any further changes planned for the control panel or will it stay as is?
Re: control panel
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Mon Jul 15 2019 06:32 am
any further changes planned for the control panel or will it stay as is?
I plan to migrate to the latest C++Builder, which would be a significant performance and cosmetic improvement. I don't know when I'll get around to doing that though.
digital man
This Is Spinal Tap quote #7:
Nigel Tufnel: That's just nitpicking, isn't it?
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Re: control panel
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Mon Jul 15 2019 04:50 pm
Re: control panel
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Mon Jul 15 2019 06:32 am
any further changes planned for the control panel or will it stay as is?
I plan to migrate to the latest C++Builder, which would be a significant performance and cosmetic improvement. I don't know when I'll get around to doing that though.
digital man
This Is Spinal Tap quote #7:
Nigel Tufnel: That's just nitpicking, isn't it?
Norco, CA WX: 90.4øF, 36.0% humidity, 9 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
that should be interesting to see.
$ The Millionaire $
Re: control panel
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Jul 16 2019 08:58 pm
i have an idea. how about a similar front door look or add some themes for choosing what kind of control panel you want to look like. just a suggestion.
$ The Millionaire $
i have an idea. how about a similar front door look or add some themes
for choosing what kind of control panel you want to look like. just a
suggestion.
maybe possibly a save option too. just a consideration here.
What would you expect a save option to do in the Synchronet GUI? I don't know what data it would be saving..
Re: Control Panel
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Thu Jul 18 2019 09:55:49
What would you expect a save option to do in the Synchronet GUI? I don't know what data it would be saving..
It would save the BBS, obviously.
Re: Control Panel
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Jul 17 2019 06:06 pm
i have an idea. how about a similar front door look or add some themes
for choosing what kind of control panel you want to look like. just a
suggestion.
maybe possibly a save option too. just a consideration here.
What would you expect a save option to do in the Synchronet GUI? I don't know what data it would be saving..
Nightfox
Re: Control Panel
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Thu Jul 18 2019 09:55:49
What would you expect a save option to do in the Synchronet GUI? I don't know what data it would be saving..
It would save the BBS, obviously.
Re: Control Panel
By: echicken to Nightfox on Thu Jul 18 2019 01:39 pm
Re: Control Panel
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Thu Jul 18 2019 09:55:49
What would you expect a save option to do in the Synchronet GUI? I don't know what data it would be saving..
It would save the BBS, obviously.
it would make a file called for example sbbs.theme or theme.sbbs or sbbs.thm. all the color data would be in it. similar to the css file.
$ The Millionaire $
it would make a file called for example sbbs.theme or theme.sbbs or sbbs.thm. all the color data would be in it. similar to the css file.
Re: Control Panel
By: echicken to Nightfox on Thu Jul 18 2019 01:39 pm
Re: Control Panel
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Thu Jul 18 2019 09:55:49
What would you expect a save option to do in the Synchronet GUI? I don't know what data it would be saving..
It would save the BBS, obviously.
it would make a file called for example sbbs.theme or theme.sbbs or sbbs.thm. all the color data would be in it. similar to the css file.
$ The Millionaire $
I suppose, in affect, SBBSCRTL already has 'themes' since you can, at least under Windows, go to File->Properties->Customize and choose background color, font style and font colors and apply them in a myriad of ways (apply scheme to: )... in conjunction with your desktop scheme, it should produce your desired look.
My teachers always said "You can't make a living looking out a window!", they were wrong, I drive truck :-P
Re: Control Panel
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Thu Jul 18 2019 13:57:26
it would make a file called for example sbbs.theme or theme.sbbs or sbbs.thm. all the color data would be in it. similar to the css file.
I still think it would be way cooler if it saved the entire BBS and then you could make
different BBSs and then save them and then you could just open the file and it would load
that BBS and then if the next day you wanted to run another BBS you could just open a
different file and then suddenly you're running this whole other BBS profile and you could
just switch from one BBS to another whenever you felt like it and there would really be no
limit to how many different BBSs you could run except maybe how much storage space you have
for all of those .bbs files that you have saved so then you need to go to the store and get
a bigger hard drive or maybe several large hard drives and mash them together so that you
have lots of extra space for your .bbs files so you can just keep making more of them and
then you have all of these different BBS profiles to choose from and you can just clickem
and launchem and there you go it's a whole other BBS experience for your users and it's all
saved right there in this one handy convenient file because of the save button in the file
menu that you can click on to save your BBS but hey man maybe that's just me your idea is
probably easier to implement I'm just saying this is a thing that someone could do and it
would be a thing if they did it if you know what I mean
???
Re: Re: Control Panel
By: Mortifis to The Millionaire on Thu Jul 18 2019 06:11 pm
Re: Control Panel
By: echicken to Nightfox on Thu Jul 18 2019 01:39 pm
Re: Control Panel
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Thu Jul 18 2019 09:55:49
What would you expect a save option to do in the Synchronet GUI? I don't know what data it would be saving..
It would save the BBS, obviously.
it would make a file called for example sbbs.theme or theme.sbbs or sbbs.thm. all the color data would be in it. similar to the css file.
$ The Millionaire $
I suppose, in affect, SBBSCRTL already has 'themes' since you can, at least under Windows, go to File->Properties->Customize and choose background color, font style and font colors and apply them in a myriad of ways (apply scheme to: )... in conjunction with your desktop scheme, it should produce your desired look.
My teachers always said "You can't make a living looking out a window!", they were wrong, I drive truck :-P
the only problem with that is everything changes in windows. you only want the bbs to change color hence the theme system.
$ The Millionaire $
i have an idea. how about a similar front door look or add some
themes for choosing what kind of control panel you want to look
like. just a suggestion.
maybe possibly a save option too. just a consideration here.
What would you expect a save option to do in the Synchronet GUI? I
don't know what data it would be saving..
you would be saving the color data information like you do in the irex themes.
What would you expect a save option to do in the Synchronet GUI? I don't know what data it would be saving..
It would save the BBS, obviously.
Re: Control Panel
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Thu Jul 18 2019 13:57:26
it would make a file called for example sbbs.theme or theme.sbbs or sbbs.thm. all the color data would be in it. similar to the css file.
I still think it would be way cooler if it saved the entire BBS and then you could make
different BBSs and then save them and then you could just open the file and
Re: Control Panel
By: echicken to The Millionaire on Thu Jul 18 2019 05:18 pm
Re: Control Panel
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Thu Jul 18 2019 13:57:26
it would make a file called for example sbbs.theme or theme.sbbs or sbbs.thm. all the color data would be in it. similar to the css file.
I still think it would be way cooler if it saved the entire BBS and then you could make
different BBSs and then save them and then you could just open the file and
On a different topic, let's figure out what's going on with your line wrapping!
So... it looks like you're using a >80 column terminal. That should be fine, but there was no "column" header field pushed over the net for your message so it couldn't be re-wrapped intelligently by the message viewer. :-(
Your long lines were sent as separate CRLF-terminated paragraphs, rather than a message of just one long-line paragraph, which is now "the norm".
I see you're using Editor "SlyEdit (IceEdit Style)", but I have no idea what version/revision. :-( Are you using the latest?
digital man
Synchronet "Real Fact" #88:
SBBSecho v3.00 was first committed to cvs.synchro.net on Apr-11-2016.
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it could also be a cfg or ini file whatever the direction it goes in would be cool anyways.
Re: Re: Control Panel
By: The Millionaire to Mortifis on Thu Jul 18 2019 14:37:24
it could also be a cfg or ini file whatever the direction it goes in would be cool anyways.
cfg is the superior file format it is much better than these ini and jsons that the people are using these days they really need to get with the program and just standardize on cfg so that we can all store our cfgs in cfgs if you know what i mean it would be so much simpler if they all went in that direction but instead you got some guys they make a ini and other guys they make a json and other guys put it in a excel and then you got your various markup languages that people use and i mean seriously can't we all just agree that cfg is the best and let's just use it
This has been a long test message to see if my line wrapping is fixed. I updated stuff and didn't pay attention to commit messages, shame on me.
On 07-18-19 09:55, Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-
What would you expect a save option to do in the Synchronet GUI? I
don't know what data it would be saving..
i changed back to fseditor.js. was having some problems slyedit.js. you can look in my settings because i am telling the honest truth here.
Re: Control Panel
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jul 18 2019 16:28:39
i changed back to fseditor.js. was having some problems slyedit.js. you can look in my settings because i am telling the honest truth here.
I think you're lying. Looks to me like you're using SlyEdit. I can tell by the letters.
???
I think it was a pretty straightforward message.
i changed back to fseditor.js. was having some problems slyedit.js. you can look in my settings because i am telling the honest truth here.
So... it looks like you're using a >80 column terminal. That should be fine, but there was no "column" header field pushed over the net for your message so it couldn't be re-wrapped intelligently by the message viewer. :-(
Your long lines were sent as separate CRLF-terminated paragraphs, rather than a message of just one long-line paragraph, which is now "the norm".
I see you're using Editor "SlyEdit (IceEdit Style)", but I have no idea what version/revision. :-( Are you using the latest?
Re: Control Panel
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jul 18 2019 04:28 pm
i changed back to fseditor.js. was having some problems slyedit.js. you can look in my settings because i am telling the honest truth here.
What problems were you having? If you let me know, maybe I can try to address those problems.
Nightfox
Re: Control Panel
By: Digital Man to echicken on Thu Jul 18 2019 04:19 pm
So... it looks like you're using a >80 column terminal. That should be fine, but there was no "column" header field pushed over the net for your message so it couldn't be re-wrapped intelligently by the message viewer. :-(
Your long lines were sent as separate CRLF-terminated paragraphs, rather than a message of just one long-line paragraph, which is now "the norm".
I see you're using Editor "SlyEdit (IceEdit Style)", but I have no idea what version/revision. :-( Are you using the latest?
Also, when updating to the latest SlyEdit, one would need to enable the option to save the terminal width in the headers in SCFG.
Nightfox
This has been a long test message to see if my line wrapping is fixed. Iupdated stuff and didn't pay
attention to commit messages, shame on me.
FWIW: oe can use https://www.lipsum.com/ to generate long paragraphs to test with ;)
On 07-18-19 18:30, Rampage wrote to echicken <=-
It would save the BBS, obviously.
from fire, flooding or nuclear attack?? :lol:
On 07-18-19 16:19, Digital Man wrote to echicken <=-
Your long lines were sent as separate CRLF-terminated paragraphs,
rather than a message of just one long-line paragraph, which is now
"the norm".
On 07-18-19 19:46, echicken wrote to The Millionaire <=-
This has been a long test message to see if my line wrapping is fixed.
I updated stuff and didn't pay
attention to commit messages, shame on me.
I see you're using Editor "SlyEdit (IceEdit Style)", but I have no
idea what version/revision. :-( Are you using the latest?
Also, when updating to the latest SlyEdit, one would need to enable
the option to save the terminal width in the headers in SCFG.
im using vertrauen bbs so you have to ask dm that question.
What problems were you having? If you let me know, maybe I can try to
address those problems.
problems with quoting and saving.
On 07-18-19 19:46, echicken wrote to The Millionaire <=-
This has been a long test message to see if my line wrapping is fixed. I updated stuff and didn't pay
attention to commit messages, shame on me.
Nope it's still screwy. :(
It would save the BBS, obviously.
from fire, flooding or nuclear attack?? :lol:
Is that the "Pray" function? ;)
Re: Control Panel
By: echicken to The Millionaire on Thu Jul 18 2019 07:57 pm
Re: Control Panel
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jul 18 2019 16:28:39
i changed back to fseditor.js. was having some problems slyedit.js. you can look in my settings because i am telling the honest truth here.
I think you're lying. Looks to me like you're using SlyEdit. I can tell by the letters.
in my default cfg it says:
E External Editor FsEditor.js
On 07-18-19 20:43, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
It looked fine here on Vertrauen. The "COLS" (columns) header field allowed Synchronet to nicely re-wrap the message text for my
(currently) 80-column terminal.
On 07-18-19 20:59, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: Control Panel
By: Tony Langdon to Rampage on Fri Jul 19 2019 12:19 pm
It would save the BBS, obviously.
from fire, flooding or nuclear attack?? :lol:
Is that the "Pray" function? ;)
Well, an option to save the BBS could have the BBS accept Jesus as its personal savior.
Re: Control Panel
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Thu Jul 18 2019 13:57:26
it would make a file called for example sbbs.theme or theme.sbbs or sbbs.thm. all the color data would be in it. similar to the css file.
I still think it would be way cooler if it saved the entire BBS and then you could make
different BBSs and then save them and then you could just open the file and it would load
that BBS and then if the next day you wanted to run another BBS you could just open a
different file and then suddenly you're running this whole other BBS profile and you could
just switch from one BBS to another whenever you felt like it and there would really be no
limit to how many different BBSs you could run except maybe how much storage space you have
for all of those .bbs files that you have saved so then you need to go to the store and get
a bigger hard drive or maybe several large hard drives and mash them together so that you
have lots of extra space for your .bbs files so you can just keep making more of them and
then you have all of these different BBS profiles to choose from and you can just clickem
and launchem and there you go it's a whole other BBS experience for your users and it's all
saved right there in this one handy convenient file because of the save button in the file
menu that you can click on to save your BBS but hey man maybe that's just me your idea is
probably easier to implement I'm just saying this is a thing that someone could do and it
would be a thing if they did it if you know what I mean
Re: Control Panel
By: echicken to Nightfox on Thu Jul 18 2019 13:39:36
What would you expect a save option to do in the Synchronet GUI? I don't know what data it would be saving..
It would save the BBS, obviously.
from fire, flooding or nuclear attack?? :lol:
Re: Re: Control Panel
By: Tony Langdon to Rampage on Fri Jul 19 2019 12:19 pm
It would save the BBS, obviously.
from fire, flooding or nuclear attack?? :lol:
Is that the "Pray" function? ;)
Well, an option to save the BBS could have the BBS accept Jesus as its personal savior.
I think you're lying. Looks to me like you're using SlyEdit. I can
tell by the letters.
in my default cfg it says:
E External Editor FsEditor.js
that doesnt prove anything. you could have just renamed the .js file
NICE TRY!
It looked fine here on Vertrauen. The "COLS" (columns) header field
allowed Synchronet to nicely re-wrap the message text for my
(currently) 80-column terminal.
Not working offline. :(
Re: Control Panel
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Thu Jul 18 2019 05:00 pm
Re: Control Panel
By: echicken to The Millionaire on Thu Jul 18 2019 07:57 pm
Re: Control Panel
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jul 18 2019 16:28:39
i changed back to fseditor.js. was having some problems slyedit.js. you can look in my settings because i am telling the honest truth here.
I think you're lying. Looks to me like you're using SlyEdit. I can tell by the letters.
in my default cfg it says:
E External Editor FsEditor.js
that doesnt prove anything. you could have just renamed the .js file
NICE TRY!
Re: Control Panel
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Thu Jul 18 2019 10:41 pm
I think you're lying. Looks to me like you're using SlyEdit. I can >> tell by the letters.
in my default cfg it says:
E External Editor FsEditor.js
that doesnt prove anything. you could have just renamed the .js file
NICE TRY!
Yeah, I bet he has gone through that work to trick us all!
Nightfox
it could also be a cfg or ini file whatever the direction it goes in
would be cool anyways.
cfg is the superior file format it is much better than these ini and
jsons that the people are using these days they really need to get
with [...]
i would have to agree that cfg would the best for this idea.
It looked fine here on Vertrauen. The "COLS" (columns) header field
allowed Synchronet to nicely re-wrap the message text for my
(currently) 80-column terminal.
Not working offline. :(
I imagine the problem is that offline mail readers don't have the
logic to look at the COLS header field and re-wrap accordingly.
Re: Re: Control Panel
By: Tony Langdon to Digital Man on Fri Jul 19 2019 05:06 pm
It looked fine here on Vertrauen. The "COLS" (columns) header field
allowed Synchronet to nicely re-wrap the message text for my
(currently) 80-column terminal.
Not working offline. :(
I imagine the problem is that offline mail readers don't have the logic to look at the COLS header field and re-wrap accordingly. I'm not sure if all the same header fields would be there for offline mail readers, either.. I never used offline mail readers very much though.
Yeah, I bet he has gone through that work to trick us all!
oh you think huh? look who has the overactive imagination here.
Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Well, an option to save the BBS could have the BBS accept Jesus as its personal savior.
On 2019 Jul 18 16:54:38, you wrote to echicken:
it could also be a cfg or ini file whatever the direction it goes in
would be cool anyways.
cfg is the superior file format it is much better than these ini and
jsons that the people are using these days they really need to get
with [...]
i would have to agree that cfg would the best for this idea.
then you don't understand ini or json files and what they bring to the table... that and sarcasm O:)
)\/(ark
And to this end they built themselves a stupendous super-computer which was so amazingly intelligent that even before its data banks had been connected up it had started from "I think therefore I am" and got as far as deducing the existence of rice pudding and income tax before anyone managed to turn it off.
... Beware of tossed salads at barbecue joints.
most QWK don't even transfer the new COLS header control line... if they did, the readers don't have a clue what to do with it... remember, QWK offline stuff is 20+ years old... COLS is only a few months old ;)
QWK and QWKE standards don't include the Synchronet-specific HEADERS.DAT file, which is where the COLS field would be found (if a reader wanted to use it). I think offline readers should be able to support long-line-paragraphs ("flowed" format) though. Have you thought about changing SlyEdit to use a flowed output format?
Well, an option to save the BBS could have the BBS accept Jesus as
its personal savior.
I tried baptising my computer, once.
On 07-19-19 09:50, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Not working offline. :(
I imagine the problem is that offline mail readers don't have the logic
to look at the COLS header field and re-wrap accordingly. I'm not sure
if all the same header fields would be there for offline mail readers, either.. I never used offline mail readers very much though.
On 07-19-19 12:46, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-
QWK and QWKE standards don't include the Synchronet-specific
HEADERS.DAT file, which is where the COLS field would be found (if a reader wanted to use it). I think offline readers should be able to support long-line-paragraphs ("flowed" format) though. Have you thought about changing SlyEdit to use a flowed output format?
On 07-19-19 06:50, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-
I tried baptising my computer, once.
https://multimail.sourceforge.io
https://multimail.sourceforge.io
io??? that's not where SF is hosted from...
I imagine the problem is that offline mail readers don't have the
logic to look at the COLS header field and re-wrap accordingly. I'm
not sure if all the same header fields would be there for offline mail
readers, either.. I never used offline mail readers very much though.
QWK and QWKE standards don't include the Synchronet-specific HEADERS.DAT file, which is where the COLS field would be found (if a reader wanted to use it). I think offline readers should be able to support long-line-paragraphs ("flowed" format) though. Have you thought about changing SlyEdit to use a flowed output format?
Re: Re: Control Panel
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Jul 19 2019 12:46 pm
I imagine the problem is that offline mail readers don't have the
logic to look at the COLS header field and re-wrap accordingly. I'm
not sure if all the same header fields would be there for offline mail
readers, either.. I never used offline mail readers very much though.
QWK and QWKE standards don't include the Synchronet-specific HEADERS.DAT file, which is where the COLS field would be found (if a reader wanted to use it). I think offline readers should be able to support long-line-paragraphs ("flowed" format) though. Have you thought about changing SlyEdit to use a flowed output format?
I'm in the process of updating SlyEdit to write output in more of a flowed format. Quoted lines should still be within 80 characters (since they're prefixed with quote charcaters),
but any new text added (such as this
paragraph) should be written as one single line so that the reader can wrap it the best way for the reader's width. I hope this message looks good when read on a BBS or an offline mail reader.
I'm in the process of updating SlyEdit to write output in more of a flowed format. Quoted lines should still be within 80 characters (since they're prefixed with quote charcaters), but any new text added (such as this paragraph) should be written as one single line so that the reader can wrap it the best way for the reader's width. I hope this message looks good when read on a BBS or an offline mail reader.
On 08-05-19 14:14, Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-
I'm in the process of updating SlyEdit to write output in more of a
flowed format. Quoted lines should still be within 80 characters
(since they're prefixed with quote charcaters), but any new text added (such as this paragraph) should be written as one single line so that
the reader can wrap it the best way for the reader's width. I hope
this message looks good when read on a BBS or an offline mail reader.
I'm in the process of updating SlyEdit to write output in more of a
flowed format. Quoted lines should still be within 80 characters
(since they're prefixed with quote charcaters), but any new text added (such as this paragraph) should be written as one single line so that
the reader can wrap it the best way for the reader's width. I hope
this message looks good when read on a BBS or an offline mail reader.
I'm in the process of updating SlyEdit to write output in more of a
flowed format. Quoted lines should still be within 80 characters
(since they're prefixed with quote charcaters), but any new text
added (such as this paragraph) should be written as one single line
Looks good to me in Multimail. :)
I'm in the process of updating SlyEdit to write output in more of a
flowed format. Quoted lines should still be within 80 characters
(since they're prefixed with quote charcaters), but any new text
added (such as this paragraph) should be written as one single line
so that the reader can wrap it the best way for the reader's width.
Apologies. I was slow to realise that feedback might be useful for you. The above paragragh looked great margin to margin in Golded (about 135 char width), in a SSH hookup to my Fido node.
On 08-07-19 09:23, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: Flowed output from editors
By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Wed Aug 07 2019 12:18 pm
I'm in the process of updating SlyEdit to write output in more of a
flowed format. Quoted lines should still be within 80 characters
(since they're prefixed with quote charcaters), but any new text
added (such as this paragraph) should be written as one single line
Looks good to me in Multimail. :)
Thanks. I was hoping someone would be able to confirm with an offline reader.
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