Is there a real Linux tablet out there that just runs Linux only
with Synchronet?
Is there a real Linux tablet out there that just runs Linux only with Synchronet?
I don't know of anyone who has installed Synchronet (or any BBS) on an Android device. It might be doable but I think BBSs generaly are best run from some kind of a server so they are always available for callers.
What exactly do you mean by "a server"?
Synchronet can run on any PC capable of running Windows or Linux.
And I seem to recall hearing some sysops had gotten it running on
Mac OS X as well.
Re: RE: Linux Tablets With Synchronet?
By: Al to The Millionaire on Sat Nov 30 2019 04:51 am
What exactly do you mean by "a server"? Synchronet can run on any PC capable of running Windows or Linux. And I seem to recall hearing some sysops had gotten it running on Mac OS X as well.
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The Android is linux based. They run a linux kernel, probably modified
for that purpose. A tablet (Android or not) is a great client app but probably not as good of a server.
I don't know of anyone who has installed Synchronet (or any BBS) on an Android device. It might be doable but I think BBSs generaly are best run from some kind of a server so they are always available for callers.
Ttyl :-),
Al
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Re: Linux Tablets With Synchronet?
By: The Millionaire to All on Fri Nov 29 2019 06:03 pm
Is there a real Linux tablet out there that just runs Linux only with Synchronet?
As far as I know, there is no tablet that runs a plain Linux distro.
Tablets that aren't Apple-based or Microsoft based are normally Android-based. Android does have Linux at its base, but of course, they have the Android UI and support the Android ecosystem. If you root an Android tablet though, you should be able to access the Linux system via SSH and such. But that depends on whether you want to root the device or not.
There is AnLinux app that is basically an Android VM that allows Linux to be installed and run without needing to root the device, though I do not recommend it. https://github.com/EXALAB/Anlinux-App
Personally, I believe in using the proper tool for the job, and a bbs on a tablet doesn't seem to be viable, except for shits-n-giggles experimenting :)
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I find a tablet (although I don't have one) is a great little mobile device. Because they can drop their internet connection when you are roaming around with it and pick up a signal again, drop the connection again is why I say a tablet is not the best platform for a BBS since it would drop folks who were online as that happens.
What exactly do you mean by "a server"? Synchronet can run on any PC
capable of running Windows or Linux. And I seem to recall hearing
some sysops had gotten it running on Mac OS X as well.
Yeah I got Synchronet working on a VM with Mac OS X. It was cool had the best of both worlds on one computer.
Personally, I believe in using the proper tool for the job, and a bbs on a tablet doesn't seem to be viable, except for shits-n-giggles experimenting :)
Re: Re: Linux Tablets With Synchronet?
By: Mortifis to Nightfox on Sat Nov 30 2019 10:44 am
I agree. I think it could be run easily on something like a Microsoft Surface, since that's basically just another Windows Intel platform, but I wouldn't move it around anywhere. Might as well get an inexpensive PC to run the BBS on.
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Well actually Al there was a Linux based machine that was released
by Canonical. I believe it was called the PineTab or something like
that and was ARM based. Was about $79. Good deal I think in my
opinion. Linux is a pretty cool OS with lots of goodies that you
get to tinker around with.
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/01/pine-tab-linux-tablet
Is there a real Linux tablet out there that just runs Linux only with Synchronet?
Al wrote to The Millionaire <=-
Well actually Al there was a Linux based machine that was released
by Canonical. I believe it was called the PineTab or something like
that and was ARM based. Was about $79. Good deal I think in my
opinion. Linux is a pretty cool OS with lots of goodies that you
get to tinker around with.
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/01/pine-tab-linux-tablet
I'll have a look at that. I think the Pi's are also an option.
Here in Canada you can get a starter kit for $100.00 os so.
In the past those Pi's needed to boot and run from an SD card. SD
cards don't have to life span of an SSD or HD and I know some
folks have lost their BBS when the SD card failed.
I'm not sure if that is the case with the newer Pi's. If you
could boot it from an SD card and use an external HD or SSD it
would be quite workable.
Pine64 is supposedly working on a linux tablet, was supposed to be out late this year. You can install Ubuntu on some of the older Nexus hardware, I've fooled around with it on a Nexus 7 as well as one of my old Nexus 6's. Don't know what your results would be on a newer tablet. Check Reddit or maybe over at XDA Developers. Both good places to start.
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Starting with the RPi-3B you can boot/run entirely off an external
hard drive, no SD card needed at all. I do think I remember
reading that the RPi-4 can't however, for some strange reason.
I don't know of anyone who has installed Synchronet (or any BBS) on an
Android device. It might be doable but I think BBSs generaly are best
run from some kind of a server so they are always available for
callers.
Ttyl :-),Well actually Al there was a Linux based machine that was released by Canonical. I believe it was called the PineTab or something like that and was ARM based. Was about $79. Good deal I think in my opinion. Linux is a pretty cool OS with lots of goodies that you get to tinker around with.
What is Nexus like?
They were really good phones/tablets. Unfortunately since the
Nexus program was superceded by the Pixels it doesn't really matter anymore
<g> although you can still find good ones on Swappa or eBay. I just picked up
a Nexus 6 a couple of weeks ago so that I could integrate something into my home automation system.
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I just picked
<g> up
a Nexus 6 a couple of weeks ago so that I could integrate something into my home automation system.
Oli wrote to Gamgee <=-
Starting with the RPi-3B you can boot/run entirely off an external
hard drive, no SD card needed at all. I do think I remember
reading that the RPi-4 can't however, for some strange reason.
The PI 4 has a different desgin. It's bootloader is in the EEPROM
and it does not use bootcode.bin on the SD. USB ports and
Ethernet are on the PCIe bus. When the Pi 4 was released the code
for USB boot just didn't exist, but they are working on it. I
don't think there is a release date yet, maybe sometime next
year.
== Network and USB boot ==
Support for these additional bootmodes will be added in the
future via optional bootloader updates. The current schedule is
to release network boot first, then USB boot.
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https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/boo teeprom.md
== Raspberry Pi4 bootloader EEPROM release notes ==
2019-11-18
* Various internal refactorings to prepare for USB MSD storage
boot in
the next beta-series.
2019-09-23
* Add support for network boot
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https://github.com/raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom/blob/master/firmware/rel ease-notes.md
So IYOO, what would you recommend for putting Linux on a tablet then?
What are you using for your home automation system?
On 01 Dec 2019, Mortifis said the following...
What are you using for your home automation system?
I am assuming you were replying to me (the message was to the Millionaire). The main backbone is HomeSeer. I've been running it since around 2000 and am very partial to it. Also use Home Assistant, MQTT and NodeRED to communicate between HS and the few things it doesn't support very well (Sonoff's and stuff like that). As far as the hardware I finally retired the rest of my X10 stuff recently and use mostly Z-Wave switches and plugs although I have a few sonoff's scattered around. I like that they are cheap and easy to mod (who doesn't like spending $5 vs $40+?) I did replace my thermostat with a Nest
that I really like and a Nest Hello at the front door. Oh yeah, pull the video in from that and a mix of cameras using Blue Iris, which also interfaces with HS. For voice control I use both Alexa devices and Google Home, although I am considering converting to raspberry pi's since the voice control is the only thing I have that doesn't strictly rely on the Internet being accessible. I like local control.
I also use an app called Tasker on my phones (I am strictly an Android guy, don't see anything wrong with iphones, just what I prefer) and can trigger a lot of stuff from that as well depending on my activities.
You asked...<g>
Talking about HA is like going down a huge rabbit hole. I tend to spend more time fooling around with my system than I save by automating it haha. Kind of like BBSing. Always "fixing" something that doesn't need fixing.
So IYOO, what would you recommend for putting Linux on a tablet then?
Now? Either try to find a gently used Nexus 10 or pony up for the MS
Surface Go. That or put one together with a Raspberry Pi. That's
probably the cheapest option.
Now that we are completely off topic :-P ... I've been slowly building mine using RPi's. What voice command will you use with RPi? I wrote
mine called gizmo in php, but it relies a little on Google Voice api (it arecords a sound file piped via flac, etc then curls the response from
On 02 Dec 2019, Mortifis said the following...
Now that we are completely off topic :-P ... I've been slowly building mine using RPi's. What voice command will you use with RPi? I wrote mine called gizmo in php, but it relies a little on Google Voice api (it arecords a sound file piped via flac, etc then curls the response from
I've been looking at Ada. Fairly new voice assistant project for Home Assistant. Only issue there is that any microphone I plug into my pi's is not going to be nearly as good as what's in Google and Amazon's equipment. I used to use MS Voice recognition and SAPI as support for that is built in to Homeseer, but once I realized how much better the recognition was in Alexa I dumped it. Keeping stuff local and private is part of my end game though which is why I am looking at Ada.
The Raspberry Pi is a very good option. Though you might be able to get a used x86 system for a similar price, but will use more power from the wall. Getting DOS doors on Pi is going to take some jumping through hoops, and may just want to use DoorParty as a remote option.
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Raspberry Pi does look pretty cool but I like tablets more. No wires just a charger.
On 12-03-19 20:40, The Millionaire wrote to Tracker1 <=-
The Raspberry Pi is a very good option. Though you might be able to get a used x86 system for a similar price, but will use more power from the wall. Getting DOS doors on Pi is going to take some jumping through hoops, and may just want to use DoorParty as a remote option.
Raspberry Pi does look pretty cool but I like tablets more. No wires
just a charger.
Here's a case of the best tool for the job. A tablet is not a good tool to run a BBS on, while a Pi is quite a good tool to do so.
On 12-06-19 00:45, Netsurge wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Here's a case of the best tool for the job. A tablet is not a good tool to run a BBS on, while a Pi is quite a good tool to do so.
The same argument can be made towards the original poster: The right
tool for the job.
Re: Linux Tablets With Synchronet?
By: The Millionaire to All on Fri Nov 29 2019 06:03 pm
Is there a real Linux tablet out there that just runs Linux only wit Synchronet?
As far as I know, there is no tablet that runs a plain Linux distro. Tablets that aren't Apple-based or Microsoft based are normally Android-based. Android does have Linux at its base, but of course, they have the Android UI and support the Android ecosystem. If you root an Android tablet though, you should be able to access the Linux system via and such. But that depends on whether you want to root the device or not
There is AnLinux app that is basically an Android VM that allows Linux to be installed and run without needing to root the device, though I do not recomm it. https://github.com/EXALAB/Anlinux-App
Personally, I believe in using the proper tool for the job, and a bbs on a
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