I downloaded a fresh copy of sbbs src and it compiles without any issues, however if any TLS / SSH is enabled sbbs crashes at startup. The last code I can run is from early in the day on 6/3/19 before all the changes to cryptlib where implemented.

If Cryptlib version 3.4.5 incompatable as patched, then where do I go from here? I had been trying to get some help in another message but so far no one has offered any useful assistance.

Is anyone else running a currect ssh build with SSH / TLS on Ubuntu 18.04 32bit?

Thanks,

Nicholas

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Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Fat Rastus to All on Fri Jul 12 2019 01:26 pm

I downloaded a fresh copy of sbbs src and it compiles without any issues, however if any TLS / SSH is enabled sbbs crashes at startup. The last code I can run is from early in the day on 6/3/19 before all the changes to cryptlib where implemented.

If Cryptlib version 3.4.5 incompatable as patched, then where do I go from here? I had been trying to get some help in another message but so far no one has offered any useful assistance.

Is anyone else running a currect ssh build with SSH / TLS on Ubuntu 18.04 32bit?

Ubuntu 18.04 64-bit, not 32-bit. <shrug>

The cryptlib mailing list is here:
cryptlib-request@mbsks.franken.de

Maybe they'll have more tips or suggestions, though, through my experience Deuce is quicker to find/fix issues than the cyryptlib author is. You can find Deuce in #synchronet at irc.synchro.net. Not here.

digital man

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Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Digital Man to Fat Rastus on Fri Jul 12 2019 04:26 pm

Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults

Is anyone else running a currect ssh build with SSH / TLS on Ubuntu
18.04 32bit?

Ubuntu 18.04 64-bit, not 32-bit. <shrug>

After doing some more reading, it would seem that cryptlib 3.4.5 isn't working on the ubuntu 32bit platform.. and yes, this box runs an i686 kernel.

There is a simular issue with Mystic BBS and they recommend using an older version of cryptlib, which DM suggested I try, but unfortunately that is not an option since the older library can't be patched and the build fails.

I've been running, and upgrading, ubuntu 32bit on this box since 2010. It would be a major undertaking to migrate to a new platform and I don't have the time nor the motivation to do so now. If it were just the BBS I'd do it.. but this box runs other servers as well... Oh well.. 32bit OS are dying off and I knew that sooner or later I'd have to migrate.. in this case it will be later...

Thanks,

Nicholas

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On 2019 Jul 12 13:26:44, you wrote to All:

Is anyone else running a currect ssh build with SSH / TLS on Ubuntu
18.04 32bit?

i'm building and running the bleeding edge code over here but i'm on 64bit...

$ uname -a
Linux southeaststar 4.15.0-54-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 24 10:55:24 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

my last update was yesterday, 2019 Jul 12 0245 EDT

can you not run 64bit on that system?

)\/(ark

And to this end they built themselves a stupendous super-computer which was
so amazingly intelligent that even before its data banks had been connected
up it had started from "I think therefore I am" and got as far as deducing
the existence of rice pudding and income tax before anyone managed to turn
it off.
... It's hot. It's sweltering, in fact. And you KNOW you want some.
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Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Fat Rastus to Digital Man on Sat Jul 13 2019 12:48 pm

Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Digital Man to Fat Rastus on Fri Jul 12 2019 04:26 pm

Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults

Is anyone else running a currect ssh build with SSH / TLS on Ubuntu
18.04 32bit?

Ubuntu 18.04 64-bit, not 32-bit. <shrug>

After doing some more reading, it would seem that cryptlib 3.4.5 isn't working on the ubuntu 32bit platform.. and yes, this box runs an i686 kernel.

There is a simular issue with Mystic BBS and they recommend using an older version of cryptlib, which DM suggested I try, but unfortunately that is not an option since the older library can't be patched and the build fails.

So go back to an older version of Synchronet, e.g. ftp://ftp.synchro.net/ssrc317b.tgz


digital man

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Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Fat Rastus to Digital Man on Sat Jul 13 2019 12:48 pm

I've been running, and upgrading, ubuntu 32bit on this box since 2010. It would be a major undertaking to migrate to a new platform and I don't have the time nor the motivation to do so now. If it were just the BBS I'd do it.. but this box runs other servers as well... Oh well.. 32bit OS are dying off and I knew that sooner or later I'd have to migrate.. in this case it will be later...

maybe this is the universe's way of telling you it's time for a change.
perhaps run some of your servers in a vm, too.
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Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: mark lewis to Fat Rastus on Sat Jul 13 2019 03:07 pm

On 2019 Jul 12 13:26:44, you wrote to All:

Is anyone else running a currect ssh build with SSH / TLS on Ubuntu
18.04 32bit?

i'm building and running the bleeding edge code over here but i'm on 64bit...

can you not run 64bit on that system?

Yes, of course it will run 64bit.. And it's nice that you are running bleeding edge code.. But that's not the information I was looking for... ;)

Moreove, I don't know that my issue is a result of the 32bit OS and that is why I asked the question.. to try illiminate that as a possible cause. I just don't have the time or motivation to move everything to a new platform right now just to find out..

Thanks Anyway,

Nicholas

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Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Digital Man to Fat Rastus on Sat Jul 13 2019 01:34 pm

After doing some more reading, it would seem that cryptlib 3.4.5 isn't
working on the ubuntu 32bit platform.. and yes, this box runs an i686
kernel.
There is a simular issue with Mystic BBS and they recommend using an
older version of cryptlib, which DM suggested I try, but unfortunately
that is not an option since the older library can't be patched and the
build fails.

So go back to an older version of Synchronet, e.g. ftp://ftp.synchro.net/ssrc317b.tgz

Huh.. not an answer I was expecting..

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Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: MRO to Fat Rastus on Sat Jul 13 2019 03:32 pm

Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Fat Rastus to Digital Man on Sat Jul 13 2019 12:48 pm

I've been running, and upgrading, ubuntu 32bit on this box since 2010.
It would be a major undertaking to migrate to a new platform and I
don't have the time nor the motivation to do so now. If it were just
the BBS I'd do it.. but this box runs other servers as well... Oh
well.. 32bit OS are dying off and I knew that sooner or later I'd
have to migrate.. in this case it will be later...

maybe this is the universe's way of telling you it's time for a change. perhaps run some of your servers in a vm, too.

Yes, it might be helpful to change architecture.. and my BBS runs on a Digital Ocean Droplet VPS (KMV). I am not sure what is causing the issue.. it could be many things.. since the error is an illegal opcode..it could be an issue with the VM. Migrating to a new OS is an option.. but I'd like to be reasonably sure that it's the correct workaround...

Nicholas

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Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: MRO to Fat Rastus on Sat Jul 13 2019 03:32 pm

Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Fat Rastus to Digital Man on Sat Jul 13 2019 12:48 pm

I've been running, and upgrading, ubuntu 32bit on this box since 2010.
It would be a major undertaking to migrate to a new platform and I
don't have the time nor the motivation to do so now. If it were just
the BBS I'd do it.. but this box runs other servers as well... Oh
well.. 32bit OS are dying off and I knew that sooner or later I'd
have to migrate.. in this case it will be later...

maybe this is the universe's way of telling you it's time for a change. perhaps run some of your servers in a vm, too.

Yes, it might be helpful to change architecture.. and my BBS runs on a Digital Ocean Droplet VPS (KMV). I am not sure what is causing the issue.. it could be many things.. since the error is an illegal opcode..it could be an issue with the VM. Migrating to a new OS is an option.. but I'd like to be reasonably sure that it's the correct workaround...

Nicholas

I have been seeing a lot of discussion lately about VMs, and many OSes, discontinuing 32bit support, since 32bit strict CPU's are deprecated (though I still have an ancient 386 MMX with win3.11 mainboard sitting around collecting dudt LOL)




My teachers always said "You can't make a living looking out a window!", they were wrong, I drive truck :-P

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Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Fat Rastus to Digital Man on Sun Jul 14 2019 03:08 pm

Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Digital Man to Fat Rastus on Sat Jul 13 2019 01:34 pm

After doing some more reading, it would seem that cryptlib 3.4.5 isn't
working on the ubuntu 32bit platform.. and yes, this box runs an i686
kernel.
There is a simular issue with Mystic BBS and they recommend using an
older version of cryptlib, which DM suggested I try, but unfortunately
that is not an option since the older library can't be patched and the
build fails.

So go back to an older version of Synchronet, e.g. ftp://ftp.synchro.net/ssrc317b.tgz

Huh.. not an answer I was expecting..

It's an option. <shrug>

digital man

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On 2019 Jul 14 15:04:00, you wrote to me:

Is anyone else running a currect ssh build with SSH / TLS on Ubuntu
18.04 32bit?

i'm building and running the bleeding edge code over here but i'm on
64bit...

can you not run 64bit on that system?

Yes, of course it will run 64bit.. And it's nice that you are running bleeding edge code.. But that's not the information I was looking
for... ;)

my apologies if i came across crass or some such... i did not intend to... my main point was that i am running with SSH/TLS on ubuntu 18.04 but i'm 64bit...

Moreove, I don't know that my issue is a result of the 32bit OS and
that is why I asked the question.. to try illiminate that as a
possible cause. I just don't have the time or motivation to move everything to a new platform right now just to find out..

i think we found that there is a problem with cryptlib on 32bit, didn't we? i hope it gets fixed soon so you can operate as desired :)

)\/(ark

And to this end they built themselves a stupendous super-computer which was
so amazingly intelligent that even before its data banks had been connected
up it had started from "I think therefore I am" and got as far as deducing
the existence of rice pudding and income tax before anyone managed to turn
it off.
... //When I wrote this code, only God and I understood it. Now, God only knows.
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Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Fat Rastus to MRO on Sun Jul 14 2019 03:19 pm

Yes, it might be helpful to change architecture.. and my BBS runs on a Digital Ocean Droplet VPS (KMV). I am not sure what is causing the issue.. it could be many things.. since the error is an illegal opcode..it could be an issue with the VM. Migrating to a new OS is an option.. but I'd like to be reasonably sure that it's the correct workaround...

how much are you willing to spend? you can get an ovh soyoustart server for pretty cheap. also hetzner does server auctions.

i would suggest installing proxmox on a dedi with decent muscle and memory and making some vms for your various needs.
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Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Digital Man to Fat Rastus on Sun Jul 14 2019 05:42 pm

Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Fat Rastus to Digital Man on Sun Jul 14 2019 03:08 pm

After doing some more reading, it would seem that cryptlib 3.4.5
isn't working on the ubuntu 32bit platform.. and yes, this box runs
an i686 kernel.

So go back to an older version of Synchronet, e.g.
ftp://ftp.synchro.net/ssrc317b.tgz

Yes, that is an option... but I've been waiting for, and am excited to see the new encryption features for some time..

Over the weekend I setup two Ubuntu 18.04.2 VM's.. One running 32bit the other 64it.. I installed synchronet from CVS on both... the 64bit VM ran as expected, however, while sbbs built successfully, it crashed with the error (illegal opcode) on the 32bit install.

So, now that I know the issue is definately related to an incombatibly issue with cryptlib 3.4.5 on the 32bit OS, I am more confortable migrating to a new server as I didn't want to migrate until I was certain it was a fix.

Nicholas

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Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Fat Rastus to Digital Man on Mon Jul 15 2019 12:30 pm

Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Digital Man to Fat Rastus on Sun Jul 14 2019 05:42 pm

Re: Compiles but SSH / TLS still segfaults
By: Fat Rastus to Digital Man on Sun Jul 14 2019 03:08 pm

After doing some more reading, it would seem that cryptlib 3.4.5
isn't working on the ubuntu 32bit platform.. and yes, this box runs >>> an i686 kernel.

So go back to an older version of Synchronet, e.g.
ftp://ftp.synchro.net/ssrc317b.tgz

Yes, that is an option... but I've been waiting for, and am excited to see the new encryption features for some time..

Over the weekend I setup two Ubuntu 18.04.2 VM's.. One running 32bit the other 64it.. I installed synchronet from CVS on both... the 64bit VM ran as expected, however, while sbbs built successfully, it crashed with the error

can i have your linux binaries? i was goofing around and trying to install it on ubuntu in windows and it wont complile right. i want to see if the latest binaries will run.

you can send me a link via private mail via qwk
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