1. Does this BBS software have it's own "frontdoor" for echos likeFidonet?
2. Does this BBS software have it's own mail tosser?
3. Is there anyone out there would like to talk me through, on the phone,setting one up, Step by Step?
I have some questions about this BBS software. I've been toying with the idea of a Telnet BBS.
Som here we go!
1. Does this BBS software have it's own "frontdoor" for echos like Fidonet?
2. Does this BBS software have it's own mail tosser?
3. Is there anyone out there would like to talk me through, on the phone, setting one up, Step by Step?
FWIW, I used to be a BBS owner in the 1990's. I ran TAG, frontdoor, Gecho under DOS. Needless to say, things have changed!
Thanks,
-Chuck Adkins K8CPA
Lincoln Park, Mi
... Computer Hacker wanted. Must have own axe.
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Charles P. Adkins wrote to All <=-
I have some questions about this BBS software. I've been toying
with the idea of a Telnet BBS.
Som here we go!
1. Does this BBS software have it's own "frontdoor" for echos
like Fidonet?
2. Does this BBS software have it's own mail tosser?
3. Is there anyone out there would like to talk me through, on
the phone, setting one up, Step by Step?
FWIW, I used to be a BBS owner in the 1990's. I ran TAG,
frontdoor, Gecho under DOS. Needless to say, things have changed!
I set up Synchronet before. I'm willing to help.
I thank you for the offer. But, honestly, I really don't have the patience to it or the time. and things have changed since the MS-DOS days.
=Chuck
... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly
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Charles P. Adkins wrote to The Millionaire <=-
I set up Synchronet before. I'm willing to help.
I thank you for the offer. But, honestly, I really don't have the patience to it or the time. and things have changed since the
MS-DOS days.
I have some questions about this BBS software. I've been toying with the idea of a Telnet BBS.
Som here we go!
1. Does this BBS software have it's own "frontdoor" for echos like Fidonet?
2. Does this BBS software have it's own mail tosser?
3. Is there anyone out there would like to talk me through, on the phone, setting one up, Step by Step?
FWIW, I used to be a BBS owner in the 1990's. I ran TAG, frontdoor, Gecho under
DOS. Needless to say, things have changed!
Thanks,
-Chuck Adkins K8CPA
Lincoln Park, Mi
... Computer Hacker wanted. Must have own axe.
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The Millionaire wrote to Charles P. Adkins <=-o
@VIA: TIME/VERT
@MSGID: <5E36DFD4.9121.sync@vert.synchro.net>
@REPLY: <5E364CFB.40653.sync@battlestarbbs.dyndns.org>
@TZ: 41e0
I thank you for the offer. But, honestly, I really don't have the patience
it or the time. and things have changed since the MS-DOS days.
=Chuck
... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly
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But you asked for help.
Gamgee wrote to Charles P. Adkins <=-
@VIA: TIME/VERT/PALANT
@MSGID: <5E36D510.7769.dove-syncdisc@palantirbbs.ddns.net>
@REPLY: <5E364CFB.40653.sync@battlestarbbs.dyndns.org>
@TZ: 4168
Charles P. Adkins wrote to The Millionaire <=-
I set up Synchronet before. I'm willing to help.
I thank you for the offer. But, honestly, I really don't have the patience to it or the time. and things have changed since the
MS-DOS days.
Then why did you ask if anyone would mind helping you set up a
BBS?
Charles P. Adkins wrote to Gamgee <=-
I set up Synchronet before. I'm willing to help.
I thank you for the offer. But, honestly, I really don't have the patience to it or the time. and things have changed since the
MS-DOS days.
Then why did you ask if anyone would mind helping you set up a
BBS?
I see where this is going. I don't like being lawyerd... see ya
bye.
On 02-02-20 11:51, mrbrad wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet <=-
I've got a question. I have a static IP line. Would it be best to just
set this up with ONLY the static IP line and synchronet and just use a
2nd Inet (not static) for my personal use. In other words, risk of
stuff going wrong on the sbbs end and not use personal inet time on the supposed dedicated static IP for synchronet.
I guess a 'side question' is could I setup the static IP line with 2 routers and accomplish the same thing above?
A BBS uses so little data it's not worth separating it out.
To: mrbrad
On 02-02-20 11:51, mrbrad wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet <=-
mr> I've got a question. I have a static IP line. Would it be best to just
mr> set this up with ONLY the static IP line and synchronet and just use a
mr> 2nd Inet (not static) for my personal use. In other words, risk of
mr> stuff going wrong on the sbbs end and not use personal inet time on the
mr> supposed dedicated static IP for synchronet.
I'm not following your reasoning. $44/month extra just to run a BBS seems excessive. My overhead for my IPv4 tunnel is less than that for a _year_ and I
get 14 useable static IPs.
A BBS uses so little data it's not worth separating it out. If you did want to
run the BBS separately, a cheaper route would be to host it on a VPS externally
($10/month or less is possible with some shopping around).
But for most people, simply setting the BBS up on a static internal IP and then
port forwarding the relevant ports (telnet, SSB, binkp, etc) is the best way.
mr> I guess a 'side question' is could I setup the static IP line with 2
mr> routers and accomplish the same thing above?
That would depend on your ISP. It sometimes is possible.
... The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried.
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On 02-02-20 20:44, mrbrad wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet <=-
Sorry. Static IP with Spetrum in my area is $125 even a month.
Also I plan to run 'unsupported' bbs pkg (worldgroup and major bbs)
maybe if i had the synchronet as a front end in that it has no major security problems I could pull that off. In that sbbs was updated
1/1/19.
Static IP per say is mainly for the WG/MBBS/vitcom TCP/IP (static IP)
ad other stuff like majormud and telearena etc.....a snarl of old wg
bbs stuff.
So yeah, it is spendy out here. Also have a Bitcoin Biz thus the static
IP I can write the works off..ths static/ip biz line if I went this
route.
I called spectrum they said they would be happy to do the separate
router for the same fee as just picking up the other personal use $44
buck variable IP personal inet line....so no redress there. Dubious security anyway. Or I could buy another router and split and like you
said no real security improvement
fun/fun. Anyway, no real time lately but I keep thinking about getting
the lost gonzo bbs/nostaligia bbs back up but a lot of work for one
guy.
I'll just muddle through I guess, thanks for the help.
On 02-03-20 12:47, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
@VIA: VERT
Hi! Tony,
On 03 Feb 20 09:57, you wrote to mrbrad:
A BBS uses so little data it's not worth separating it out.
That's what I thought, till it came time to upgrade the OS. So, I converted the Fidonet operation to a VirtualBox, to transfer it to my other server PC. (Docker things would work as well but that technology
is foreign to me.)
Ooh. My Fidonet is back on this PC. My other node is on the other PC.
Can't tell, can you. ;)
Well, that depends on your quota. :) I'm on unlimited, so I don't give a rat's. :D
Can't tell, can you. ;)
Don't know, don't care. :D
other server PC. (Docker things would work as well but that technology is foreign to me.)
If you want help with docker - I can help you there.
I run SBBS in docker, and used to run MBSE and Mystic in docker - but no DOS doors though (I didnt get that far - is doable though)...
On 02-03-20 17:34, Paul Quinn wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Hi! Tony,
On 02/03/2020 03:35 PM, you wrote:
Well, that depends on your quota. :) I'm on unlimited, so I don't give a rat's. :D
Mmm... what's a quota?
Can't tell, can you. ;)
Don't know, don't care. :D
Just funnin'. 8-)
To: mrbrad
On 02-02-20 20:44, mrbrad wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet <=-
mr> Sorry. Static IP with Spetrum in my area is $125 even a month.
Ouch, for me it only costs an extra $10/month for a single static IPv4 and a static /56 IPv6 prefix.
mr> Also I plan to run 'unsupported' bbs pkg (worldgroup and major bbs)
mr> maybe if i had the synchronet as a front end in that it has no major
mr> security problems I could pull that off. In that sbbs was updated
mr> 1/1/19.
"unsupported" by whom? In this context, I don't know what you mean.
mr> Static IP per say is mainly for the WG/MBBS/vitcom TCP/IP (static IP)
mr> ad other stuff like majormud and telearena etc.....a snarl of old wg
mr> bbs stuff.
OK, well static IP makes inbound connections easier.
mr> So yeah, it is spendy out here. Also have a Bitcoin Biz thus the static
mr> IP I can write the works off..ths static/ip biz line if I went this
mr> route.
Yep. :)
mr> I called spectrum they said they would be happy to do the separate
mr> router for the same fee as just picking up the other personal use $44
mr> buck variable IP personal inet line....so no redress there. Dubious
mr> security anyway. Or I could buy another router and split and like you
mr> said no real security improvement
mr> fun/fun. Anyway, no real time lately but I keep thinking about getting
mr> the lost gonzo bbs/nostaligia bbs back up but a lot of work for one
mr> guy.
mr> I'll just muddle through I guess, thanks for the help.
OK, I'm still a little confused about the end goal. It's still not really making sense, and it seems like you're doing this the long way around for reasons I don't understand.
... Interchangeable parts won't.
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1. Does this BBS software have it's own "frontdoor" for echos like Fidonet?
2. Does this BBS software have it's own mail tosser?
3. Is there anyone out there would like to talk me through, on the phone,
On 02-03-20 11:27, mrbrad wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet <=-
Major WG BBS uses vircom tcp/ip which requires (at least with a large a system I plan on putting up...even if boxes only in test mode till VM) again, really requires a static ip...or at least last I .looked the variable IP router cable hoops I'd jump through to get this to work is daunting.
Also I'm in a University town, the biz line static IP never goes down.
When I had regular cable with the rotating IP's etc it crashed like 4-8 times a month. That was unacceptable in that I was running Bitcoin
miners 24/7 in basement. Thus the static IP. Charter is only Inet in
town with any real reliability...thus their upkeep sucks being a university town and all, IMHO.
my question is with an unsupported BBS package on the internet even if
I use synchronet as the front end to such ...would I be better off just letting the bbs live/die on its own networks (static ip) and just pick
up the same speed home network (variable ip) at the same speed for $44 bucks to be safe. I would not give a damn if such was hacked.
I want to do synchronet as the front end, but that may be ugly as sin
to do initially, but that is the wise move in that the synrhonet
package had its last support date just updated with windows 10 on
1/1/19. Unlike my other mbbs/wg packages.
Anyway, thus the concerns. I don't much care if the for example if the static IP gets hacked via this BBS menagerie in some manner. But have personal and other use I could for just the heck of it spring the $44 bucks and just run on the cheap variable IP $44 option to be safe on
the side :) Thus the only security issues would be on the BBS's own
static IP line.
Hopefully this clears some stuff up. Also I looked at a port forwarding and security router thingy?
Was way over my head. Thus above option. Of course I also know, eventually, a lot of the above machines from back in the day can be compressed into VM...but first I have to get the large beast back up
and stable from backups.
Grease wrote to Charles P. Adkins <=-
Re: Questions about Synchronet BBS software
By: Charles P. Adkins to All on Sat Feb 01 2020 12:59 pm
1. Does this BBS software have it's own "frontdoor" for echos like Fidonet?
2. Does this BBS software have it's own mail tosser?
3. Is there anyone out there would like to talk me through, on the phone,
As Meatloaf said, "It's got that and it has that, but there aint
no way that I'm gonna call you. Now don't feel bad, 'casue two
out of three ain't bad.
There are several places to look. 1 is the wiki's, and two is the
chat in synchronet, and three is this echo. Just go to https://synchro.net/docs/install.html or this one for linux: https://gist.github.com/phuckewe/897d8559f2f6c287d07a
That at least will get you up and running. It will let you send
and receive dovenet and let you get to the outside world. If you
can't connect, then here would be the next best place to go: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip
This is a good starting point.
As Meatloaf said, "It's got that and it has that, but there aint no way that I'm gonna call you. Now don't feel bad, 'casue two out of three ain't bad.
He's already replied that it's too much trouble to bother setting
up. Asked for help and then bailed.
I guess it was just a troll.
yeah , meatloaf didnt say that
my question is with an unsupported BBS package on the internet even if I
use synchronet as the front end to such ...would I be better off just letting the bbs live/die on its own networks (static ip) and just pick
up the same speed home network (variable ip) at the same speed for $44
bucks to be safe. I would not give a damn if such was hacked.
On 02-04-20 08:55, Grease wrote to Gamgee <=-
The only thing I could think of was that you *actually* had to set it
up. You just didn't click on .exe and presto, you have a BBS.
I remember setting up Maximus back in the day. That was much harder to
me. NOw you go down a checklist, copy/paste, and then search for the
extra stuff you want.
I remember setting up RA, BinkleyTerm and whatever tosser I was using at the time. It took me a couple of weeks to be confident enough to setup Fidonet and apply for a node number. I remember it was a steep learning curve at the time, but so rewarding, once I got it all going!
To: mrbrad
Re: Re: Questions about Synchronet BBS software -new topic- Static IP
By: mrbrad to alt.bbs.synchronet on Mon Feb 03 2020 11:27:24
my question is with an unsupported BBS package on the internet even if I
use synchronet as the front end to such ...would I be better off just
letting the bbs live/die on its own networks (static ip) and just pick
up the same speed home network (variable ip) at the same speed for $44
bucks to be safe. I would not give a damn if such was hacked.
I'm not sure what your intentions are... if you are just running Synchronet, I can say I'm using a mid-level (for a BBS) VPS on Digital Ocean ($20/month size). I first moved the SSH port to another port, and enabled that port in ufw before restarting sshd... from there, I've been using VS Code + Remote SSH extension to edit files after installing /sbbs/ ... since then, I setup other service (not telnet/ssh for now, and have https behind another domain name so I can access/test).
In any case, a linux host of even modest level can handle dozens of BBS users without issue. If you're stuck on majorbbs/wg, then you will afaik need a windows system to run it, and may still be better off with a windows VPS service, they can get pricey.. Azure pricing is meh, but about your best bet... would stay away from anything with less than 8gb ram if you're doing a windows vps though. You'd be able to remote desktop in, and run whatever you want, it will also have a static IP. Most VPS services also offer firewall filtering at their network layer, so you can restrict to only the ports you want open, and limit RDP to your home's IP address (and update via web as needed).
In short... I'd put it on a rented server in a datacenter, probably virtual to keep pricing down to reasonable.
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On 02-05-20 11:09, Grease wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I switched to RA after about a year. I used Front Door, though. Fun
times!
Tony Langdon wrote to Grease <=-
RA was my first choice, loved it. Not sure why I ended up with Bink,
but I quite liked it too. Hydra bidirectional transfers were also a
big time saver between 2 Binkley systems. :)
RA was my first choice, loved it. Not sure why I ended up with Bink, but I quite liked it too. Hydra bidirectional transfers were also a big time saver between 2 Binkley systems. :)
Grease wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: Questions about Synchronet BBS software
By: Tony Langdon to Grease on Thu Feb 06 2020 02:32 pm
RA was my first choice, loved it. Not sure why I ended up with Bink, but I quite liked it too. Hydra bidirectional transfers were also a big time saver between 2 Binkley systems. :)
I ran what my friend was running at the time, because two heads
tring to fiure something out was better than one. I later tried
RA and liked it, and switched. Always ran FD.
Went to Synch on the comeback trail, because it had it "all" and
ran on linux.
I was a PCBoard and Frontdoor (later Intermail) guy back in the
90's (running under DOS). Had an FTN/Fido mentor that helped me
with the details of batch files and such. Good times.
On 02-06-20 06:41, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Although it was rougher around the edges than FD, I liked BSO better
than ArcMailAttach.
On 02-06-20 10:05, Grease wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I ran what my friend was running at the time, because two heads tring
to fiure something out was better than one. I later tried RA and liked
it, and switched. Always ran FD.
Went to Synch on the comeback trail, because it had it "all" and ran on linux.
Mystic is used primarily as a FTN hub, rather than a user oriented
system.
Synchronet was the first system I tried when I came back to BBSing a fewyears
ago.
I've also since started a Mystic board, though this one gets the most attention. Mystic is used primarily as a FTN hub, rather than a useroriented
system.
On 02-07-20 15:33, Oli wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
The first thing I tried (on Linux) was MBSE, but didn't like it (I
don't think bbs users should be mapped to unix users).
In the 90s I used Squish and Maximus. First in DOS, but soon switched
to OS/2 which was great for BBS and Fidonet software (I still miss it
for FTN, but it doesn't run on the Pi and not very well on the VPS in QEMU).
Nowadays I'm not interested much in traditional BBSes anymore. Text and terminal is not the problem, more the kind of user interface and the arcane signup/login process. (I tried to compile Maximus on Linux
anyway. Didn't work and then I realized that there are other projects
that are more interesting than setting up my own BBS again).
I guess that is one reason I'm running a very similar setup than 25+
years ago. BinkD instead of BinkleyTerm, Crashmail instead of Squish
and GoldEd / GossipEd instead of GoldEd and all the other editors that were available on OS/2. The only thing that is new in my setup is JamNNTPd. I still have "testing Synchronet" on my todo list, the Javascript stuff looks interesting, native TLS support in binkit is
nice too.
On 02-07-20 21:39, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Hi! Tony,
On 07 Feb 20 18:56, you wrote to Grease:
Mystic is used primarily as a FTN hub, rather than a user oriented
system.
I did the same with mine. It only does whatever mail a binkD task
throws at it.
07 Feb 20 18:56, you wrote to Grease:
years
The first thing I tried (on Linux) was MBSE, but didn't like it (I don't think bbs users should be mapped to unix users).
In the 90s I used Squish and Maximus. First in DOS, but soon switched to OS/2 which was great for BBS and Fidonet software (I still miss it for FTN, but it doesn't run on the Pi and not very well on the VPS in QEMU).
Nowadays I'm not interested much in traditional BBSes anymore. Text and terminal is not the problem, more the kind of user interface and the arcane signup/login process. (I tried to compile Maximus on Linux anyway. Didn't work and then I realized that there are other projects that are more interesting than setting up my own BBS again).
I guess that is one reason I'm running a very similar setup than 25+ years ago.
BinkD instead of BinkleyTerm, Crashmail instead of Squish and GoldEd / GossipEd
instead of GoldEd and all the other editors that were available on OS/2. The only thing that is new in my setup is JamNNTPd. I still have "testing Synchronet" on my todo list, the Javascript stuff looks interesting, native TLS
support in binkit is nice too.
oriented
But why? I never had any bigger problem with my uplinks (I was most active around the mid 90s). Everything worked 99% of the time perfectly until I tried to get mails from a Mystic hub. Worst FTN experience ever. Missing mails, downtimes (it seems to crash windows every now and then), slow binkp implementation, wrong timestamps, mangeld formatting that don't work well with other editors (including NNTP readers). It still (AFAIK) ignores Fidonet standards and the P4.
If it did work properly, it would be a nice all in one package though (no for me, I don't touch closed source software). It seems others had better experiences with it.
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Mystic is a pretty good BBS too as well.
I remember setting up RA, BinkleyTerm and whatever tosser I was using at the TL>time. It took me a couple of weeks to be confident enough to setup Fidonet TL>apply for a node number. I remember it was a steep learning curve at the ti TL>but so rewarding, once I got it all going!
On 02-05-20 07:44, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Mine was GT Power, then Virtual Advanced, and Synchronet...with all
the FIDONet utilities. You're right...it's a heck of a learning curve,
but it's rewarding when everything gets working properly.
Tony,
Mine was GT Power, then Virtual Advanced, and Synchronet...with all
the FIDONet utilities. You're right...it's a heck of a learning curve,
but it's rewarding when everything gets working properly.
Daryl
* OLX 1.53 * Black Holes: What you get in black socks.
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Mine was GT Power, then Virtual Advanced, and Synchronet...with all the FIDONet utilities. You're right...it's a heck of a learning curve, but it's rewarding when everything gets working properly.
That's the real satisfaction in this hobby.
Virtual Advanced was pretty good but had to write a lot of batch files for i
On 02-12-20 21:03, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
That's the real satisfaction in this hobby.
Plus, it's one of the few hobbies I can still do. I enjoy the
bantering in the message areas.
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