• @-codes

    From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, September 19, 2019 05:20:03
    Hey DM, how about @-codes for the following:

    1. Total files in File Area (eg. there are 12 files in Comm dir)
    2. Total file area size (eg. there is 670 mb in Comm dir)

    Just a suggestion here.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Thursday, September 19, 2019 11:34:57
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 05:20 am

    Hey DM, how about @-codes for the following:

    1. Total files in File Area (eg. there are 12 files in Comm dir)
    2. Total file area size (eg. there is 670 mb in Comm dir)

    Just a suggestion here.

    How would "Comm dir" be specified to the @-code? Via argument (e.g. @tfile:comm@) or just use the "current" directory that the user previous changed to? I'm not clear how it'd be used (e.g. in a prompt, a menu file, or waht).

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, September 19, 2019 11:41:04
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 05:20 am

    How would "Comm dir" be specified to the @-code? Via argument (e.g. @tfile:comm@) or just use the "current" directory that the user previous changed to? I'm not clear how it'd be used (e.g. in a prompt, a menu file, or waht).

    digital man

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    Ignore comm dir for a moment. That was part of an example.

    Tfile:areasize
    Tfile:areanum

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, September 19, 2019 11:45:29
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 05:20 am

    How would "Comm dir" be specified to the @-code? Via argument (e.g. @tfile:comm@) or just use the "current" directory that the user previous changed to? I'm not clear how it'd be used (e.g. in a prompt, a menu file, or waht).

    digital man

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    Let's say for example:

    There are 12 files in the graphics file area.
    @-code for # of files in file area.

    There is 670 mb total in the graphics file area.
    @-code for # of total number of megabytes in the file area.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to The Millionaire on Thursday, September 19, 2019 11:50:00
    Let's say for example:

    There are 12 files in the graphics file area.
    @-code for # of files in file area.

    There is 670 mb total in the graphics file area.
    @-code for # of total number of megabytes in the file area.

    This is how I would do it on ansi:

    There are @NUMFILES@ in the graphics file area which totals @FAREASIZE@.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Thursday, September 19, 2019 14:16:13
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 11:41 am


    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 05:20 am

    How would "Comm dir" be specified to the @-code? Via argument (e.g. @tfile:comm@) or just use the "current" directory that the user previous changed to? I'm not clear how it'd be used (e.g. in a prompt, a menu file, or waht).

    Ignore comm dir for a moment. That was part of an example.

    Tfile:areasize
    Tfile:areanum

    Which area?

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Thursday, September 19, 2019 14:17:03
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 11:45 am


    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 05:20 am

    How would "Comm dir" be specified to the @-code? Via argument (e.g. @tfile:comm@) or just use the "current" directory that the user previous changed to? I'm not clear how it'd be used (e.g. in a prompt, a menu file, or waht).

    Let's say for example:

    There are 12 files in the graphics file area.
    @-code for # of files in file area.

    There is 670 mb total in the graphics file area.
    @-code for # of total number of megabytes in the file area.

    Okay, again, how is the "graphics file area" specified in the @-code? As a parameter or just the fact that's it's the "current" file area that the user selected?

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, September 19, 2019 18:15:04
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 11:45 am

    Okay, again, how is the "graphics file area" specified in the @-code? As a parameter or just the fact that's it's the "current" file area that the user selected?

    digital man

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    @NUMFILES@ = Total number of files in file area
    @FILE_AREA_SIZE@ = Total number of bytes/kbytes/megabytes/gigabytes in file area

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  • From blueboy46464@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thursday, September 19, 2019 17:22:39
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    Okay, again, how is the "graphics file area" specified in the @-code? As a parameter or just the fact that's it's the "current" file area that the user selected?
    digital man
    It's not. It's just used as an example. The @-code would be the # of files hence @NUMFILES@.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Thursday, September 19, 2019 18:37:00
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 06:15 pm


    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 11:45 am

    Okay, again, how is the "graphics file area" specified in the @-code? As a parameter or just the fact that's it's the "current" file area that the user selected?

    @NUMFILES@ = Total number of files in file area

    That sounds like the existing @tfile@ code. If you mean a specific directory - again I ask: how is the directory (the file area) specified?

    Would @tfile:<code>@ suffice? Where <code> is the internal code of the area you want to display the total files contained within?

    @FILE_AREA_SIZE@ = Total number of bytes/kbytes/megabytes/gigabytes in file area

    Would @tbytes:<code>@ suffice?



    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to blueboy46464 on Thursday, September 19, 2019 18:38:23
    Re: @-codes
    By: blueboy46464 to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Sep 19 2019 05:22 pm

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    Okay, again, how is the "graphics file area" specified in the @-code? As a parameter or just the fact that's it's the "current" file area that the user selected?

    It's not. It's just used as an example. The @-code would be the # of files hence @NUMFILES@.

    <sigh>

    So are you wanting to display the total files in a *specific* area (directory) or the total files in a the user's currently selected directory?

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, September 19, 2019 18:43:38
    Re: @-codes
    By: blueboy46464 to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Sep 19 2019 05:22 pm

    <sigh>

    So are you wanting to display the total files in a *specific* area (directory) or the total files in a the user's currently selected directory?

    digital man

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    Yes I want to tell the user in the ansi:

    There are @NUMFILES@ files which total @FILE_AREA_SIZE@ in file area.
    There are 12 files which total 670 mb in file area.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, September 19, 2019 18:50:22
    Is it easy to write an @-code?

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, September 19, 2019 18:58:06
    I just looked at atcodes.cpp and it looks difficult.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Thursday, September 19, 2019 19:12:02
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 06:43 pm


    Re: @-codes
    By: blueboy46464 to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Sep 19 2019 05:22 pm

    <sigh>

    So are you wanting to display the total files in a *specific* area (directory) or the total files in a the user's currently selected directory?

    Yes I want to tell the user in the ansi:

    There are @NUMFILES@ files which total @FILE_AREA_SIZE@ in file area.
    There are 12 files which total 670 mb in file area.

    Okay, so the question still remains: in *which* file area (directory) are you want to tell the user those details?

    A. A specific directory which you (the sysop) specify, i.e. as part of the @-code
    B. The user's currently selected directory

    Choose one: A or B, which are you asking for?

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Thursday, September 19, 2019 19:13:09
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 06:50 pm

    Is it easy to write an @-code?

    I don't understand the question. If you're asking if it's easy to add an @-code to the C/C++ source of Synchronet, yes, pretty easy. It does depend on what the @-code is actually going to do/expand-to.

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, September 19, 2019 19:58:45
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 06:43 pm

    Okay, so the question still remains: in *which* file area (directory) are you want to tell the user those details?

    A. A specific directory which you (the sysop) specify, i.e. as part of the @-code
    B. The user's currently selected directory

    Choose one: A or B, which are you asking for?

    digital man

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    B. The user's currently selected directory.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, September 19, 2019 20:09:06
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Sep 19 2019 06:50 pm

    I don't understand the question. If you're asking if it's easy to add an @-code to the C/C++ source of Synchronet, yes, pretty easy. It does depend on what the @-code is actually going to do/expand-to.

    digital man

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    Ok here's the deal here:

    @NUMFILES@ would have a value of 0 - 10,000 (always can be increased) @FILE_AREA_SIZE@ would have a value of 0 - 10,000 bytes/kB/mb/gb (also can be increased)
    A shortened version would be nicer like 100 mb for example.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to The Millionaire on Thursday, September 19, 2019 20:38:03
    1 out of 2 ain't bad though DM. Thank you very much anyways. Kudos! :-)

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to The Millionaire on Friday, September 20, 2019 09:55:56
    Hey DM, how about @-codes for the following:

    1. Total files in File Area (eg. there are 12 files in Comm dir)
    2. Total file area size (eg. there is 670 mb in Comm dir)

    Just a suggestion here.


    What if the file is less than 1K like 790 bytes? Then is it rounded off to 1K?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Friday, September 20, 2019 10:21:12
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to The Millionaire on Fri Sep 20 2019 09:55 am

    What if the file is less than 1K like 790 bytes? Then is it rounded off to 1K?

    It looks like Digital Man added a code called FILEBYTES that will report file size in bytes if you want to see that.

    Though if there are such @-codes, it might be handy to have one that automatically chooses a representation - For example, if less than 1K, then show it in bytes; if above 1K but below 1MB, then show in kilobytes; if at least 1MB but below a GB, then show in MB, etc..

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Friday, September 20, 2019 12:07:38
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to The Millionaire on Fri Sep 20 2019 09:55 am


    Hey DM, how about @-codes for the following:

    1. Total files in File Area (eg. there are 12 files in Comm dir)
    2. Total file area size (eg. there is 670 mb in Comm dir)

    Just a suggestion here.


    What if the file is less than 1K like 790 bytes? Then is it rounded off to 1K?

    Experiment and see and let me know.

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Friday, September 20, 2019 12:08:37
    Re: @-codes
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Fri Sep 20 2019 10:21 am

    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to The Millionaire on Fri Sep 20 2019 09:55 am

    What if the file is less than 1K like 790 bytes? Then is it rounded off to 1K?

    It looks like Digital Man added a code called FILEBYTES that will report file size in bytes if you want to see that.

    Though if there are such @-codes, it might be handy to have one that automatically chooses a representation - For example, if less than 1K, then show it in bytes; if above 1K but below 1MB, then show in kilobytes; if at least 1MB but below a GB, then show in MB, etc..

    What you're describing is the (new) FILESIZE @-code.

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to The Millionaire on Friday, September 20, 2019 13:16:11
    I love all of your @-codes, DM. They are superb work and if you or I find anymore that needs to be added, I'll be there to support you on them either way. Thank you so very much from the bottom of my heart. :-)

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Friday, September 20, 2019 13:19:19
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to The Millionaire on Fri Sep 20 2019 01:16 pm

    I love all of your @-codes, DM. They are superb work and if you or I find anymore that needs to be added, I'll be there to support you on them either way. Thank you so very much from the bottom of my heart. :-)

    You're welcome.

    I'm working on an enhancement to optionally add thousands-separators (e.g. commas) to any numeric @-codes.

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Friday, September 20, 2019 13:24:04
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to The Millionaire on Fri Sep 20 2019 01:16 pm

    You're welcome.

    I'm working on an enhancement to optionally add thousands-separators (e.g. commas) to any numeric @-codes.

    digital man

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    That's going to be a lot of work. But it's a good idea though. Keep up the
    good work! :-)

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Friday, September 20, 2019 14:42:51
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Sep 20 2019 01:24 pm


    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to The Millionaire on Fri Sep 20 2019 01:16 pm

    You're welcome.

    I'm working on an enhancement to optionally add thousands-separators (e.g. commas) to any numeric @-codes.

    That's going to be a lot of work. But it's a good idea though. Keep up the good work! :-)

    Nah, not that hard. The main thing was supporting an alternate format modifier syntax so that you can have multiple format modifiers (e.g. right-justified *and* thousands-separators) and combine format modfiers with arguments (e.g. @filesize:path/filename@).

    Right now, I have the new/alternate format modifier as a pipe (|) symbol followed by one or more modifiers (i.e. L, R, C, Z, etc.) followed by an optional length value. Still deciding if I like that syntax.

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Friday, September 20, 2019 15:23:59
    Re: @-codes
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Sep 20 2019 01:24 pm

    Nah, not that hard. The main thing was supporting an alternate format modifier syntax so that you can have multiple format modifiers (e.g. right-justified *and* thousands-separators) and combine format modfiers with arguments (e.g. @filesize:path/filename@).

    Right now, I have the new/alternate format modifier as a pipe (|) symbol followed by one or more modifiers (i.e. L, R, C, Z, etc.) followed by an optional length value. Still deciding if I like that syntax.

    digital man

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    How about only using 1 @ code instead of 2
    For example: @BBSNAME instead of @BBSNAME@

    Or would that even be possible? Just a suggestion. Might cut down on room on multiple @-codes used on one line in an ansi file.

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Friday, September 20, 2019 21:06:16
    On 2019 Sep 20 14:42:50, you wrote to The Millionaire:

    Right now, I have the new/alternate format modifier as a pipe (|)
    symbol followed by one or more modifiers (i.e. L, R, C, Z, etc.)
    followed by an optional length value. Still deciding if I like that syntax.

    ahhhhhhhh... this sounds exquisite! like it eliminates the reentry/looping problem when trying to do something like

    @center@@foo-l........@@bar-r10@

    kinda stuff?? or will that still not be able to be done so the line is centered
    on any width terminal? that's one thing that i miss as some of my screens are centered but not where i have to use -L and -R modifiers to make nice columns... so i had to do them for 80 column screens and suffer looking at yuck
    when using my 200+ column terminal...

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to The Millionaire on Friday, September 20, 2019 21:12:02
    On 2019 Sep 20 15:23:58, you wrote to Digital Man:

    How about only using 1 @ code instead of 2 For example: @BBSNAME
    instead of @BBSNAME@

    Or would that even be possible? Just a suggestion. Might cut down on room on multiple @-codes used on one line in an ansi file.

    that shouldn't be any problem... one can easily switch to an editor that doesn't wordwrap and manually edit the ANSI to place the codes where desired...
    ANSI editors have no clue about these macros so they cannot even begin to substitute for them... all of my screens that use @-codes are manually edited because of this reason and i suspect most all other operators do the same...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to mark lewis on Saturday, September 21, 2019 01:59:28
    Re: @-codes
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Fri Sep 20 2019 09:06 pm


    On 2019 Sep 20 14:42:50, you wrote to The Millionaire:

    Right now, I have the new/alternate format modifier as a pipe (|) symbol followed by one or more modifiers (i.e. L, R, C, Z, etc.) followed by an optional length value. Still deciding if I like that syntax.

    ahhhhhhhh... this sounds exquisite! like it eliminates the reentry/looping problem when trying to do something like

    @center@@foo-l........@@bar-r10@

    kinda stuff??

    No, I don't have any solution for nesting @-codes.

    or will that still not be able to be done so the line is
    centered on any width terminal?

    Nope, I don't have any solution for that.

    that's one thing that i miss as some of my
    screens are centered but not where i have to use -L and -R modifiers to make nice columns... so i had to do them for 80 column screens and suffer looking at yuck when using my 200+ column terminal...

    JavaScript, baby. :-)

    digital man

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Digital Man on Saturday, September 21, 2019 11:28:26
    Re: @-codes
    By: Digital Man to mark lewis on Sat Sep 21 2019 01:59:28

    that's one thing that i miss as some of my
    screens are centered but not where i have to use -L and -R modifiers to make nice columns... so i had to do them for 80 column screens and suffer looking at yuck when using my 200+ column terminal...

    JavaScript, baby. :-)

    so executing a .js from within an asc/msg file? like server side includes on web servers? will that also work with sbbs' web server? :thinking:


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Rampage on Saturday, September 21, 2019 10:48:14
    Re: @-codes
    By: Rampage to Digital Man on Sat Sep 21 2019 11:28 am

    Re: @-codes
    By: Digital Man to mark lewis on Sat Sep 21 2019 01:59:28

    that's one thing that i miss as some of my
    screens are centered but not where i have to use -L and -R modifiers to make nice columns... so i had to do them for 80 column screens and suffer looking at yuck when using my 200+ column terminal...

    JavaScript, baby. :-)

    so executing a .js from within an asc/msg file?

    That is possible using @exec:@

    like server side includes on
    web servers? will that also work with sbbs' web server? :thinking:

    Likely not, but the web server code is ususally JS to start with, so you don't really need to rely on some weird embedding to execute JS.

    digital man

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