In Line 71 I have a question DM:

"\1n\r\n\1c¨ \1h\1bReading \1n\1c¨ %4u\b\b\b\b%s\1\\"\ 071
ReadingSub
" %4u\b\b\b\b\1h%s \1n\1c(\1h?\1n\1c=Menu) (\1h%u\1n\1c of \1h%u\1n\1c): \1n"

Which variables can I add color to? The %4u or the %s?

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Mar 09 2020 08:11 am

In Line 71 I have a question DM:

"\1n\r\n\1c¨ \1h\1bReading \1n\1c¨ %4u\b\b\b\b%s\1\\"\ 071 ReadingSub
" %4u\b\b\b\b\1h%s \1n\1c(\1h?\1n\1c=Menu) (\1h%u\1n\1c of \1h%u\1n\1c): \1n"

Which variables can I add color to? The %4u or the %s?

You can add Ctrl-A codes before or after any of the variable specifiers (%x).

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Mar 09 2020 08:11 am

You can add Ctrl-A codes before or after any of the variable specifiers (%x).

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A couple more questions I have to ask DM on this same topic.

1. Only 1 h can be used at one time on one line right to get bright?

Example: "\1c\1hPlease write your message \1y%s" <- right
Example: "\1c\1hPlease write your message \1y\1h%s" <-wrong

2. You cannot exceed the 2000 character limit in the quotes correct?

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 10 2020 07:22 pm

Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Mar 09 2020 08:11 am

You can add Ctrl-A codes before or after any of the variable specifiers (%x).

A couple more questions I have to ask DM on this same topic.

1. Only 1 h can be used at one time on one line right to get bright?

Example: "\1c\1hPlease write your message \1y%s" <- right
Example: "\1c\1hPlease write your message \1y\1h%s" <-wrong

No, you can toggle bright on/off multiple times in a single line. But turning bright off (with Ctrl-AN) also clears the current color attribute.
"\1hBright \1nNormal \1hBright \1nNorml" <- works fine

2. You cannot exceed the 2000 character limit in the quotes correct?

That's correct.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 10 2020 07:22 pm

No, you can toggle bright on/off multiple times in a single line. But turning bright off (with Ctrl-AN) also clears the current color attribute.
"\1hBright \1nNormal \1hBright \1nNorml" <- works fine

That's correct.

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But if you want the whole line to be bright then? Also Line "011 Post"
should be renamed to "011 PostQ" since it's asking a question.

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But if you want the whole line to be bright then? Also Line "011 Post"
should be renamed to "011 PostQ" since it's asking a question.

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Also, line "055 OK" should be changed to "055 OKQ" since it's also
asking a question.

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Also, line "055 OK" should be changed to "055 OKQ" since it's also
asking a question.

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Also line 27 should have a period after the word "number":

"Invalid line number\r\n" 027 InvalidLineNumber "Invalid line number.\r\n" 027 InvalidLineNumber

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 10 2020 19:22:28

1. Only 1 h can be used at one time on one line right to get bright?

Example: "\1c\1hPlease write your message \1y%s" <- right
Example: "\1c\1hPlease write your message \1y\1h%s" <-wrong

you can use as many as you want/need but they won't do anything unless the color sequence has been set back to normal... in your "wrong" example above, the one you added is not needed because the first one is still in play and hasn't been negated...


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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 10 2020 19:22:28

you can use as many as you want/need but they won't do anything unless the color sequence has been set back to normal... in your "wrong" example above, the one you added is not needed because the first one is still in play and hasn't been negated...

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Yes, but take for example the "Happy Birthday" line 329:

"\7\7\r\n\1h\1rH\1ba\1gp\1yp\1cy \1mB\1wi\1rr\1gt\1bh\1cd\1ma\1yy "\ 329 HappyBirthday "\1wt\1ro \1gy\1bo\1cu\r\n\7\7\1mH\1ya\1wp\1rp\1gy "\ "\1bB\1ci\1mr\1yt\1wh\1rd\1ga\1by \1ct\1mo \1yy\1wo\1ru\1g.\1b.\1c.\r\n\r\n"

If you use a lot of h's then the lines will be horribly long.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Wed Mar 11 2020 08:21:04


Rampage>> you can use as many as you want/need but they won't do anything unless
Rampage>> the color sequence has been set back to normal... in your "wrong"
Rampage>> example above, the one you added is not needed because the first one is
Rampage>> still in play and hasn't been negated...

Yes, but take for example the "Happy Birthday" line 329:

[trim example]

If you use a lot of h's then the lines will be horribly long.

yep but that's how it goes... especially if you are flipping between high and normal... this is why one of the optimizations is to set high at the beginning of the sequence you want high and then set normal for the rest...

in other words:

\1\hdo stuff in high here\1\ndo stuff in low here

is better than

\1\hd\1\ho \1\hs\1\ht\1\hu\1\hf\1\hf \1\hh\1\he\1\hr\1\he

so yeah, be conservative for best performance...

i'm curious, though... why are you making so many thing high color?


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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Mar 11 2020 04:41 am

Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 10 2020 07:22 pm

No, you can toggle bright on/off multiple times in a single line. But turning bright off (with Ctrl-AN) also clears the current color attribute. "\1hBright \1nNormal \1hBright \1nNorml" <- works fine

That's correct.

But if you want the whole line to be bright then?

Then enable high-intensity and don't clear it.

Also Line "011 Post"
should be renamed to "011 PostQ" since it's asking a question.

That text lines has been named that way for 25+ years, it's not going to change now.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Mar 11 2020 05:15 am

But if you want the whole line to be bright then? Also Line "011 Post" should be renamed to "011 PostQ" since it's asking a question.

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Also, line "055 OK" should be changed to "055 OKQ" since it's also
asking a question.

I'm not going to be renaming any of the text.dat lines, so you can stop "shoulding" on me now.

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The Millionaire wrote to Rampage <=-

you can use as many as you want/need but they won't do anything unless the color sequence has been set back to normal... in your "wrong" example above, the one you added is not needed because the first one is still in play and hasn't been negated...

Yes, but take for example the "Happy Birthday" line 329:

"\7\7\r\n\1h\1rH\1ba\1gp\1yp\1cy \1mB\1wi\1rr\1gt\1bh\1cd\1ma\1yy
"\ 329 HappyBirthday "\1wt\1ro \1gy\1bo\1cu\r\n\7\7\1mH\1ya\1wp\1rp\1gy "\ "\1bB\1ci\1mr\1yt\1wh\1rd\1ga\1by \1ct\1mo \1yy\1wo\1ru\1g.\1b.\1c.\r\n\r\n"

If you use a lot of h's then the lines will be horribly long.

Depends how you define "horribly long". That example above
doesn't fit that description, to me.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Wed Mar 11 2020 08:21:04

Rampage>> you can use as many as you want/need but they won't do anything unless
Rampage>> the color sequence has been set back to normal... in your "wrong"
Rampage>> example above, the one you added is not needed because the first one is
Rampage>> still in play and hasn't been negated...

[trim example]

yep but that's how it goes... especially if you are flipping between high and normal... this is why one of the optimizations is to set high at the beginning of the sequence you want high and then set normal for the rest...

in other words:

\1\hdo stuff in high here\1\ndo stuff in low here

is better than

\1\hd\1\ho \1\hs\1\ht\1\hu\1\hf\1\hf \1\hh\1\he\1\hr\1\he

so yeah, be conservative for best performance...

i'm curious, though... why are you making so many thing high color?

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If you have the labels too close to quotes can that cause Synchronet to screw up?

For Example:

"\1c\1hThis is a test.\r\n" 001 Test

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The Millionaire wrote to Rampage <=-

If you have the labels too close to quotes can that cause
Synchronet to screw up?

For Example:

"\1c\1hThis is a test.\r\n" 001 Test

No, it won't cause it to "screw up". Anything after the closing "
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No, it won't cause it to "screw up". Anything after the closing "
symbol is ignored (as is stated on the Wiki...).

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Which characters are they talking about here:

Customize

Knowledge of the C programming language may be very helpful in producing the desired results. If all you want to do is change colors of a certain text line, take care not to disturb the arrangement of the other characters on the line. Ctrl-A codes can be preceded by an embedded actual Ctrl-A (ASCII 0x01) character or by a '\1' (the C printf() escape sequence representing a Ctrl-A character).

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 13 2020 06:58:57

If you have the labels too close to quotes can that cause Synchronet to screw up?

For Example:

"\1c\1hThis is a test.\r\n" 001 Test

likely not but why would you do this?

you realize this will make it a lot harder to diff/compare with new additions and changes to text.dat, don't you??


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The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

No, it won't cause it to "screw up". Anything after the closing "
symbol is ignored (as is stated on the Wiki...).

Which characters are they talking about here:

Customize

Knowledge of the C programming language may be very helpful in
producing the desired results. If all you want to do is change
colors of a certain text line, take care not to disturb the
arrangement of the other characters on the line. Ctrl-A codes can
be preceded by an embedded actual Ctrl-A (ASCII 0x01) character
or by a '\1' (the C printf() escape sequence representing a
Ctrl-A character).

The other characters on the line, just as it says. Everything
between the starting " symbol, and the closing " symbol.



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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 13 2020 06:58:57

likely not but why would you do this?

you realize this will make it a lot harder to diff/compare with new additions and changes to text.dat, don't you??

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True but when I run it, it just crashes the Synchronet BBS saying it's a corrupt text.dat file anyways.

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The other characters on the line, just as it says. Everything
between the starting " symbol, and the closing " symbol.

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You mean the \r\n. Of course those DM said you can't remove.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Fri Mar 13 2020 01:37 pm

You mean the \r\n. Of course those DM said you can't remove.

Huh?

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Fri Mar 13 2020 01:37 pm

Huh?

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You told me a long time ago to never remove:

\r = carriage return
\n = line feed

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 13 2020 13:35:35

True but when I run it, it just crashes the Synchronet BBS saying it's a corrupt text.dat file anyways.

sounds like something got messed up...

remember, there are somethings that cannot be removed or swapped around in the lines... things like "%s", "%d", "%f", and similar... they must stay in the same relative position because that's where the C code expects them to be... plus they have certain meanings... check the C printf docs for examples ;)


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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 13 2020 13:35:35

sounds like something got messed up...

remember, there are somethings that cannot be removed or swapped around in the lines... things like "%s", "%d", "%f", and similar... they must stay in the same relative position because that's where the C code expects them to be... plus they have certain meanings... check the C printf docs for examples ;)

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Those are all still in there. The problem is why does it get corrupt? All I do is just add colours to variables.

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Those are all still in there. The problem is why does it get corrupt? All I do is just add colours to variables.

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Can I send you my file and look and see what's wrong with it maybe even possibly test it on a computer with Synchronet on it and give me the results? That would help a lot.

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The Millionaire wrote to Rampage <=-

sounds like something got messed up...
remember, there are somethings that cannot be removed or swapped around in the lines... things like "%s", "%d", "%f", and similar... they must stay in the same relative position because that's where the C code expects them to be... plus they have certain meanings... check the C printf docs for

examples

Those are all still in there. The problem is why does it get
corrupt? All I do is just add colours to variables.

My guess would be the way that you're editing the file. What
editor are you using for the task?



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examples

My guess would be the way that you're editing the file. What
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I'm using "Find, Replace, Etcetera" and "Pages" to edit the text.dat
file with. Not too many free text editor apps out there for the iPad.

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The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

The other characters on the line, just as it says. Everything
between the starting " symbol, and the closing " symbol.

You mean the \r\n. Of course those DM said you can't remove.

For fucks sake, NO, that isn't what I mean.

I mean exactly what I said right up there, above.

Everything between the fucking beginning " symbol, and the fucking
last " symbol.

Why can't you fucking understand simple fucking English?


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Mar 13 2020 06:20 pm

Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Fri Mar 13 2020 01:37 pm

Huh?

You told me a long time ago to never remove:

\r = carriage return
\n = line feed

You can do whatever you like. If it looks weird after you remove something, put it back. <shrug>

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 13 2020 18:54:54


Rampage>> remember, there are somethings that cannot be removed or swapped around
Rampage>> in the lines... things like "%s", "%d", "%f", and similar... they must
Rampage>> stay in the same relative position because that's where the C code expects
Rampage>> them to be... plus they have certain meanings... check the C printf docs
Rampage>> for examples ;)

Those are all still in there.

ok... and in the same order they were to start with, i assume?

The problem is why does it get corrupt? All I do is just add colours to variables.

what editor are you using? a plain ASCII text editor is all that is needed... you definitely do not want to be using a document editor...


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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 13 2020 18:59:21

Can I send you my file and look and see what's wrong with it maybe even possibly
test it on a computer with Synchronet on it and give me the results? That would
help a lot.

sure, i guess...


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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 13 2020 18:54:54

Rampage>> remember, there are somethings that cannot be removed or swapped around
Rampage>> in the lines... things like "%s", "%d", "%f", and similar... they must
Rampage>> stay in the same relative position because that's where the C code expects
Rampage>> them to be... plus they have certain meanings... check the C printf docs
Rampage>> for examples ;)

ok... and in the same order they were to start with, i assume?

what editor are you using? a plain ASCII text editor is all that is needed... you definitely do not want to be using a document editor...

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I'm using "Find, Replace, Etcetera" and "Pages".

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 13 2020 18:59:21

sure, i guess...

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Ok, How do I send it to you? By email? By U/L?

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 14 2020 09:11:06

Ok, How do I send it to you? By email? By U/L?

you can upload it to me on my BBS, i guess... maybe you can send it via email/netmail... i dunno...


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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 14 2020 09:11:06

you can upload it to me on my BBS, i guess... maybe you can send it via email/netmail... i dunno...

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Well I U/L it to your BBS in Sysop dir.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 14 2020 18:27:18

Well I U/L it to your BBS in Sysop dir.

ok, yeah... a few things...

1. do not remove the leading spaces before the first quote... they are continued lines from the line above... removing the leading spaces breaks things...

lines 2 thru 6 are perfect examples of this... they are all continuations of line 1...


2. do not remove the tilde "~" from lines... it is used to determine which key is the menu key to be hilighted... removing it makes the bbs not know which keys are option keys...

line 57 (prompt 43) is a perfect example of menu key breakage... there's supposed to be three menu keys defined in that line but your edit removed all of them so the system doesn't know which keys it is supposed to use for the menu options...


3. don't remove the spaces between the closing quote or closing quote followed by a slash and the prompt number... it needlessly complicates comparing the file changes with a default text.dat... i spent the majority of my time analyzing the file putting back these spaces and the ones at the beginning of the lines as noted in #1 above...


i don't know exactly what you did to break things but i suspect the first two above are the main culprits... i stopped repairing the above after maybe an hour...

i did note that you seem to have removed a happy birthday line around 398 or 399 because the time to change password prompt was raised up by one line... maybe this was the main breakage? i dunno and no, sorry, i won't load it into my bbs as i don't want to crash it or affect its uptime outside of my own downing it ;)

so, if i were you, i'd start again with a clean text.dat, leave the spaces and tildes alone, and then make your color changes... i'd also make only a couple of changes at a time and then test... this way you can catch breakage sooner and have a better idea of what you did to break it...

anyway... there ya go...


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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 14 2020 18:27:18

ok, yeah... a few things...

1. do not remove the leading spaces before the first quote... they are continued lines from the line above... removing the leading spaces breaks things...

lines 2 thru 6 are perfect examples of this... they are all continuations of line 1...

2. do not remove the tilde "~" from lines... it is used to determine which key is the menu key to be hilighted... removing it makes the bbs not know which keys are option keys...

line 57 (prompt 43) is a perfect example of menu key breakage... there's supposed to be three menu keys defined in that line but your edit removed all of them so the system doesn't know which keys it is supposed to use for the menu options...

3. don't remove the spaces between the closing quote or closing quote followed by a slash and the prompt number... it needlessly complicates comparing the file changes with a default text.dat... i spent the majority of my time analyzing the file putting back these spaces and the ones at the beginning of the lines as noted in #1 above...

i don't know exactly what you did to break things but i suspect the first two above are the main culprits... i stopped repairing the above after maybe an hour...

i did note that you seem to have removed a happy birthday line around 398 or 399 because the time to change password prompt was raised up by one line... maybe this was the main breakage? i dunno and no, sorry, i won't load it into my bbs as i don't want to crash it or affect its uptime outside of my own downing it ;)

so, if i were you, i'd start again with a clean text.dat, leave the spaces and tildes alone, and then make your color changes... i'd also make only a couple of changes at a time and then test... this way you can catch breakage sooner and have a better idea of what you did to break it...

anyway... there ya go...

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Well thank you very much for your time and input. It was greatly appreciated and interesting to see how this text file really works from the inside. The "Happy Birthday" in line 329 was altered for a reason to make it a little different than the original lines.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Mar 15 2020 09:57:11

Well thank you very much for your time and input. It was greatly appreciated
and interesting to see how this text file really works from the inside.

yeah... it may be in a text file format but originally it wasn't... when it is used, it is deeply embedded in how the system works...

The "Happy Birthday" in line 329 was altered for a reason to make it a little different than the original lines.

i understand that but i don't know that you can just delete lines...

something else i noticed... around the line you marked with '*****', you somehow started putting '\ 1 c' codes (spaced here so sbbs doesn't interprete them) after the closing quotes... you can't do that, either... certainly not after the quotes and before or after the '\' line contuation indicator...


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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Mar 15 2020 09:57:11

yeah... it may be in a text file format but originally it wasn't... when it is used, it is deeply embedded in how the system works...

i understand that but i don't know that you can just delete lines...

something else i noticed... around the line you marked with '*****', you somehow started putting '\ 1 c' codes (spaced here so sbbs doesn't interprete them) after the closing quotes... you can't do that, either... certainly not after the quotes and before or after the '\' line contuation indicator...

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It shouldn't really make a difference what I did but apparently it did for
some reason. The "*" were for a reminder of where I left off. The "\1c"
were there because it was a working code for each line to remember to remove once the line was completely edited. I was thinking maybe the labels were too close to the quotes causing errors.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Mar 13 2020 06:20 pm

You can do whatever you like. If it looks weird after you remove something, put it back. <shrug>

digital man

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Does having the labels close to quotes cause a problem?

For Example:

"\r\nThis is how I write the line.\r\n" 001 WriteLine

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 17 2020 07:41 pm

Does having the labels close to quotes cause a problem?

For Example:

"\r\nThis is how I write the line.\r\n" 001 WriteLine

No.

digital man

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 17 2020 07:41 pm

No.

digital man

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Well that's how I did my whole text file and it crashed Synchronet for some reason.

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Well that's how I did my whole text file and it crashed Synchronet for some reason.

$ The Millionaire $

..."Revenge is sweet. No sugar added."...

Are you supposed to jsexec update the text.js strings when you modify the text.dat file?

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 17 2020 07:52 pm

Well that's how I did my whole text file and it crashed Synchronet for some reason.

$ The Millionaire $

..."Revenge is sweet. No sugar added."...

Are you supposed to jsexec update the text.js strings when you modify the text.dat file?

No.

digital man

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 17 2020 07:44 pm

Well that's how I did my whole text file and it crashed Synchronet for some reason.

You were already told multiple reasons why your text.dat file was crashing. You were also told it might be best to start with a fresh text.dat and make a few changes at a time so that if it crashed again, you would only have a few lines to look into.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 17 2020 19:44:51

Well that's how I did my whole text file and it crashed Synchronet for some reason.

i told you that that is not what crashed your sbbs... look closer... especially at lines you may have deleted and specifically those lines that have \ outside the quotes...

eg:

"blah blah blah" \ XXXX some description
"blah blah blah" \
"blah blah blah"

the above is all one line even though it is split onto three lines... those leading spaces are very important as are the trailing slashes outside the quotes...

at least one of your "\ 1 c" marker edits was before the slash while others were after it... i would suggest coming up with something else to mark your lines with and put it on the right of the line's description...

i would also look at that happy birthday line and at least try putting back the one line you deleted... i don't know if the actual number of lines in text.dat matters but it is possible...

i'll also remind you once again that your removing the spaces before the lines' description will cause undue headaches when comparing your text.dat with new ones to see what changed or was added/removed... you are litterally loading the shotgun and pointing it at your feet... seriously... if you have to edit, edit /only/ what is between the quotes and leave the rest of the lines alone...


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 17 2020 07:52 pm

No.

digital man

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Are you allowed to substitute the \1h and \1n to colours instead or should they be left alone?

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Mar 18 2020 06:54 pm

Are you allowed to substitute the \1h and \1n to colours instead or should they be left alone?

You can substitute or remove whatever color codes you want.

digital man

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Mar 18 2020 06:54 pm

You can substitute or remove whatever color codes you want.

digital man

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Then what should not be allowed to be removed without causing unforeseen circumstances?

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 06:20:37

Then what should not be allowed to be removed without causing unforeseen circumstances?

quotes around the strings
the '\' line continuation character outside the closing quote
leading spaces on continued lines
%s, %d and similar printf formatting codes

those are the four main ones i can think of immediately... not sure about removing lines, though... but if a continuation of a line is removed, the outside '\' on the line above must also be removed since there's no continuation...

eg:
"blah blah blah" \
"foo foo foo" \
"blerg blerg"

becomes

"blah blah blah" \
"foo foo foo"

when the blerg line is removed... note the '\' on the foo line is also removed...


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 06:20 am

You can substitute or remove whatever color codes you want.

Then what should not be allowed to be removed without causing unforeseen circumstances?

Have you read http://wiki.synchro.net/custom:text.dat ?

Any text after the terminating (ending) double-quote character is ignored when the text.dat file is parsed by Synchronet. The stock text.dat file contains helpful numbers and names (comments) after the terminating quotes, but these comments are not actually required.

"item 1 single line between quotation marks" ### desc
"item 2 multiple lines between quotation"\ ### desc
"continuation from line above"
"item 3 another single line" ### desc

You've got tunnel vision so I'm not even sure why I'm replying or anyone else for that matter. The wiki is fairly straight forward and all your previous questions were answered already. Your text.dat was even combed through and several things were pointed out to you but you have ignored everything.

If DM starts replying with "refer to msg # and msg #", would you listen then?

-altere

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The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

You can substitute or remove whatever color codes you want.

Then what should not be allowed to be removed without causing
unforeseen circumstances?

FFS - hasn't this already been answered, by multiple people, on
multiple occasions???



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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: Altere to The Millionaire on Thu Mar 19 2020 12:16:04

Have you read http://wiki.synchro.net/custom:text.dat ?

SORRY BUDDY BUT I'D RATHER SPEND MY TIME ACTUALLY *RUNNING* MY BBS THAN READING A BUNCH OF DOCUMENTATION! BACK IN THE DAY SYSOPS USED TO HELP SYSOPS AND ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS!

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 06:20 am

Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Mar 18 2020 06:54 pm

You can substitute or remove whatever color codes you want.

Then what should not be allowed to be removed without causing unforeseen circumstances?

You shouldn't re-arrange or remove the printf-specifiers (e.g. "%s") without care.

digital man

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: echicken to Altere on Thu Mar 19 2020 01:48 pm

Have you read http://wiki.synchro.net/custom:text.dat ?

SORRY BUDDY BUT I'D RATHER SPEND MY TIME ACTUALLY *RUNNING* MY BBS THAN READING A BUNCH OF DOCUMENTATION! BACK IN THE DAY SYSOPS USED TO HELP SYSOPS AND ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS!

lol! Aside from editing his configuration and other files for him, we have though, over and over and over again.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 06:20 am

You shouldn't re-arrange or remove the printf-specifiers (e.g. "%s") without care.

digital man

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What about adding colours to % specifiers that don't have a colour to them in the original file? Can that cause problems too? Some have colours and some don't but I colour anything with a % in front of it.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 05:07 pm

Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 06:20 am

You shouldn't re-arrange or remove the printf-specifiers (e.g. "%s") without care.

What about adding colours to % specifiers that don't have a colour to them in the original file? Can that cause problems too? Some have colours and some don't but I colour anything with a % in front of it.

You can add, remove, or change any "colour" you wish.

digital man

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Thu Mar 19 2020 07:07 pm

You can add, remove, or change any "colour" you wish.

https://youtu.be/bK7HJvmgFnM

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 17:07:33

You shouldn't re-arrange or remove the printf-specifiers (e.g. "%s") without care.

What about adding colours to % specifiers that don't have a colour to them in the original file?

they all have color on them already... the previous color code sets them, too... i thought you said you had done ANSI stuff before??

Can that cause problems too? Some have colours and some don't but I colour anything with a % in front of it.

see above... the previously set color applies to them... just don't split the '%' from the character it is leading...


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On 3/17/20 7:44 PM, The Millionaire wrote:

Well that's how I did my whole text file and it crashed Synchronet for some reason.

I usually don't touch the text.dat since I can change those strings via JS.

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You can add, remove, or change any "colour" you wish.

https://youtu.be/bK7HJvmgFnM

My same reaction!

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On 3/17/20 7:44 PM, The Millionaire wrote:

I usually don't touch the text.dat since I can change those strings via JS.

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Why is that? Is it easier?

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 17:07:33

they all have color on them already... the previous color code sets them, too... i thought you said you had done ANSI stuff before??

see above... the previously set color applies to them... just don't split the '%' from the character it is leading...

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Yes I have done ANSI before just never had to edit a text file like this before I got into Synchronet.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 20 2020 06:14:56


Rampage>> they all have color on them already... the previous color code sets
Rampage>> them, too... i thought you said you had done ANSI stuff before??

Yes I have done ANSI before just never had to edit a text file like this before I got into Synchronet.

so i guess you are saying that you've never done raw ANSI codes in your ANSI screens? by that i mean that you've never gone in and manually edited them to clean them up after using an ANSI editor on them, correct?

if you had, you'd understand more about what is being sent with all your code changes and you'd understand that that last color sent applies to everything following until the next color sequence... it doesn't seem like you understand that... or perhaps you're just being too detailed in what you are doing? forest and leaves kinda thing?


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 20 2020 06:14:56

Rampage>> they all have color on them already... the previous color code sets
Rampage>> them, too... i thought you said you had done ANSI stuff before??

so i guess you are saying that you've never done raw ANSI codes in your ANSI screens? by that i mean that you've never gone in and manually edited them to clean them up after using an ANSI editor on them, correct?

if you had, you'd understand more about what is being sent with all your code changes and you'd understand that that last color sent applies to everything following until the next color sequence... it doesn't seem like you understand that... or perhaps you're just being too detailed in what you are doing? forest and leaves kinda thing?

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No I didn't ever do raw ansi editing before. I am being very detailed in what
I am doing because I want my text.dat file to look nice when it's completed. But the way I do it seems to cause complications for the BBS itself for some reason and my editing should not affect it in any way since it's just a text file.

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The Millionaire wrote to Rampage <=-

Yes I have done ANSI before just never had to edit a text file
like this before I got into Synchronet.

And you still don't have to do that. My board is quite
customized, and I haven't touched the text.dat. No reason to that
I can see. Customize your menus and maybe the command shell, but
get over your obsession with text.dat.



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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 20 2020 08:16:49

No I didn't ever do raw ansi editing before. I am being very detailed
in what I am doing because I want my text.dat file to look nice when
it's completed.

there's a difference in looking nice and walt disney puking ;)

But the way I do it seems to cause complications for the BBS itself
for some reason and my editing should not affect it in any way since
it's just a text file.

it might be in a text file format but it is not "just a text file" -=B-)


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: Tracker1 to The Millionaire on Thu Mar 19 2020 10:15 pm

I usually don't touch the text.dat since I can change those strings via JS.

At what point do you use JS to change the text.dat strings though? Also it seems like that may have to run multiple times (every time a user logs in?)..

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 20 2020 08:16:49

there's a difference in looking nice and walt disney puking ;)

it might be in a text file format but it is not "just a text file" -=B-)

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It's still a text file with a dat extension. You can edit it in any text editor.

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And you still don't have to do that. My board is quite
customized, and I haven't touched the text.dat. No reason to that
I can see. Customize your menus and maybe the command shell, but
get over your obsession with text.dat.

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Don't you find some of those colours kind of dark in the text.dat?

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Fri Mar 20 2020 03:30 pm

Don't you find some of those colours kind of dark in the text.dat?

I think most of the colors in text.dat look fine..

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 05:07 pm

You can add, remove, or change any "colour" you wish.

digital man

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Why is Line 382 ProgListUnderline such a long line for?

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The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

And you still don't have to do that. My board is quite
customized, and I haven't touched the text.dat. No reason to that
I can see. Customize your menus and maybe the command shell, but
get over your obsession with text.dat.

Don't you find some of those colours kind of dark in the
text.dat?

No. Not at all. Can you tell me specifically which ones you find
"dark"?



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No. Not at all. Can you tell me specifically which ones you find
"dark"?

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I find the blue, red, magenta and green are the hardest on my eyes. The rest are fine though.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Mar 20 2020 20:01:09

Why is Line 382 ProgListUnderline such a long line for?

Because a particular character is being repeated many times. This character is being expressed as a hexadecimal number, in a string, and so it must be escaped with backslash-x each time. In this notation it takes four characters to express this one number, so that's what you see in your text editor. When Synchronet interprets that string, backslash-x-c-4 is turned into 0xC4 or 196, and that's the character code that's sent to the user's terminal. Under codepage 437, that's a long dash. A bunch of them are being strung together to make a line. A "program list underline", as it were, and as you might surmise if you looked at the label and thought about it a bit.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Mar 20 2020 08:01 pm

Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 05:07 pm

You can add, remove, or change any "colour" you wish.

digital man

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Why is Line 382 ProgListUnderline such a long line for?

Cause it looks good.

digital man

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On 3/20/2020 6:12 AM, The Millionaire wrote:

I usually don't touch the text.dat since I can change those strings via JS.

Why is that? Is it easier?

For me it is... I can make the changes from the mods in my /sbbs/mods directory and not worry about the stock version... not to mention if the
stock version changes, I still have it as a reference without messing it up.

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On 3/20/2020 7:19 AM, Rampage wrote:

so i guess you are saying that you've never done raw ANSI codes
in your ANSI screens? by that i mean that you've never gone in
and manually edited them to clean them up after using an ANSI
editor on them, correct?

It's rough getting a modern editor setup propery... for reference, if
anyone is interrested, linking to my VS Code directory settings below.
I'm using Fira Code for my editor and terminal font, which seems to work better than most options.

I load the /sbbs directory in the editor, and this sets everything to
\r\n and cp437 by default. I'm using it with the SSH-Remote plugin, but
would work locally as well.


/sbbs/.vscode/settings.json

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On 3/20/2020 12:37 PM, Nightfox wrote:

I usually don't touch the text.dat since I can change those strings
via JS.

At what point do you use JS to change the text.dat strings though?
Also it seems like that may have to run multiple times (every time
a user logs in?)..

I do the ones related to login in my login.js, same for logon, and
again in my command shell...

Also, since you can re-use a .js, you could just load the same file in
those three areas.

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On 3/20/2020 8:53 PM, The Millionaire wrote:

I find the blue, red, magenta and green are the hardest on my
eyes. The rest are fine though.

What are you using for a terminal? Most don't show old-school DOS
colors by default.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Mar 20 2020 08:01 pm

Cause it looks good.

digital man

Synchronet "Real Fact" #48:
Synchronet directory naming (i.e. ctrl, exec, data) was suggested by S. Deppe. Norco, CA WX: 51.0øF, 88.0% humidity, 0 mph SW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

It screws up in my text editor. On yours it looks real long.

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On 3/20/2020 8:53 PM, The Millionaire wrote:

What are you using for a terminal? Most don't show old-school DOS
colors by default.

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I use Termius. I use the Homebrew option and it's the closest to the BBS's
ansi colours.

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The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

Cause it looks good.

It screws up in my text editor. On yours it looks real long.

I think your "text editor" is the root of all your problems...

Why don't you quit worrying about text.dat, and actually
build/customize a working BBS instead?



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I think your "text editor" is the root of all your problems...

Why don't you quit worrying about text.dat, and actually
build/customize a working BBS instead?

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Could very well be the problem. I just wanted my text colours to look a certain way. That's why I edited the text.dat file in the first place but I guess
it's a hell of a lot easier to just the damn thing alone like you say.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 20 2020 15:29:10


Rampage>> it might be in a text file format but it is not "just a text file" -=B-)

It's still a text file with a dat extension. You can edit it in any text editor.

i know this... my point is that how it is used makes it not "just a text file"... especially if formatting changes can cause problems like you've been seeing...


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Fri Mar 20 2020 15:30:58

Don't you find some of those colours kind of dark in the text.dat?

they're supposed to be dark... not everything is supposed to be bright and bubbly... in some cases, the change from bright to dim indicates if something is active or not... like tabbing between the list and the preview panes in the new msglist module... then there's menu options where the hotkey is bright while the rest is not...


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Mar 21 2020 04:35:06

Cause it looks good.

It screws up in my text editor.

then you need a better text editor that can handle long lines without wordwrapping... when editing files like text.dat, you should turn off wordwrap anyway... wordwrap is only good for writing letters and documents... certainly not for programming stuff...

On yours it looks real long.

as it should...


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 20 2020 15:29:10

Rampage>> it might be in a text file format but it is not "just a text file" -=B-)

i know this... my point is that how it is used makes it not "just a text file"... especially if formatting changes can cause problems like you've been seeing...

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I have had other bbses that have caused problems with text issues with built in editors and overstepping the boundaries which have crashed them also. Two examples were "All American" and "CNet 64".

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Mar 21 2020 04:35:06

then you need a better text editor that can handle long lines without wordwrapping... when editing files like text.dat, you should turn off wordwrap anyway... wordwrap is only good for writing letters and documents... certainly not for programming stuff...

as it should...

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Oh then it's probably the word wrapping that's screwing it up. Never
thought of that one.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Mar 21 2020 04:35:06

then you need a better text editor that can handle long lines without wordwrapping... when editing files like text.dat, you should turn off wordwrap anyway... wordwrap is only good for writing letters and documents... certainly not for programming stuff...

as it should...

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Other than of course the built-in Synchronet text editor, what other text editors would you recommend?

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 21 2020 03:05 pm

Other than of course the built-in Synchronet text editor, what other text editors would you recommend?

On Windows, notepad++ or Visual Studio.
On Desktop-Linux, I use Geany (GUI) or vim (console).

digital man

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David St. Hubbins: I mean, it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel.
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 21 2020 03:05 pm

On Windows, notepad++ or Visual Studio.
On Desktop-Linux, I use Geany (GUI) or vim (console).

digital man

This Is Spinal Tap quote #9:
David St. Hubbins: I mean, it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel. Norco, CA WX: 65.2øF, 55.0% humidity, 4 mph N wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

Since you have an IPad DM, what would you recommend for text editors?

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Mar 21 2020 05:21 pm

Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 21 2020 03:05 pm

On Windows, notepad++ or Visual Studio.
On Desktop-Linux, I use Geany (GUI) or vim (console).

Since you have an IPad DM, what would you recommend for text editors?

I don't recommend editing system (e.g. BBS) text files with an iPad.

digital man

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #59:
SBBS = Synchronet Bulletin Board System
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Mar 21 2020 05:21 pm

I don't recommend editing system (e.g. BBS) text files with an iPad.

digital man

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #59:
SBBS = Synchronet Bulletin Board System
Norco, CA WX: 58.4øF, 70.0% humidity, 8 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

Well DM, that's the only thing I have to edit text files with atm until I get
a Win Mach.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Mar 21 2020 04:35 am

It screws up in my text editor. On yours it looks real long.

You might need a better text editor.

Nightfox

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Hooray! A great day for text.dat! Are you going to shorten these lines too, DM?

638 ChatChanLstUnderline
694 NodeLstHdr

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 21 2020 15:05:18

Other than of course the built-in Synchronet text editor, what
other text editors would you recommend?

notepad, notepad++, mcedit, vi, vim, joe, emacs, edlin, and similar simple text editors... i have no idea what's available in apple's store, though...


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Mar 21 2020 18:56:08

Well DM, that's the only thing I have to edit text files with atm
until I get a Win Mach.

what's wrong with editing it on the system you were crashing with your edits? that would be the thing to do and you were using mcedit there...


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Mar 21 2020 18:56:08

what's wrong with editing it on the system you were crashing with your edits? that would be the thing to do and you were using mcedit there...

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 21 2020 15:05:18

notepad, notepad++, mcedit, vi, vim, joe, emacs, edlin, and similar simple text editors... i have no idea what's available in apple's store, though...

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Find, Replace, Etc. is a wsyiwyg type of editor. Simple but does the job for the most part.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Mar 22 2020 07:02:29

Hooray! A great day for text.dat! Are you going to shorten these lines too, DM?

638 ChatChanLstUnderline
694 NodeLstHdr

how do you propose to shorten divider lines that are supposed to be drawn the width of the terminal???


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Mar 22 2020 07:02:29

how do you propose to shorten divider lines that are supposed to be drawn the width of the terminal???

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DM shortened line 382 this morning to a few lines instead of one.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Mar 22 2020 07:23:47


Rampage>> notepad, notepad++, mcedit, vi, vim, joe, emacs, edlin, and similar simple text editors... i have no idea what's available in apple's store, though...

Find, Replace, Etc. is a wsyiwyg type of editor. Simple but does the job for the most part.

wysiwyg is overblown... if that editor can turn off wordwrapping and act as a simple text editor, then ok...


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Since you have an IPad DM, what would you recommend for text editors?

Is there a version of notepad++ or medit for the ipad?


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Mar 22 2020 07:23:47

Rampage>> notepad, notepad++, mcedit, vi, vim, joe, emacs, edlin, and similar simple text editors... i have no idea what's available in apple's store, though...

wysiwyg is overblown... if that editor can turn off wordwrapping and act as a simple text editor, then ok...

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No option to turn off word wrapping. :-(

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Is there a version of notepad++ or medit for the ipad?

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Unfortunately not. :-(

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Mar 22 2020 12:21:38


Rampage>> wysiwyg is overblown... if that editor can turn off wordwrapping and act as a simple text editor, then ok...

No option to turn off word wrapping. :-(

then you have little choice but to find another *editor* or go back to using a real OS/machine for your edits...


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The Millionaire wrote to Rampage <=-

what's wrong with editing it on the system you were crashing with your

edits?

that would be the thing to do and you were using mcedit there...

The place I was doing it on was only temporary.

So, your BBS entry in the SBBS List is invalid and should be
removed?



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edits?

So, your BBS entry in the SBBS List is invalid and should be
removed?

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It hopefully should be removed soon.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sun Mar 22 2020 07:02 pm

So, your BBS entry in the SBBS List is invalid and should be
removed?

It hopefully should be removed soon.

I think you can go and remove it yourself if you deem it not necessary to be in the SBBS list.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sun Mar 22 2020 07:02 pm

I think you can go and remove it yourself if you deem it not necessary to be in the SBBS list.

Nightfox

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I logged onto DM's BBS and it's already been removed. I would recommend updating your BBS list.

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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Mon Mar 23 2020 03:21:55

I logged onto DM's BBS and it's already been removed.
I would recommend updating your BBS list.

that's done automatically just like updating it with new information is done automatically...


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Mon Mar 23 2020 03:21 am

I logged onto DM's BBS and it's already been removed. I would recommend updating your BBS list.

BBS list updating with sbbslist happens automatically. As BBSes poll Vertrauen for Dove-Net messages, the Dove-Net "Synchronet Data" sub is used for updating things like the SBBS BBS list (and other things as well, such as user avatars, etc.).

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Hi DM. So word wrapping in the text.dat file can corrupt Synchronet BBS?

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 24 2020 03:37 pm

Hi DM. So word wrapping in the text.dat file can corrupt Synchronet BBS?

I don't understand the question. text.dat strings can be extended (onto the next line) by putting a backslash after the closing quotes. Does that answer your question?

digital man

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 24 2020 03:37 pm

I don't understand the question. text.dat strings can be extended (onto the next line) by putting a backslash after the closing quotes. Does that answer your question?

digital man

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #19:
DOCSIS = Data Over Cable Service Interface Specification
Norco, CA WX: 59.7øF, 66.0% humidity, 8 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

Let me rephrase the question then shall I? No I'm talking about no quotes or trailing backslashes then it would corrupt the BBS then?

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 24 2020 06:06 pm

Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 24 2020 03:37 pm

I don't understand the question. text.dat strings can be extended (onto the next line) by putting a backslash after the closing quotes. Does that answer your question?

Let me rephrase the question then shall I? No I'm talking about no quotes or trailing backslashes then it would corrupt the BBS then?

Yeah, that'd be bad.

digital man

This Is Spinal Tap quote #32:
Derek Smalls: [A jog?] We don't have time for that.
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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 24 2020 06:06 pm

Yeah, that'd be bad.

digital man

This Is Spinal Tap quote #32:
Derek Smalls: [A jog?] We don't have time for that.
Norco, CA WX: 58.7øF, 65.0% humidity, 9 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

That must have been the reason for why my text.dat file was always corrupt as it was read by Synchronet BBS. I was using a lot of \1h's and some of the
lines were long stretching into the next line with no quotes and no trailing backslashes anywhere to be found.

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On 3/21/2020 4:12 PM, Digital Man wrote:

Other than of course the built-in Synchronet text editor, what other text editors would you recommend?

On Windows, notepad++ or Visual Studio.
On Desktop-Linux, I use Geany (GUI) or vim (console).

Mentioned elsewhere, I'm using Visual Studio Code (not VS) almost
everywhere, Linux, Windows, Mac... Hands down love it.

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On 3/22/2020 7:23 AM, The Millionaire wrote:

notepad, notepad++, mcedit, vi, vim, joe, emacs, edlin, and similar simple >> text editors... i have no idea what's available in apple's store, though...

Find, Replace, Etc. is a wsyiwyg type of editor. Simple but does the job for the most part.

Best to search for a "Programmer's Editor" of some type... you don't
want any kind of word-wrap or autoformat features... also, your text.dat is/should be codepage 437 iirc.

As I mentioned, you can always do your edits in a JS file, and include
that in your login/login and shell in order to adapt them as needed, and
that can live in your mods, and would leave the original in tact.

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On 3/22/2020 12:23 PM, The Millionaire wrote:

Is there a version of notepad++ or medit for the ipad?

Unfortunately not. :-(

Looks like coda or textastic may be your best bets.

I haven't used either, I don't own any iThings, and likely won't ever.

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Hi DM. Are you allowed to use punctuation after a %s, for example or must you have a colour like a \1c, preceding it?

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Mar 27 2020 05:49 pm

Hi DM. Are you allowed to use punctuation after a %s, for example or must you have a colour like a \1c, preceding it?

You can add and remove punctuation anywhere you like so long as you're not adding/removing punctuation between the '%' and the 's'.

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Hi DM. Some lines in text.dat are bypassed by js files. Why is this?

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 15:47:19

Hi DM. Some lines in text.dat are bypassed by js files. Why is this?

In some cases the author of the .js may have neglected to check whether a relevant string exists in text.dat.

It's also possible that the string from text.dat isn't quite appropriate for the purpose at hand.

If you can point out specific examples, please tell us which .js file should be using which string from text.dat, and if possible, where in the program you think this should be.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 15:47:19

In some cases the author of the .js may have neglected to check whether a relevant string exists in text.dat.

It's also possible that the string from text.dat isn't quite appropriate for the purpose at hand.

If you can point out specific examples, please tell us which .js file should be using which string from text.dat, and if possible, where in the program you think this should be.

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When I started colouring my line 545 in the text.dat file:

"\r\n\1n\1h\1m%-2d \1n\1m%-6u \1w\1h%-25.25s \1m%-25.25s"\ 545 LastFewCallersFmt
"\1n\1m%02u:%02u \1h%-8.8s \1n\1m%3d"

Nothing happened. So I found a file named logonlist.js and coloured that one as well. Then the colours changed.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 03:47 pm

Hi DM. Some lines in text.dat are bypassed by js files. Why is this?

Please provide specific examples and I'll address them.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Sat Apr 04 2020 05:23 pm

Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 15:47:19

In some cases the author of the .js may have neglected to check whether a relevant string exists in text.dat.

It's also possible that the string from text.dat isn't quite appropriate for the purpose at hand.

If you can point out specific examples, please tell us which .js file should be using which string from text.dat, and if possible, where in the program you think this should be.

When I started colouring my line 545 in the text.dat file:

"\r\n\1n\1h\1m%-2d \1n\1m%-6u \1w\1h%-25.25s \1m%-25.25s"\ 545 LastFewCallersFmt
"\1n\1m%02u:%02u \1h%-8.8s \1n\1m%3d"

Nothing happened.

Actually, it did: your data/logon.lst file will reflect any changes you made in the text.dat. That file is deprecated in favor of data/logon.jsonl (and logonlist.js), but both are still supported.

So I found a file named logonlist.js and coloured that one
as well. Then the colours changed.

The correct way to change that format line is via the [logonlist] last_few_callers_fmt setting in the ctrl/modopts.ini file.
See http://wiki.synchro.net/module:logonlist for details.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Sat Apr 04 2020 05:23 pm

Actually, it did: your data/logon.lst file will reflect any changes you made in the text.dat. That file is deprecated in favor of data/logon.jsonl (and logonlist.js), but both are still supported.

The correct way to change that format line is via the [logonlist] last_few_callers_fmt setting in the ctrl/modopts.ini file.
See http://wiki.synchro.net/module:logonlist for details.

digital man

This Is Spinal Tap quote #1:
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rain/24hrs

Text.dat is a deprecated file now? So are you removing it soon then?

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Hi DM. Some lines in text.dat are bypassed by js files. Why is
this?

Hi TM. You have an absolute *OBSESSION* with text.dat. Why is
this?



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It's my favourite file. I love colouring. :-)

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 06:31 pm

Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Sat Apr 04 2020 05:23 pm

Actually, it did: your data/logon.lst file will reflect any changes you made in the text.dat. That file is deprecated in favor of data/logon.jsonl (and logonlist.js), but both are still supported.

The correct way to change that format line is via the [logonlist] last_few_callers_fmt setting in the ctrl/modopts.ini file.
See http://wiki.synchro.net/module:logonlist for details.

Text.dat is a deprecated file now?

The text.dat file is not deprecated.

So are you removing it soon then?

No.

digital man

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 06:31 pm

The text.dat file is not deprecated.

No.

digital man

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Login.lst is the deprecated file?

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 06:47 pm

Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 06:31 pm

The text.dat file is not deprecated.

No.

Login.lst is the deprecated file?

It's called logon.lst, it's in your data directory. And yes, it has been deprecated (though still supported) in favor of logon.jsonl and the logonlist.js module that adds-to and displays it.

digital man

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 06:47 pm

It's called logon.lst, it's in your data directory. And yes, it has been deprecated (though still supported) in favor of logon.jsonl and the logonlist.js module that adds-to and displays it.

digital man

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #5:
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So many logon files. *sighs*

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 07:03 pm

Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 06:47 pm

It's called logon.lst, it's in your data directory. And yes, it has been deprecated (though still supported) in favor of logon.jsonl and the logonlist.js module that adds-to and displays it.

So many logon files. *sighs*

You prefer a different name? I don't get your point.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 06:47 pm

Login.lst is the deprecated file?

Sometimes I deprecate in the bathroom.

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That's defecate. Different word altogether.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Sat Apr 04 2020 19:00:17

Login.lst is the deprecated file?

Sometimes I deprecate in the bathroom.

That's usually where I inspect my log dumps.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sat Apr 04 2020 19:35:21

That's defecate. Different word altogether.

Okay, I'm confused now - is deprecate the defecated word here? And what is the difference between logging on and defecating on?

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sat Apr 04 2020 07:35 pm

That's defecate. Different word altogether.

That was the joke..

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Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-

Login.lst is the deprecated file?

Sometimes I deprecate in the bathroom.

Other times in the woods, I bet.



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The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-

That's defecate. Different word altogether.

Hey! Please don't swear in here!



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The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

Actually, it did: your data/logon.lst file will reflect any changes you made in the text.dat. That file is deprecated in favor of data/logon.jsonl (and logonlist.js), but both are still supported.

The correct way to change that format line is via the [logonlist] last_few_callers_fmt setting in the ctrl/modopts.ini file.
See http://wiki.synchro.net/module:logonlist for details.

Text.dat is a deprecated file now? So are you removing it soon
then?

Oh. Gawd.

Dude. The deprecated file is 'logon.lst'.

Please read more carefully. Better yet, leave text.dat alone.



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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sat Apr 04 2020 20:22:04

* sighs*

* defecates*

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Re: Text.dat question
By: echicken to The Millionaire on Sat Apr 04 2020 10:55 pm

That's defecate. Different word altogether.

Okay, I'm confused now - is deprecate the defecated word here? And what is the difference between logging on and defecating on?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ef/d3/1f/efd31f3a16ba09c7d2f16f27e22c38f8.jpg

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Nightfox wrote to echicken <=-

Okay, I'm confused now - is deprecate the defecated word here? And what is the difference between logging on and defecating on?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ef/d3/1f/efd31f3a16ba09c7d2f16f27e22c38f8.jpg

Hahahahaha, I almost didn't dare to follow that link...

But what's the Stardate on that? ;-)



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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 15:47:19

Hi DM. Some lines in text.dat are bypassed by js files. Why is this?

because it is easier to customize in baja or js files... plus you might want the text.dat default used in one place and a different one used in another... so yeah, it comes down to customizing...


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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 18:31:23

Text.dat is a deprecated file now? So are you removing it soon then?

that's not what he said... he said that logon.lst is deprecated... read it again ;)


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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sat Apr 04 2020 19:35:21

That's defecate. Different word altogether.

whoosh! <- sound of word play joke

your head


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sat Apr 04 2020 20:22:04

* sighs*

this is the sound one hears from those missing the joke(s) ;)


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Hi TM. You have an absolute *OBSESSION* with text.dat. Why is
this?

Yeah, like Lt. Gerrard with Richard Kimble. :D


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Login.lst is the deprecated file?

Sometimes I deprecate in the bathroom.

Only sometimes???


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That's defecate. Different word altogether.

Stop swearing.


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Re: Text.dat question
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sun Apr 05 2020 01:10 pm

Sometimes I deprecate in the bathroom.

Only sometimes???

Most of the time I'm not deprecating. ;)
I don't always deprecate, but when I do, I do it in the bathroom.

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Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

Hi TM. You have an absolute *OBSESSION* with text.dat. Why is
this?

Yeah, like Lt. Gerrard with Richard Kimble. :D

Haha, yes! Exactly like that! :-)



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Nightfox wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

Most of the time I'm not deprecating. ;)
I don't always deprecate, but when I do, I do it in the bathroom.

I once defenestrated in the bathroom, can I play this game too?


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Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

Yeah, like Lt. Gerrard with Richard Kimble. :D

Why do I hear people googling Richard Kimble now?


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Sometimes I deprecate in the bathroom.

Only sometimes???

Most of the time I'm not deprecating. ;)
I don't always deprecate, but when I do, I do it in the bathroom.

Now it makes sense. :)

The few times in my life that I had to deprecate in an outhouse or latrine,
it made me appreciate indoor plumbing. :)


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Yeah, like Lt. Gerrard with Richard Kimble. :D

Why do I hear people googling Richard Kimble now?

Well, there are probably many adults now who were not yet born when even
the movie came out several years ago, much less ones which have watched the original "The Fugitive" TV show.

I thought about that when I typed it, but both you and Gamgee seemed to get
it. :)


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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Tue Apr 07 2020 05:47 pm

Yeah, like Lt. Gerrard with Richard Kimble. :D

Why do I hear people googling Richard Kimble now?

Well, there are probably many adults now who were not yet born when even
the movie came out several years ago, much less ones which have watched the original "The Fugitive" TV show.

I thought about that when I typed it, but both you and Gamgee seemed to get it. :)

It's a good movie.

Fun fact, I used to use that movie's opening scene (with the train wreck) as a benchmark test of home theater A/V systems back in the early 90's.

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Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

Yeah, like Lt. Gerrard with Richard Kimble. :D

Why do I hear people googling Richard Kimble now?

Well, there are probably many adults now who were not yet born
when even the movie came out several years ago, much less ones
which have watched the original "The Fugitive" TV show.

I was alive, but very young, when the TV series aired. Don't
remember it and don't think I've ever seen it.

I thought about that when I typed it, but both you and Gamgee
seemed to get it. :)

Oh yes, I remember the movie well. Really liked it a lot.


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I thought about that when I typed it, but both you and Gamgee
seemed to get it. :)

Oh yes, I remember the movie well. Really liked it a lot.

I actually never saw the movie. I think I have seen every episode of the
TV series at least once. Back around 1994-96, it ran on A&E real early on Saturday or Sunday morning. More recently, it was a staple on MeTV for a while.


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Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

I thought about that when I typed it, but both you and Gamgee
seemed to get it. :)

Oh yes, I remember the movie well. Really liked it a lot.

I actually never saw the movie. I think I have seen every
episode of the TV series at least once. Back around 1994-96, it
ran on A&E real early on Saturday or Sunday morning. More
recently, it was a staple on MeTV for a while.

Haha, OK just the opposite of my experience, then. :)

It's really an excellent movie, you should check it out. Probably
available on Netflix/Amazon/etc...

I may look for that TV series if I get bored enough.



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Hi DM. Another question to ask about text.dat.

"\1_\1g\1h%-8.8s \1w%2d%c \1n\1g%s" 520 ChatLineFmt

In line 520,

%-8.8s = chat handle
%2d = node number
%c = ?
%s = ?

Can you explain the other two please?

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Apr 20 2020 04:23 am

Hi DM. Another question to ask about text.dat.

"\1_\1g\1h%-8.8s \1w%2d%c \1n\1g%s" 520 ChatLineFmt

In line 520,

%-8.8s = chat handle
%2d = node number
%c = ?
%s = ?

Can you explain the other two please?

%c is a single character, in this case its either a '*' or a ':'. The '*' means a node-page. The ':' is used for regular chat lines.

The last %s is the actual chat line of text the user typed.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Apr 20 2020 04:23 am

%c is a single character, in this case its either a '*' or a ':'. The '*' means a node-page. The ':' is used for regular chat lines.

The last %s is the actual chat line of text the user typed.

digital man

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #44:
JS = JavaScript
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And where would this line be in the Bbs? I tried to look for it but couldn't find it anywhere.

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Apr 20 2020 03:29 pm

Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Apr 20 2020 04:23 am

%c is a single character, in this case its either a '*' or a ':'. The '*' means a node-page. The ':' is used for regular chat lines.

The last %s is the actual chat line of text the user typed.

digital man

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #44:
JS = JavaScript
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And where would this line be in the Bbs? I tried to look for it but couldn't find it anywhere.

$ The Millionaire $

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i know it's somewhere to do with the chat section obviously just can't find where though. * sighs * :-(

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Apr 20 2020 03:29 pm

Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Apr 20 2020 04:23 am

%c is a single character, in this case its either a '*' or a ':'. The '*' means a node-page. The ':' is used for regular chat lines.

The last %s is the actual chat line of text the user typed.

And where would this line be in the Bbs? I tried to look for it but couldn't find it anywhere.

It's used in multi-node chat.

digital man

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Apr 20 2020 03:29 pm

It's used in multi-node chat.

digital man

Synchronet "Real Fact" #19:
The first Synchronet BBS (Vertrauen) went live in July of 1991 (replacing WWIV).
Norco, CA WX: 66.6øF, 58.0% humidity, 2 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

I noticed a lot of %c in the text.dat. Are they all punctuation or special characters?

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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 25 2020 01:47 pm

Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Apr 20 2020 03:29 pm

It's used in multi-node chat.

I noticed a lot of %c in the text.dat. Are they all punctuation or special characters?

No, they could be any character. It depends on the context.

digital man

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #38:
HTTPS = Secure HTTP (authenticated and encrypted HTTP over TLS)
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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 25 2020 13:47:19

I noticed a lot of %c in the text.dat. Are they all punctuation
or special characters?

the charts on this page should tell you all you need to know about those "printf format specifiers"...

http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/cstdio/printf/

in specific response to your question, the 'c' format specifier means the position is filled by a character, any character, and no more than one character... they could be symbols, numbers, or letters...


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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 25 2020 01:47 pm

No, they could be any character. It depends on the context.

digital man

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #38:
HTTPS = Secure HTTP (authenticated and encrypted HTTP over TLS)
Norco, CA WX: 89.9øF, 37.0% humidity, 7 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

But never used as a word representation though, right? For ex. %c = leave.

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