Question? How is it possible the name "Synchronet" can be used by others? There's no trademark or copy right infringments? Everyone has seen the NY Buffalo IT company called Synchronet right? synchronet.net I thought there were laws or something? Domain rights?? I'm no attorney but it pisses me off whenever I search Synchronet this company shows up. Anyone know anything about this stuff?
Re: Synchronet?
By: HusTler to All on Sat Aug 03 2019 14:51:07
Question? How is it possible the name "Synchronet" can be used by others? There's no trademark or copy right infringments? Everyone
has seen the NY Buffalo IT company called Synchronet right? synchronet.net I thought there were laws or something? Domain rights??
I'm no attorney but it pisses me off whenever I search Synchronet this company shows up. Anyone know anything about this stuff?
This sort of thing happens from time to time. One or both parties using the name would have to take issue with the other, and enact some
sort of legal challenge. I can't imagine that DM is going to do that, and I doubt if the other guys are worried that they're losing
business because people are starting up a BBS instead of using their products/services.
How big of a problem the sharing of a name is depends on how confusing it is to the public (consumers). Here's an article I just skimmed
on
the topic:
https://www.upcounsel.com/likelihood-of-confusion-factors
"Relatedness of the Products" is probably paramount here. However, there have been big disputes between companies with (at the time)
very
unrelated businesses:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer
Closer to your question (an open source project vs. some company), here's a story about how such a dispute spiralled into big problems a
few
years ago:
https://tinyurl.com/yxatjbum
Another story about name confusion:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._MikeRoweSoft
Anyway, I don't think some company is going to change their name if we ask them politely, and apart from some cluttering of search
results
it doesn't seem like much of a problem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer
what about apple records vs. apple computers? a real court case based on copyright infringement.
Question? How is it possible the name "Synchronet" can be used by others? There's no trademark or copy right infringments? Everyone has
This sort of thing happens from time to time. One or both parties using the name would have to take
How big of a problem the sharing of a name is depends on how confusing it is to the public (consumers).
Here's an article I just skimmed on the topic:
Another story about name confusion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._MikeRoweSoft
Thanks for the links. I think I'll just send them an email and give them my opinion without all the legal mumbo jumbo. At the very least it's
disrespecful to use a pre-exisiting name. Years ago I tried to register a
business name for tax purposes and because it was similar to an existing business I was asked not to use it. I have no idea what the "rules" are on the world wide web. Thanks for your reply.
Question? How is it possible the name "Synchronet" can be used by others? There's no trademark or copy right infringments? Everyone has seen the NY Buffalo IT company called Synchronet right? synchronet.net I thought there were laws or something? Domain rights?? I'm no attorney but it pisses me off whenever I search Synchronet this company shows up. Anyone know anything about this stuff?
what about apple records vs. apple computers? a real court case based on copyright infringement.
Re: Synchronet?
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Sat Aug 03 2019 02:45 pm
what about apple records vs. apple computers? a real court case based on copyright infringement.
I don't think Apple (computer company) infringed on any copyrights. They just have a similar name, and now that Apple (computer company)
also hosts music, it could be confusing to consumers, which I think is the real issue.
Nightfox
Also, before Apple made their iPhone, I heard Cisco had a network-enabled phone product they called the iPhone.. I think Apple negotiated a deal with them to use the name iPhone for their (Apple's) phone.
Cisco definitely had an operating system called IOS before Apple's iOS. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of?
Re: Synchronet?
By: Nightfox to HusTler on Sat Aug 03 2019 05:30 pm
Also, before Apple made their iPhone, I heard Cisco had a network-enabled phone product they called the iPhone.. I think Apple
negotiated a deal with them to use the name iPhone for their (Apple's) phone.
Cisco definitely had an operating system called IOS before Apple's iOS. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of?
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Question? How is it possible the name "Synchronet" can be used by others? There's no trademark or copy right infringments? Everyone has seen the NY Buffalo IT company called Synchronet right? synchronet.net I thought there were laws or something? Domain rights?? I'm no attorney but it pisses me off whenever I search Synchronet this company shows up. Anyone know anything about this stuff?
Thanks for the links. I think I'll just send them an email and give them my opinion without all the legal mumbo jumbo. At the very least it's disrespecful to use a pre-exisiting name. Years ago I tried to register a business name for tax purposes and because it was similar to an existing business I was asked not to use it. I have no idea what the "rules" are on the world wide web. Thanks for your reply.
Also, before Apple made their iPhone, I heard Cisco had a
network-enabled phone product they called the iPhone.. I think Apple
negotiated a deal with them to use the name iPhone for their (Apple's)
phone.
Cisco definitely had an operating system called IOS before Apple's iOS. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of?
that's what i use on the ipad, IOS.
there's different types of copyrights. there's (r) (tm), etc
Re: Synchronet?
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Aug 04 2019 03:25 am
that's what i use on the ipad, IOS.
Really, iOS on an iPad? ;)
I think iOS is the only OS you can use on an iPad.. though I suppose it may be possible to install Linux or something on a jailbroken
iPad.
Nightfox
Thanks for the links. I think I'll just send them an email and give them my opinion without all the legal mumbo jumbo. At the very least it'sno, just please stay out of it.
it's not your software and it's just going to create problems.
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Re: Synchronet?
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:14 am
Also, before Apple made their iPhone, I heard Cisco had a
network-enabled phone product they called the iPhone.. I think Apple
negotiated a deal with them to use the name iPhone for their (Apple's)
phone.
Cisco definitely had an operating system called IOS before Apple's iOS. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of?
I definitely remember hearing about the Cisco iPhone. This is an article on that:
https://bit.ly/2GIy93p
Full link: https://www.networkworld.com/article/2855570/remember-when-cisco- sued-apple-ove r-the-iphone-name.html
Re: Synchronet?
By: MRO to HusTler on Sun Aug 04 2019 02:55 pm
there's different types of copyrights. there's (r) (tm), etc
(tm) is for a trademark, which I'm pretty sure is different than a copyright (if perhaps only slightly).
Re: Synchronet?
By: MRO to HusTler on Sun Aug 04 2019 02:55 pm
there's different types of copyrights. there's (r) (tm), etc
(tm) is for a trademark, which I'm pretty sure is different than a copyright (if perhaps only slightly).
I definitely remember hearing about the Cisco iPhone. This is an article on N>that:
On 08-13-19 16:10, Daryl Stout wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-
I definitely remember hearing about the Cisco iPhone. This is an article on
that:
The CISCO phone I have is used with a party line setup for amateur
radio operators called "HamShack Hotline". The service is free, but you have to purchase, and "provision" the phone.
The CISCO phone I have is used with a party line setup for amateur radio operators called "HamShack Hotline". The service is free, but you have to purchase, and "provision" the phone.
I'm on the HHX server, using the VoIP PBX in my router. :)
On 08-16-19 18:17, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
I'm on the HHX server, using the VoIP PBX in my router. :)
I only have a couple of contacts in my HamShack Hotline address book right now. But, with the death of my Mom a week ago, I've had far more important fish to fry.
I'm getting a bit like that, with a very close friend who's been in and out TL>hospital with cancer. Got some more bad news today. :(
As for HH, I haven't used it beyond testing with some of the conference TL>servers, but I figured it might come in handy sometime. It's setup to work TL>alongside my other VoIP services.
On 08-18-19 09:39, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
I don't think any family has escaped that scourge. I lost an uncle to colon cancer...my grandmother to lung cancer...plus my Dad and his
sister to pancreatic cancer. My wife died of a heart attack (she had a defective aortic heart valve since birth), and it was congestive heart failure that killed my Mom.
Not to be macabre, but none of us is getting any younger.
I've got to get with a fellow ham via HH on an issue I have with my Lenovo Laptop with Windows 10 64-bit (the BBS computer, and what was my late Mom's computer, have Windows 10 32-bit). It sees the wireless
mouse, but it doesn't respond to it...depending on the thumb pad
instead. At least it recognized the external keyboard.
I originally had a laptop with Windows Vista Basic, that I got at a
good deal at a regional hamfest. I was able to put Windows 7 on it, but
it crashed when I tried to put Windows 10 on it.
Yes, both Mum's parents died from some form of cancer. Lung cancer in the c TL>of my grandmother, and bone cancer for my grandfather, IIRC. On Dad's side TL>the family, his father died from complications of heart surgery. Can't reca TL>what his mother died from.
True, though I should have a fair few years left. :)
Ahh, OK. well HH is ideal for those international calls between hams. I TL>remember fury rigging things through VoIP at cheap rates, and at one stage, TL>did have an extension on a PBX that a friend ran in the US, but now HH can f TL>the bill for a lot of these things. :)
I probably should upgrade this to Windows 10 sometime. It's been running TL>Windows 7 since I bought it. Windows 10 hadn't quite been released then.
On 08-20-19 02:22, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-eca
Tony,
Yes, both Mum's parents died from some form of cancer. Lung cancer in the
of my grandmother, and bone cancer for my grandfather, IIRC. On Dad's side
the family, his father died from complications of heart surgery. Can't
what his mother died from.
Probably because their heart stopped. :P
True, though I should have a fair few years left. :)
I would hope so as well.
Some Net Controls use it similar to the D-Rats application on nets,
as a chat room with the NCO's -- especially considering security issues with the Telegram app.
I probably should upgrade this to Windows 10 sometime. It's been running
Windows 7 since I bought it. Windows 10 hadn't quite been released then.
The ONLY reason I upgraded, was because of security issues. Yet, 10 boots faster than 7 did.
No, from memory the complication was actually in the bowel. It's been 25 TL>years, and I can't recall the details now.
I'm in pretty good condition for 51 too. :)
Yeah, that would be a good use for the HH system, though for me, text mode TL>allows a more full duplex operation - I'm capable of reading while actually TL>air, while it's harder to handle multiple voice sources.
Yeah, the Windows 10 machines I've used have run very well.
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On 08-22-19 17:10, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Tony,
No, from memory the complication was actually in the bowel. It's been 25
years, and I can't recall the details now.
Sounds like a twisted colon.
I'm in pretty good condition for 51 too. :)
And, I thought I was a puppy with turning 60 next March. <G>
Telegram had some security issues recently...and after a falling out with net controls on the VoIP Hurricane Prep Net, and the Southeast US D-Star Weather Net over "early checkins", among other things, I
resigned as Net Control. I do the D-Rats checkins on the Southeast US D-Star Weather Net, but no longer monitor the voice reflector during
the net.
Yeah, the Windows 10 machines I've used have run very well.
Once you get everything working OK, all is well. Of course, Microsoft comes along with an update that FUBAR's everything. :P
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When does it expire?? :P
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Daryl Stout wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-
The CISCO phone I have is used with a party line setup for amateur
radio operators called "HamShack Hotline". The service is free, but you have to purchase, and "provision" the phone.
My condolences on losing your mother.
My HamShack Hotline number is 4655. Phone it up and leave a message, if you RQ>like. I've haven't been able to spend much time with any hobbies due to RQ>work.
On 10-13-19 18:54, Ray Quinn wrote to Daryl Stout <=-
Just a quick note on HamShack Hotline, I have only used once or twice
to talk to a "local" ham on his mobile phone while he traveled home to Bakersfield. I rarely talk on the phone, except for work and family. I have a CISCO IP PHONE 303 provisioned with three different services. HamShack Hotline is line 1, The second "line" is onethat the boss pays
for as part of the cloud-based phone service he requested several years ago (cut costs from over $500 monthly to about $700 yearly). The third
is another one through SIP.US.
My HamShack Hotline number is 4655. Phone it up and leave a message, if you like. I've haven't been able to spend much time with any hobbies
due to work.
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