Hello everybody!

Is there any mechanism in Synchronet for users to /IGNORE or
filter messages from other users? I'd suspect there are lots of
situations in which a user many not want to see messages from
certain people. For example, if certain person is annoying or
unreasonable, but not enough to warrant asking a sysop for a
ban.

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To: Arelor
Re: Message / User filtering
By: Arelor to All on Mon Aug 26 2019 07:34 am

Is there any mechanism in Synchronet for users to /IGNORE or
filter messages from other users? I'd suspect there are lots of
situations in which a user many not want to see messages from
certain people. For example, if certain person is annoying or
unreasonable, but not enough to warrant asking a sysop for a

Sure is. Just edit your twitlist.cfg in your sbbs/crtl directory.

Add the users name or email or both. Whatever

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Arelor to All on Mon Aug 26 2019 07:34 am

Is there any mechanism in Synchronet for users to /IGNORE or
filter messages from other users? I'd suspect there are lots of
situations in which a user many not want to see messages from
certain people. For example, if certain person is annoying or unreasonable, but not enough to warrant asking a sysop for a
ban.

Are you talking about ignoring chat messages from other nodes, or messages posted on the sub-board? If it's messages from other nodes, Synchronet allows users to toggle whether to allow paging, which I think toggles whether they can be bothered by chat messages from other nodes. It has been a while since I used it though.

There's also the twit list, but that amounts to the sysop putting a ban in place, which you said isn't enough..

Nightfox

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: HusTler to Arelor on Mon Aug 26 2019 11:00 am

Is there any mechanism in Synchronet for users to /IGNORE or
filter messages from other users? I'd suspect there are lots of
situations in which a user many not want to see messages from
certain people. For example, if certain person is annoying or
unreasonable, but not enough to warrant asking a sysop for a

Sure is. Just edit your twitlist.cfg in your sbbs/crtl directory.

Add the users name or email or both. Whatever

That pretty much amounts to asking the sysops for a ban, which he said isn't what he wanted. I'm wondering if he meant chat messages from users on other nodes, and I believe Synchronet has a way to let users ignore those. Synchronet has a setting that lets users disallow paging, which I think might let users ignore messages from other nodes.

Nightfox

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: HusTler to Arelor on Mon Aug 26 2019 11:00 am

Sure is. Just edit your twitlist.cfg in your sbbs/crtl directory.

Add the users name or email or both. Whatever

I was asking from the user point of view. When browsing the
Usenet, for example, you would rather add trolls to your personal
filter rather than ask the newsmaster to ban a post, unless it
was very, very bad.

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Mon Aug 26 2019 10:13 am

Are you talking about ignoring chat messages from other nodes, or messages posted on the sub-board? If it's messages from other nodes, Synchronet

I was thinking about ignoring messages in a sub-board.

Example user case: Somebody in some sub that is always sharing
information about some disease he has in his feet, and posts an
update everyday. I would not ban a person like this, but if I
find his feet uninteresting, I would like to filter this person
out so his feet updates don't pollute my New Messages scan.

Actual user case that prompted me to ask this question:
Somebody in the Fidonet -> Politics Unlimited sub is
disrespectful and I would say he is there to pick up fights
rather than have a healthy talk, but I don't think it is bad
enough for a total ban. Which means I'd like to have the option
to ignore sub messages from him without involving a sysop.

There's also the twit list, but that amounts to the sysop putting a ban in place, which you said isn't enough..

The twit list sounds like overkill to me.

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Nightfox to HusTler on Mon Aug 26 2019 10:14 am

Is there any mechanism in Synchronet for users to /IGNORE or
filter messages from other users? I'd suspect there are lots of

Sure is. Just edit your twitlist.cfg in your sbbs/crtl directory.

That pretty much amounts to asking the sysops for a ban, which he said isn't what he wanted. I'm wondering if he meant chat messages from users on other nodes, and I believe Synchronet has a way to let users ignore those. Synchronet has a setting that lets users disallow paging, which I think might let users ignore messages from other nodes.

I assumed he was a SysOp. I also thought he meant messages. Not chat. My bad. Can I get an attaboy for at least trying? Geez..what was I thinking??

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Arelor to HusTler on Mon Aug 26 2019 10:48 am

I was asking from the user point of view. When browsing the
Usenet, for example, you would rather add trolls to your personal
filter rather than ask the newsmaster to ban a post, unless it
was very, very bad.

As as a BBS user I don't know of a way you could block users without asking the SysOp when using a Synchronet BBS. As a SysOp I wouldn't feel comfortable with that but I see what your getting at. You mean like how you can block certain email addresses in some email programs? Now that I think of it. That should be an option in a BBS reader. That would be a personal preference or setting. It would only work on the BBS you set it up on. Maybe you could make a request and the programmers could add a "block user option". I'm not a programmer so I don't know. It sounds like a good topic for discussion though. ;-)

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Mon Aug 26 2019 10:58:44

I was thinking about ignoring messages in a sub-board.

Do you want User A to be able to ignore User B in Sub-Board A while still seeing their messages in Sub-Board B? Or do you want User A to be able to globally ignore User B (not see any messages User B posts in any sub-board)?

Actual user case that prompted me to ask this question:
Somebody in the Fidonet -> Politics Unlimited sub is
disrespectful and I would say he is there to pick up fights
rather than have a healthy talk, but I don't think it is bad
enough for a total ban. Which means I'd like to have the option
to ignore sub messages from him without involving a sysop.

Unhelpful answer: if you're going to read a "Politics" discussion board anywhere on the internet, you'd better be ready to eat some shit. :D

Could be useful, if used sparingly - and better if it's left in the user's hands rather than affecting everyone on the BBS.

This could be implemented by individual message readers, but probably best if done by the BBS itself so that it just works everywhere (terminal, web, NNTP, etc.)

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: HusTler to Nightfox on Mon Aug 26 2019 01:53 pm

I assumed he was a SysOp. I also thought he meant messages. Not chat. My bad. Can I get an attaboy for at least trying? Geez..what was I thinking??

I think you're over-reacting again.
I think he is a sysop, but he was asking about a per-user setting so that if someone is bothering one of his users, the user could ignore someone.

Nightfox

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Arelor to All on Mon Aug 26 2019 07:34 am

Hello everybody!

Is there any mechanism in Synchronet for users to /IGNORE or
filter messages from other users? I'd suspect there are lots of
situations in which a user many not want to see messages from
certain people. For example, if certain person is annoying or
unreasonable, but not enough to warrant asking a sysop for a
ban.

A user can turn off node-paging/messages from the Chat: menu. If by "messages" you mean posts and email, no, there's no user-mechanism to filter ("twit-filter") those messages.

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Arelor to All on Mon Aug 26 2019 07:34 am

Hello everybody!

Is there any mechanism in Synchronet for users to /IGNORE or
filter messages from other users? I'd suspect there are lots of
situations in which a user many not want to see messages from
certain people. For example, if certain person is annoying or
unreasonable, but not enough to warrant asking a sysop for a
ban.

not yet, but they can have a twit filter in their offline reader.

it's not really a big problem.
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Re: Message / User filtering
By: HusTler to Arelor on Mon Aug 26 2019 11:00 am

From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

To: Arelor
Re: Message / User filtering
By: Arelor to All on Mon Aug 26 2019 07:34 am

Is there any mechanism in Synchronet for users to /IGNORE or
filter messages from other users? I'd suspect there are lots of situations in which a user many not want to see messages from
certain people. For example, if certain person is annoying or unreasonable, but not enough to warrant asking a sysop for a

Sure is. Just edit your twitlist.cfg in your sbbs/crtl directory.

Add the users name or email or both. Whatever

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Mon Aug 26 2019 10:58 am

posted on the sub-board? If it's messages from other nodes, Synchronet

I was thinking about ignoring messages in a sub-board.

Example user case: Somebody in some sub that is always sharing
information about some disease he has in his feet, and posts an
update everyday. I would not ban a person like this, but if I
find his feet uninteresting, I would like to filter this person
out so his feet updates don't pollute my New Messages scan.

there's something like this in the todo list.
the jas hud filter improvement
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Re: Message / User filtering
By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Aug 26 2019 04:28 pm

Is there any mechanism in Synchronet for users to /IGNORE or
filter messages from other users? I'd suspect there are lots of
situations in which a user many not want to see messages from
certain people. For example, if certain person is annoying or
unreasonable, but not enough to warrant asking a sysop for a
ban.

not yet, but they can have a twit filter in their offline reader.

IF the user is using an offline reader.. I don't think Synchronet allows what they want when a user is logged in reading messages.

it's not really a big problem.

For you maybe not, but some users might want to be able to do that.

Nightfox

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: echicken to Arelor on Mon Aug 26 2019 03:32 pm

Do you want User A to be able to ignore User B in Sub-Board A while still seeing their messages in Sub-Board B? Or do you want User A to be able to globally ignore User B (not see any messages User B posts in any sub-board)?

Ideally you would have filtering capabilities like those in the
TIN nntp client. For those who are not familiar with it, you
decide who to ignore and where. Maybe the guy who is telling you
about his feet in General has awesoem things to say in Firearms.

That said, more often than not, if some user is a time waster it
is usually better to /IGNORE him globally.

Unhelpful answer: if you're going to read a "Politics" discussion board anywhere on the internet, you'd better be ready to eat some shit. :D

I know, I know. In fact the main reason to read those groups is
to have fun with the flamewars. But some users are not god as
either debaters or trolls, which imo makes them boring and
/IGNOREable.

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Nightfox to HusTler on Mon Aug 26 2019 12:51 pm

I think he is a sysop, but he was asking about a per-user setting so that if someone is bothering one of his users, the user could ignore someone.

Nightfox

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Digital Man to Arelor on Mon Aug 26 2019 01:39 pm

A user can turn off node-paging/messages from the Chat: menu. If by "messages" you mean posts and email, no, there's no user-mechanism to filter ("twit-filter") those messages.

Thank you very much for this information.

BY the way, I like this BBS very much. Nice flamming and fun.

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Aug 26 2019 04:28 pm

not yet, but they can have a twit filter in their offline reader.

it's not really a big problem.

I am a new to this, but I suppose you mean I could download the
messages to my own local storage and use a message reader of my
choosing (which does not sound like a bad idea).

Do you know of any minimalistic reader for Linux or OpenBSD that
may offer filters?

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Aug 26 2019 03:18 pm

not yet, but they can have a twit filter in their offline reader.

IF the user is using an offline reader.. I don't think Synchronet allows wh

OBVIOUSLY.

it's not really a big problem.

For you maybe not, but some users might want to be able to do that.

then they can use a twit filter in their offline reader.
also lets not pretend we have users.
we dont
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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Arelor to echicken on Mon Aug 26 2019 03:58 pm

Ideally you would have filtering capabilities like those in the
TIN nntp client. For those who are not familiar with it, you

that's good because you can access some bbses' msg bases via nntp.
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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Arelor to MRO on Mon Aug 26 2019 04:08 pm

Re: Message / User filtering
By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Aug 26 2019 04:28 pm

not yet, but they can have a twit filter in their offline reader.

it's not really a big problem.

I am a new to this, but I suppose you mean I could download the
messages to my own local storage and use a message reader of my
choosing (which does not sound like a bad idea).

Do you know of any minimalistic reader for Linux or OpenBSD that
may offer filters?

the only offline reader i know of offhand is multimail.
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MRO wrote to Arelor <=-

Is there any mechanism in Synchronet for users to /IGNORE or
filter messages from other users? I'd suspect there are lots of
situations in which a user many not want to see messages from
certain people. For example, if certain person is annoying or
unreasonable, but not enough to warrant asking a sysop for a
ban.

not yet, but they can have a twit filter in their offline reader.

Well, maybe. Not all offline readers have that feature.

it's not really a big problem.

Perhaps not to you, but it could be for someone else.


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Well I should would love to block users and messages from annoying people too. It would be a major asset to me.

$ The Millionaire $

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Well I should would love to block users and messages from annoying
people too. It would be a major asset to me.

Pot, meet kettle.

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Pot, meet kettle.

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Look who's calling the kettle black.

$ The Millionaire $

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Mon Aug 26 2019 10:13 am

I was thinking about ignoring messages in a sub-board.

Example user case: Somebody in some sub that is always sharing
information about some disease he has in his feet, and posts an
update everyday. I would not ban a person like this, but if I
find his feet uninteresting, I would like to filter this person
out so his feet updates don't pollute my New Messages scan.

Actual user case that prompted me to ask this question:
Somebody in the Fidonet -> Politics Unlimited sub is
disrespectful and I would say he is there to pick up fights
rather than have a healthy talk, but I don't think it is bad
enough for a total ban. Which means I'd like to have the option
to ignore sub messages from him without involving a sysop.

The twit list sounds like overkill to me.

talking about your feet is completely crazy to me.

$ The Millionaire $

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Hey DM, do you have a country blocking system in Synchronet like Mystic does?

$ The Millionaire $

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Sep 01 2019 07:22 pm

Hey DM, do you have a country blocking system in Synchronet like Mystic does?

You can block hostnames, like *.ru, in text/host.can or IP address ranges using wildcards and CIDR (<IP>/<prefixlength>) notation in text/ip.can. So effectively, yes.

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Good to hear because I want to block these bozos who are aggravating me on here.

$ The Millionaire $

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I was doing some research and found out these remailers are not completely untraceable. Which is good news.

$ The Millionaire $

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"The Millionaire" <the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-d82-this> wrote:

To: Digital Man
Good to hear because I want to block these bozos who are aggravating me on here.

Weren't you supposed to get your hacker 'friends' to out them?
LOL!

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Re: Message / User filtering
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Sep 01 2019 19:31:00

Good to hear because I want to block these bozos who are aggravating me on here.

you can only block them on YOUR system when you get one set up... but the thing is, why do you think they'll be coming to your system? if someone were really after you, you could end up blocking most all of the 'net depending on how resourceful they are... they're only doing it because they see it gets a rise out of you...

just ignore them and hit the next key... don't respond at all...


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Re: Message / User filtering
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Sep 01 2019 20:12:45

I was doing some research and found out these remailers are not completely untraceable. Which is good news.

they're not supposed to be untracable... their purpose is to anonymize the poster's identity... anonymous remailers have been around since the '90s... they do a good job for what their intended purpose is...


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The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

Good to hear because I want to block these bozos who are
aggravating me on here.

Well maybe if you actually ever run Synchronet you'll be able to
do that.



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