?page=002-files.xjs

Is that echicken's interface (which I have on my to-do list to add), or is that something else? Whatever it is, I like it.

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Re: Re: Web interface file areas
By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Sat Apr 18 2020 08:52 am

Re: Re: Web interface file ar
By: Digital Man to Dumas Walker on Thu Apr 16 2020 15:58:01

Are there any plans to turn the File Areas on the web interface over from ftp to http?

Yes. There's already at least one implementation of that: http://web.synchro.net/?page=002-files.xjs

Is that echicken's interface (which I have on my to-do list to add), or is that something else? Whatever it is, I like it.

Yeah, that's part of ecWebv4

digital man

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