• \r\n in text.dat file

    From The Millionaire@VERT to digital man on Saturday, August 03, 2019 16:07:57
    hi dm. would you be able to run the text.dat w/o the \r\n in Synchronet?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 04, 2019 00:11:53
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Sat Aug 03 2019 04:07 pm

    hi dm. would you be able to run the text.dat w/o the \r\n in Synchronet?

    You want to remove carriage-returns and line-feeds from the text.dat file? Sure, that's possible. You probably don't want to remove *all* of them.

    digital man

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Sunday, August 04, 2019 03:23:25
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:11 am

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Sat Aug 03 2019 04:07 pm

    hi dm. would you be able to run the text.dat w/o the \r\n in Synchronet?

    You want to remove carriage-returns and line-feeds from the text.dat file? Sure, that's possible. You probably don't want to remove *all*
    of
    them.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #79:
    XJS = External JavaScript (SSJS embedded within HTML/CSS)
    Norco, CA WX: 71.5F, 64.0% humidity, 0 mph SSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    and how about the \1n too?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 04, 2019 03:46:14
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:23 am

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:11 am

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Sat Aug 03 2019 04:07 pm

    hi dm. would you be able to run the text.dat w/o the \r\n in Synchronet?

    You want to remove carriage-returns and line-feeds from the text.dat file? Sure, that's possible. You probably don't want to remove *all* of them.

    and how about the \1n too?

    That's a Ctrl-AN (normal attributes). You can remove them if you like. <shrug>

    digital man

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 04, 2019 10:17:32
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:23:25

    and how about the \1n too?

    dude, are you trying to strip everything out so that you only have plain white ASCII? \1 is CTRL-A so \1n resets the color settings to normal...

    )\/(ark

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Rampage on Sunday, August 04, 2019 12:49:44
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Rampage to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 10:17 am

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:23:25

    and how about the \1n too?

    dude, are you trying to strip everything out so that you only have plain white ASCII? \1 is CTRL-A so \1n resets the color settings to
    normal...

    )\/(ark

    dude, when you're editing the file all those little things get in the way for me so i rry to keep it as basic as possible.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 04, 2019 15:30:45
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:23 am

    and how about the \1n too?


    do you even know what any of these things do?

    are you even working on your bbs?

    are you just asking questions for no reason?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 04, 2019 15:32:54
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:49 pm

    dude, when you're editing the file all those little things get in the way for me so i rry to keep it as basic as possible.


    just make your own text.dat from scratch.
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to MRO on Sunday, August 04, 2019 17:15:25
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:30 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:23 am

    and how about the \1n too?


    do you even know what any of these things do?

    are you even working on your bbs?

    are you just asking questions for no reason?

    well the text file got updated recently which pushed me back a little.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to MRO on Sunday, August 04, 2019 17:17:04
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:32 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:49 pm

    dude, when you're editing the file all those little things get in the way for me so i rry to keep it as basic as possible.


    just make your own text.dat from scratch.

    if i did all i would have is colors and words. no extra characters lying around.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Rampage on Sunday, August 04, 2019 17:23:35
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Rampage to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 10:17 am

    and how about the \1n too?

    dude, are you trying to strip everything out so that you only have plain white ASCII? \1 is CTRL-A so \1n resets the color settings to normal...

    And you don't really need to strip those codes anyway. If a user is using a non-ANSI terminal, Synchronet will strip those out automatically.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 04, 2019 17:25:12
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:49 pm

    dude, are you trying to strip everything out so that you only have
    plain white ASCII? \1 is CTRL-A so \1n resets the color settings to
    normal...

    dude, when you're editing the file all those little things get in the way for me so i rry to keep it as basic as possible.

    If you remove all of those because they "get in the way" for you, you'll end up having a lot more plain white/grey text on your BBS. But if that's the look you're going for, more power to you.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sunday, August 04, 2019 17:26:58
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:30 pm

    and how about the \1n too?

    do you even know what any of these things do?

    are you even working on your bbs?

    are you just asking questions for no reason?

    I don't think he has bought a computer yet to run a BBS on, so he hasn't seen the effects of making these changes yet.

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Sunday, August 04, 2019 18:18:38
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 05:25 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:49 pm

    dude, are you trying to strip everything out so that you only have
    plain white ASCII? \1 is CTRL-A so \1n resets the color settings to
    normal...

    dude, when you're editing the file all those little things get in the way for me so i rry to keep it as basic as possible.

    If you remove all of those because they "get in the way" for you, you'll end up having a lot more plain white/grey text on your BBS. But
    if
    that's the look you're going for, more power to you.

    Nightfox

    i would add color codes too but nothing else.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Sunday, August 04, 2019 18:20:34
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Aug 04 2019 05:26 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:30 pm

    and how about the \1n too?

    do you even know what any of these things do?

    are you even working on your bbs?

    are you just asking questions for no reason?

    I don't think he has bought a computer yet to run a BBS on, so he hasn't seen the effects of making these changes yet.

    Nightfox

    park avenue place coming soon in fall 2019.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 04, 2019 19:40:38
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sun Aug 04 2019 05:17 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:32 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:49 pm

    dude, when you're editing the file all those little things get in the way for me so i rry to keep it as basic as possible.


    just make your own text.dat from scratch.

    if i did all i would have is colors and words. no extra characters lying around.

    These "extra characters" (e.g. \1) are what produce the colors: http://wiki.synchro.net/custom:ctrl-a_codes

    digital man

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 04, 2019 21:50:40
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sun Aug 04 2019 05:17 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:32 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:49 pm

    dude, when you're editing the file all those little things get in the way for me so i rry to keep it as basic as possible.


    just make your own text.dat from scratch.

    if i did all i would have is colors and words. no extra characters lying around.


    do you want me to make you a stripped text.dat? you do need the \r\n for carriage returns.

    https://pastebin.com/fJLtWxM2
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sunday, August 04, 2019 21:52:10
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Aug 04 2019 05:26 pm

    I don't think he has bought a computer yet to run a BBS on, so he hasn't seen the effects of making these changes yet.



    well then he's being an askhole
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Sunday, August 04, 2019 21:27:33
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 07:40 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sun Aug 04 2019 05:17 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:32 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:49 pm

    dude, when you're editing the file all those little things get in the way for me so i rry to keep it as basic as possible.


    just make your own text.dat from scratch.

    if i did all i would have is colors and words. no extra characters lying around.

    These "extra characters" (e.g. \1) are what produce the colors: http://wiki.synchro.net/custom:ctrl-a_codes

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #7:
    BinkP = BinkD Protocol
    Norco, CA WX: 81.9F, 46.0% humidity, 9 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    no im talking about things like \1n or \1i or \1?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 04, 2019 21:32:51
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Aug 04 2019 09:27 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 07:40 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sun Aug 04 2019 05:17 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:32 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:49 pm

    dude, when you're editing the file all those little things get in the way for me so i rry to keep it as basic as possible.


    just make your own text.dat from scratch.

    if i did all i would have is colors and words. no extra characters lying around.

    These "extra characters" (e.g. \1) are what produce the colors: http://wiki.synchro.net/custom:ctrl-a_codes

    no im talking about things like \1n or \1i or \1?

    \1n is Ctrl-A/N (normal/lightgray color)
    \1i is blinking attribute
    \1? is a conditional new-line

    These codes are in there for a reason. If you're modifying a text.dat file without actually seeing where/how its used in the BBS, I think you'lll be in for a big surprise when you see how it actually looks when used.

    You seem to be browsing the text.dat looking for things to change. That is backwards. Instead, you should be browsing your BBS looking for things you want to change and then if that thing happens to be in the text.dat, change it then. Not before.

    digital man

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Sunday, August 04, 2019 21:05:00
    The Millionaire wrote to MRO <=-

    do you even know what any of these things do?

    are you even working on your bbs?

    are you just asking questions for no reason?

    well the text file got updated recently which pushed me back a
    little.

    That doesn't answer ANY of the questions that were asked.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Sunday, August 04, 2019 21:08:00
    Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:30 pm

    do you even know what any of these things do?
    are you even working on your bbs?
    are you just asking questions for no reason?

    I don't think he has bought a computer yet to run a BBS on, so he
    hasn't seen the effects of making these changes yet.

    It really is kind of a strange deal here... A guy *OBSESSED* with
    text.dat, who doesn't run a BBS or even own a computer.

    I don't think you could make this stuff up if you tried... :-)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Millionaire on Monday, August 05, 2019 00:15:54
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Aug 04 2019 09:27 pm

    Norco, CA WX: 81.9F, 46.0% humidity, 9 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24

    no im talking about things like \1n or \1i or \1?

    $ The Millionaire $


    those are important control characters. you should read the documentation.

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to The Millionaire on Monday, August 05, 2019 04:03:32
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sun Aug 04 2019 17:17:04

    just make your own text.dat from scratch.

    if i did all i would have is colors and words. no extra characters lying around.

    there are no ""extra characters""... some of that stuff you're talking about taking out *are* the colors...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to The Millionaire on Monday, August 05, 2019 04:10:15
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Aug 04 2019 21:27:33

    just make your own text.dat from scratch.
    if i did all i would have is colors and words. no extra characters lying around.
    These "extra characters" (e.g. \1) are what produce the colors: http://wiki.synchro.net/custom:ctrl-a_codes
    no im talking about things like \1n or \1i or \1?

    those are not ""extra characters""... they have a specific purpose... again, \1 is CTRL-A... did you read the wiki page DM pointed you to, above??

    )\/(ark

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, August 05, 2019 06:29:02
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sun Aug 04 2019 06:20 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Aug 04 2019 05:26 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:30 pm

    and how about the \1n too?

    do you even know what any of these things do?

    are you even working on your bbs?

    are you just asking questions for no reason?

    I don't think he has bought a computer yet to run a BBS on, so he hasn't seen the effects of making these changes yet.

    Nightfox

    park avenue place coming soon in fall 2019.

    $ The Millionaire $

    read my message above again.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Digital Man on Monday, August 05, 2019 07:55:00
    Digital Man wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    These "extra characters" (e.g. \1) are what produce the colors: http://wiki.synchro.net/custom:ctrl-a_codes

    no im talking about things like \1n or \1i or \1?

    \1n is Ctrl-A/N (normal/lightgray color)
    \1i is blinking attribute
    \1? is a conditional new-line

    These codes are in there for a reason. If you're modifying a
    text.dat file without actually seeing where/how its used in the
    BBS, I think you'lll be in for a big surprise when you see how it
    actually looks when used.

    You seem to be browsing the text.dat looking for things to
    change. That is backwards. Instead, you should be browsing your
    BBS looking for things you want to change and then if that thing
    happens to be in the text.dat, change it then. Not before.

    Well..... he's got to *HAVE* a BBS first, before he can browse
    it... Solid logic and reasoning do not seem to work on "The
    Millionaire".

    You are a patient man... :-)


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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Gamgee on Monday, August 05, 2019 07:42:49
    Re: Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Mon Aug 05 2019 07:55 am

    Digital Man wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    These "extra characters" (e.g. \1) are what produce the colors: http://wiki.synchro.net/custom:ctrl-a_codes

    no im talking about things like \1n or \1i or \1?

    \1n is Ctrl-A/N (normal/lightgray color)
    \1i is blinking attribute
    \1? is a conditional new-line

    These codes are in there for a reason. If you're modifying a
    text.dat file without actually seeing where/how its used in the
    BBS, I think you'lll be in for a big surprise when you see how it actually looks when used.

    You seem to be browsing the text.dat looking for things to
    change. That is backwards. Instead, you should be browsing your
    BBS looking for things you want to change and then if that thing happens to be in the text.dat, change it then. Not before.

    Well..... he's got to *HAVE* a BBS first, before he can browse
    it... Solid logic and reasoning do not seem to work on "The
    Millionaire".

    You are a patient man... :-)


    ... Internal Error: The system has been taken over by sheep at line 19960

    ok you want to talk about logic? let's start with recording engineering, shall we? do you even know what a trident series 65 is or a studer a-800 or a lexicon prime time delay is? because when you do, look me up then we'll talk. google it if you have to. i took a course in this field so i don't have to.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Monday, August 05, 2019 10:01:54
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Mon Aug 05 2019 06:29 am

    I don't think he has bought a computer yet to run a BBS on, so he
    hasn't seen the effects of making these changes yet.

    park avenue place coming soon in fall 2019.

    read my message above again.

    What? You replied to your own message and directed it toward me, and I'm not sure what you're trying to say now. Why do you want me to read your above message again?

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, August 05, 2019 10:53:34
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Mon Aug 05 2019 10:01 am

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Mon Aug 05 2019 06:29 am

    I don't think he has bought a computer yet to run a BBS on, so he
    hasn't seen the effects of making these changes yet.

    park avenue place coming soon in fall 2019.

    read my message above again.

    What? You replied to your own message and directed it toward me, and I'm not sure what you're trying to say now. Why do you want me to
    read your above message again?

    Nightfox

    sorry wrong person.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to digital man on Monday, August 05, 2019 13:51:45
    why do some lines have them and others dont?

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to The Millionaire on Monday, August 05, 2019 17:02:10
    On 2019 Aug 05 13:51:44, you wrote to digital man:

    why do some lines have them and others dont?

    because they're part of a prompt or line and not a complete line on their own... this is why you should be running a BBS first so you can see these things before you start modifying them blindly ;)

    )\/(ark

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    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
    ... You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinio
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Millionaire on Monday, August 05, 2019 17:09:22
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Mon Aug 05 2019 01:51 pm

    why do some lines have them and others dont?


    come on now, dude. stop it with the dumb questions.
    read the documentation.
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to mark lewis on Monday, August 05, 2019 15:13:31
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Mon Aug 05 2019 05:02 pm


    On 2019 Aug 05 13:51:44, you wrote to digital man:

    why do some lines have them and others dont?

    because they're part of a prompt or line and not a complete line on their own... this is why you should be running a BBS first so you
    can
    see these things before you start modifying them blindly ;)

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set
    them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. ... You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinio

    well im trying to kill some time till i do so i started this project.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to MRO on Monday, August 05, 2019 15:16:08
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Mon Aug 05 2019 05:09 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Mon Aug 05 2019 01:51 pm

    why do some lines have them and others dont?


    come on now, dude. stop it with the dumb questions.
    read the documentation.

    come on now dude. stop it with the dumb answers.
    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to The Millionaire on Monday, August 05, 2019 18:49:57
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to mark lewis on Mon Aug 05 2019 15:13:31

    well im trying to kill some time till i do so i started this project.

    DM had a very good point earlier. You're going about this backwards. Wait until you have your BBS set
    up, look for prompts, etc. that you would like to change, then alter them. When you're in a position to
    do it that way, it'll be more obvious to you what happens when, say, \r\n is removed, or when you dick
    around with CTRL-A codes.

    In the meantime, maybe draw some graphics or something that is more doable without a working BBS to test
    it against.

    It's great that you're enthusiastic about setting up your system, but a lot of these questions are
    self-answering once you're in a position to poke around at stuff.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Monday, August 05, 2019 16:17:29
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to mark lewis on Mon Aug 05 2019 03:13 pm

    because they're part of a prompt or line and not a complete line on
    their own... this is why you should be running a BBS first so you can
    see these things before you start modifying them blindly ;)

    well im trying to kill some time till i do so i started this project.

    It might be a better use of time to read over the Synchronet documentation. Once you see your text.dat modifications working on your BBS, you're likely to want to tweak and change it more to look just how you want. Trying to make a lot of changes to your text.dat set up now before you can use it seems like it would be somewhat of a waste of time. Also, there's a LOT more that goes into customizing a Synchronet BBS than just modifying text.dat.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dan Clough@VERT to The Millionaire on Monday, August 05, 2019 18:27:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

    These codes are in there for a reason. If you're modifying a
    text.dat file without actually seeing where/how its used in the
    BBS, I think you'lll be in for a big surprise when you see how it actually looks when used.

    You seem to be browsing the text.dat looking for things to
    change. That is backwards. Instead, you should be browsing your
    BBS looking for things you want to change and then if that thing happens to be in the text.dat, change it then. Not before.

    Well..... he's got to *HAVE* a BBS first, before he can browse
    it... Solid logic and reasoning do not seem to work on "The
    Millionaire".

    ok you want to talk about logic? let's start with recording
    engineering, shall we? do you even know what a trident series 65
    is or a studer a-800 or a lexicon prime time delay is? because
    when you do, look me up then we'll talk. google it if you have
    to. i took a course in this field so i don't have to.

    LOL!!! Oh, you took a course, eh?

    What you stated there above has absolutely *NOTHING* to do with
    "logic". Nothing at all, period. Maybe you should take a course
    on logic, too.

    Asking technical questions means nothing. I work on linear
    particle accelerators for a living. Care to have a debate about
    nuclear physics?

    Please, seriously, think about the questions you're asking. DM is
    very patient and tries to answer your questions, but... many of
    them really are quite silly. Especially when nearly every single
    one of them concerns the details of "text.dat". That is near the
    bottom of the list in importance of ANY file involved in SBBS.

    Could you make me a "mix tape" of my favorite tunes from the 80's?


    ... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Monday, August 05, 2019 17:32:37
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Mon Aug 05 2019 01:51 pm

    why do some lines have them and others dont?

    Some text.dat strings are multiple-lines, so they may have multiple sets of carriage-return/line-feeds. If you *use* the BBS and experiment with changes of the text.dat (e.g. adding/removing \r\n's), it'll be obvious why.

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to The Millionaire on Monday, August 05, 2019 17:35:41
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Mon Aug 05 2019 03:16 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Mon Aug 05 2019 05:09 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Mon Aug 05 2019 01:51 pm

    why do some lines have them and others dont?


    come on now, dude. stop it with the dumb questions.
    read the documentation.

    come on now dude. stop it with the dumb answers.

    I'm curious why some of your messages have that 0x8D () character. Any idea why?

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #62:
    Name of Synchronet PCMS compiler/language "Baja" was coined by Michael Swindell.
    Norco, CA WX: 89.5F, 35.0% humidity, 14 mph NNE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, August 05, 2019 20:15:01
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Mon Aug 05 2019 04:17 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to mark lewis on Mon Aug 05 2019 03:13 pm

    because they're part of a prompt or line and not a complete line on
    their own... this is why you should be running a BBS first so you can
    see these things before you start modifying them blindly ;)

    well im trying to kill some time till i do so i started this project.

    It might be a better use of time to read over the Synchronet documentation. Once you see your text.dat modifications working on your
    BBS,
    you're likely to want to tweak and change it more to look just how you want. Trying to make a lot of changes to your text.dat set up now
    before you can use it seems like it would be somewhat of a waste of time. Also, there's a LOT more that goes into customizing a
    Synchronet
    BBS than just modifying text.dat.

    Nightfox

    ive ran one before nf. it was last running in 2013. took a 6 year hiatus and decided to return to what i had missed. i have so much catch up to do now.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Dan Clough on Monday, August 05, 2019 20:17:08
    Re: Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Dan Clough to The Millionaire on Mon Aug 05 2019 06:27 pm

    The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

    These codes are in there for a reason. If you're modifying a text.dat file without actually seeing where/how its used in the
    BBS, I think you'lll be in for a big surprise when you see how it actually looks when used.

    You seem to be browsing the text.dat looking for things to
    change. That is backwards. Instead, you should be browsing your
    BBS looking for things you want to change and then if that thing happens to be in the text.dat, change it then. Not before.

    Well..... he's got to *HAVE* a BBS first, before he can browse
    it... Solid logic and reasoning do not seem to work on "The Millionaire".

    ok you want to talk about logic? let's start with recording engineering, shall we? do you even know what a trident series 65
    is or a studer a-800 or a lexicon prime time delay is? because
    when you do, look me up then we'll talk. google it if you have
    to. i took a course in this field so i don't have to.

    LOL!!! Oh, you took a course, eh?

    What you stated there above has absolutely *NOTHING* to do with
    "logic". Nothing at all, period. Maybe you should take a course
    on logic, too.

    Asking technical questions means nothing. I work on linear
    particle accelerators for a living. Care to have a debate about
    nuclear physics?

    Please, seriously, think about the questions you're asking. DM is
    very patient and tries to answer your questions, but... many of
    them really are quite silly. Especially when nearly every single
    one of them concerns the details of "text.dat". That is near the
    bottom of the list in importance of ANY file involved in SBBS.

    Could you make me a "mix tape" of my favorite tunes from the 80's?


    ... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
    === MultiMail/Linux v0.52

    you can do that yourself. but try recording an album thats totally different.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Monday, August 05, 2019 20:18:17
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Mon Aug 05 2019 05:32 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Mon Aug 05 2019 01:51 pm

    why do some lines have them and others dont?

    Some text.dat strings are multiple-lines, so they may have multiple sets of carriage-return/line-feeds. If you *use* the BBS and
    experiment
    with changes of the text.dat (e.g. adding/removing \r\n's), it'll be obvious why.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #32:
    The second most prolific contributor to Synchronet is Stephen Hurd (Deuce). Norco, CA WX: 89.5F, 35.0% humidity, 14 mph NNE wind, 0.00
    inches rain/24hrs

    yeah because of spacing anomalies within the usage.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Digital Man on Monday, August 05, 2019 20:19:57
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Mon Aug 05 2019 05:35 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to MRO on Mon Aug 05 2019 03:16 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: MRO to The Millionaire on Mon Aug 05 2019 05:09 pm

    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to digital man on Mon Aug 05 2019 01:51 pm

    why do some lines have them and others dont?


    come on now, dude. stop it with the dumb questions.
    read the documentation.

    come on now dude. stop it with the dumb answers.

    I'm curious why some of your messages have that 0x8D () character. Any idea why?

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #62:
    Name of Synchronet PCMS compiler/language "Baja" was coined by Michael Swindell.
    Norco, CA WX: 89.5F, 35.0% humidity, 14 mph NNE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    yeah when i touch the screen in termius it does weird things for some reason but also saves my message at the same time.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 06, 2019 09:40:08

    I'm curious why some of your messages have that 0x8D (ì) character.

    Any idea why?

    UTF-8 ... see the video https://youtu.be/ZlHG86U3IHs


    My doctor said I have the body of a 25 year old ... and the mind of a 10 :-/

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 06, 2019 07:27:00
    The Millionaire wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Could you make me a "mix tape" of my favorite tunes from the 80's?

    you can do that yourself. but try recording an album thats
    totally different.

    An album "thats" totally different from what?



    ... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly
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  • From The Millionaire@VERT to Gamgee on Tuesday, August 06, 2019 08:42:35
    Re: Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 06 2019 07:27 am

    The Millionaire wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Could you make me a "mix tape" of my favorite tunes from the 80's?

    you can do that yourself. but try recording an album thats
    totally different.

    An album "thats" totally different from what?



    ... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly

    from making a mixtape.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to The Millionaire on Tuesday, August 06, 2019 09:34:40
    Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Aug 05 2019 08:19 pm

    yeah when i touch the screen in termius it does weird things for some reason but also saves my message at the same time.

    Not too long ago, I remember you saying you were having issue squoting and saving in SlyEdit. SlyEdit has some slash commands you can use for some things as an alternative to the ctrl key combinations, which may be easier on some terminals. You can type /q (by itself on an empty line) to enter quote mode and /s (by itself on an empty line) to save the message.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Mortifis on Tuesday, August 06, 2019 13:08:19
    Re: Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Mortifis to The Millionaire on Tue Aug 06 2019 09:40 am


    I'm curious why some of your messages have that 0x8D () character.

    Any idea why?

    UTF-8 ... see the video https://youtu.be/ZlHG86U3IHs

    Nope, not a valid UTF-8 character sequence. It's 0x8D which is also what early FidoNet specs called a "soft-carriage-return" (Soft-CR). I'm not sure if that's a coincidence or what.

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #32:
    Derek Smalls: [A jog?] We don't have time for that.
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  • From Immortal@VERT/IDOMAIN to Digital Man on Tuesday, August 06, 2019 17:08:45
    Re: Re: \r\n in text.dat file
    By: Digital Man to Mortifis on Tue Aug 06 2019 01:08 pm

    Nope, not a valid UTF-8 character sequence. It's 0x8D which is also what early FidoNet specs called a "soft-carriage-return" (Soft-CR). I'm not sure if that's a coincidence or what.

    Synchronet doesn't seem to approve of this sequence either. It is putting an error in the log everytime said message is viewed.

    Aug 6 17:01:35 T5500 synchronet: message repeated 3 times: [ term Node 1 <Immortal> Invalid UTF-8 sequence: FE (error = -2)]
    Aug 6 17:01:50 T5500 synchronet: term Node 1 <Immortal> Invalid UTF-8 sequence: FE (error = -2)
    Aug 6 17:01:50 T5500 synchronet: message repeated 3 times: [ term Node 1 <Immortal> Invalid UTF-8 sequence: FE (error = -2)]
    Aug 6 17:03:14 T5500 synchronet: term Node 1 <Immortal> Invalid UTF-8 sequence: FE (error = -2)
    Aug 6 17:03:14 T5500 synchronet: message repeated 3 times: [ term Node 1 <Immortal> Invalid UTF-8 sequence: FE (error = -2)]

    Immortal

    ... A motor will rotate in the wrong direction.

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