• Updating Synchronet

    From Jeffs@VERT/TWISTED to All on Monday, August 19, 2019 12:23:39
    Hello There,

    In attempting to do a fresh install of SBBS on a new install of Ubuntu
    v19.4. I get the following response when running make:

    "No rule to make target 'cntnodes.bin', needed by 'all'. Stop."

    This is after following the non-cvs instructions:


    # wget ftp://vert.synchro.net/Synchronet/sbbs_src.tgz
    # wget ftp://vert.synchro.net/Synchronet/sbbs_run.tgz
    # tar -xzf sbbs_src.tgz
    # tar -xzf sbbs_run.tgz
    # cd /sbbs/src/sbbs3; make RELEASE=1
    # cd /sbbs/xtrn/sbj; make
    # cd /sbbs/exec
    # ln -s ../src/sbbs3/gcc.*.exe.release/* .
    # ln -s ../src/sbbs3/*/gcc.*.exe.release/* .
    # make

    The only change I needed to make was changing the "cd" paths from
    /sbbs/... to /home/sbbs/...

    When I run the make statement I get the "No target" response mentioned above

    My hope was to end up with a current (Daily) install of Synchronet.
    If I do a CVS install then Synchronet will install but the executables will not be current (As in newest).

    It is usually simply a case of me missing a step. But I can't see what I might of missed.


    Jeff

    Jeff

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Twisted Balloon
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Jeffs on Monday, August 19, 2019 13:32:06
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Jeffs to All on Mon Aug 19 2019 12:23 pm

    Hello There,

    In attempting to do a fresh install of SBBS on a new install of Ubuntu v19.4. I get the following response when running make:

    "No rule to make target 'cntnodes.bin', needed by 'all'. Stop."

    This is after following the non-cvs instructions:


    # wget ftp://vert.synchro.net/Synchronet/sbbs_src.tgz
    # wget ftp://vert.synchro.net/Synchronet/sbbs_run.tgz
    # tar -xzf sbbs_src.tgz
    # tar -xzf sbbs_run.tgz
    # cd /sbbs/src/sbbs3; make RELEASE=1
    # cd /sbbs/xtrn/sbj; make
    # cd /sbbs/exec
    # ln -s ../src/sbbs3/gcc.*.exe.release/* .
    # ln -s ../src/sbbs3/*/gcc.*.exe.release/* .
    # make

    The only change I needed to make was changing the "cd" paths from
    /sbbs/... to /home/sbbs/...

    When I run the make statement I get the "No target" response mentioned above

    So there are 3 "make statements" in the list of instructions above. Which gave you "No target"?

    The last make is in the exec directory and that's where the "cntnodes.bin" error would've come from. Most likely, because the earlier make in src/sbbs3 failed to build. That make must succeed before you can continue on with the remaining steps.


    My hope was to end up with a current (Daily) install of Synchronet.
    If I do a CVS install then Synchronet will install but the executables will not be current (As in newest).

    I don't follow. Getting the source from CVS is actually *newer* than getting it from the tgz files which are only updated nightly, at the most frequent.

    It is usually simply a case of me missing a step. But I can't see what I might of missed.

    Not sure, but I suspect you need to rerun this line:
    cd /sbbs/src/sbbs3; make RELEASE=1

    ... before you can run "make" in exec.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #83:
    XPDEV = Cross-platform Development
    Norco, CA WX: 84.0øF, 51.0% humidity, 5 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From mark lewis@VERT to Jeffs on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 09:24:10
    On 2019 Aug 19 12:23:38, you wrote to All:

    My hope was to end up with a current (Daily) install of Synchronet. If
    I do a CVS install then Synchronet will install but the executables
    will not be current (As in newest).

    i'm fairly sure that someone will have already pointed out that the CVS files are the newest... the daily archives may be behind up to 24 hours or so...

    you and others may be interested in these two scripts of mine...

    complete sbbs update script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/32e7eb8c

    sbbs bare metal install script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/540a657b

    i think they're still the latest... i should probably put them up in my repo so
    modifications to them can be easier tracked... they've been developed over several years...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
    ... We are the very model of cartoon individuals.
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to mark lewis on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 06:46:17
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: mark lewis to Jeffs on Tue Aug 20 2019 09:24 am


    On 2019 Aug 19 12:23:38, you wrote to All:

    My hope was to end up with a current (Daily) install of Synchronet. If I do a CVS install then Synchronet will install but the executables will not be current (As in newest).

    i'm fairly sure that someone will have already pointed out that the CVS files are the newest... the daily archives may be behind up to
    24
    hours or so...

    you and others may be interested in these two scripts of mine...

    complete sbbs update script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/32e7eb8c

    sbbs bare metal install script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/540a657b

    i think they're still the latest... i should probably put them up in my repo so
    modifications to them can be easier tracked... they've been developed over several years...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... We are the very model of cartoon individuals.

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do manually. tiring too. fingers get sore as well.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From mark lewis@VERT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 10:16:56
    On 2019 Aug 20 06:46:16, you wrote to me:

    you and others may be interested in these two scripts of mine...

    complete sbbs update script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/32e7eb8c

    sbbs bare metal install script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/540a657b

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do manually. tiring too. fingers get sore as well.

    why??? what would a script do? the update script already automatically pulls text.dat and compares it with the currently installed one... i see no need for a text.dat specific script at all... besides, these scripts won't do you any good on winwhatever anyway...

    you pop out these quick short online responses/posts and that's all we get... there's a dearth of information/reasoning/explanation lacking with them... so i
    ask again, what would you expect a text.dat script to do and why?? i don't understand what "so much work" you are speaking of... the synchronet installs i've worked with have never modified the text.dat file...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
    ... "Am I ever wrong?... Marriages don't count." - Al Calavicci
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 10:30:33
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to mark lewis on Tue Aug 20 2019 06:46:17

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do manually. tiring too.
    fingers get sore as well.

    If such a script existed, what would you want it to do, exactly?

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to mark lewis on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 10:53:52
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:16 am


    On 2019 Aug 20 06:46:16, you wrote to me:

    you and others may be interested in these two scripts of mine...

    complete sbbs update script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/32e7eb8c

    sbbs bare metal install script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/540a657b

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do manually. tiring too. fingers get sore as well.

    why??? what would a script do? the update script already automatically pulls text.dat and compares it with the currently installed
    one... i
    see no need for a text.dat specific script at all... besides, these scripts won't do you any good on winwhatever anyway...

    you pop out these quick short online responses/posts and that's all we get... there's a dearth of information/reasoning/explanation
    lacking
    with them... so i
    ask again, what would you expect a text.dat script to do and why?? i don't understand what "so much work" you are speaking of... the
    synchronet installs i've worked with have never modified the text.dat file...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... "Am I ever wrong?... Marriages don't count." - Al Calavicci

    dont you have problems reading some of the dark colors? i know i do. that is why i re-colorize it so i can read it easier.

    $ The Millionaire $

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    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to echicken on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 10:56:02
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: echicken to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:30 am

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to mark lewis on Tue Aug 20 2019 06:46:17

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do manually. tiring too. fingers get sore as well.

    If such a script existed, what would you want it to do, exactly?

    help me colorize the file easily and simply. 800+ lines is a lot to sift through.

    $ The Millionaire $

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    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 13:57:55
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:56:02

    help me colorize the file easily and simply. 800+ lines is a lot to sift through.

    This is what using Find & Replace in a text editor would be good for.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to echicken on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 11:08:19
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: echicken to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 01:57 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:56:02

    help me colorize the file easily and simply. 800+ lines is a lot to sift through.

    This is what using Find & Replace in a text editor would be good for.

    only 1 problem the colors are used in different places. i want to assign them.

    $ The Millionaire $

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    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 15:20:05
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Tue Aug 20 2019 11:08:19

    only 1 problem the colors are used in different places. i want to assign them.

    In this scenario, if it's not compatible with find-and-replace then it's probably not scriptable either.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    þ Synchronet þ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 15:17:07
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to mark lewis on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:53 am

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:16 am


    On 2019 Aug 20 06:46:16, you wrote to me:

    you and others may be interested in these two scripts of mine...

    complete sbbs update script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/32e7eb8c

    sbbs bare metal install script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/540a657b

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do manually. tiring too. fingers get sore as well.

    why??? what would a script do? the update script already automatically pulls text.dat and compares it with the currently installed one... i
    see no need for a text.dat specific script at all... besides, these scripts won't do you any good on winwhatever anyway...

    you pop out these quick short online responses/posts and that's all we get... there's a dearth of information/reasoning/explanation lacking with them... so i
    ask again, what would you expect a text.dat script to do and why?? i don't understand what "so much work" you are speaking of... the synchronet installs i've worked with have never modified the text.dat file...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... "Am I ever wrong?... Marriages don't count." - Al Calavicci

    dont you have problems reading some of the dark colors? i know i do. that is why i re-colorize it so i can read it easier.

    Are you visually impaired? If so, it seems you'd want to make the adjustment on the client-side, not the server side. Unless you expect all of your users to have the exact same impairment.

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #15:
    Review on "Shark Sandwich", merely a two word review: "Shit Sandwich".
    Norco, CA WX: 89.7øF, 36.0% humidity, 11 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 15:45:11
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 03:17 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to mark lewis on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:53 am

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:16 am


    On 2019 Aug 20 06:46:16, you wrote to me:

    you and others may be interested in these two scripts of mine...

    complete sbbs update script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/32e7eb8c

    sbbs bare metal install script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/540a657b

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do manually. tiring too. fingers get sore as well.

    why??? what would a script do? the update script already automatically pulls text.dat and compares it with the currently installed
    one... i
    see no need for a text.dat specific script at all... besides, these scripts won't do you any good on winwhatever anyway...

    you pop out these quick short online responses/posts and that's all we get... there's a dearth of
    information/reasoning/explanation
    lacking with them... so i
    ask again, what would you expect a text.dat script to do and why?? i don't understand what "so much work" you are speaking of...
    the
    synchronet installs i've worked with have never modified the text.dat file...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... "Am I ever wrong?... Marriages don't count." - Al
    Calavicci

    dont you have problems reading some of the dark colors? i know i do. that is why i re-colorize it so i can read it easier.

    Are you visually impaired? If so, it seems you'd want to make the adjustment on the client-side, not the server side. Unless you expect
    all
    of your users to have the exact same impairment.

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #15:
    Review on "Shark Sandwich", merely a two word review: "Shit Sandwich". Norco, CA WX: 89.7øF, 36.0% humidity, 11 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    i use \1b\1h, \1c\1h, \1y\1h, and \1w\1h so how that can be visual impairment? you use those same colors on your login.

    $ The Millionaire $

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    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 16:42:42
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Aug 20 2019 03:45 pm

    t you have problems reading some of the dark colors? i know i do.
    that is why i re-colorize it so i can read it easier.

    u visually impaired? If so, it seems you'd want to make the
    adjustment on the client-side, not the server side. Unless you
    expect > all your users to have the exact same impairment.

    i use \1b\1h, \1c\1h, \1y\1h, and \1w\1h so how that can be visual impairment? you use those same colors on your login.

    You said earlier that you have problems reading some of the dark colors and that's why you wante dto re-colorize your text.dat. DM was making the point that if you have a visual impairment, it would be better to change things on the client side for you specifically, rather than change things on your BBS for all your users (who may not have the same problems viewing the colors).

    Nightfox

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    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 16:48:58
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Aug 20 2019 03:45 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 03:17 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to mark lewis on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:53 am

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:16 am


    On 2019 Aug 20 06:46:16, you wrote to me:

    you and others may be interested in these two scripts of mine...

    complete sbbs update script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/32e7eb8c

    sbbs bare metal install script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/540a657b

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do manually. tiring too. fingers get sore as well.

    why??? what would a script do? the update script already automatically pulls text.dat and compares it with the currently installed one... i see no need for a text.dat specific script at all... besides, these scripts won't do you any good on winwhatever anyway...

    you pop out these quick short online responses/posts and that's all we get... there's a dearth of information/reasoning/explanation lacking with them... so i
    ask again, what would you expect a text.dat script to do and why?? i don't understand what "so much work" you are speaking of... the synchronet installs i've worked with have never modified the text.dat file...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... "Am I ever wrong?... Marriages don't count." - Al Calavicci

    dont you have problems reading some of the dark colors? i know i do. that is why i re-colorize it so i can read it easier.

    Are you visually impaired? If so, it seems you'd want to make the adjustment on the client-side, not the server side. Unless you expect all of your users to have the exact same impairment.

    i use \1b\1h, \1c\1h, \1y\1h, and \1w\1h so how that can be visual impairment? you use those same colors on your login.

    Those are high-intensity (bright) colors. You suggested that you might have problems reading some of "the dark colors". Typically only dark blue is difficult for the average user to read, so I avoid using that color for text. But the other normal-intensity (dark) colors are normally easy to read. That's why I asked if you had a visual impairment.

    Perhaps you just need to turn up the screen brightness on your iPad?

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #34:
    GIF = Graphics Interchange Format (pronounced "JIFF")
    Norco, CA WX: 89.5øF, 29.0% humidity, 13 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 17:31:19
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 04:48 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Aug 20 2019 03:45 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 03:17 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to mark lewis on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:53 am

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:16 am


    On 2019 Aug 20 06:46:16, you wrote to me:

    you and others may be interested in these two scripts of mine...

    complete sbbs update script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/32e7eb8c

    sbbs bare metal install script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/540a657b

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do manually. tiring too. fingers get sore as well.

    why??? what would a script do? the update script already automatically pulls text.dat and compares it with the currently
    installed one... i see no need for a text.dat specific script at all... besides, these scripts won't do you any good on
    winwhatever anyway...

    you pop out these quick short online responses/posts and that's all we get... there's a dearth of
    information/reasoning/explanation lacking with them... so i
    ask again, what would you expect a text.dat script to do and why?? i don't understand what "so much work" you are speaking
    of...
    the synchronet installs i've worked with have never modified the text.dat file...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... "Am I ever wrong?... Marriages don't count."
    -
    Al Calavicci

    dont you have problems reading some of the dark colors? i know i do. that is why i re-colorize it so i can read it easier.

    Are you visually impaired? If so, it seems you'd want to make the adjustment on the client-side, not the server side. Unless you
    expect all of your users to have the exact same impairment.

    i use \1b\1h, \1c\1h, \1y\1h, and \1w\1h so how that can be visual impairment? you use those same colors on your login.

    Those are high-intensity (bright) colors. You suggested that you might have problems reading some of "the dark colors". Typically only
    dark
    blue is difficult for the average user to read, so I avoid using that color for text. But the other normal-intensity (dark) colors are
    normally easy to read. That's why I asked if you had a visual impairment.

    Perhaps you just need to turn up the screen brightness on your iPad?

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #34:
    GIF = Graphics Interchange Format (pronounced "JIFF")
    Norco, CA WX: 89.5øF, 29.0% humidity, 13 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    the colors you use on text.dat file that are hard for me to read are:

    \1b = dark blue
    \1g = dark green
    \1m = dark purple
    \1r = dark red
    \1y = dark yellow


    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 18:17:01
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Aug 20 2019 05:31 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 04:48 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Aug 20 2019 03:45 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 03:17 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to mark lewis on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:53 am

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:16 am


    On 2019 Aug 20 06:46:16, you wrote to me:

    you and others may be interested in these two scripts of mine...

    complete sbbs update script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/32e7eb8c

    sbbs bare metal install script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/540a657b

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do manually. tiring too. fingers get sore as well.

    why??? what would a script do? the update script already automatically pulls text.dat and compares it with the currently installed one... i see no need for a text.dat specific script at all... besides, these scripts won't do you any good on winwhatever anyway...

    you pop out these quick short online responses/posts and that's all we get... there's a dearth of information/reasoning/explanation lacking with them... so i ask again, what would you expect a text.dat script to do and why?? i don't understand what "so much work" you are speaking of...
    the synchronet installs i've worked with have never modified the text.dat file...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... "Am I ever wrong?... Marriages don't count." - Al Calavicci

    dont you have problems reading some of the dark colors? i know i do. that is why i re-colorize it so i can read it easier.

    Are you visually impaired? If so, it seems you'd want to make the adjustment on the client-side, not the server side. Unless you expect all of your users to have the exact same impairment.

    i use \1b\1h, \1c\1h, \1y\1h, and \1w\1h so how that can be visual impairment? you use those same colors on your login.

    Those are high-intensity (bright) colors. You suggested that you might have problems reading some of "the dark colors". Typically only dark
    blue is difficult for the average user to read, so I avoid using that color for text. But the other normal-intensity (dark) colors are normally easy to read. That's why I asked if you had a visual impairment.

    Perhaps you just need to turn up the screen brightness on your iPad?

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #34:
    GIF = Graphics Interchange Format (pronounced "JIFF")
    Norco, CA WX: 89.5øF, 29.0% humidity, 13 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    the colors you use on text.dat file that are hard for me to read are:

    \1b = dark blue
    \1g = dark green
    \1m = dark purple
    \1r = dark red
    \1y = dark yellow

    I don't use dark blue, dark red, or dark yellow for text. I use the high-intensity (bright) versions of those colors, but not the dark ones, that I know of.

    This is dark green. If that is hard to read, then I think that's a problem partcular to you or your client software/device.

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #25:
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 18:20:16
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 06:17 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Aug 20 2019 05:31 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 04:48 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Aug 20 2019 03:45 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 03:17 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to mark lewis on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:53 am

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:16 am


    On 2019 Aug 20 06:46:16, you wrote to me:

    you and others may be interested in these two scripts of mine...

    complete sbbs update script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/32e7eb8c

    sbbs bare metal install script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/540a657b

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do manually. tiring too. fingers get sore as well.

    why??? what would a script do? the update script already automatically pulls text.dat and compares it with the
    currently
    installed one... i see no need for a text.dat specific script at all... besides, these scripts won't do you any good
    on
    winwhatever anyway...

    you pop out these quick short online responses/posts and that's all we get... there's a dearth of
    information/reasoning/explanation lacking with them... so i ask again, what would you expect a text.dat script to do
    and
    why?? i don't understand what "so much work" you are speaking of...
    the synchronet installs i've worked with have never modified the text.dat file...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... "Am I ever wrong?... Marriages don't
    count." - Al Calavicci

    dont you have problems reading some of the dark colors? i know i do. that is why i re-colorize it so i can read it easier.

    Are you visually impaired? If so, it seems you'd want to make the adjustment on the client-side, not the server side. Unless
    you
    expect all of your users to have the exact same impairment.

    i use \1b\1h, \1c\1h, \1y\1h, and \1w\1h so how that can be visual impairment? you use those same colors on your login.

    Those are high-intensity (bright) colors. You suggested that you might have problems reading some of "the dark colors". Typically
    only
    dark
    blue is difficult for the average user to read, so I avoid using that color for text. But the other normal-intensity (dark) colors
    are
    normally easy to read. That's why I asked if you had a visual impairment.

    Perhaps you just need to turn up the screen brightness on your iPad?

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #34:
    GIF = Graphics Interchange Format (pronounced "JIFF")
    Norco, CA WX: 89.5øF, 29.0% humidity, 13 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    the colors you use on text.dat file that are hard for me to read are:

    \1b = dark blue
    \1g = dark green
    \1m = dark purple
    \1r = dark red
    \1y = dark yellow

    I don't use dark blue, dark red, or dark yellow for text. I use the high-intensity (bright) versions of those colors, but not the dark
    ones,
    that I know of.

    This is dark green. If that is hard to read, then I think that's a problem partcular to you or your client software/device.

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #25:
    Viv Savage: Have... a good... time... all the time. That's my philosophy. Norco, CA WX: 86.2øF, 36.0% humidity, 10 mph ENE wind, 0.00
    inches
    rain/24hrs

    you're using \1bBy: and \1bRe:

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 19:07:35
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Aug 20 2019 06:20 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 06:17 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Aug 20 2019 05:31 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 04:48 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Aug 20 2019 03:45 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 03:17 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to mark lewis on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:53 am

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:16 am


    On 2019 Aug 20 06:46:16, you wrote to me:

    you and others may be interested in these two scripts of mine...

    complete sbbs update script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/32e7eb8c

    sbbs bare metal install script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/540a657b

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do manually. tiring too. fingers get sore as well.

    why??? what would a script do? the update script already automatically pulls text.dat and compares it with the currently
    installed one... i see no need for a text.dat specific script at all... besides, these scripts won't do you any good on
    winwhatever anyway...

    you pop out these quick short online responses/posts and that's all we get... there's a dearth of information/reasoning/explanation lacking with them... so i ask again, what would you expect a text.dat script to do and
    why?? i don't understand what "so much work" you are speaking of...
    the synchronet installs i've worked with have never modified the text.dat file...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... "Am I ever wrong?... Marriages don't count." - Al Calavicci

    dont you have problems reading some of the dark colors? i know i do. that is why i re-colorize it so i can read it easier.

    Are you visually impaired? If so, it seems you'd want to make the adjustment on the client-side, not the server side. Unless you
    expect all of your users to have the exact same impairment.

    i use \1b\1h, \1c\1h, \1y\1h, and \1w\1h so how that can be visual impairment? you use those same colors on your login.

    Those are high-intensity (bright) colors. You suggested that you might have problems reading some of "the dark colors". Typically only
    dark
    blue is difficult for the average user to read, so I avoid using that color for text. But the other normal-intensity (dark) colors are normally easy to read. That's why I asked if you had a visual impairment.

    Perhaps you just need to turn up the screen brightness on your iPad?

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #34:
    GIF = Graphics Interchange Format (pronounced "JIFF")
    Norco, CA WX: 89.5øF, 29.0% humidity, 13 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    the colors you use on text.dat file that are hard for me to read are:

    \1b = dark blue
    \1g = dark green
    \1m = dark purple
    \1r = dark red
    \1y = dark yellow

    I don't use dark blue, dark red, or dark yellow for text. I use the high-intensity (bright) versions of those colors, but not the dark ones, that I know of.

    This is dark green. If that is hard to read, then I think that's a problem partcular to you or your client software/device.

    you're using \1bBy: and \1bRe:

    Here's the full text.dat string to which I think you're referring:
    " \1h\1bRe\1n\1b: \1h\1c%s\r\n "\
    "\1bBy\1n\1b: \1h\1c%s \1bon \1c%s\1n\r\n\r\n"

    See those "\1h" *before* the "\1b"? That means "high intensity" (bright). So any and all colors that come after the "\1h" will be bright versions of those colors until a "\1n" (or "\1_" or "\1-") code is sent.

    So the only dark blue in those text line are the colons (":") after the "Re" and "By" strings.

    Here's the reference:
    http://wiki.synchro.net/custom:ctrl-a_codes

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #85:
    The ZMODEM file transfer protocol is limited to files of 4 gigabytes or smaller.
    Norco, CA WX: 82.7øF, 46.0% humidity, 13 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to mark lewis on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:37:00
    On 08-20-19 09:24, mark lewis wrote to Jeffs <=-

    you and others may be interested in these two scripts of mine...

    complete sbbs update script
    https://paste.linux-help.org/view/32e7eb8c

    Interesting. I'm way overdue to upgrade too. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to echicken on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:39:00
    On 08-20-19 13:57, echicken wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:56:02

    help me colorize the file easily and simply. 800+ lines is a lot to sift
    through.

    This is what using Find & Replace in a text editor would be good for.

    Under Linux, simple, but repetitive mods could be done using sed, but one would want to make a backup and extensively test!


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to echicken on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:40:00
    On 08-20-19 15:20, echicken wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Tue Aug 20 2019 11:08:19

    only 1 problem the colors are used in different places. i want to assign
    them.

    In this scenario, if it's not compatible with find-and-replace then
    it's probably not scriptable either.

    Unless one can come up with a simple ruleset to assign colours, etc, I can't see it being scriptable.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 23:30:27
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:56 am

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: echicken to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 10:30 am

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to mark lewis on Tue Aug 20 2019 06:46:17

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do manually tiring too. fingers get sore as well.

    If such a script existed, what would you want it to do, exactly?

    help me colorize the file easily and simply. 800+ lines is a lot to sift through.



    i already did that for you and i linked it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to echicken on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 23:32:16
    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: echicken to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 20 2019 03:20 pm

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: The Millionaire to echicken on Tue Aug 20 2019 11:08:19

    only 1 problem the colors are used in different places. i want to assig them.

    In this scenario, if it's not compatible with find-and-replace then it's probably not scriptable either.


    i changed text.dat per his instructions and linked it.
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  • From mark lewis@VERT to The Millionaire on Thursday, August 22, 2019 22:31:24
    On 2019 Aug 20 10:53:52, you wrote to me:

    wish there was a script for the text.dat so much work to do
    manually. tiring too. fingers get sore as well.

    why??? what would a script do? the update script already
    automatically pulls text.dat and compares it with the currently
    installed one... i see no need for a text.dat specific script at
    all... besides, these scripts won't do you any good on winwhatever
    anyway...

    you pop out these quick short online responses/posts and that's all
    we get... there's a dearth of information/reasoning/explanation
    lacking with them... so i ask again, what would you expect a text.dat
    script to do and why?? i don't understand what "so much work" you
    are speaking of... the synchronet installs i've worked with have
    never modified the text.dat file...

    dont you have problems reading some of the dark colors? i know i do.

    no, i don't... my screen is generally bright enough... if it isn't, i adjust it
    or the lighting until i can see it more easily...

    that is why i re-colorize it so i can read it easier.

    i remember my father's comment after his cataract surgery... "i didn't remember
    the sky being so blue"...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
    ... Never play strip poker with a nudist, they have nothing to lose.
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  • From Jeff Smith@VERT to Digital Man on Monday, August 19, 2019 15:23:22
    Hello Digital,

    Re: Updating Synchronet
    By: Jeffs to All on Mon Aug 19 2019 12:23 pm
    Hello There,

    In attempting to do a fresh install of SBBS on a new install of Ubuntu
    v19.4. I get the following response when running make:

    "No rule to make target 'cntnodes.bin', needed by 'all'. Stop."

    This is after following the non-cvs instructions:


    # wget ftp://vert.synchro.net/Synchronet/sbbs_src.tgz
    # wget ftp://vert.synchro.net/Synchronet/sbbs_run.tgz
    # tar -xzf sbbs_src.tgz
    # tar -xzf sbbs_run.tgz
    # cd /sbbs/src/sbbs3; make RELEASE=1
    # cd /sbbs/xtrn/sbj; make
    # cd /sbbs/exec
    # ln -s ../src/sbbs3/gcc.*.exe.release/* .
    # ln -s ../src/sbbs3/*/gcc.*.exe.release/* .
    # make

    When I run the make statement I get the "No target" response mentioned above

    So there are 3 "make statements" in the list of instructions above. Which gave
    you "No target"?

    The last make statement resulted in the no target response.

    The last make is in the exec directory and that's where the "cntnodes.bin" error would've come from. Most likely, because the earlier make in src/sbbs3 failed to build. That make must succeed before you can continue on with the remaining steps.

    I didn't notice any errors as a result of the two previous make statements.

    My hope was to end up with a current (Daily) install of Synchronet.
    If I do a CVS install then Synchronet will install but the executables will >> not be current (As in newest).

    I don't follow. Getting the source from CVS is actually *newer* than getting i
    from the tgz files which are only updated nightly, at the most frequent.

    That was my initial assumption also. But did some reading on the subject and noticed dialog on people updating the SBBS modules individually.

    Previously (About a month ago) I did a CVS install of Synchronet on the Ubuntu PC and it installed v3.17b. Which included SBBSECHO v3.06. My plan was to update
    SBBSECHO, Etc to the current v3.08? version(s).

    Not sure, but I suspect you need to rerun this line:
    cd /sbbs/src/sbbs3; make RELEASE=1
    ... before you can run "make" in exec.

    I have since did a restore of the SBBS root directory which restored Synchronet
    to a functioning v3.17b. I will try the SBBS install again on another spare Ubuntu PC that I have here. And will let you know the good/bad results.

    Jeff

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