On line 126 and 128 there is a %12s variable in the text.dat file. what is this for?
On line 126 and 128 there is a %12s variable in the text.dat file.
what is this for?
text.dat string that contain % specifiers are for variable replacements. The "names" of these strings usually end in "Fmt" (for "format") and the syntax is consistent with the C printf-style functions.
So %12s means: a string of text, at least 12 characters wide, right-justified.
Re: %12s
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sat Jul 20 2019 03:08 am
On line 126 and 128 there is a %12s variable in the text.dat file.
what is this for?
text.dat string that contain % specifiers are for variable replacements. The "names" of these strings usually end in "Fmt" (for "format") and the syntax is consistent with the C printf-style functions.
So %12s means: a string of text, at least 12 characters wide, right-justified.
There are other % specifiers on that line too. I wonder if he was asking what specifically that %12s is for (i.e., what gets replaced for that one).
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Jul 19 2019 03:54 pm
On line 126 and 128 there is a %12s variable in the text.dat file. what is this for?
text.dat string that contain % specifiers are for variable replacements. The "names" of these strings usually end in "Fmt" (for "format") and the syntax is consistent with the C printf-style functions.
So %12s means: a string of text, at least 12 characters wide, right-justified.
digital man
This Is Spinal Tap quote #13:
Nigel Tufnel: You can't really dust for vomit.
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Re: %12s
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sat Jul 20 2019 03:08 am
On line 126 and 128 there is a %12s variable in the text.dat file.
what is this for?
text.dat string that contain % specifiers are for variable replacements. The "names" of these strings usually end in "Fmt" (for "format") and the syntax is consistent with the C printf-style functions.
So %12s means: a string of text, at least 12 characters wide, right-justified.
There are other % specifiers on that line too. I wonder if he was asking what specifically that %12s is for (i.e., what gets replaced for that one).
Nightfox
Re: %12s
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sat Jul 20 2019 03:08 am
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Jul 19 2019 03:54 pm
On line 126 and 128 there is a %12s variable in the text.dat file. what is this for?
text.dat string that contain % specifiers are for variable replacements. The "names" of these strings usually end in "Fmt" (for "format") and the syntax is consistent with the C printf-style functions.
So %12s means: a string of text, at least 12 characters wide, right-justified.
digital man
This Is Spinal Tap quote #13:
Nigel Tufnel: You can't really dust for vomit.
Norco, CA WX: 60.2øF, 92.0% humidity, 0 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
one more question here: if it's %11.11 %11.11 are those information or formats also?
$ The Millionaire $
Re: %12s
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sat Jul 20 2019 03:08 am
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Jul 19 2019 03:54 pm
On line 126 and 128 there is a %12s variable in the text.dat file. what is this for?
text.dat string that contain % specifiers are for variable replacements. The "names" of these strings usually end in "Fmt" (for "format") and the syntax is consistent with the C printf-style functions.
So %12s means: a string of text, at least 12 characters wide, right-justified.
digital man
This Is Spinal Tap quote #13:
Nigel Tufnel: You can't really dust for vomit.
Norco, CA WX: 60.2øF, 92.0% humidity, 0 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
one more question here: if it's %11.11 %11.11 are those information or formats also?
Re: %12s
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sat Jul 20 2019 03:08 am
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Jul 19 2019 03:54 pm
On line 126 and 128 there is a %12s variable in the text.dat file. what is this for?
text.dat string that contain % specifiers are for variable replacements. The "names" of these strings usually end in "Fmt" (for "format") and the syntax is consistent with the C printf-style functions.
So %12s means: a string of text, at least 12 characters wide, right-justified.
rain/24hrs
one more question here: if it's %11.11 %11.11 are those information or formats also?
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Jul 20 2019 04:55 pm
Re: %12s
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sat Jul 20 2019 03:08 am
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Jul 19 2019 03:54 pm
On line 126 and 128 there is a %12s variable in the text.dat file. what is this for?
text.dat string that contain % specifiers are for variable replacements. The "names" of these strings usually end in "Fmt" (for "format") and the syntax is consistent with the C printf-style functions.
So %12s means: a string of text, at least 12 characters wide, right-justified.
one more question here: if it's %11.11 %11.11 are those information or formats also?
how about an explanation of some of these variables in wiki.synchro.net so I don't have to bother you all the time? for eg. %22.22 = user's name, etc.
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Jul 20 2019 04:55 pm
Re: %12s
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sat Jul 20 2019 03:08 am
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Jul 19 2019 03:54 pm
On line 126 and 128 there is a %12s variable in the text.dat file. what is this for?
text.dat string that contain % specifiers are for variable replacements. The "names" of these strings usually end in "Fmt" (for "format") and the syntax is consistent with the C printf-style functions.
So %12s means: a string of text, at least 12 characters wide, right-justified.
rain/24hrs
one more question here: if it's %11.11 %11.11 are those information or formats also?
Those are format specifiers too. It's not obvious now?
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #47:
MUD = Multi-User Dungeon
Norco, CA WX: 79.2øF, 50.0% humidity, 10 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
how about an explanation of some of these variables in wiki.synchro.net so I don't have to bother you all the time? for eg. %22.22 = user's name, etc.
how about an explanation of some of these variables in wiki.synchro.net so I don't have to bother you all the time? for eg. %22.22 = user's name, etc.
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Jul 20 2019 05:04 pm
how about an explanation of some of these variables in wiki.synchro.net so I don't have to bother you all the time? for eg. %22.22 = user's name, etc.
%s is a percent code for the string that is utilized by that particular line in text.dat
he actually DOES explain what they are in each line of text.dat
https://i.imgur.com/i0DQURP.png
Re: %12s
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Jul 20 2019 11:42 pm
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Jul 20 2019 05:04 pm
how about an explanation of some of these variables in wiki.synchro.net so I don't have to bother you all the time? for eg. %22.22 = user's name, etc.
%s is a percent code for the string that is utilized by that particular line in text.dat
he actually DOES explain what they are in each line of text.dat
https://i.imgur.com/i0DQURP.png
they are basic generalizations they are not specifically,
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sun Jul 21 2019 05:56 am
https://i.imgur.com/gkgxNia.png
dude you were talking about this back in may.
Thats because dude i havent found a simpler way. i code my text.dat file by hand or fingers and it takes quite a few days then im exhausted afterwards and take a long break to recover. if i found a more simpler approach which didnt need too much work, i could have it done in a day.
but theres no such program out there that can do what i want to achieve. so in the meantime, back to the old-fashioned approach for now.
Re: %12s
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sun Jul 21 2019 03:30 pm
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sun Jul 21 2019 05:56 am
https://i.imgur.com/gkgxNia.png
dude you were talking about this back in may.
Thats because dude i havent found a simpler way. i code my text.dat file by hand or fingers and it takes quite a few days then im exhausted afterwards and take a long break to recover. if i found a more simpler approach which didnt need too much work, i could have it done in a day. but theres no such program out there that can do what i want to achieve. so in the meantime, back to the old-fashioned approach for now.
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sun Jul 21 2019 20:30:35
Thats because dude i havent found a simpler way. i code my text.dat file by hand or fingers and it takes quite a few days then im exhausted afterwards and take a long break to recover. if i found a more simpler approach which didnt need too much work, i could have it done in a day.
For most people, opening the file in a decent text editor and using "Find and replace" is sufficient. At least for changing the colours of things (replace '\1n\1g' with '\1n\1y' to change all dark greens to brown). Or replacing various frequently recurring strings (change every instance of "message" to "communique" or whatever you want).
but theres no such program out there that can do what i want to achieve. so in the meantime, back to the old-fashioned approach for now.
What is it that you're trying to achieve?
doing the search/replace way takes minutes flat but if you want certain colors in certain places then you have to hard code it by hand. theres no way to assign them to those places. for ex. if i want a y color in one place it will be in other places but if i say y here and c here then it works. not a real ex.butpretend example ; /1cthis /1y@bbs@ /1chas shut down for maintenance.
dude you were talking about this back in may.
Thats because dude i havent found a simpler way. i code my text.dat file by hand or fingers and it takes quite a few days then im exhausted afterwards and take a long break to recover. if i found a more simpler approach which didnt need too much work, i could have it done in a day. but theres no such program out there that can do what i want to achieve. so in the meantime, back to the old-fashioned approach for now.
but theres no such program out there that can do what i want to achieve. so in the meantime, back to the old-fashioned approach for now.
What is it that you're trying to achieve?
What is it that you're trying to achieve?
doing the search/replace way takes minutes flat but if you want certain colors in certain places then you have to hard code it by hand. theres no way to assign them to those places. for ex. if i want a y color in one place it will be in other places but if i say y here and c here then it works. not a real ex.butpretend example ; /1cthis /1y@bbs@ /1chas shut down for maintenance.
If you choose to insert colours where none existed before, and if you choose to reword many of the
strings, and if you can't discern any patterns that would help make a find/replace job easier, then yes,
you're in for a lot of work and it could take a long time.
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Sun Jul 21 2019 21:40:01
doing the search/replace way takes minutes flat but if you want certain colors in certain places then you have to hard code it by hand. theres no way to assign them to those places. for ex. if i want a y color in one place it will be in other places but if i say y here and c here then it works. not a real ex.butpretend example ; /1cthis /1y@bbs@ /1chas shut down for maintenance.
If you choose to insert colours where none existed before, and if you choose to reword many of the strings, and if you can't discern any patterns that would help make a find/replace job easier, then yes, you're in for a lot of work and it could take a long time.
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sun Jul 21 2019 08:30 pm
dude you were talking about this back in may.
Thats because dude i havent found a simpler way. i code my text.dat file by hand or fingers and it takes quite a few days then im exhausted afterwards and take a long break to recover. if i found a more simpler approach which didnt need too much work, i could have it done in a day. but theres no such program out there that can do what i want to achieve. so in the meantime, back to the old-fashioned approach for now.
we told you about text replacement programs back then too.
do you even run a bbs?
Re: %12s
By: echicken to The Millionaire on Mon Jul 22 2019 12:06 am
but theres no such program out there that can do what i want to achieve. so in the meantime, back to the old-fashioned approach for now.
What is it that you're trying to achieve?
he's just being an askhole.
he doesnt even act on any of the answers or help he receives.
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Sun Jul 21 2019 09:40 pm
What is it that you're trying to achieve?
doing the search/replace way takes minutes flat but if you want certain colors in certain places then you have to hard code it by hand. theres no way to assign them to those places. for ex. if i want a y color in one place it will be in other places but if i say y here and c here then it works. not a real ex.butpretend example ; /1cthis /1y@bbs@ /1chas shut down for maintenance.
you are only limited by your own ability.
i'm positive my text.dat is modded more than you and it didnt take more than minutes.
works. not a real ex.butpretend example ; /1cthis /1y@bbs@ /1chas shut down for maintenance.
we told you about text replacement programs back then too.
do you even run a bbs?
i can't run a bbs because ipad won't let me run executables hence thats why i am getting a msp instead.
Re: %12s
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Mon Jul 22 2019 12:44 am
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Sun Jul 21 2019 09:40 pm
What is it that you're trying to achieve?
doing the search/replace way takes minutes flat but if you want certain colors in certain places then you have to hard code it by hand. theres no way to assign them to those places. for ex. if i want a y color in one place it will be in other places but if i say y here and c here then it works. not a real ex.butpretend example ; /1cthis /1y@bbs@ /1chas shut down for maintenance.
you are only limited by your own ability.
i'm positive my text.dat is modded more than you and it didnt take more than minutes.
i wish it was that fast for me.
$ The Millionaire $
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Sun Jul 21 2019 09:40 pm
works. not a real ex.butpretend example ; /1cthis /1y@bbs@ /1chas shut down for maintenance.
Those are the wrong slashes. You need to use backslashes, i.e. \1cthis \1y@bbs@ \1chas
Nightfox
Re: %12s
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Mon Jul 22 2019 12:41 am
we told you about text replacement programs back then too.
do you even run a bbs?
I don't think he does. I remember him talking to DM about having uploaded his text.dat to Vertrauen as a backup until he's able to set up his own BBS, and he's planning to buy a Microsoft Surface Pro in the fall to run his BBS on.
Nightfox
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Mon Jul 22 2019 05:52 am
i can't run a bbs because ipad won't let me run executables hence thats why i am getting a msp instead.
I'm just curious why you want a tablet to run a BBS though? They are small and portable, but a Surface Pro can be expensive. If you just want to run a BBS, you can buy a cheap older computer. Also you'll more than likely want a real keyboard and mouse for modding things and creating ANSIs, etc., and a bigger screen might make that easier too.
Nightfox
I'm just curious why you want a tablet to run a BBS though? They are
small and portable, but a Surface Pro can be expensive. If you just
true but i cant use the big ones anymore now. compacticity is the new trend now.
why do you mod your text file so much for? i only mod when dm makes changes.
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Mon Jul 22 2019 11:08 am
I'm just curious why you want a tablet to run a BBS though? They are
small and portable, but a Surface Pro can be expensive. If you just
true but i cant use the big ones anymore now. compacticity is the new trend now.
Why can't you use a bigger computer? Not enough space?
Nightfox
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Mon Jul 22 2019 11:04 am
why do you mod your text file so much for? i only mod when dm makes changes.
It's good to mod your BBS so it looks unique. Often you'll want to make your BBS your own and give it your own style. People don't find a cookie-cutter clone BBS very interesting.
And if you don't even run a BBS yet, why bother modifying a text.dat? Are you even able to use it right now?
Nightfox
Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-
i can't run a bbs because ipad won't let me run executables hence thats why i am getting a msp instead.
I'm just curious why you want a tablet to run a BBS though? They
are small and portable, but a Surface Pro can be expensive. If
you just want to run a BBS, you can buy a cheap older computer.
Also you'll more than likely want a real keyboard and mouse for
modding things and creating ANSIs, etc., and a bigger screen
might make that easier too.
The Millionaire wrote to MRO <=-
you are only limited by your own ability.
i'm positive my text.dat is modded more than you and it didnt take more than minutes.
why do you mod your text file so much for? i only mod when dm
makes changes.
The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-
i can't run a bbs because ipad won't let me run executables hence thats why i am getting a msp instead.
I'm just curious why you want a tablet to run a BBS though? They are small and portable, but a Surface Pro can be expensive. If you just want to run a BBS, you can buy a cheap older computer. Also you'll more than likely want a real keyboard and mouse for modding things and creating ANSIs, etc., and a bigger screen might make that easier too.
true but i cant use the big ones anymore now.
compacticity is the new trend now.
Why would you need to modify your text.dat just because "dm makes changes"?
The Millionaire wrote to MRO <=-
you are only limited by your own ability.
i'm positive my text.dat is modded more than you and it didnt take more than minutes.
why do you mod your text file so much for? i only mod when dm
makes changes.
Why would you need to modify your text.dat just because "dm makes
changes"?
Honestly, I haven't modified mine at all. What's the need to
constantly modifiy it?
... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly
The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-
i can't run a bbs because ipad won't let me run executables hence thats why i am getting a msp instead.
I'm just curious why you want a tablet to run a BBS though? They are small and portable, but a Surface Pro can be expensive. If you just want to run a BBS, you can buy a cheap older computer. Also you'll more than likely want a real keyboard and mouse for modding things and creating ANSIs, etc., and a bigger screen might make that easier too.
true but i cant use the big ones anymore now.
Why not?
compacticity is the new trend now.
Maybe for some things. I don't think "running a BBS" falls into
that "trend" though.
Oh, just thought of something else - many BBS's today run on a
Raspberry Pi. Doesn't get much smaller than that. You can buy
one for roughly $40. Git-R-Done.
... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
Re: Re: %12s
By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Mon Jul 22 2019 15:03:00
Why would you need to modify your text.dat just because "dm makes changes"?
I expect it's because he wants to customize *every* string, so if he doesn't add new records as they appear, he's stuck with the defaults.
And if you don't even run a BBS yet, why bother modifying a text.dat?
Are you even able to use it right now?
i wanted to get a head start on it before i get my msp in the fall.
Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Mon Jul 22 2019 02:05 pm
And if you don't even run a BBS yet, why bother modifying a text.dat?
Are you even able to use it right now?
i wanted to get a head start on it before i get my msp in the fall.
It's a lot easier when you have a BBS up and running so you can try it out right away to see if your changes are working or not.
Nightfox
Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-
why do you mod your text file so much for? i only mod when dm makes changes.
It's good to mod your BBS so it looks unique. Often you'll want
to make your BBS your own and give it your own style. People
don't find a cookie-cutter clone BBS very interesting.
And if you don't even run a BBS yet, why bother modifying a
text.dat? Are you even able to use it right now?
echicken wrote to Gamgee <=-
Why would you need to modify your text.dat just because "dm makes changes"?
I expect it's because he wants to customize *every* string, so if
he doesn't add new records as they appear, he's stuck with the
defaults.
The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
compacticity is the new trend now.
Maybe for some things. I don't think "running a BBS" falls into
that "trend" though.
Oh, just thought of something else - many BBS's today run on a
Raspberry Pi. Doesn't get much smaller than that. You can buy
one for roughly $40. Git-R-Done.
but you need a kybrd for pi. i need a touchscreen.
Re: %12s
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Mon Jul 22 2019 12:41 am
we told you about text replacement programs back then too.
do you even run a bbs?
I don't think he does. I remember him talking to DM about having uploaded his text.dat to Vertrauen as a backup until he's able to set up his own BBS, and he's planning to buy a Microsoft Surface Pro in the fall to run his BBS on.
why do you mod your text file so much for? i only mod when dm makes changes.
It's good to mod your BBS so it looks unique. Often you'll want
to make your BBS your own and give it your own style. People
don't find a cookie-cutter clone BBS very interesting.
Sure, true enough. But you can make extensive changes to things
without ever touching text.dat.
I think he's getting prepared, so he can "hit the ground running".
;-)
Why would you need to modify your text.dat just because "dm makes
changes"?
to keep up to date with the best.
I expect it's because he wants to customize *every* string, so if he
doesn't add new records as they appear, he's stuck with the defaults.
point well taken.
but you need a kybrd for pi.
i need a touchscreen.
Re: Re: %12s
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Mon Jul 22 2019 15:56:01
but you need a kybrd for pi.
no you don't...
i need a touchscreen.
so buy one for the rPi...
we've been putting touch screens on computers used for point of sale for at least 20 years... they're a lot cheaper now than they used to be...
if you're on a BBS that carries fidonet, look and see if they have the RBERRYPI echo or just connect to the news group that it is gated from... i know of at least one guy in there that's using a rPi with a touch screen in his airplane cockpit...
i need a touchscreen.
so buy one for the rPi...
we've been putting touch screens on computers used for point of sale
for at least 20 years... they're a lot cheaper now than they used to
be...
if you're on a BBS that carries fidonet, look and see if they have the
RBERRYPI echo or just connect to the news group that it is gated
from... i know of at least one guy in there that's using a rPi with a
touch screen in his airplane cockpit...
I have a rPi 3b+ that I used to build a Kuman 4 channel smart plug, it
has a Kuman 7" touch screen and a wireless keyboard and a 3" bluetooth speaker, and a mini usb mic so it accepts voice commands via a php
voice recognition script I wrote ...
video demo available LOL ... the pi even has sbbs 3.17b running on (ya
I need to update it but I only use my "Gizmo" for christmas lights
lmfao)
On 2019 Jul 23 11:55:20, you wrote to Rampage:
i need a touchscreen.
so buy one for the rPi...
we've been putting touch screens on computers used for point of sale
for at least 20 years... they're a lot cheaper now than they used to
be...
if you're on a BBS that carries fidonet, look and see if they have the
RBERRYPI echo or just connect to the news group that it is gated
from... i know of at least one guy in there that's using a rPi with a
touch screen in his airplane cockpit...
I have a rPi 3b+ that I used to build a Kuman 4 channel smart plug, it has a Kuman 7" touch screen and a wireless keyboard and a 3" bluetooth speaker, and a mini usb mic so it accepts voice commands via a php voice recognition script I wrote ...
see? there ya go! one could even get an old optiflex from ebay and put a touch screen on it, too... not just a handheld one but a full on monitor with touch... one of my disabled clients used one with a mouthstick some years back...
video demo available LOL ... the pi even has sbbs 3.17b running on (ya I need to update it but I only use my "Gizmo" for christmas lights lmfao)
:)
)\/(ark
if you're on a BBS that carries fidonet, look and see if they have
the RBERRYPI echo or just connect to the news group that it is
gated from... i know of at least one guy in there that's using a
rPi with a touch screen in his airplane cockpit...
I have a rPi 3b+ that I used to build a Kuman 4 channel smart
if you're on a BBS that carries fidonet, look and see if they have
the RBERRYPI echo or just connect to the news group that it is
gated from... i know of at least one guy in there that's using a
rPi with a touch screen in his airplane cockpit...
I have a rPi 3b+ that I used to build a Kuman 4 channel smart
I carry every Fido group there is. All 188. I don't see anything
related to the R PI. I that very surprising. Fidonet has groups for ancient OS's but none for the fairly new PI? That's too weird to me.
Re: Re: %12s
By: Mortifis to mark lewis on Tue Jul 23 2019 01:32 pm
if you're on a BBS that carries fidonet, look and see if they have R>>> the RBERRYPI echo or just connect to the news group that it is
gated from... i know of at least one guy in there that's using a R>>> rPi with a touch screen in his airplane cockpit...
I have a rPi 3b+ that I used to build a Kuman 4 channel smart
I carry every Fido group there is. All 188. I don't see anything related to the R PI. I that very surprising. Fidonet has groups for ancient OS's but none for the fairly new PI? That's too weird to me.
HusTler
Havens BBS (havens.synchro.net)
I carry every Fido group there is. All 188. I don't see anything
related to the R PI. I that very surprising. Fidonet has groups for ancient OS's but none for the fairly new PI? That's too weird to me.
I carry every Fido group there is. All 188. I don't see anything related to the R PI. I that very surprising. Fidonet has groups for ancient OS's but none for the fairly new PI? That's too weird to me.
I carry every Fido group there is. All 188. I don't see anything
related to the R PI. I that very surprising. Fidonet has groups for
ancient OS's but none for the fairly new PI? That's too weird to me.
The RBERRYPI area mentioned above is on the backbone. It's a gated newsgroup that is active from both the FTN and NEWS side.
Me believes yer replying to the wrong comment, I hadn't said anything about Fido :-P
ummm... there are over 200 echos in fidonet... the one you are missing for the rPi is RBERRYPI and is gated from usenet by a system in Zone 3 ;)
The RBERRYPI area mentioned above is on the backbone. It's a
gated newsgroup that is active from both the FTN and NEWS side.
So it's a "USENET" news group. Not a Fidonet Group. I get many news groups on my BBS. I can't think of a good reason why Fidonet doesn't
have it's own group for the Rasberry PI. Unless they stopped adding
groups to the Network? I guess it's easier to pull USENET groups
instead of creating its own group.
This bickering who's replying to who is getting old. Just make all the groups anonymous if it's going to be a big deal.
Re: Re: %12s
By: Mortifis to HusTler on Tue Jul 23 2019 07:00 pm
Me believes yer replying to the wrong comment, I hadn't said anything about Fido :-P
This bickering who's replying to who is getting old. Just make all the groups anonymous if it's going to be a big deal.
This bickering who's replying to who is getting old. Just make all the groups anonymous if it's going to be a big deal.
This bickering who's replying to who is getting old. Just make all
the groups anonymous if it's going to be a big deal.
Some people only scan certain subs for new messages addressed to them. This could be the difference between seeing and not seeing a reply.
Also, it's a useful point of clarification at times. I've seen threads get way out of whack with people losing track of who said what and when, with nasty results at times. Imagine how much of a clusterfuck it'd be if there
By default synchronet choses the last person to reply to the message in the "To" field. I don't have the time to figure out who said what to who.
These are public message bases with public conversations. Not personal
emails. I'll just make my replies to anonymous to avoid any conflicts.
The reader will have to figure out who said what.
I might as well remove my signature to I guess.
in the "To" field. I don't have the time to figure out who said whatIt chooses the "From" user of the message that you're replying to, which is good, and I (almost) always go with that as well.
to who.
I don't think it's a big deal, and most of the time it doesn't really matter, but sometimes it makes a difference.
Apparently it is "Big Deal" to some. To avoid petty ass problems caused by a defaulty messaging system and users that have nothing better to do then
I suggest everyone make their replies to Anonymous or All.
That said maybe we should just remove quoting all
together. Seems quoting can cause more problems then it worth.
These are public message bases with public conversations. Not personal emails. I'll just make my replies to anonymous to avoid any conflicts. The reader will have to figure out who said what.
MAKE a big deal about it. I suggest everyone make their replies to Anonymous or All.
That said maybe we should just remove quoting all
together. Seems quoting can cause more problems then it worth.
Sometimes this is fine. Other times it obfuscates the source, making it seem as if the quote is attributed to the person you're replying to. Putting words in their mouth, in a sense. Or confusing other people who are following the thread.
I suggest everyone make their replies to Anonymous or All.
That's a bad suggestion and I'd hate to see it happen. Directing a message at a particular person can be helpful, can keep things organized, and as I said earlier also interacts with new message scan features.
Quoting is an extremely useful tool that most people (around here) use effectively, even if it takes some a while to get the hang of it.
Sometimes I've mentioned in those newsgroups about people addressing the right person, but sometimes they laugh it off.. I'm not sure if some newsgroups work differently where they have to address their messages to 'All'.
thing I've noticed happening more often lately is people replying and not quoting, and sometimes it's really hard to remember what they're talking
It seems you're taking this too personally.
I'm just curious why you want a tablet to run a BBS though? They are
small and portable, but a Surface Pro can be expensive. If you just
true but i cant use the big ones anymore now. compacticity is the
new trend now.
Why can't you use a bigger computer? Not enough space?
but you need a kybrd for pi. i need a touchscreen.
Of course there's the flip side, people quoting an entire message (often including nested quotes) and then adding their two cents in one line at the bottom - or worse, at the top.
"conversation" in that area. Maybe I'm doing it wrong but when I started BBSing quoting wasn't available. You had to follow the conversation. If
HusTler wrote to AnOnyMOus <=-
in the "To" field. I don't have the time to figure out who said what
to who.
It chooses the "From" user of the message that you're replying to, which is good, and I (almost) always go with that as well.
I don't think it's a big deal, and most of the time it doesn't really matter, but sometimes it makes a difference.
Apparently it is "Big Deal" to some.
To avoid petty ass problems caused by a defaulty messaging system and users that have nothing better to do then MAKE a big deal about it.
I suggest everyone make their replies to Anonymous or All.
That said maybe we should just remove quoting all together.
Seems quoting can cause more problems then it worth.
On 07-24-19 09:41, echicken wrote to HusTler <=-
"All" would be a better choice than "anonymous", as that's the typical
way to address your message to the
entire group.
On 07-24-19 10:40, HusTler wrote to AnOnyMOus <=-
Apparently it is "Big Deal" to some. To avoid petty ass problems
caused by a defaulty messaging system and users that have nothing
better to do then MAKE a big deal about it. I suggest everyone make
their replies to Anonymous or All. That said maybe we should just
remove quoting all together. Seems quoting can cause more problems then
it worth.
On 07-24-19 12:39, echicken wrote to HusTler <=-
There's nothing wrong with the default "To" addressing. The problem is confusion arising from replying
to nested quotes within a message.
Sometimes this is fine. Other times it obfuscates the source, making
it seem as if the quote is
attributed to the person you're replying to. Putting words in their mouth, in a sense. Or confusing
other people who are following the thread.
Anyway, I can see that this has become a sore topic for you, and you
don't seem to be absorbing anything
I say or making counterpoints. I'll step away unless I think i can provide further clarification.
On 07-24-19 09:41, Nightfox wrote to HusTler <=-
Re: BIG DEAL
By: HusTler to AnOnyMOus on Wed Jul 24 2019 10:40 am
MAKE a big deal about it. I suggest everyone make their replies to Anonymous or All.
THat would probably cause more problems than it's worth.
On 07-24-19 12:35, Nightfox wrote to echicken <=-
Re: BIG DEAL
By: echicken to HusTler on Wed Jul 24 2019 12:39 pm
Sometimes this is fine. Other times it obfuscates the source, making it seem as if the quote is attributed to the person you're replying to. Putting words in their mouth, in a sense. Or confusing other people who are following the thread.
You can sorta tell that the quote might not be who they're replying to
if there are multiple levels of quote characters (i.e., 2 '>'
characters instead of 1), but it can make it a little confusing if
you're casually reading messages. I find it a little bothersome when I get messages addressed to me in reply to things I didn't say (and the other person might not see that message becaues it wasn't addressed to them).
I agree. I've read newsgroups where all the messages are addressed to 'All' and sometimes it can be hard to tell who is addressing who (and natrually, none of those messages come up in a new-to-me message scan).
Sometimes I've mentioned in those newsgroups about people addressing
the right person, but sometimes they laugh it off.. I'm not sure if
some newsgroups work differently where they have to address their
messages to 'All'.
Yep. Quoting helps people follow the flow of the conversation.
Another thing I've noticed happening more often lately is people
replying and not quoting, and sometimes it's really hard to remember
what they're talking about.
On 07-24-19 17:13, echicken wrote to Nightfox <=-
In other forums, quoting tends to establish who the reply is
(primarily) intended for. As in, I quote
your message and then add my own comments below, so I'm essentially writing back to you. Of course there
as well as here, other people are welcome to chime in.
thing I've noticed happening more often lately is people replying and not quoting, and sometimes it's really hard to remember what they're talking
I'm not so bothered by that as long as there's some kind of summary / something to jog my memory, but
more than often that's missing too.
Of course there's the flip side, people quoting an entire message
(often including nested quotes) and
then adding their two cents in one line at the bottom - or worse, at
the top.
MAKE a big deal about it. I suggest everyone make their replies to
Anonymous or All.
THat would probably cause more problems than it's worth.
It would actually be useable. Afterall, this is effectively what Usenet and email mailing lists do, and have done for decades. But why limit BBS messaging to the lowest common denominator when we don't have to?
I agree. I've read newsgroups where all the messages are addressed to 'All'
Also if you're replying to me, you can go ahead and address your
messages to me instead of "All". Addressing your replies to "All"
instead of the person you're replying to seems a bit impersonal, and honestly a little rude..
I am known to quote multiple people in the same post and make reference to them. Done that on newsgroups, mailing lists and web forum posts - the
I agree. I've read newsgroups where all the messages are addressed
to 'All'
that's BBS/gating thing... news articles (their proper name) to not have a To: field at all... when news articles are gated to a BBS or a message network, they have to put something in the To: field because something is expected there...
Also if you're replying to me, you can go ahead and address your
messages to me instead of "All". Addressing your replies to "All"
instead of the person you're replying to seems a bit impersonal, and
honestly a little rude..
posts cannot be addressed to anyone if one is using the NNTP news interface of a BBS to participate... there simply is no To: field in news articles...
you are known to do that huh? never heard of ya!
On 07-25-19 09:09, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I've seen newsgroups with messages addressed to specific names.. So
I'm not entirely sure what the limitation is there. But I agree, I
don't think we should limit BBS messaging to the lowest common
denominator when we don't have to.
On 07-25-19 14:46, Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
Re: Re: BIG DEAL
By: MRO to Tony Langdon on Thu Jul 25 2019 04:34 pm
you are known to do that huh? never heard of ya!
You've never seen Tony Langdon post on Dove-Net? I've seen him on here for quite a while.
I agree. I've read newsgroups where all the messages are addressed
to 'All'
that's BBS/gating thing... news articles (their proper name) to not have a To: field at all... when news articles are gated to a BBS or a message network, they have to put something in the To: field because something
is expected there...
I've seen newsgroups where articles have a 'To' field with a name though..
Re: BIG DEAL
By: mark lewis to Nightfox on Thu Jul 25 2019 02:46 pm
I agree. I've read newsgroups where all the messages are addressed
to 'All'
that's BBS/gating thing... news articles (their proper name) to not have a To: field at all... when news articles are gated to a BBS or a message network, they have to put something in the To: field because something is expected there...
I've seen newsgroups where articles have a 'To' field with a name though..
Re: Re: %12s
By: Rampage to HusTler on Tue Jul 23 2019 06:04 pm
ummm... there are over 200 echos in fidonet... the one you are missing for the rPi is RBERRYPI and is gated from usenet by
a
system in Zone 3 ;)
I've seen newsgroups with messages addressed to specific names.. So
I'm not entirely sure what the limitation is there. But I agree, I
don't think we should limit BBS messaging to the lowest common
denominator when we don't have to.
Were you reading them on Usenet? Because I've never seen a To: name
in a newsgroup post when reading on Usenet (with a newsreader on a
NNTP server). If it's gated, two possible sources are JAMNNTPd
(which can reconstruct a To field) or someone on a BBS replying to a
post on your side of the gateway. And even if it's just on the one
BBS, JAMNNTPd will still work out the To address from anyone who
replies (technically in Usenet speak, posts a followup) there.
I've seen newsgroups with messages addressed to specific names.. So
Were you reading them on Usenet? Because I've never seen a To: name in a
Re: Re: BIG DEAL
By: MRO to Tony Langdon on Thu Jul 25 2019 04:34 pm
you are known to do that huh? never heard of ya!
You've never seen Tony Langdon post on Dove-Net? I've seen him on here for quite a while.
On 07-25-19 14:46, Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
Re: Re: BIG DEAL
By: MRO to Tony Langdon on Thu Jul 25 2019 04:34 pm
you are known to do that huh? never heard of ya!
You've never seen Tony Langdon post on Dove-Net? I've seen him on here for quite a while.
I just gave it the contempt it deserved. ;)
Re: Re: %12s
By: HusTler to ALL on Tue Jul 23 2019 18:54:23
Re: Re: %12s
By: Rampage to HusTler on Tue Jul 23 2019 06:04 pm
ummm... there are over 200 echos in fidonet... the one you are missing for the rPi is RBERRYPI and is gated from usenet by
a
system in Zone 3 ;)
If its the newsgroup that you want I vam going to be configuring it soon and anyone that has fidonet mail will be able to get it. I am running a dedicated linux server with 200 Up/Down intnernet connection. If you want it just send a nemail message to me.
On 07-26-19 09:09, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Much like this one.
BTW, there is a version of JamNNTPd that also does Msg & Squish messagebases as well as JAM. None for SMB (Syncro), unfortunately.
On 07-25-19 16:55, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: BIG DEAL
By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Fri Jul 26 2019 07:43 am
I've seen newsgroups with messages addressed to specific names.. So
Were you reading them on Usenet? Because I've never seen a To: name in a
I don't remember.. It has been a while.
I was tempted to try it on my Mystic system, but the need to maintain two configurations (Mystic and NNTPd) puts me off.
On 07-26-19 01:23, Netsurge wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I was tempted to try it on my Mystic system, but the need to maintain two configurations (Mystic and NNTPd) puts me off.
No need to do that, Mystic has a built in NNTP server that serves up
the message bases.
I was tempted to try it on my Mystic system, but the need to maintain
two configurations (Mystic and NNTPd) puts me off.
On 07-26-19 15:53, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Hi! Tony,
On 26 Jul 19 14:50, you wrote to me:
I was tempted to try it on my Mystic system, but the need to maintain
two configurations (Mystic and NNTPd) puts me off.
I have a plan B on hold for a Mystic install which would have a
JamNNTPd test facility. In practice (theory) there's no need to toy
with a JamNNTPd config once its established in conjunction with a
tosser (Mystic), unless changes are made in the tosser. It's a
priority #99 project and can wait.
There's plenty of adventures afoot since bringing my second Xubuntu/64 system online. (The first one has the Lubuntu/32 Fidonet VM system...
oh, this thing I'm using now.) This arvo I've got Samba working with
the AD/DC Canonical 'downgrade' (what a hopeless PoS!) and just got the BOINC/SETI jobs going again. Fun. :)
This arvo I've got Samba working with the AD/DC
Canonical 'downgrade' (what a hopeless PoS!)
Hmm, you've got your hands full. I'm not aware of the "downgrade" you're talking about. Is that for when you're using Samba as an AD DC?
On 07-26-19 18:27, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Aw, I'm just referring to Samba 4's complexity. Previous iterations
could be tamed with a simple smb.conf file, which I had eventually
evolved using suggestions from an on-line personality named Joe Collins (on YT).
Canonical's Samba 4 requires an additional package called 'system-config-samba' which brings with it a GUI methodology of
management of sharing requirements. Maximum obscuration points for something that used to only require a simple text config file.
Have you done battle with it yet? I would recommend a YT video if
you're interested. Its guides have helped me with both Lubuntu and Xubuntu so far. Interested?
so you will be flooding fidonet and maybe dovenet with dupe messages from usenet. or vice versa.
Re: Re: %12s
By: Phil Taylor to HusTler on Thu Jul 25 2019 11:09 pm
Re: Re: %12s
By: HusTler to ALL on Tue Jul 23 2019 18:54:23
Re: Re: %12s
By: Rampage to HusTler on Tue Jul 23 2019 06:04 pm
ummm... there are over 200 echos in fidonet... the one you are missing for the rPi is RBERRYPI and is gated from
usenet
by
a
system in Zone 3 ;)
If its the newsgroup that you want I vam going to be configuring it soon and anyone that has fidonet mail will be able to
get
it. I am running a dedicated linux server with 200 Up/Down intnernet connection. If you want it just send a nemail message to
me.
so you will be flooding fidonet and maybe dovenet with dupe messages from usenet. or vice versa.
i thought that was robert wolfe's job.
MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-
you are known to do that huh? never heard of ya!
You've never seen Tony Langdon post on Dove-Net? I've seen him on here for quite a while.
in my mind i group them all into about 3 people. and i dont give
those people names.
so there's you, digitalman, phil and maybe echicken that i
recognize as existing posters on dovenet aside from the dovenet
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