• Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional

    From The Millionaire@VERT to All on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 13:04:36
    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 13:30:43
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Feb 12 2020 01:04 pm

    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    What does that question even mean?

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #31:
    Viv Savage: Quite exciting, this computer magic!
    Norco, CA WX: 65.2øF, 35.0% humidity, 12 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 13:34:42
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Feb 12 2020 01:04 pm

    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    What kind of question is this? Synchronet has been the way it is for a long time; why would you expect it to become more like a different BBS package? I doubt Digital Man is going to change his mind on how Synchronet is implemented and make it work like a different BBS package. If you like Wildcat Professional, then use that instead..

    Nightfox

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 16:39:45
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Feb 12 2020 13:04:36

    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    Yes, feature-parity with Wildcat Professional is on the Synchronet Version 4 to-do list.

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    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
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  • From Dan Cross@VERT to The Millionaire on Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:50:13
    On 12 Feb 2020 at 01:04p, The Millionaire pondered and said...

    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    I think it depends on whether you wax up your board
    before you paddle out.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A44 2020/02/04 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Dan Cross on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 14:10:37
    On 12 Feb 2020 at 01:04p, The Millionaire pondered and said...

    I think it depends on whether you wax up your board
    before you paddle out.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A44 2020/02/04 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)


    Sorry I don't surf except for the channel waves and internet waves.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 14:36:18
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Feb 12 2020 01:04 pm

    What kind of question is this? Synchronet has been the way it is for a long time; why would you expect it to become more like a different BBS package? I doubt Digital Man is going to change his mind on how Synchronet is implemented and make it work like a different BBS package. If you like Wildcat Professional, then use that instead..

    Nightfox

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    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com


    Can't afford it. Too expensive.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Ragnarok@VERT/DOCKSUD to The Millionaire on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 19:50:54
    El 12/2/20 a las 18:04, The Millionaire escribi¢:
    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    $ The Millionaire $
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    i hope that no

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to The Millionaire on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 18:17:06
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Feb 12 2020 13:04:36


    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    god i hope not...

    but if you want the look and feel of it, you can easily do that with some bit of work... it isn't that hard...


    )\/(ark

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 16:13:53
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Feb 12 2020 02:36 pm

    package. If you like Wildcat Professional, then use that instead..

    Can't afford it. Too expensive.

    It has been a long time since I looked at Wildcat, but I imagine Synchronet offers pretty much the same general features that Wildcat offers. Also, if you want to give users a more Wildcat-like experience, Synchronet does have a Wildcat emulation shell. Though, I tend to be in favor of customizing your BBS to have a unique look & feel so that it doesn't really look like a stock BBS of any type. People might still realize what BBS software you're running, but overall I like the look & feel of my BBS to be fairly unique.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Rampage on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 16:34:29
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Rampage to The Millionaire on Wed Feb 12 2020 06:17 pm

    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    god i hope not...

    but if you want the look and feel of it, you can easily do that with some bit of work... it isn't that hard...

    Depends on where he might want the look & feel.. From the user side, Synchronet alrady has a Wildcat clone shell. But from the sysop/admin side, that would be quite a bit of work..

    Nightfox

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    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 16:44:52
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Rampage to The Millionaire on Wed Feb 12 2020 06:17 pm

    Depends on where he might want the look & feel.. From the user side, Synchronet alrady has a Wildcat clone shell. But from the sysop/admin side, that would be quite a bit of work..

    Nightfox

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    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com


    I like the Pro-Audio area better. Less frivolousness there. If you need me, that's where I am going to hideout from now on. Bye!

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From mrbrad@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 19:08:44
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    On 2/12/2020 3:30 PM, Digital Man wrote:
    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Feb 12 2020 01:04 pm

    > Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    What does that question even mean?

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #31:
    Viv Savage: Quite exciting, this computer magic!
    Norco, CA WX: 65.2�F, 35.0% humidity, 12 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs --- Synchronet 3.17c-Win32 NewsLink 1.111
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net




    Well as I understand it your Synchronet Software works with Windows 10
    and was last updated on 1/1/19.

    Has Wildcat been updated any over these years?

    If not, that is a big 'plus' for using/getting Synchronet! :)

    Brad

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 20:24:10
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Feb 12 2020 04:44 pm

    Depends on where he might want the look & feel.. From the user side,
    Synchronet alrady has a Wildcat clone shell. But from the sysop/admin
    side, that would be quite a bit of work..

    I like the Pro-Audio area better. Less frivolousness there. If you need me, that's where I am going to hideout from now on. Bye!

    Was it something I said?
    I was just explaining my thoughts on Synchronet vs. Wildcat to address your question.

    Nightfox

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    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Thursday, February 13, 2020 08:22:00
    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    A perfect example of why people get tired of your "questions".

    Seriously, this is a ridiculous, stupid question. Please stop.



    ... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Thursday, February 13, 2020 08:26:00
    Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Depends on where he might want the look & feel.. From the user side,
    Synchronet alrady has a Wildcat clone shell. But from the sysop/admin
    side, that would be quite a bit of work..

    I like the Pro-Audio area better. Less frivolousness there. If you need me, that's where I am going to hideout from now on. Bye!

    Was it something I said?
    I was just explaining my thoughts on Synchronet vs. Wildcat to
    address your question.

    Hehe. The dude is completely out in outer space. I like how he
    says he wants to avoid "frivolousness"... Hahahahahahahahaha



    ... A day without sunshine is like night.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:45:06
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Feb 12 2020 20:24:10

    Was it something I said?
    I was just explaining my thoughts on Synchronet vs. Wildcat to address your question.

    If you aren't agreeing with him or praising him, you're cyber-bullying him (and double-shame on you, because he's a sick man).

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    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Nightfox on Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:16:26
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Nightfox to Rampage on Wed Feb 12 2020 16:34:29


    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    god i hope not...

    but if you want the look and feel of it, you can easily do that with some bit of work... it isn't that hard...

    Depends on where he might want the look & feel.. From the user side, Synchronet alrady has a Wildcat clone shell. But from the sysop/admin side, that would be quite a bit of work..

    the user interface is the one that counts for the most part... the backend operator side could be shoe strings and bubble gum with some lick'n'spit here and there ;)


    )\/(ark

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to echicken on Thursday, February 13, 2020 09:27:53
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Thu Feb 13 2020 10:45 am

    If you aren't agreeing with him or praising him, you're cyber-bullying him (and double-shame on you, because he's a sick man).

    I would like to apologize profusely for my behavior in this matter. I should perhaps refrain from helping him understand topics that he has brought up.

    Nightfox

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  • From Altere@VERT/ATHEL to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 16, 2020 17:49:32
    Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Feb 12 2020 01:04 pm

    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    This seems like a rather silly question. If you want something similar, or like Wildcat, just run Wildcat.
    -altere

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to The Millionaire on Monday, February 17, 2020 12:05:55
    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    $ The Millionaire $

    Your question is so vague that one valid reply could be ... it already is, always has been ... they are both Bulletin Board Systems, so, any and all BBS softwares are similar in that regard ... LOL

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to The Millionaire on Thursday, February 20, 2020 17:40:21
    On 2/12/20 2:04 PM, The Millionaire wrote:
    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    Synchronet pretty much exceeds Wildcat in every meaningful way. If you
    want a pretty GUI custom client and admin interfaces, then you'd
    probably need to fork out mid-six figures to fund development, because
    anyone capable of doing such development is unlikely to do so without it
    being a paying job. Just my $.02 Feature wise, it's leaps and bounds
    ahead of Wildcat.

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

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    þ Synchronet þ Roughneck BBS - coming back 2/2/20
  • From The Millionaire@VERT/PARKAVE to Tracker1 on Thursday, February 20, 2020 17:43:05
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Tracker1 to The Millionaire on Thu Feb 20 2020 05:40 pm

    On 2/12/20 2:04 PM, The Millionaire wrote:
    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    Synchronet pretty much exceeds Wildcat in every meaningful way. If you
    want a pretty GUI custom client and admin interfaces, then you'd
    probably need to fork out mid-six figures to fund development, because anyone capable of doing such development is unlikely to do so without it being a paying job. Just my $.02 Feature wise, it's leaps and bounds
    ahead of Wildcat.

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

    the website is www.santronics.com and it's pretty incredible. pretty expensive software though. nice to see you back man. long time no see.

    $ The Millionaire $
    Park Avenue Place
    Surrey, B.C., Canada

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Thursday, February 20, 2020 21:37:15
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Tracker1 on Thu Feb 20 2020 05:43 pm

    the website is www.santronics.com and it's pretty incredible. pretty expensive software though. nice to see you back man. long time no see.

    What do you think makes Wildcat look 'incredible'? I haven't used any Wildcat BBSes lately, so I'm probably out of touch, but I somehow doubt it's leaps and bounds ahead of Synchronet, or much different than it used to be. I never hear any BBS sysops raving about it. It seems Synchronet and Mystic are two of the most popular BBS packages being used right now.

    Nightfox

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    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Friday, February 21, 2020 08:35:02
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Tracker1 on Thu Feb 20 2020 05:43 pm

    What do you think makes Wildcat look 'incredible'? I haven't used any Wildcat BBSes lately, so I'm probably out of touch, but I somehow doubt it's leaps and bounds ahead of Synchronet, or much different than it used to be.
    I never hear any BBS sysops raving about it. It seems Synchronet and Mystic are two of the most popular BBS packages being used right now.

    Nightfox

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    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com


    Taken from the site:

    "Wildcat! is the most successful commercial computer Bulletin Board System (BBS) software package in history - over 80,000 were sold connecting more than 30 million consumers."

    Source: www.santronics.com

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 13:12:23
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Tracker1 to The Millionaire on Thu Feb 20 2020 05:40 pm

    On 2/12/20 2:04 PM, The Millionaire wrote:
    Will one day Synchronet BBS be similar to Wildcat Professional?

    Synchronet pretty much exceeds Wildcat in every meaningful way. If you want a pretty GUI custom client and admin interfaces, then you'd
    probably need to fork out mid-six figures to fund development, because anyone capable of doing such development is unlikely to do so without it being a paying job. Just my $.02 Feature wise, it's leaps and bounds ahead of Wildcat.

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

    the website is www.santronics.com and it's pretty incredible. pretty expensive software though. nice to see you back man. long time no see.

    Having used Wildcat software 1995, and still occasionally check out a demo for updates just for shit and giggles, I can, IMHO, say Wildcat BBS sucks s%*t especially if you try to run in a VM. Synchronet is Leaps and Bounds over WC on every level .. and you can customize SBBS's web ui anyway you want ... you can even write your own web ui if you do not want to customize either the stock runemaster or echickens webv*

    though, I rarely condescend, I must make a personal observation ... you seem to be the type of person that just wants to stir the pot and raise controversy about anything other than SBBS by starting with blah balh blah vs SBBS ...

    just my 2 cents

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    þ Synchronet þ AlleyCat! BBS - http://alleycat.synchro.net:81
  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 13:17:57
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Tracker1 on Thu Feb 20 2020 05:43 pm

    What do you think makes Wildcat look 'incredible'? I haven't used any Wildcat BBSes lately, so I'm probably out of touch, but I somehow doubt it's leaps and bounds ahead of Synchronet, or much different than it used to be.
    I never hear any BBS sysops raving about it. It seems Synchronet and Mystic are two of the most popular BBS packages being used right now.

    Nightfox

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    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com


    Taken from the site:

    "Wildcat! is the most successful commercial computer Bulletin Board System (BBS) software package in history - over 80,000 were sold connecting more than 30 million consumers."

    Source: www.santronics.com

    Just because WC is the most successful COMMERCIAL BBS package does not mean it the best BBS package ...

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    þ Synchronet þ AlleyCat! BBS - http://alleycat.synchro.net:81
  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 12:06:23
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri Feb 21 2020 08:35:02


    Taken from the site:

    "Wildcat! is the most successful commercial computer Bulletin Board System (BBS) software package in history - over 80,000 were sold connecting more than 30 million consumers."

    Source: www.santronics.com

    you do know what the legal term "puffery" means, right? ;)


    )\/(ark

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    þ Synchronet þ The SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR
  • From Netsurge@VERT to Mortifis on Friday, February 21, 2020 13:35:20
    Having used Wildcat software 1995, and still occasionally check out a
    demo for updates just for shit and giggles, I can, IMHO, say Wildcat BBS sucks s%*t especially if you try to run in a VM. Synchronet is Leaps
    and Bounds over WC on every level .. and you can customize SBBS's web ui anyway you want ... you can even write your own web ui if you do not
    want to customize either the stock runemaster or echickens webv*

    Good god, pretty much every bbs software worked in in the past 20 years is leaps and bounds better than Wildcat.

    though, I rarely condescend, I must make a personal observation ... you seem to be the type of person that just wants to stir the pot and raise controversy about anything other than SBBS by starting with blah balh
    blah vs SBBS ...

    Nail on the head.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Netsurge@VERT to Mortifis on Friday, February 21, 2020 13:36:08
    Just because WC is the most successful COMMERCIAL BBS package does not mean it the best BBS package ...

    It is also a fact posted on the Internet. The Millionaire is an expert at Internet research.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Netsurge@VERT to Rampage on Friday, February 21, 2020 13:37:28
    you do know what the legal term "puffery" means, right? ;)

    He read the dictionary from cover to cover.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Mortifis on Friday, February 21, 2020 11:24:22
    Having used Wildcat software 1995, and still occasionally check out a demo for updates just for shit and giggles, I can, IMHO, say Wildcat BBS sucks s%*t especially if you try to run in a VM. Synchronet is Leaps and Bounds over WC on every level .. and you can customize SBBS's web ui anyway you want ... you can even write your own web ui if you do not want to customize either the stock runemaster or echickens webv*

    though, I rarely condescend, I must make a personal observation ... you seem to be the type of person that just wants to stir the pot and raise controversy about anything other than SBBS by starting with blah balh blah vs SBBS ...

    just my 2 cents

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ AlleyCat! BBS - http://alleycat.synchro.net:81


    I forgot. Everyone here is so perfect but me right? Do you even know what 0dB @ 250nW means?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Netsurge@VERT to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 14:46:58
    I forgot. Everyone here is so perfect but me right? Do you even know
    what 0dB @ 250nW means?

    What does that have to do with the price of potatoes in PEI?

    PS, It is CLOSE to what the proper standard is for level reference which is
    0db @ 200 nW/m

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Netsurge on Friday, February 21, 2020 12:19:30
    What does that have to do with the price of potatoes in PEI?

    PS, It is CLOSE to what the proper standard is for level reference which is 0db @ 200 nW/m

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)


    What do you use this measurement for?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Netsurge@VERT to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 15:26:26
    What do you use this measurement for?

    I'm really not biting, especially someone like you.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Netsurge on Friday, February 21, 2020 12:35:53
    I'm really not biting, especially someone like you.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)


    Well I stumped ya then because I can answer it.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Netsurge@VERT to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 15:38:22
    Well I stumped ya then because I can answer it.

    Whatever makes you feel good about yourself.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT/PARKAVE to Netsurge on Friday, February 21, 2020 12:04:53
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Netsurge to Mortifis on Fri Feb 21 2020 01:35 pm

    Having used Wildcat software 1995, and still occasionally check out a demo for updates just for shit and giggles, I can, IMHO, say Wildcat BBS sucks s%*t especially if you try to run in a VM. Synchronet is Leaps
    and Bounds over WC on every level .. and you can customize SBBS's web ui anyway you want ... you can even write your own web ui if you do not want to customize either the stock runemaster or echickens webv*

    Good god, pretty much every bbs software worked in in the past 20 years is leaps and bounds better than Wildcat.

    though, I rarely condescend, I must make a personal observation ... you seem to be the type of person that just wants to stir the pot and raise controversy about anything other than SBBS by starting with blah balh blah vs SBBS ...

    Nail on the head.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    nail on the coffin.

    $ The Millionaire $
    Park Avenue Place
    Surrey, B.C., Canada

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Park Avenue Place - Surrey, B.C., Canada
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 13:00:05
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri Feb 21 2020 08:35 am

    What do you think makes Wildcat look 'incredible'? I haven't used any

    Taken from the site:

    "Wildcat! is the most successful commercial computer Bulletin Board System (BBS) software package in history - over 80,000 were sold connecting more than 30 million consumers."

    That sounds like marketing hype.. They can say what they want to make their software sound great. It sounds like they're counting total sales throughout Wildcat's history, which probably includes their 1980s and 1990s sales up until now. It sounds like they did sell a lot, but other packages did too. I remember other BBS packages being fairly popular too. RemoteAccess, Wildcat, and MajorBBS all seemed fairly popular in my area in the 90s, but others were also plenty popular, such as Spitfire, Maximus, Searchlight, WWIV, and others.

    I think Synchroent is a great package though. I've stuck with Synchronet since 2007 and have been fairly happy with it. I am curious to see what Mystic or others offer, but I don't really feel a pressing need to switch to another BBS package.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Altere@VERT/ATHEL to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 13:31:11
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri Feb 21 2020 08:35 am

    What do you think makes Wildcat look 'incredible'? I haven't used any Wildcat BBSes lately, so I'm probably out of touch, but I somehow doubt it's leaps and bounds ahead of Synchronet, or much different than it used to be.
    I never hear any BBS sysops raving about it. It seems Synchronet and Mystic are two of the most popular BBS packages being used right now.

    Taken from the site:

    "Wildcat! is the most successful commercial computer Bulletin Board System (BBS) software package in history - over 80,000 were sold connecting more than 30 million consumers."

    Source: www.santronics.com

    I would hype my product up on my website also to boost sales, doesn't make it the better BBS package though.


    -altere

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Athelstan BBS þ athelstan.org þ telnet:23 | ssh:2222
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Netsurge on Friday, February 21, 2020 13:14:54
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Netsurge to Rampage on Fri Feb 21 2020 01:37 pm

    you do know what the legal term "puffery" means, right? ;)

    He read the dictionary from cover to cover.

    "I used to think the dictionary was one long poem about everything." - Steven Wright

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 15:54:37
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Netsurge on Fri Feb 21 2020 12:19:30


    PS, It is CLOSE to what the proper standard is for level reference which is 0db @ 200 nW/m

    What do you use this measurement for?

    determining if a message is on topic or not??? ;)


    )\/(ark

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR
  • From Dan Cross@VERT to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:11:23
    On 21 Feb 2020 at 12:35p, The Millionaire pondered and said...

    I'm really not biting, especially someone like you.

    Well I stumped ya then because I can answer it.

    You didn't even know what the correct reference level was.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 17:35:58
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Mortifis on Fri Feb 21 2020 11:24:22

    I forgot. Everyone here is so perfect but me right? Do you even know what 0dB @
    250nW means?

    Would you just fuck off already? You're the fucking worst. Fucking hell.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From hdt@VERT/WKDGRN to Nightfox on Saturday, February 22, 2020 10:18:00
    What do you think makes Wildcat look 'incredible'? I haven't used any Wildcat B BSes lately, so I'm probably out of touch, but I somehow doubt it's leaps and bo unds ahead of Synchronet, or much different than it
    used to be. I never hear an y BBS sysops ra

    Nightfox

    There is nothing 'incredible' about Wildcat I have a copy and updated to version 8. From a BBS side nothing has changed since version 5 when they purchased Wildcat from Mustang software. Synchronet is better and making Synchronet anything like Wildcat is a step backwards.

    hdt
  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 19:26:59
    Having used Wildcat software 1995, and still occasionally check out a demo for updates just for shit and giggles, I can, IMHO, say Wildcat BBS sucks s%*t especially if you try to run in a VM. Synchronet is Leaps and Bounds over WC on every level .. and you can customize SBBS's web ui anyway you want ... you can even write your own web ui if you do not want to customize either the stock runemaster or echickens webv*

    though, I rarely condescend, I must make a personal observation ... you seem to be the type of person that just wants to stir the pot and raise controversy about anything other than SBBS by starting with blah balh blah vs SBBS ...

    just my 2 cents

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ AlleyCat! BBS - http://alleycat.synchro.net:81


    I forgot. Everyone here is so perfect but me right? Do you even know what 0dB @ 250nW means?

    ... you play an electric guitar without an amp?

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ AlleyCat! BBS - http://alleycat.synchro.net:81
  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 19:32:42
    I'm really not biting, especially someone like you.

    Well I stumped ya then because I can answer it.


    Like I said, you stir the pot with non-sense, not sure why you do, but, since you like wildcat so much, go sign up with santronics and flood their their forums with it.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ AlleyCat! BBS - http://alleycat.synchro.net:81
  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 19:39:29
    I forgot. Everyone here is so perfect but me right? Do you even know what 0dB @ 250nW means?

    This is off topic and in the wrong area ... your question should be in either Pro-Audio, Hardware Software Help or perhaps Debate

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ AlleyCat! BBS - http://alleycat.synchro.net:81
  • From The Millionaire@VERT/PARKAVE to Dan Cross on Friday, February 21, 2020 15:17:21
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Dan Cross to The Millionaire on Sat Feb 22 2020 11:11 am

    On 21 Feb 2020 at 12:35p, The Millionaire pondered and said...

    I'm really not biting, especially someone like you.

    Well I stumped ya then because I can answer it.

    You didn't even know what the correct reference level was.

    my instructor taught us that and he was a multi-grammy award engineer/producer. that was back in 1984. we used ampex 456 24 trk 2" tape then on a Studer A800.

    $ The Millionaire $
    Park Avenue Place
    Surrey, B.C., Canada

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Park Avenue Place - Surrey, B.C., Canada
  • From Dan Cross@VERT to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 15:55:57
    On 21 Feb 2020 at 03:17p, The Millionaire pondered and said...

    my instructor taught us that and he was a multi-grammy award engineer/producer. that was back in 1984. we used ampex 456 24 trk 2"
    tape then on a Studer A800.

    Err, that's nice?. I bet he'd be disappointed you couldn't
    even keep track of proper Dolby reference level, but I guess
    36 years is a long time.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to hdt on Friday, February 21, 2020 19:23:34
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: hdt to Nightfox on Sat Feb 22 2020 10:18 am

    There is nothing 'incredible' about Wildcat I have a copy and updated to version 8. From a BBS side nothing has changed since version 5 when they purchased Wildcat from Mustang software. Synchronet is better and making Synchronet anything like Wildcat is a step backwards.

    Yeah, I didn't think there was anything Wildcat could do that Synchronet couldn't. Though, I think I've heard Wildcat has its own scripting language or its own door/module support, similar to how Synchronet has Baja & JavaScript (and I think Mystic uses Python)?

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mortifis on Friday, February 21, 2020 19:30:39
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Mortifis to The Millionaire on Fri Feb 21 2020 07:26 pm

    ... you play an electric guitar without an amp?

    Some people actually do like to play an electric guitar unplugged sometimes. I've heard of people playing them that way to get an idea of how they sound that way, since the wood & things that the body is made of can affect how the strings vibrate, which in turn affects the sound of the guitar even when plugged in.

    Also, hollow-body electric guitars tend to sound better unplugged than solid-body electric guitars, due to how the sound resonates inside the guitar.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Zazz@VERT/PBSYNC to Mortifis on Friday, February 21, 2020 16:07:02
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Mortifis to The Millionaire on Fri Feb 21 2020 13:12:23

    Having used Wildcat software 1995, and still occasionally check out a demo for updates just for shit and giggles, I can, IMHO, say Wildcat BBS sucks s%*t especially if you try to run in a VM. Synchronet is Leaps and Bounds over WC on every level .. and you can customize SBBS's web ui anyway you want ... you can even write your own web ui if you do not want to customize either the stock runemaster or echickens webv*

    Only comment I have is that you can run wildcat in a VM. I do and it works fine. Web customization for WinServer is limited only by your skills and imagination.

    Synchronet is stronger, as I run both I am partial to both.

    Ruben Figueroa
    aka Zazz
    PBSync Prison BBS
    [1:124/5014.4]

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ PBSync Prison BBS - pbmystic.rdfig.net:2424
  • From mrbrad@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Friday, February 21, 2020 21:53:45
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    On 2/22/2020 4:18 AM, hdt wrote:
    To: Nightfox
    Ni> What do you think makes Wildcat look 'incredible'? I haven't used any
    Ni> Wildcat B BSes lately, so I'm probably out of touch, but I somehow doubt
    Ni> it's leaps and bo unds ahead of Synchronet, or much different than it
    Ni> used to be. I never hear an y BBS sysops ra
    Ni>
    Ni> Nightfox

    There is nothing 'incredible' about Wildcat I have a copy and updated to version 8. From a BBS side nothing has changed since version 5 when they purchased Wildcat from Mustang software. Synchronet is better and making Synchronet anything like Wildcat is a step backwards.

    hdt
    --- Synchronet 3.17c-Win32 NewsLink 1.111
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net



    So when was the last update for Wildcat? Assuming there are any? Vs
    Synchronet update that was last done 1/1/19?

    brad

    --- Synchronet 3.17c-Win32 NewsLink 1.111
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT/PARKAVE to echicken on Friday, February 21, 2020 18:11:21
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: echicken to The Millionaire on Fri Feb 21 2020 05:35 pm

    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Mortifis on Fri Feb 21 2020 11:24:22

    I forgot. Everyone here is so perfect but me right? Do you even know what 0dB @
    250nW means?

    Would you just fuck off already? You're the fucking worst. Fucking hell.

    such profane language.i dont think DM really likes your behaviour on this network. other people have told me the same thimg as well.

    $ The Millionaire $
    Park Avenue Place
    Surrey, B.C., Canada

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Park Avenue Place - Surrey, B.C., Canada
  • From The Millionaire@VERT/PARKAVE to Mortifis on Friday, February 21, 2020 18:12:50
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Mortifis to The Millionaire on Fri Feb 21 2020 07:39 pm

    I forgot. Everyone here is so perfect but me right? Do you even know what 0dB @ 250nW means?

    This is off topic and in the wrong area ... your question should be in either Pro-Audio, Hardware Software Help or perhaps Debate


    he got me angry so i flung it right back at him.

    $ The Millionaire $
    Park Avenue Place
    Surrey, B.C., Canada

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Park Avenue Place - Surrey, B.C., Canada
  • From Netsurge@VERT to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 23:27:56
    my instructor taught us that and he was a multi-grammy award engineer/producer. that was back in 1984. we used ampex 456 24 trk 2"
    tape then on a Studer A800.

    And yet according to dolby, the correct reference level is 200 not 250. I'd
    get my money back if I was you.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Netsurge@VERT to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 23:30:22
    such profane language.i dont think DM really likes your behaviour on
    this networ k. other people have told me the same thimg as well.

    Funny, other people (a whole shit load of them) have told you as well, but do you listen?

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Hung Tran@VERT to Nightfox on Saturday, February 22, 2020 15:41:14
    Yeah, I didn't think there was anything Wildcat could do that Synchronet couldn't. Though, I think I've heard Wildcat has its own scripting language or its own door/module support, similar to how Synchronet has Baja & JavaScript (and I think Mystic uses Python)?


    Wildcat has wcBasic which cost from $99 to $400 you can create addons for Synchronet and Mystic for free. What else I hate is I need to get Platinum Xpress and NetSerial to get FTN working and only to hubs that runs NetSerial. At least both Synchronet and Mystic both as a mailer and tosser built in and can connect to hubs more FTN hubs. The only good thing Wildcat has is QWK network support.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Wicked Garden BBS - wgbbs.fsxnet.nz (3:633/414)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 00:15:31
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Fri Feb 21 2020 18:11:21

    such profane language.i dont think DM really likes your behaviour on this network. other people have
    told me the same thimg as well.

    You can just say that you don't like it instead of telling me what you think DM thinks.

    We all walk the line between "don't be offensive" and "don't be too easily offended". How about I just swear once in a while, and you just suck it up a bit. If you and "other people" feel it's getting out of hand, I'll bow to consensus and tone it down.

    Funny that swearing is a no-no, yet posting garbage, throwing petty fits when someone disagrees with you, flouting all known rules of logic, then seeking excuse by age and infirmity are totally acceptable behaviours in your book.

    I wish you all the best, honestly - but I also wish you'd just ... try a bit harder?

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Zazz on Friday, February 21, 2020 23:01:18
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Zazz to Mortifis on Fri Feb 21 2020 04:07 pm

    Only comment I have is that you can run wildcat in a VM. I do and it works fine. Web customization for WinServer is limited only by your skills and imagination.

    Synchronet is stronger, as I run both I am partial to both.

    you cant be partial to both.
    wildcrap is behind and owned by someone who can't program.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Hung Tran on Friday, February 21, 2020 21:32:23
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Hung Tran to Nightfox on Sat Feb 22 2020 03:41 pm

    Wildcat has wcBasic which cost from $99 to $400 you can create addons for Synchronet and Mystic for free.

    So it does have its own language for online doors/modules. I didn't know you had to pay extra to be able to write your own Wildcat modules..

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 22:27:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Mortifis <=-

    I forgot. Everyone here is so perfect but me right? Do you even
    know what 0dB @ 250nW means?

    You really are a fucking idiot.

    Sorry, not sorry. Go away please.



    ... Post may contain information unsuitable for overly sensitive persons.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 00:41:58
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Mortifis on Fri Feb 21 2020 18:12:50

    he got me angry so i flung it right back at him.

    "He" is the same person you were replying to here. Discourteous of you to forget that.

    I get why you keep bringing up these studio recording tidbits. You want to show that you're not completely stupid, there are things that you know that maybe we don't. That's great, but nobody was questioning your ability to calibrate recording equipment or measure gain.

    The thing is - and I've taken the time to look back on this thread just so as not to talk out of my bum-bum - he didn't say that you were stupid, didn't say that you don't know anything about anything, didn't actually insult your intelligence in any way. All he said was that you seem to want to stir the pot.

    Your response was a total non sequitur. The only thing you flung back at him was an admission that you can't defend or expand upon your original comment. Be better.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Netsurge on Saturday, February 22, 2020 00:44:48
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Netsurge to The Millionaire on Fri Feb 21 2020 23:27:56

    And yet according to dolby, the correct reference level is 200 not 250. I'd
    get my money back if I was you.

    I'd bet real money that Vancouver Upstairs Recording School has long since gone out of business, and the creditors won't be issuing any refunds.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Gamgee on Saturday, February 22, 2020 00:50:40
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Fri Feb 21 2020 22:27:00

    You really are a fucking idiot.

    Watch your language. DM doesn't like it, and other people have told me they don't like you either. I bet you can't even decibel.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to mrbrad on Friday, February 21, 2020 21:38:55
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: mrbrad to alt.bbs.synchronet on Fri Feb 21 2020 09:53 pm

    So when was the last update for Wildcat? Assuming there are any? Vs Synchronet update that was last done 1/1/19?

    Aside from the official release of Synchronet, there are daily builds of Synchronet that incorporate Digital Man's changes (he actively commits changes fairly often). The daily builds are considered 'beta' and are not thoroughly tested, but most of the time they seem to be fairly stable.

    I'm currently running a Synchronet build from January 23rd; I guess I haven't updated my binaries since then.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 21:41:32
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Fri Feb 21 2020 06:11 pm

    Would you just fuck off already? You're the fucking worst. Fucking
    hell.

    such profane language.i dont think DM really likes your behaviour on this network. other people have told me the same thimg as well.

    I haven't seen Digital Man comment on profane language. I think that's up to him if he's opposed to an occasional swear word, but I haven't seen him complain about it. I don't think I'd want to speak on anyone's behalf. Who else has told you they don't like seeing this behavior?

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Friday, February 21, 2020 21:42:03
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Mortifis on Fri Feb 21 2020 06:12 pm

    I forgot. Everyone here is so perfect but me right? Do you even know
    what 0dB @ 250nW means?

    This is off topic and in the wrong area ... your question should be in
    either Pro-Audio, Hardware Software Help or perhaps Debate

    he got me angry so i flung it right back at him.

    I think you brought up something totally irrelevant to the discussion.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Netsurge@VERT to echicken on Saturday, February 22, 2020 01:11:14
    I'd bet real money that Vancouver Upstairs Recording School has long
    since gone out of business, and the creditors won't be issuing any refunds.

    That's probably too bad, he would have a legitimate case.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Nightfox on Saturday, February 22, 2020 01:48:14
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Fri Feb 21 2020 21:41:32

    I haven't seen Digital Man comment on profane language.

    I have, and I know he's not a fan of it. I also know that he's a reasonable guy, not overly sensitive, and not given to censorship. So I keep all of that in mind when I post.

    For what it's worth:

    http://wiki.synchro.net/network:dove-net#rules

    There are rules, they are loose, and if I'm in violation of points 1 and 2, the other guy is just as much going against points 1, 3, and 7. Big deal. BBS life goes on.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Hung Tran on Saturday, February 22, 2020 19:05:00
    On 02-22-20 15:41, Hung Tran wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Wildcat has wcBasic which cost from $99 to $400 you can create addons
    for Synchronet and Mystic for free. What else I hate is I need to get Platinum Xpress and NetSerial to get FTN working and only to hubs that runs NetSerial. At least both Synchronet and Mystic both as a mailer
    and tosser built in and can connect to hubs more FTN hubs. The only
    good thing Wildcat has is QWK network support.

    And I'm sure Synchronet's QWK network support is better. DM has added some nifty QWK networking features, and even better, he's documented them, so other BBS developers can incorporate them into their products.


    ... If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat?
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  • From James Coyle@VERT to Hung Tran on Saturday, February 22, 2020 16:31:23
    tosser built in and can connect to hubs more FTN hubs. The only good
    thing Wildcat has is QWK network support.

    Both Mystic and Synchronet have those too. I can promise without even
    looking that Synchronet's QWK networking is better than Wildcats!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (1:129/215)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT/PARKAVE to mrbrad on Saturday, February 22, 2020 04:21:50
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: mrbrad to alt.bbs.synchronet on Fri Feb 21 2020 09:53 pm

    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    On 2/22/2020 4:18 AM, hdt wrote:
    To: Nightfox
    Ni> What do you think makes Wildcat look 'incredible'? I haven't used any
    Ni> Wildcat B BSes lately, so I'm probably out of touch, but I somehow doubt
    Ni> it's leaps and bo unds ahead of Synchronet, or much different than it
    Ni> used to be. I never hear an y BBS sysops ra
    Ni>
    Ni> Nightfox

    There is nothing 'incredible' about Wildcat I have a copy and updated to version 8. From a BBS side nothing has changed since version 5 when they purchased Wildcat from Mustang software. Synchronet is better and making Synchronet anything like Wildcat is a step backwards.

    hdt
    --- Synchronet 3.17c-Win32 NewsLink 1.111
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net



    So when was the last update for Wildcat? Assuming there are any? Vs Synchronet update that was last done 1/1/19?

    brad

    for wildcat professional it was 7/19.

    $ The Millionaire $
    Park Avenue Place
    Surrey, B.C., Canada

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to echicken on Saturday, February 22, 2020 07:15:00
    echicken wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Fri Feb 21 2020 22:27:00

    You really are a fucking idiot.

    Watch your language. DM doesn't like it, and other people have
    told me they don't like you either. I bet you can't even decibel.

    Well as long as you're telling me (in the third person) that
    somebody else doesn't like it (from what you've heard), and
    multiple other folks have also heard/said that, I guess it must be
    true. And while I admit to not being able to decibel, I did see
    the Liberty Bell in Philly once. So there. And that was in the
    80's so it's even more relevant. Pfffffftttttt.

    ;-)



    ... Press any key to continue or any other key to quit
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 08:54:42
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Fri Feb 21 2020 18:11:21


    I forgot. Everyone here is so perfect but me right? Do you even know what 0dB @
    250nW means?

    Would you just fuck off already? You're the fucking worst. Fucking hell.

    such profane language.

    there's nothing profane about the language used...

    i dont think DM really likes your behaviour on this network.

    don't think so much... it might hurt...

    other people have told me the same thimg as well.

    ummhummm...


    )\/(ark

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 08:56:19
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Mortifis on Fri Feb 21 2020 18:12:50


    I forgot. Everyone here is so perfect but me right? Do you even
    know what 0dB @ 250nW means?

    This is off topic and in the wrong area ... your question should
    be in either Pro-Audio, Hardware Software Help or perhaps Debate

    he got me angry so i flung it right back at him.

    so do it in the proper place, then ;)


    )\/(ark

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    þ Synchronet þ The SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Gamgee on Saturday, February 22, 2020 12:33:21
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Gamgee to echicken on Sat Feb 22 2020 07:15:00

    true. And while I admit to not being able to decibel, I did see
    the Liberty Bell in Philly once. So there. And that was in the

    Technically you only needed to see one tenth of it to qualify.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From Digital Man@VERT to echicken on Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:49:28
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Sat Feb 22 2020 01:48 am

    http://wiki.synchro.net/network:dove-net#rules

    There are rules, they are loose, and if I'm in violation of points 1 and 2, the other guy is just as much going against points 1, 3, and 7. Big deal. BBS life goes on.

    "Excessive" is subjective though. And this subject (me) doesn't think you've done either of those things (numbers 1 or 2) excessively. You're only human, after all.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #79:
    UDP = User Datagram Protocol
    Norco, CA WX: 57.9øF, 64.0% humidity, 5 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    ---
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Saturday, February 22, 2020 14:47:31
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Sat Feb 22 2020 01:48 am

    "Excessive" is subjective though. And this subject (me) doesn't think you've done either of those things (numbers 1 or 2) excessively. You're only human, after all.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #79:
    UDP = User Datagram Protocol
    Norco, CA WX: 57.9øF, 64.0% humidity, 5 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    I never swear in my messages DM, unless I am told I can. I just censor my words so I don't offend anyone here.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Altere@VERT/ATHEL to mrbrad on Saturday, February 22, 2020 17:08:37
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: mrbrad to alt.bbs.synchronet on Fri Feb 21 2020 09:53 pm

    There is nothing 'incredible' about Wildcat I have a copy and updated to version 8. From a BBS side nothing has changed since version 5 when they purchased Wildcat from Mustang software. Synchronet is better and making Synchronet anything like Wildcat is a step backwards.

    So when was the last update for Wildcat? Assuming there are any? Vs Synchronet update that was last done 1/1/19?

    http://www.winserver.com/public/aup/default.wct

    Appears 2012 was when any major development was going on, there has been some as recent as of July and August of 2019, but looks like fixes, a few additions, but I didn't see anything Synchronet couldn't do. I tried several BBS's back in the mid/late 90s before going with Synchronet, haven't looked back since.


    -altere

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Athelstan BBS þ athelstan.org þ telnet:23 | ssh:2222
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Netsurge on Saturday, February 22, 2020 15:29:40
    And yet according to dolby, the correct reference level is 200 not 250. I'd get my money back if I was you.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)


    Then read this then:

    https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/mrl-tape-dumb-question.56973/

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to echicken on Saturday, February 22, 2020 15:40:38
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Netsurge to The Millionaire on Fri Feb 21 2020 23:27:56

    I'd bet real money that Vancouver Upstairs Recording School has long since gone out of business, and the creditors won't be issuing any refunds.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com


    I didn't go to that school. I went to a private trade accredited school.

    $ The Millionaire $

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    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Saturday, February 22, 2020 15:49:33
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Sat Feb 22 2020 01:48 am

    "Excessive" is subjective though. And this subject (me) doesn't think you've done either of those things (numbers 1 or 2) excessively. You're only human, after all.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #79:
    UDP = User Datagram Protocol
    Norco, CA WX: 57.9øF, 64.0% humidity, 5 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    Swearing is not human or an excuse, DM. It's a lack of respect and insolent towards others that are here for civilized conversation. You can still talk without using profane words in a message. I do it all the time myself.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Dan Cross@VERT to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:51:29
    On 22 Feb 2020 at 03:49p, The Millionaire pondered and said...

    Swearing is not human or an excuse, DM. It's a lack of respect and insolent towards others that are here for civilized conversation. You
    can still talk without using profane words in a message. I do it all the time myself.

    I spent much of my adult life in the service of the US
    Marine Corps. If I learned anything when I became a
    Marine, it's that what you just said is some bullshit.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Dan Cross on Saturday, February 22, 2020 15:59:15
    On 22 Feb 2020 at 03:49p, The Millionaire pondered and said...

    I spent much of my adult life in the service of the US
    Marine Corps. If I learned anything when I became a
    Marine, it's that what you just said is some bullshit.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)


    You know you talk all tough sitting behind your little computer screen.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Netsurge@VERT to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 19:09:32
    You know you talk all tough sitting behind your little computer screen.

    I bet his computer screen is bigger than yours.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 16:11:23
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Feb 22 2020 03:49 pm


    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Sat Feb 22 2020 01:48 am

    "Excessive" is subjective though. And this subject (me) doesn't think you've done either of those things (numbers 1 or 2) excessively. You're only human, after all.

    Swearing is not human or an excuse, DM. It's a lack of respect and insolent towards others that are here for civilized conversation. You can still talk without using profane words in a message.

    The "only human" reference was a joke in regards to "doing numbers 1 and 2". I guess nobody got it.

    I do it all the time myself.

    I don't doubt that. :-)


    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #60:
    SCFG = Synchronet Configuration Utility
    Norco, CA WX: 56.3øF, 70.0% humidity, 3 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Netsurge on Saturday, February 22, 2020 16:11:56
    I bet his computer screen is bigger than yours.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)


    At least I like compacticity and portability.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Saturday, February 22, 2020 16:13:54
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Feb 22 2020 03:49 pm

    The "only human" reference was a joke in regards to "doing numbers 1 and 2". I guess nobody got it.

    I don't doubt that. :-)

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #60:
    SCFG = Synchronet Configuration Utility
    Norco, CA WX: 56.3øF, 70.0% humidity, 3 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    Thanks DM. :-)

    $ The Millionaire $

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Dan Cross@VERT to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 23, 2020 14:04:39
    On 22 Feb 2020 at 03:59p, The Millionaire pondered and said...

    You know you talk all tough sitting behind your little computer screen.

    LOL. Okay, Internet Tough Guy. Pretty sure I didn't see
    you in Afghanistan. I guess you were too busy reading the
    dictionary?

    But don't worry; I've been out a long time now. I'm mostly
    a paunchy dad with bad knees and lots of weird aches and pains.

    I just meant that your take on "swearing" is bullshit.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Dan Cross on Saturday, February 22, 2020 18:33:22
    On 22 Feb 2020 at 03:59p, The Millionaire pondered and said...

    LOL. Okay, Internet Tough Guy. Pretty sure I didn't see
    you in Afghanistan. I guess you were too busy reading the
    dictionary?

    But don't worry; I've been out a long time now. I'm mostly
    a paunchy dad with bad knees and lots of weird aches and pains.

    I just meant that your take on "swearing" is bullshit.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)


    People can talk without swearing. I do it, DM does it, NF does it. Some people find it to be offensive and insulting especially when it's directed at
    someone who's a little more sensitive.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Dan Cross@VERT to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 23, 2020 15:41:55
    On 22 Feb 2020 at 06:33p, The Millionaire pondered and said...

    People can talk without swearing. I do it, DM does it, NF does it. Some people find it to be offensive and insulting especially when it's
    directed at someone who's a little more sensitive.

    Harden up, butterfly. Maybe you shouldn't try and
    tone-police others.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Netsurge@VERT to Dan Cross on Saturday, February 22, 2020 22:18:04
    Harden up, butterfly. Maybe you shouldn't try and
    tone-police others.

    Take it from the rest of us, he is a lost cause.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 19:18:48
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Feb 22 2020 03:49 pm

    Swearing is not human or an excuse, DM. It's a lack of respect and insolent towards others that are here for civilized conversation. You can still talk without using profane words in a message. I do it all the time myself.

    There are people who see it that way, and there are others who don't really feel offended by a few swear words.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 19:19:17
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Dan Cross on Sat Feb 22 2020 03:59 pm

    You know you talk all tough sitting behind your little computer screen.

    So do you..

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 19:22:19
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Dan Cross on Sat Feb 22 2020 06:33 pm

    People can talk without swearing. I do it, DM does it, NF does it. Some people find it to be offensive and insulting especially when it's directed at someone who's a little more sensitive.

    I'm not in the habit of it, but I'm not offended by a few swear words here and there.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 20:21:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

    "Excessive" is subjective though. And this subject (me) doesn't think you've done either of those things (numbers 1 or 2) excessively. You're only human, after all.

    I never swear in my messages DM, unless I am told I can.

    You can.

    I just censor my words so I don't offend anyone here.

    Do you realize that it is entirely possible to offend someone
    without ever once using profanity?



    ... At the end of the day, it gets dark.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Gamgee on Saturday, February 22, 2020 19:52:32
    You can.

    Do you realize that it is entirely possible to offend someone
    without ever once using profanity?

    ... At the end of the day, it gets dark.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL


    Yes but if everyone just got along with everyone here, there would be no offending to worry about.

    $ The Millionaire $

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    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Dan Cross@VERT to Netsurge on Sunday, February 23, 2020 16:53:05
    On 22 Feb 2020 at 10:18p, Netsurge pondered and said...

    Harden up, butterfly. Maybe you shouldn't try and
    tone-police others.

    Take it from the rest of us, he is a lost cause.

    Here's a related story.

    After I got off of active duty the first time, I
    spent a few years drilling with a USMC reserve unit
    out of Brooklyn. At the time, there was an older
    Gunny (that is, Gunnery Sergeant - E7 in the Marine
    Corps) who we called the "haircut gunny" because he
    was really big on proper haircuts. Now, Marines are
    pretty particular about haircuts and appearance in
    general (though we used to joke in the barracks that
    the difference between a good haircut and a bad
    haircut was one week...), but this guy took it to
    11. Bear in mind we're all New Yorkers, so kinda
    assholes to begin with, but this guy would get all
    up in our shit saying stuff like, "If you come in
    here with a messed up haircut, I'm gonna shave your
    fuckin' head!"

    So the regs say you have to have a haircut where
    your hair is no longer than 3 inches long, and the
    sides and back of your head have to be neatly
    shaved, faded into the longer hair on top. You're
    not allowed to have "eccentric" haircuts, though
    what that means is a bit up to discretion. Kind of
    like porn, though, you know it when you see it.
    So you can shave your head bald (the guys who were
    actually balding usually did that), but can't have
    a tonsure like a Catholic monk.

    Now, at the time, we had this Italian guy from out
    on the island (that is, Long Island) in our platoon.
    This guy was a real joker; he was always doing
    stuff to deliberately piss off the staff NCOs. I
    was still enlisted at the time, probably a Lance
    Corporal or maybe a Corporal; I can't remember. But
    anyway, one day this dude comes in with this weird
    haircut. He doesn't have the regulation fade in the
    back, but rather, has a perfect line going from hair
    that's maybe an eighth of an inch down to skin going
    right around the back of his head. I mean, you coulda
    cut a steak on this thing. I take one look at this
    dude and say, "aww shit, ${name} is gettin' his head
    shaved today."

    Sure enough, in walks haircut Gunny, who then
    proceeds to lose his shit in the most fantastic way
    I've ever experienced. I mean, red face, eyes
    bulging, frothy spittle flying from mouth type pissed.
    Enraged, he screams, "GET ME MY FUCKING CLIPPERS!!"
    and proceeds to shave our poor friend's head right
    then and there, in the middle of the platoon training
    area.

    "Poor guy..." I think to myself.

    Later that morning we're in formation for some stupid
    thing or another. I'm in first rank along with a
    buddy of mine, another Italian guy, but this one's
    from Jersey. Our freshly shorn friend is right behind
    us. Jersey turns to Island and says, "so...the haircut.
    What the hell?" Island looks at Jersey, makes a slow
    circular motion with his index finger and simply says,
    "Sometimes you've just got to stir the pot a little bit."

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 23:38:44
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Feb 22 2020 15:49:33

    towards others that are here for civilized conversation.

    I wouldn't tell anyone to fuck off if they were here for civilized conversation. I usually reserve it for people who are a consistent drag, downer, irritant, and who show no sign of listening/learning/improving. Or friends who can tell when I'm joking.

    You can still talk
    without using profane words in a message. I do it all the time myself.

    I do it most of the time. I'd bet 80% or more of my messages over the past few years are profanity free. The other <= 20% of the time ... I forget there are people out there who are so sensitive to these words they get bent out of shape about it.

    I'd say I'm sorry, but to be fair I probably meant to offend you.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 23:51:02
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Dan Cross on Sat Feb 22 2020 15:59:15

    You know you talk all tough sitting behind your little computer screen.

    LOL ... yeah, that's enough. When somebody pulls out this tired old sentiment, it's a sure sign that the conversation's gone down the shitter for good.

    Pathetic, but also amusing. Have a good night.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Dan Cross on Sunday, February 23, 2020 00:08:41
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Dan Cross to The Millionaire on Sun Feb 23 2020 14:04:39

    I just meant that your take on "swearing" is bullshit.

    I agree, but it's clear that even sparse casual swearing offends some people to an extent that is mind-bogglingly foreign to me. I don't mind offending The Millionaire, but I don't want to be a bother to anyone else - within reason.

    Ah ... but what would be reasonable? I dropped three fucks on one line of text, so maybe that was too many fucks for one message. Surely there's a non-zero yet socially acceptable number of fucks-per-message(-per-year?), be it as low as 0.1 fucks-per-message (you can say "fuck" once every ten messages without reasonably offending anyone). This implies a form of "fuck-banking", where perhaps I could post a hundred fuck-free messages and earn myself ten fuck-credits to be spent at my discretion, whether it be ten fucks in one message or one fuck per message in ten successive messages. I'll have to think about that.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 23, 2020 00:17:03
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sat Feb 22 2020 19:52:32

    Yes but if everyone just got along with everyone here, there would be no offending to worry about.

    I ... did try to make that point a while back, albeit in a way that probably didn't register with you.

    Don't offend, don't be too easily offended. That's how getting along works: not by everyone rising to the comfort level of the most squeamish, but by all parties trying to meet in the middle.

    Don't swear too much, and don't shit your pants at the sight of a few "bad words" here and there. Okay? Why should everyone accommodate you if you're unwilling to accommodate them?

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Dan Cross on Sunday, February 23, 2020 00:21:14
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Dan Cross to Netsurge on Sun Feb 23 2020 16:53:05

    "Sometimes you've just got to stir the pot a little bit."

    I can get behind that kind of playful shit-disturbing. Fun of him to test the limits, and even more amusing that haircut-guy followed through on his threats.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Saturday, February 22, 2020 21:54:55
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Sat Feb 22 2020 08:21 pm

    Do you realize that it is entirely possible to offend someone
    without ever once using profanity?

    Gosh darn it, you've offended me now. If I wasn't woke before, I certainly am now!

    Nightfox

    ---
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to echicken on Saturday, February 22, 2020 22:02:24
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: echicken to Dan Cross on Sun Feb 23 2020 12:08 am

    Ah ... but what would be reasonable? I dropped three fucks on one line of text, so maybe that was too many fucks for one message. Surely there's a non-zero yet socially acceptable number of fucks-per-message(-per-year?), be it as low as 0.1 fucks-per-message (you can say "fuck" once every ten messages without reasonably offending anyone). This implies a form of "fuck-banking", where perhaps I could post a hundred fuck-free messages and earn myself ten fuck-credits to be spent at my discretion, whether it be ten fucks in one message or one fuck per message in ten successive messages. I'll have to think about that.

    Perhaps someone should write a script that can be run on a timer to periodically scan the messagebases on a Synchronet BBS to gather data on the "fuck count" of the messages. When the fuck count reaches a sysop-configurable threshold, it could take some kind of action, like sending a warning email to the particular user who exceeded the fuck count threshold (if it was a single user).

    Nightfox

    ---
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 23:32:32
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Fri Feb 21 2020 06:11 pm

    Would you just fuck off already? You're the fucking worst. Fucking
    hell.

    such profane language.i dont think DM really likes your behaviour on this network. other people have told me the same thimg as well.

    DM likely doesn't give a shit. There's a reason that DoveNet has basically no moderation. Anarchy rules.

    ..ed$$$$$$$ee.
    zd$$*"".$$*$$F"**$$e.
    d$$" .$$" ^$$c ^*$$.
    z$$" 4$$" ^$$c *$b.
    d$P z$$" ^$$L ^$$.
    J$P z$$" ^$$b ^$$
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$F
    4$$ J$$" $$b 4$$
    ^$$ d$$ *$$ 4$$
    $$L d$$ *$$ $$%
    ^$$cd$$ *$$d$P
    ^$$$$ *$$P
    *$$c .d$$"
    ^*$$bc. .e$$P"
    ^*$$$$$$eee$$$$$*"
    ^"""""""

    DaiTengu

    ... If little else, the brain is an educational toy.

    ---
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 23:43:49
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Feb 22 2020 03:49 pm

    Swearing is not human or an excuse, DM. It's a lack of respect and insolent towards others that are here for civilized conversation. You can still talk without using profane words in a message. I do it all the time myself.

    Fucking False.

    "Fuck" is the best, and most versatile word in the english language. It is my most favorite word, and I use it quite liberally in daily conversation, especially at work.

    From the movie "Fuck": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86zlSplwK2A

    DaiTengu

    ... The worst thing about censorship is ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to The Millionaire on Saturday, February 22, 2020 23:46:30
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Dan Cross on Sat Feb 22 2020 06:33 pm

    People can talk without swearing. I do it, DM does it, NF does it. Some people find it to be offensive and insulting especially when it's directed at someone who's a little more sensitive.


    "Sensitive?"


    give yer balls a tug, titfucker.

    DaiTengu

    ... Hindsight is an exact science.

    ---
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to echicken on Saturday, February 22, 2020 23:48:48
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: echicken to The Millionaire on Sat Feb 22 2020 11:38 pm

    The other <= 20% of the time ... I forget
    there are people out there who are so sensitive to these words they get bent out of shape about it.


    Fuck those fucking fuckers.

    DaiTengu

    ... Da trouble wit computers is, dey got no sense of humor.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ War Ensemble BBS - The sport is war, total war - warensemble.com
  • From Dan Cross@VERT to echicken on Monday, February 24, 2020 01:41:48
    On 23 Feb 2020 at 12:08a, echicken pondered and said...

    I agree, but it's clear that even sparse casual swearing offends some people to an extent that is mind-bogglingly foreign to me. I don't mind offending The Millionaire, but I don't want to be a bother to anyone
    else - within reason.

    I take it no fucks were given in the posting of the above message?

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  • From Netsurge@VERT to Nightfox on Sunday, February 23, 2020 09:18:28
    There are people who see it that way, and there are others who don't really feel offended by a few swear words.

    There are lots of us who fit into that category.

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  • From Netsurge@VERT to Dan Cross on Sunday, February 23, 2020 09:22:28
    Take it from the rest of us, he is a lost cause.

    Here's a related story.

    I'm with your former platoon member, stirring the pot keeps things interest.

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  • From Netsurge@VERT to echicken on Sunday, February 23, 2020 09:25:06
    I wouldn't tell anyone to fuck off if they were here for civilized conversation. I usually reserve it for people who are a consistent drag, downer, irritant, an d who show no sign of listening/learning/improving. Or friends who can tell when I'm joking.

    I have had the pleasure be being sworn at many a times by you sir, our venerable chicken. Although, I think I fit into the last category, unless you are my wife then I apparently fit into the "no sign of listening/learning/improving" category.

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  • From Netsurge@VERT to echicken on Sunday, February 23, 2020 09:32:40
    I agree, but it's clear that even sparse casual swearing offends some people to an extent that is mind-bogglingly foreign to me. I don't mind offending The Mill ionaire, but I don't want to be a bother to anyone
    else - within reason.

    Ah ... but what would be reasonable? I dropped three fucks on one line
    of text, so maybe that was too many fucks for one message. Surely
    there's a non-zero yet socially acceptable number of fucks-per-message(-per-year?), be it as low as 0.1 fucks-per-message
    (you can say "fuck" once every ten messages without reasonabl y
    offending anyone). This implies a form of "fuck-banking", where perhaps
    I coul d post a hundred fuck-free messages and earn myself ten fuck-credits to be spent at my discretion, whether it be ten fucks in
    one message or one fuck per messag e in ten successive messages. I'll have

    Your message was 148 words long containing 10 fucks (not quite a "don't give a fuck" message because you gave us a moderate amount of fucks).

    So if we take 148/10 and carry the one you get a 14.8% fuck level which is
    more than fucking reasonable in my opinion.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
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  • From Netsurge@VERT to DaiTengu on Sunday, February 23, 2020 09:36:48
    give yer balls a tug, titfucker.

    I was waiting for someone at some point to make a Letterkenny reference. If
    he is easily offended by any form of swearing then Letterkenny is right up
    his ally.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
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    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to echicken on Sunday, February 23, 2020 08:39:00
    echicken wrote to Dan Cross <=-

    Ah ... but what would be reasonable? I dropped three fucks on one
    line of text, so maybe that was too many fucks for one message.
    Surely there's a non-zero yet socially acceptable number of fucks-per-message(-per-year?), be it as low as 0.1
    fucks-per-message (you can say "fuck" once every ten messages
    without reasonably offending anyone). This implies a form of "fuck-banking", where perhaps I could post a hundred fuck-free
    messages and earn myself ten fuck-credits to be spent at my
    discretion, whether it be ten fucks in one message or one fuck
    per message in ten successive messages. I'll have to think about
    that.

    This is fucking great thinking. Nobel-laureate level thinking,
    even. Personally, my FPM number is around 12. Maybe 15. Any
    more than that and I go into the corner and curl up in a fetal
    position for a while.

    I will say that the term "fuck-credits" is not new though. When I
    was a young man, with two girlfriends, that term played a large
    and glorious part in my life. Hope that doesn't offend anyone
    that only ever had one girlfriend.


    ... A woman drove me to drink, and I never had the courtesy to thank her.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 23, 2020 08:47:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Dan Cross <=-

    People can talk without swearing. I do it, DM does it, NF does
    it.

    Certainly true. I do it too, nearly all the time.

    Some people find it to be offensive and insulting especially
    when it's directed at someone who's a little more sensitive.

    It is not always the problem of others to change/adjust to suit
    the "sensitive" person. That's a common misconception today,
    especially among the younger generations. The "masses" don't have
    to change to suit the "one". Don't be overly sensitive.

    To give this some BBS/echomail context, in the FidoNet network it
    is official policy that one should not be "excessively annoying",
    nor "too easily annoyed".


    ... All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 23, 2020 09:04:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Do you realize that it is entirely possible to offend someone
    without ever once using profanity?

    Yes but if everyone just got along with everyone here, there
    would be no offending to worry about.

    Not completely sure that's true, but... As for everyone getting
    along with everyone, do you do your part in helping that happen?
    As I've seen it, your messaging style is NOT in line with accepted
    norms, and therefore could be (and is) seen as offensive to
    others. You've been asked many times, and given
    suggestions/pointers on how to improve, but seem to just ignore
    those and continue on as you always have.

    So, if you truly want to get along with everyone, please do your
    share of trying. The burden is not solely on everyone else to
    please you. You share the burden of acting properly.



    ... Don't wait for your ship to come in - swim out to it.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From Dan Cross@VERT to Netsurge on Monday, February 24, 2020 05:15:48
    On 23 Feb 2020 at 09:32a, Netsurge pondered and said...

    I agree, but it's clear that even sparse casual swearing offends some people to an extent that is mind-bogglingly foreign to me. I don't mi offending The Mill ionaire, but I don't want to be a bother to anyone else - within reason.

    Ah ... but what would be reasonable? I dropped three fucks on one lin of text, so maybe that was too many fucks for one message. Surely there's a non-zero yet socially acceptable number of fucks-per-message(-per-year?), be it as low as 0.1 fucks-per-message (you can say "fuck" once every ten messages without reasonabl y offending anyone). This implies a form of "fuck-banking", where perha I coul d post a hundred fuck-free messages and earn myself ten fuck-credits to be spent at my discretion, whether it be ten fucks in one message or one fuck per messag e in ten successive messages. I'll

    Your message was 148 words long containing 10 fucks (not quite a "don't give a fuck" message because you gave us a moderate amount of fucks).

    So if we take 148/10 and carry the one you get a 14.8% fuck level which
    is more than fucking reasonable in my opinion.

    Solid analysis, but your fucking math is wrong. The percentage
    is actually (10/148)*100 or about a 6% fuck rate.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Gamgee on Sunday, February 23, 2020 08:18:25
    Not completely sure that's true, but... As for everyone getting
    along with everyone, do you do your part in helping that happen?
    As I've seen it, your messaging style is NOT in line with accepted
    norms, and therefore could be (and is) seen as offensive to
    others. You've been asked many times, and given
    suggestions/pointers on how to improve, but seem to just ignore
    those and continue on as you always have.

    So, if you truly want to get along with everyone, please do your
    share of trying. The burden is not solely on everyone else to
    please you. You share the burden of acting properly.

    ... Don't wait for your ship to come in - swim out to it.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL


    Since when did you become the new zone co-ordinator of Dove-Net? Did you threaten or blackmail DM for the job? Seems like it to me.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 23, 2020 10:56:31
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sat Feb 22 2020 19:52:32


    Do you realize that it is entirely possible to offend someone
    without ever once using profanity?

    Yes but if everyone just got along with everyone here,

    that's hard to do at times with incessant nonsensical off-topic posts emanating from certain people ;)

    there would be no offending to worry about.

    that's... uh... offending LUL


    )\/(ark

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to echicken on Sunday, February 23, 2020 11:05:46
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: echicken to Dan Cross on Sun Feb 23 2020 00:21:14


    "Sometimes you've just got to stir the pot a little bit."

    I can get behind that kind of playful shit-disturbing. Fun of him to
    test the limits, and even more amusing that haircut-guy followed
    through on his threats.

    i gotta wonder if haircut gunny ever figured out he was trolled and good LUL


    )\/(ark

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Rampage on Sunday, February 23, 2020 08:49:44
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sat Feb 22 2020 19:52:32

    that's hard to do at times with incessant nonsensical off-topic posts emanating from certain people ;)

    that's... uh... offending LUL

    )\/(ark

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    No it's called goading which is what you are a professional at.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to DaiTengu on Sunday, February 23, 2020 08:58:29
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Fri Feb 21 2020 06:11 pm

    DM likely doesn't give a shit. There's a reason that DoveNet has basically no moderation. Anarchy rules.

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    DaiTengu

    ... If little else, the brain is an educational toy.

    ---
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    Let's see how he responds to that comment.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Netsurge on Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:18:00
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Netsurge to DaiTengu on Sun Feb 23 2020 09:36 am

    give yer balls a tug, titfucker.

    I was waiting for someone at some point to make a Letterkenny reference. If he is easily offended by any form of swearing then Letterkenny is right up his ally.

    We need to lock him in a room with Shoresy for awhile.


    I wrote a Shoresy bot for Discord once. Every time you type !fuckyoushoresy It'd reply with a Shoresy chirp.

    DaiTengu

    ... In the long run, we are all dead.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:20:33
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to DaiTengu on Sun Feb 23 2020 08:58 am

    Let's see how he responds to that comment.

    5:1 odds he doesn't.

    DaiTengu

    ... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:57:46
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Feb 23 2020 08:49:44


    that's hard to do at times with incessant nonsensical off-topic
    posts emanating from certain people ;)

    that's... uh... offending LUL

    No it's called goading

    goad
    verb

    1. provoke or annoy (someone) so as to stimulate some action or reaction.


    in other words, goading == trolling ;)

    which is what you are a professional at.

    you have me confused with someone else...


    )\/(ark

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to echicken on Sunday, February 23, 2020 14:41:38
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Dan Cross to The Millionaire on Sun Feb 23 2020 14:04:39

    I just meant that your take on "swearing" is bullshit.

    I agree, but it's clear that even sparse casual swearing offends some people to an extent that is mind-bogglingly foreign to me. I don't mind offending The Millionaire, but I don't want to be a bother to anyone else - within reason.

    Ah ... but what would be reasonable? I dropped three fucks on one line of text, so maybe that was too many fucks for one message. Surely there's a non-zero yet socially acceptable number of fucks-per-message(-per-year?), be it as low as 0.1 fucks-per-message (you can say "fuck" once every ten messages without reasonably offending anyone). This implies a form of "fuck-banking", where perhaps I could post a hundred fuck-free messages and earn myself ten fuck-credits to be spent at my discretion, whether it be ten fucks in one message or one fuck per message in ten successive messages. I'll have to think about that.

    LMFAO

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ AlleyCat! BBS - http://alleycat.synchro.net:81
  • From Netsurge@VERT to Dan Cross on Sunday, February 23, 2020 13:42:48
    Solid analysis, but your fucking math is wrong. The percentage
    is actually (10/148)*100 or about a 6% fuck rate.

    It was suppose to be a Millionaire style analysis with a bit of backwards Lonnie Tunes "Carry the 1" backwards math but trying to convey that via
    typing is hard.

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Netsurge@VERT to DaiTengu on Sunday, February 23, 2020 13:47:12
    We need to lock him in a room with Shoresy for awhile.

    Greatest Shorsey quote ever:

    Shorsey: Fuck you Reilly, Fight me see what happens.

    Jonsey: What's going to happen?

    Shorsey: Three things: I hit you, you hit the pavement, ambulance hit's 60

    |15frank |08// |15netsurge
    |07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (1:229/101)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dan Cross on Sunday, February 23, 2020 10:51:14
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Dan Cross to echicken on Mon Feb 24 2020 01:41 am

    I agree, but it's clear that even sparse casual swearing offends
    some people to an extent that is mind-bogglingly foreign to me. I
    don't mind offending The Millionaire, but I don't want to be a
    bother to anyone else - within reason.

    I take it no fucks were given in the posting of the above message?

    https://i.imgflip.com/3q29rw.jpg

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 23, 2020 10:58:20
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sun Feb 23 2020 08:18 am

    Since when did you become the new zone co-ordinator of Dove-Net? Did you threaten or blackmail DM for the job? Seems like it to me.

    You want to tell people not to use swear words, but when someone makes a suggestion to you, you complain about them this way? Seems a little hypocritical. You should be able to take someone's advice and handle it well.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Dan Cross@VERT to Rampage on Monday, February 24, 2020 08:09:47
    On 23 Feb 2020 at 11:05a, Rampage pondered and said...

    i gotta wonder if haircut gunny ever figured out he was trolled and good LUL

    Dunno. He failed his PFT and dropped to the IRR and
    we never saw him again.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 23, 2020 07:51:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Yes but if everyone just got along with everyone here, there would be
    no offending to worry about.

    I find your post offensive.


    ... Be less critical more often
    --- MultiMail/XT v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to echicken on Sunday, February 23, 2020 07:54:00
    echicken wrote to Dan Cross <=-

    Ah ... but what would be reasonable? I dropped three fucks on one line
    of text, so maybe that was too many fucks for one message. Surely
    there's a non-zero yet socially acceptable number of fucks-per-message(-per-year?), be it as low as 0.1 fucks-per-message
    (you can say "fuck" once every ten messages without reasonably
    offending anyone). This implies a form of "fuck-banking", where perhaps
    I could post a hundred fuck-free messages and earn myself ten
    fuck-credits to be spent at my discretion, whether it be ten fucks in
    one message or one fuck per message in ten successive messages. I'll
    have to think about that.

    Sounds like a project for SlyEdit, to include a fuck-counter add-on.


    ... Be less critical more often
    --- MultiMail/XT v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to DaiTengu on Sunday, February 23, 2020 07:58:00
    DaiTengu wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    "Fuck" is the best, and most versatile word in the english language. It
    is my most favorite word, and I use it quite liberally in daily conversation, especially at work.

    I had a friend in college who, while working on his car, had a wrench slip.
    He banged the fuck out of his knuckles on the engine block and let out a
    loud "Fucking fuck FUCK!"

    A bystander/friend noted that Fuck could be a verb, gerund, and direct
    object in the same sentence. Now, that's a swear word!


    ... Be less critical more often
    --- MultiMail/XT v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to DaiTengu on Sunday, February 23, 2020 07:59:00
    DaiTengu wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    give yer balls a tug, titfucker.

    Saved to my taglines file.

    ... Be less critical more often
    --- MultiMail/XT v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Dan Cross@VERT to Netsurge on Monday, February 24, 2020 08:15:46
    On 23 Feb 2020 at 01:42p, Netsurge pondered and said...

    It was suppose to be a Millionaire style analysis with a bit of backwards Lonnie Tunes "Carry the 1" backwards math but trying to convey that via typing is hard.

    Ah, very well then. Carry on.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Dan Cross@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, February 24, 2020 08:17:28
    On 23 Feb 2020 at 10:51a, Nightfox pondered and said...

    I take it no fucks were given in the posting of the above message?

    https://i.imgflip.com/3q29rw.jpg

    Ah, that's how it's done. Nothing profane in sight....

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Altere@VERT/ATHEL to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 23, 2020 17:01:56
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Feb 22 2020 03:49 pm

    "Excessive" is subjective though. And this subject (me) doesn't think you've done either of those things (numbers 1 or 2) excessively. You're only human, after all.

    digital man
    Swearing is not human or an excuse, DM. It's a lack of respect and insolent towards others that are here for civilized conversation. You can still talk without using profane words in a message. I do it all the time myself.

    If you'd like to "debate" the rules and what they mean to the person who wrote them, perhaps you should take it to the debate forum. And while you're at it, take the audio crap to pro-audio or debate as well. I have around another 88 messages in this forum to read, and somehow I doubt half of them are related to Synchronet.


    -altere

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Athelstan BBS þ athelstan.org þ telnet:23 | ssh:2222
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Dan Cross on Monday, February 24, 2020 08:00:00
    On 02-24-20 01:41, Dan Cross wrote to echicken <=-

    On 23 Feb 2020 at 12:08a, echicken pondered and said...

    I agree, but it's clear that even sparse casual swearing offends some people to an extent that is mind-bogglingly foreign to me. I don't mind offending The Millionaire, but I don't want to be a bother to anyone
    else - within reason.

    I take it no fucks were given in the posting of the above message?

    DILLIGAF? :D


    ... Alimony: Bounty on the Mutiny
    === MultiMail/Win v0.51
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, February 23, 2020 15:33:16
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to echicken on Sun Feb 23 2020 07:54 am

    Sounds like a project for SlyEdit, to include a fuck-counter add-on.

    SlyEdit does have a text replacement feature (it works as the user types the message), so a sysop could have SlyEdit replace swear words with other words if desired.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Netsurge on Sunday, February 23, 2020 17:56:00
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Netsurge to DaiTengu on Sun Feb 23 2020 01:47 pm

    We need to lock him in a room with Shoresy for awhile.

    Greatest Shorsey quote ever:

    Shorsey: Fuck you Reilly, Fight me see what happens.

    Jonsey: What's going to happen?

    Shorsey: Three things: I hit you, you hit the pavement, ambulance hit's 60

    I prefer:

    Reilly: Fuck you, Shoresy!

    Shoresy: Fuck you Reilly, your mom pulled the goalie on me and now she's preggo! Surpise son, go rake the fuckin' yard!

    DaiTengu

    ... Superior ability breeds superior ambition. Spock, stardate 3141.9.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ War Ensemble BBS - The sport is war, total war - warensemble.com
  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, February 23, 2020 17:58:49
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to DaiTengu on Sun Feb 23 2020 07:59 am

    give yer balls a tug, titfucker.

    Saved to my taglines file.

    If you haven't watched Letterkenny, you should do so.

    It's on Hulu.

    DaiTengu

    ... Count Dracula - your Bloody Mary is ready...

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ War Ensemble BBS - The sport is war, total war - warensemble.com
  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Nightfox on Sunday, February 23, 2020 18:56:21
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Nightfox to Dan Cross on Sun Feb 23 2020 10:51 am

    I take it no fucks were given in the posting of the above message?

    https://i.imgflip.com/3q29rw.jpg


    BEHOLD, THE FIELD IN WHICH I GROW MY FUCKS



    LAY THINE EYES UPON IT, AND THOU SHALT SEE THAT IT IS BARREN



    even works in ascii.

    DaiTengu

    ... No more blah, blah, blah! Kirk, Miri, stardate 2713.6.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ War Ensemble BBS - The sport is war, total war - warensemble.com
  • From Ragnarok@VERT/DOCKSUD to Tony Langdon on Sunday, February 23, 2020 22:44:11
    El 22/2/20 a las 05:05, Tony Langdon escribi¢:
    On 02-22-20 15:41, Hung Tran wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Wildcat has wcBasic which cost from $99 to $400 you can create addons for Synchronet and Mystic for free. What else I hate is I need to get Platinum Xpress and NetSerial to get FTN working and only to hubs that runs NetSerial. At least both Synchronet and Mystic both as a mailer
    and tosser built in and can connect to hubs more FTN hubs. The only
    good thing Wildcat has is QWK network support.

    And I'm sure Synchronet's QWK network support is better. DM has added some nifty QWK networking features, and even better, he's documented them, so other
    BBS developers can incorporate them into their products.


    i think that synchronet lead the bbs software. It's very active development

    I think that another software like mystic have news.. but i can't the
    source code becase was closed.

    I dont like the closed source.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Dock Sud BBS TLD 24 HS - bbs.docksud.com.ar
  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Sunday, February 23, 2020 19:35:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Not completely sure that's true, but... As for everyone getting
    along with everyone, do you do your part in helping that happen?
    As I've seen it, your messaging style is NOT in line with accepted
    norms, and therefore could be (and is) seen as offensive to
    others. You've been asked many times, and given
    suggestions/pointers on how to improve, but seem to just ignore
    those and continue on as you always have.

    So, if you truly want to get along with everyone, please do your
    share of trying. The burden is not solely on everyone else to
    please you. You share the burden of acting properly.

    Since when did you become the new zone co-ordinator of Dove-Net?

    I didn't. Also, there is no such thing as a ZC in DoveNet.
    That's a Fido/other Net term. Do some research.

    Did you threaten or blackmail DM for the job? Seems like it to
    me.

    It seems that way to you because you're an idiot.

    I was simply TRYING to explain to you why you can't seem to "get
    along" with most others in here (and elsewhere). I was hopeful
    that you might eventually get it, but you clearly will not.

    Do us all a favor, and go away.



    ... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to THE MILLIONAIRE on Sunday, February 23, 2020 10:55:00
    Swearing is not human or an excuse, DM. It's a lack of respect and insolent TM>towards others that are here for civilized conversation. You can still talk TM>without using profane words in a message. I do it all the time myself.

    I heard one person describe it as "profanity is the attempt of a
    feeble mind to express itself forcibly". Both my late Mom and my late
    wife had a strong enough command of the English language...that if they
    had to do it, they could "tell someone off", but NOT use a single word
    of profanity in the conversation. I've known women who've had such
    filthy mouths, that they'd make a sailor blush. Nowadays, it seems "the
    world has forgotten how to blush".

    It goes back to the saying "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all". Plus, "if you wouldn't say it to your wife, daughter,
    mother, or the preacher, you don't say it"...yet, many have no qualms
    about that.

    For that matter, it was over 80 years ago when Clark Gable got into a
    severe fight with the Motion Picture Association Of America, who would
    NOT let him use the only dirty word in "Gone With The Wind"...from the
    book of the same name. It was near the end of the movie (well over 2
    hours long), where when Vivian Leigh (Scarlett O'Hara) asks Rhett Butler
    (Clark Gable) "what will I do with my life??"...and he replies "Frankly,
    my dear, I don't give a d@mn".

    That word is so tame nowadays, because most of the rap songs I hear
    have the "F Word" as every other word. One ventriloquist noted "Want to
    know what I think of Rap?? Put a C in front of it!!". To me, Rap is for
    folks who never learned how to sing...and from the content of most of
    it, it seems the only thing they know how to do is curse.

    Now, in the King James Version of the Bible, there are 2 passages in
    the Old Testament, showing how banal the people were. They basically
    were urinating and defecating wherever they felt like it (sounds like
    San Francisco today). The passage basically noted that "The Lord would
    destroy all of them -- even them that pisseth against a wall". The
    language of the King James Version is of William Shakespeare's Day
    (Elizabethan English). Their behavior was so vile (as in the days of
    Noah before the Flood)...so, God had to destroy them.

    Common courtesy and politeness has gone the way of the dinosaur and
    the dodo.

    Daryl

    * OLX 1.53 * Police station toilets stolen. Cops have nothing to go on
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Win32
    * Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.net (1:19/33)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to DAN CROSS on Sunday, February 23, 2020 10:49:00
    Dan,

    I spent much of my adult life in the service of the US
    Marine Corps. If I learned anything when I became a
    Marine, it's that what you just said is some bullshit.

    I said the BS word at work years ago, and this female employee I was
    working with, replied "Cows do, too. But, they don't brag about it". :P

    I had to admit she was right on that one. <G>

    Daryl


    * OLX 1.53 * Political Season: Does that mean we can shoot them??
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Win32
    * Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.net (1:19/33)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to NETSURGE on Sunday, February 23, 2020 10:49:00
    You know you talk all tough sitting behind your little computer screen.

    I bet his computer screen is bigger than yours.

    Size does matter. <G>

    Daryl


    * OLX 1.53 * Press <CTRL>-<ALT>-<DEL> to continue...
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Win32
    * Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.net (1:19/33)
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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Daryl Stout on Monday, February 24, 2020 11:14:15
    Re: Language/Profanity
    By: Daryl Stout to THE MILLIONAIRE on Sun Feb 23 2020 10:55:00

    I heard one person describe it as "profanity is the attempt of a
    feeble mind to express itself forcibly". Both my late Mom and my late

    It may be a saying, but that doesn't make it true. I have the pleasure of knowing many very intelligent people, almost none of whom are above cursing when (in their estimation) the situation warrants it. Clever expression, but it doesn't match up with my experience.

    wife had a strong enough command of the English language...that if they

    Like them or not, these words are part of that language and are available for use. As with so many things, there's a time, a place, and an acceptable amount.

    It goes back to the saying "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all". Plus, "if you wouldn't say it to your wife, daughter,

    It's a good rule, but it doesn't survive contact with the real world and remain 100% intact. There are situations where not-so-nice things are said, and sometimes need to be said.

    know what I think of Rap?? Put a C in front of it!!". To me, Rap is for folks who never learned how to sing...and from the content of most of
    it, it seems the only thing they know how to do is curse.

    I rarely listen to it - just not my thing - but this sounds like a huge misunderstanding of the genre. Kind of like saying that death metal fails to be music because the lead singer insists on growling instead of crooning like Bing Crosby or somesuch.

    It's not for folks who never learned to sing; it's not for folks who only want to hear a certain type of singing. There are plenty of talented artists writing interesting verse in that genre.

    Now, in the King James Version of the Bible, there are 2 passages in
    the Old Testament, showing how banal the people were. They basically
    were urinating and defecating wherever they felt like it (sounds like
    San Francisco today). The passage basically noted that "The Lord would destroy all of them -- even them that pisseth against a wall". The language of the King James Version is of William Shakespeare's Day (Elizabethan English). Their behavior was so vile (as in the days of
    Noah before the Flood)...so, God had to destroy them.

    I'm missing your point here. God didn't like public urination?

    Remember that for some (many) people, just because the Bible says something does not make it an unassailable truth. To me, they're just words in a book which I may occasionally agree with. It doesn't matter to me whether "God" frowns upon something; I have my own morals.

    (Don't get me wrong - I'd like to see public defecation and urination kept to a minimum.)

    Common courtesy and politeness has gone the way of the dinosaur and
    the dodo.

    Nah. Common courtesy and politeness may have changed and loosened up, but they still exist. I'm Canadian-level polite most of the time, but I also enjoy the irreverent and coarser things in life. It's all part of the fun.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From Grease@VERT/DARKMATT to Nightfox on Monday, February 24, 2020 11:04:12
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Nightfox to echicken on Sat Feb 22 2020 10:02 pm

    Perhaps someone should write a script that can be run on a timer to periodically scan the messagebases on a Synchronet BBS to gather data on the "fuck count" of the messages. When the fuck count reaches a sysop-configurable threshold, it could take some kind of action, like sending a warning email to the particular user who exceeded the fuck count threshold (if it was a single user).

    You could make it look like a stick. Then, when the stick was complete and at the top, the user would be called a "fuck-stick". Then you could have others that didn't use them, and you couldn't give them away, so they couldn't give a fuck.

    Grease
    darkmatt.synchro.net



    ... Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes right to the bone.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ DARK MATTER BBS <<*>> darkmatt.synchro.net <<*>> Howdy, Y'all!
  • From Grease@VERT/DARKMATT to DaiTengu on Monday, February 24, 2020 11:08:37
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: DaiTengu to The Millionaire on Sat Feb 22 2020 11:43 pm

    "Fuck" is the best, and most versatile word in the english language. It is my most favorite word, and I use it quite liberally in daily conversation, especially at work.

    I'm an "old", so one of my favorite comedic monologues is from George Carln, where you replace "kill" (which should be obscene) with fuck (which should be great).

    "We're gonna fuck ya, but we're gonna fuck ya real slow."

    Grease
    darkmatt.synchro.net



    ... Omens are there to be broken.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ DARK MATTER BBS <<*>> darkmatt.synchro.net <<*>> Howdy, Y'all!
  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Daryl Stout on Monday, February 24, 2020 13:17:53
    Re: Language/Profanity
    By: Daryl Stout to THE MILLIONAIRE on Sun Feb 23 2020 10:55 am

    Common courtesy and politeness has gone the way of the dinosaur and
    the dodo.

    Really? and how do you feel about today's PC culture?

    DaiTengu

    ... God is dead. But don't worry - the Virgin Mary is pregnant again.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ War Ensemble BBS - The sport is war, total war - warensemble.com
  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Grease on Monday, February 24, 2020 14:44:05
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Grease to DaiTengu on Mon Feb 24 2020 11:08 am

    I'm an "old", so one of my favorite comedic monologues is from George Carln, where you replace "kill" (which should be obscene) with fuck (which should be great).

    I think most everyone here is an old.

    And George Carlin was one of the greatest comedic minds, ever.

    DaiTengu

    ... Diplomacy is the art of letting someone else have your way.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ War Ensemble BBS - The sport is war, total war - warensemble.com
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Grease on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 08:49:00
    On 02-24-20 11:08, Grease wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    I'm an "old", so one of my favorite comedic monologues is from George Carln, where you replace "kill" (which should be obscene) with fuck
    (which should be great).

    Haha clever. :)

    "We're gonna fuck ya, but we're gonna fuck ya real slow."

    Promise? ;)


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to NIGHTFOX on Monday, February 24, 2020 11:01:00
    There are people who see it that way, and there are others who don't really N>feel offended by a few swear words.

    Once in a blue moon, or with a bit of suggestiveness, I don't mind.

    But, when it's like with most rap music, where every other word is
    an expletive, that's too much. To me, they don't have enough of a
    command of the English language.

    I would much rather go to a show rated "G" than one rated "R", because
    of the language.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to GAMGEE on Monday, February 24, 2020 11:03:00
    Do you realize that it is entirely possible to offend someone
    without ever once using profanity?

    Life is NOT "Fair" or "Burger King".

    Fair is a fall carnival, a weather term, or a call in baseball. And,
    you can NOT always 'Have It Your Way'.

    Next thing you know, people will be offended at others belching,
    sneezing, farting, etc. -- all normal bodily functions...and animals do likewise. If these were capital crimes, there would be no life left on
    Earth.

    Daryl


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  • From Grease@VERT/DARKMATT to DaiTengu on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 10:43:12
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: DaiTengu to Grease on Mon Feb 24 2020 02:44 pm

    I think most everyone here is an old.
    And George Carlin was one of the greatest comedic minds, ever.

    I guess we all have geritol in our bourbon. And yes, Carlin was one of the greatest. Thank you! No, thank you!

    Grease
    darkmatt.synchro.net



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  • From Grease@VERT/DARKMATT to Tony Langdon on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 10:45:43
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Tony Langdon to Grease on Tue Feb 25 2020 08:49 am

    I'm an "old", so one of my favorite comedic monologues is from
    George Carlin, where you replace "kill" (which should be obscene)
    with fuck (which should be great).
    Haha clever. :)

    "We're gonna fuck ya, but we're gonna fuck ya real slow."
    Promise? ;)

    Carlin was quite the wordsmith.

    Grease
    darkmatt.synchro.net



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  • From Jon Justvig@VERT/STEPPING to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 05:26:42
    Re: Language
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Mon Feb 24 2020 11:01 am

    Daryl,

    I would much rather go to a show rated "G" than one rated "R", because
    of the language.

    I'd rather have a nice peaceful day in peace and quiet once in awhile.

    Sincerely,
    Jon Justvig

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Grease on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 09:06:00
    On 02-25-20 10:45, Grease wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: Tony Langdon to Grease on Tue Feb 25 2020 08:49 am

    I'm an "old", so one of my favorite comedic monologues is from
    George Carlin, where you replace "kill" (which should be obscene)
    with fuck (which should be great).
    Haha clever. :)

    "We're gonna fuck ya, but we're gonna fuck ya real slow."
    Promise? ;)

    Carlin was quite the wordsmith.

    Seems like it. ;)


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to The Millionaire on Sunday, March 15, 2020 22:45:56
    On 2/20/20 6:43 PM, The Millionaire wrote:
    Synchronet pretty much exceeds Wildcat in every meaningful way. If you want a pretty GUI custom client and admin interfaces, then you'd
    probably need to fork out mid-six figures to fund development, because anyone capable of doing such development is unlikely to do so without it being a paying job. Just my $.02 Feature wise, it's leaps and bounds ahead of Wildcat.

    the website is www.santronics.com and it's pretty incredible. pretty expensive software though. nice to see you back man. long time no see.

    Thanks, been off and on again... made a little slow progress on this
    board, but been working more this past month.

    To me, it comes down to Wildcat doesn't really offer anything worthwhile
    over Synchronet in terms of what an end user would see/use. In fact, it
    seems to be more the opposite.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Nightfox on Sunday, March 15, 2020 22:51:17
    On 2/20/20 10:37 PM, Nightfox wrote:
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS vs. Wildcat Professional
    By: The Millionaire to Tracker1 on Thu Feb 20 2020 05:43 pm

    TM> the website is www.santronics.com and it's pretty incredible. pretty
    TM> expensive software though. nice to see you back man. long time no see.

    What do you think makes Wildcat look 'incredible'? I haven't used any Wildcat BBSes lately, so I'm probably out of touch, but I somehow doubt it's leaps and bounds ahead of Synchronet, or much different than it used to be. I never hear any BBS sysops raving about it. It seems Synchronet and Mystic are two of the most popular BBS packages being used right now.

    Agreed... I think that Enigma and Legacy-X are also getting some
    traction as well... x84 seems to have stalled out.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to The Millionaire on Sunday, March 15, 2020 22:59:07
    On 2/21/20 9:35 AM, The Millionaire wrote:
    What do you think makes Wildcat look 'incredible'? I haven't used any
    Wildcat BBSes lately, so I'm probably out of touch, but I somehow doubt it's >> leaps and bounds ahead of Synchronet, or much different than it used to be. >> I never hear any BBS sysops raving about it. It seems Synchronet and Mystic >> are two of the most popular BBS packages being used right now.

    Taken from the site:

    "Wildcat! is the most successful commercial computer Bulletin Board System (BBS) software package in history - over 80,000 were sold connecting more than
    30 million consumers."

    Source: www.santronics.com

    Sounds like a marketing blurb from a horse carriage company. "We used
    to make 200 carriages a year..."

    In the top million websites... Windows IIS has 85k servers. Apache has
    over 400k. Quality has nothing to do with quantity, and commercial
    success has nothing to do with overall features or market share.

    Again, you haven't mentioned any features that make it sound incredible.

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    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to The Millionaire on Sunday, March 15, 2020 23:13:34
    On 2/22/20 3:47 PM, The Millionaire wrote:
    I never swear in my messages DM, unless I am told I can. I just
    censor my words so I don't offend anyone here.

    My problem is, and I've argued against censoring/screening systems is
    that the contextual tone is far more meaningful than the words used.

    "That's fucking badass!"

    vs.

    "You are the most ignorant form of human excrement that has ever existed."

    The second is much more offensive and without using a swear word.

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    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

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