I'm having weird problems with Automessage. Can anyone tell me how to disable it? Thanks

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Re: AutoMessage
By: Steve Wolf to All on Wed May 15 2019 02:09 pm

I'm having weird problems with Automessage. Can anyone tell me how to disable it? Thanks

I seem to remember there being an option to delete the auto-message, but that option disappeared a while ago for some reason.. I'm not sure the auto-message system can be totally disabled though. To delete the auto-message, I think you need to delete the file where the auto-message is saved (I don't remember offhand where it's saved right now).

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Re: AutoMessage
By: Steve Wolf to All on Wed May 15 2019 02:09 pm

I'm having weird problems with Automessage. Can anyone tell me how to disable it? Thanks

I think you could comment out the relevant lines in logon.js or, as the code suggests, remove data/msgs/auto.msg. The relevant
code is:

// Auto-message
auto_msg=system.data_dir + "msgs/auto.msg"
if(file_size(auto_msg)>0) {
f=new File(auto_msg);
if(f.open("rb",true,f.length)) {
buf += asc2htmlterm(f.read(f.length), false, true, P_NOATCODES).replace(/(?:&nbsp;)*<br>/g,'<br>');
f.close();
}

buf += '&nbsp;<br>';
}

To disable it elsewhere I think you'd have to edit the shell or menus that provide access to it.

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Re: AutoMessage
By: Steve Wolf to All on Wed May 15 2019 02:09 pm

I'm having weird problems with Automessage. Can anyone tell me how to disable it? Thanks

You can delete the file data/msgs/auto.msg.

You can give users the 'W' restriction to prevent them from creating (writing) an auto-message.

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On 2019 May 15 17:11:36, you wrote to Steve Wolf:

I'm having weird problems with Automessage. Can anyone tell me how to
disable it? Thanks

You can delete the file data/msgs/auto.msg.

You can give users the 'W' restriction to prevent them from creating (writing) an auto-message.

does that remove the option from the menu(s), too?

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Re: AutoMessage
By: Va7aqd to Steve Wolf on Wed May 15 2019 04:27 pm

I'm having weird problems with Automessage. Can anyone tell me how to
disable it? Thanks

I think you could comment out the relevant lines in logon.js or, as the code suggests, remove data/msgs/auto.msg. The relevant code is:

// Auto-message
auto_msg=system.data_dir + "msgs/auto.msg"
if(file_size(auto_msg)>0) {
f=new File(auto_msg);
if(f.open("rb",true,f.length)) {
buf += asc2htmlterm(f.read(f.length), false, true, P_NOATCODES).replace(/(?:&nbsp;)*<br>/g,'<br>');
f.close();
}

buf += '&nbsp;<br>';
}

To disable it elsewhere I think you'd have to edit the shell or menus that provide access to it.

Thank you for that kind sir. That's a lot of work for one logon option. I gave it my all but still came up with "undifined" something or other. I'll leave it as in. You know what the error is I'm getting. "Synchronet no longer supports DOS programs in Linux"

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Re: AutoMessage
By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Wed May 15 2019 08:36 pm

I'm having weird problems with Automessage. Can anyone tell me how to
disable it? Thanks

You can delete the file data/msgs/auto.msg.

I tried that. It's didn't help. Still get "Synchronet no longer supports DOS programs.

You can give users the 'W' restriction to prevent them from creating
(writing) an auto-message.

does that remove the option from the menu(s), too?

I think you still have to take it out of the menu from what I read.

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Re: AutoMessage
By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Wed May 15 2019 08:36 pm

On 2019 May 15 17:11:36, you wrote to Steve Wolf:

I'm having weird problems with Automessage. Can anyone tell me how to
disable it? Thanks

You can delete the file data/msgs/auto.msg.

You can give users the 'W' restriction to prevent them from creating (writing) an auto-message.

does that remove the option from the menu(s), too?

No.

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Re: AutoMessage
By: Steve Wolf to Va7aqd on Wed May 15 2019 10:00 pm

Re: AutoMessage
By: Va7aqd to Steve Wolf on Wed May 15 2019 04:27 pm

I'm having weird problems with Automessage. Can anyone tell me how to
disable it? Thanks

I think you could comment out the relevant lines in logon.js or, as the code suggests, remove data/msgs/auto.msg. The relevant code is:

// Auto-message
auto_msg=system.data_dir + "msgs/auto.msg"
if(file_size(auto_msg)>0) {
f=new File(auto_msg);
if(f.open("rb",true,f.length)) {
buf += asc2htmlterm(f.read(f.length), false, true, P_NOATCODES).replace(/(?:&nbsp;)*<br>/g,'<br>');
f.close();
}

buf += '&nbsp;<br>';
}

To disable it elsewhere I think you'd have to edit the shell or menus that provide access to it.

Thank you for that kind sir. That's a lot of work for one logon option. I gave it my all but still came up with "undifined" something or other. I'll leave it as in. You know what the error is I'm getting. "Synchronet no longer supports DOS programs in Linux"

That error sounds like it has nothing to do with the auto-message. It sounds like you have a logon event that's configured as a non-native (e.g. DOS) program.

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Re: AutoMessage
By: Steve Wolf to mark lewis on Wed May 15 2019 10:04 pm

Re: AutoMessage
By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Wed May 15 2019 08:36 pm

I'm having weird problems with Automessage. Can anyone tell me how to
disable it? Thanks

You can delete the file data/msgs/auto.msg.

I tried that. It's didn't help. Still get "Synchronet no longer supports DOS programs.

That's because that error has nothing to do with the auto-message. Have you looked at your log files?

You can give users the 'W' restriction to prevent them from creating
(writing) an auto-message.

does that remove the option from the menu(s), too?

I think you still have to take it out of the menu from what I read.

I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

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On 2019 May 15 22:00:34, you wrote to Va7aqd:

You know what the error is I'm getting. "Synchronet no longer supports
DOS programs in Linux"

you have to compile with DOSEMU support...

eg:
------>8 snip 8<------
[...]
BUILDOPTS="DEBUG=1 USE_DOSEMU=1 INSTALL=CLASSIC SBBSDIR=/sbbs SBBSUSER=sbbs SBBSGROUP=sbbs"
[...]
printf "*** compiling new synchronet binaries ***\n"
printf "** SBBS3 **\n"
CMD="cd $SBBSDIR/src/sbbs3"
printf "$CMD\n"
$CMD
CMD="make $BUILDOPTS install"
printf "$CMD\n"
$CMD
printf "\n"
[...]
------>8 snip 8<------

i will say that the error message could use with some refinement... perhaps something like

"Synchronet needs DOSEMU support for DOS programs on Linux."

"no longer supports" seems to say that sbbs flat out doesn't support DOS programs on linux at all which is not correct since it does with DOSEMU support
compiled in...

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On 2019 May 15 22:04:52, you wrote to me:

I'm having weird problems with Automessage. Can anyone tell me how to
disable it? Thanks

You can delete the file data/msgs/auto.msg.

I tried that. It's didn't help. Still get "Synchronet no longer supports DOS programs.

that's about trying to run a DOS program without DOSEMU enabled... the automessage stuff shouldn't have anything to do with DOS or DOSEMU... you've got something else trying to be executed that your sbbs thinks is a DOS program...

You can give users the 'W' restriction to prevent them from creating
(writing) an auto-message.

does that remove the option from the menu(s), too?

I think you still have to take it out of the menu from what I read.

yeah, that's my thinking too... AFAIK, sbbs doesn't have dynamic menus like RA and other systems... i mean, maybe it does if they are scripted in baja or js but the basic menus don't seem to be since their screens have to be edited...

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On 2019 May 16 01:48:34, you wrote to me:

You can give users the 'W' restriction to prevent them from creating
(writing) an auto-message.

does that remove the option from the menu(s), too?

No.

thanks for confirming...

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Re: AutoMessage
By: Digital Man to Steve Wolf on Thu May 16 2019 01:50 am

I'm having weird problems with Automessage. Can anyone tell me how
to disable it? Thanks

I tried that. It's didn't help. Still get "Synchronet no longer
supports DOS programs.

That's because that error has nothing to do with the auto-message. Have you looked at your log files?

I think your right. This must have to do with the ubuntu 18.04 uprade. Many users are complaining about permission problems. If you're running Ubunutu/Lubuntu 16.04 don't upgrade.

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Re: AutoMessage
By: mark lewis to Steve Wolf on Thu May 16 2019 07:13 am

i will say that the error message could use with some refinement... perhaps something like

"Synchronet needs DOSEMU support for DOS programs on Linux."

"no longer supports" seems to say that sbbs flat out doesn't support DOS programs on linux at all which is not correct since it does with DOSEMU support compiled in...

That's not the actual error message - it was misreported.

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On 2019 May 16 09:42:26, you wrote to Digital Man:

That's because that error has nothing to do with the auto-message.
Have you looked at your log files?

I think your right. This must have to do with the ubuntu 18.04 uprade. Many users are complaining about permission problems. If you're
running Ubunutu/Lubuntu 16.04 don't upgrade.

i have one system here that was hosted on kubuntu 14.04... a few months back, i
ran through the update process to take it to 16.04 and then on to 18.04... i've
not had any problems with that system... have you tried compiling fresh after running the cleanall.sh script in /sbbs/src?

cd /sbbs/src
./cleanall.sh


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On 2019 May 16 12:35:54, you wrote to me:

"Synchronet needs DOSEMU support for DOS programs on Linux."

"no longer supports" seems to say that sbbs flat out doesn't support DOS
programs on linux at all which is not correct since it does with DOSEMU
support compiled in...

That's not the actual error message - it was misreported.

ahhh... yeah, i took it at face value because i couldn't remember what it did actually say and i didn't go digging into the sources... i have now and it is something like

Sorry, DOS programs are not supported on this node.

which seems to be per node but the end result is still the same whether per node or globally :)

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Re: AutoMessage
By: Digital Man to Steve Wolf on Wed May 15 2019 05:11 pm

You can delete the file data/msgs/auto.msg.

At some point, wasn't there an option to delete the auto-message from the auto-message option when logged into the BBS (at least for the sysop)? I seem to remember that being a thing.

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Re: AutoMessage
By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Wed May 15 2019 08:36 pm

You can give users the 'W' restriction to prevent them from creating
(writing) an auto-message.

does that remove the option from the menu(s), too?

I don't think that would.. You'd still have to edit your command shell and menu ANSIs to remove the option if you don't want it there.

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On 2019 May 16 09:46:36, you wrote to me:

You can give users the 'W' restriction to prevent them from creating
(writing) an auto-message.

does that remove the option from the menu(s), too?

I don't think that would.. You'd still have to edit your command
shell and menu ANSIs to remove the option if you don't want it there.

yeah, i was asking because the software i used to use had dynamic menus so we only had to set the flags/seclvl for the options and the menus would automatically display or not the valid options for that user... the only thing i used ANSI files for was headers and footers, if that... we had a menu editing
tool to do the menus with... in that tool we created any menus we wanted and linked them together in any way we wanted (gosub, goto)... ANSI/ASCII files were specified with a certain menu option type... if you used drawn menus with all the options, then yeah, you had a bit harder time doing some things...

we also had a "language" tool to edit the language files with... it was similar
to the menu tool and allowed us to edit all of the strings used by the system... those language files were basically the same thing as synchronet's text.dat file... there was one for each language the BBS supported and the operator could easily create their own as needed... each user record had a field for the user selected language so if you preferred spanish or french, there it was... there were some for fake languages like ubbydubby, igpay atinlay, klingon, and similar... you could even have a string display an ANSI/ASCII file if you wanted...

the only place the default strings were hardcoded was in the language tool... when new strings were added, part of your update process was to load the language tool with each of your language files and find the new strings... they
were generally all at the bottom of the list... then you simply hit ALT-D (IIRC) to set the default value into the language file... if you were working on a translation, you'd type that in as needed... it was easy to switch things like the yes/no prompts to no/yes because those "option keys" were also specified in the language file... this allowed for things like 's' to be used for 'si' which is yes in spanish...

sorry for the rambling again... today has not been a very good day... depression is not fun :/

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Re: AutoMessage
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu May 16 2019 09:45 am

Re: AutoMessage
By: Digital Man to Steve Wolf on Wed May 15 2019 05:11 pm

You can delete the file data/msgs/auto.msg.

At some point, wasn't there an option to delete the auto-message from the auto-message option when logged into the BBS (at least for the sysop)? I seem to remember that being a thing.

Not that I recall.

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