Dan Clough wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

"When I was a boy we had to walk to school in the snow, and it was
uphill both ways!"

Well, we had to get the base Solaris OS up and running, and hand-hack
the network configuration enough to get to the online package
repositories to install gcc...



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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dan Clough <=-

"When I was a boy we had to walk to school in the snow, and it was
uphill both ways!"

Well, we had to get the base Solaris OS up and running, and
hand-hack the network configuration enough to get to the online
package repositories to install gcc...

:) No simple task, that.



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Re: Re: Spell checker?
By: Dan Clough to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 01 2019 07:59 pm

Yep, I remember things the same way. The *nix world has gotten
easier over the years, which can only be seen as a Good Thing.

"When I was a boy we had to walk to school in the snow, and it was
uphill both ways!"

:) That's true. I think Linux distros have gotten generally easier to install and set up. I've often tried Linux at home, and years ago I used to have frustrations getting XWindows/XOrg set up and running. And sometimes there would be a distro that would detect and set up my hardware very easily during setup/install, and then the next version of the distro would seem broken (failing to detect & set up my hardware like the previous version did). These days, I really like Linux Mint. In the past, I always liked SuSE (now OpenSuSE), and Fedora always seemed decent too.

Nightfox

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Same here... In fact, I loved using Pine over my POP3 account because I could >rlogin/telnet into my shell account with my ISP from anywhere that I could >dialup or already had internet access and read my mail...

I've not tried it in a long time, but I might ought to just to see if it
still works. :)

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Nightfox wrote to Dan Clough <=-

:) That's true. I think Linux distros have gotten generally easier to install and set up. I've often tried Linux at home, and years ago I
used to have frustrations getting XWindows/XOrg set up and running.

Oh, no - flashbacks of trying to hand-hack X's configuration files...





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Dumas Walker wrote to JASON <=-

I've not tried it in a long time, but I might ought to just to see if
it still works. :)

There's a HOWTO out there showing how to configure PINE to read mail
from on-premise Exchange servers, using LDAP for directory search,
IMAP for mail folders, and so on.



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Nightfox wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Yep, I remember things the same way. The *nix world has gotten
easier over the years, which can only be seen as a Good Thing.

"When I was a boy we had to walk to school in the snow, and it was
uphill both ways!"

:) That's true. I think Linux distros have gotten generally
easier to install and set up. I've often tried Linux at home,
and years ago I used to have frustrations getting XWindows/XOrg
set up and running. And sometimes there would be a distro that
would detect and set up my hardware very easily during
setup/install, and then the next version of the distro would seem
broken (failing to detect & set up my hardware like the previous
version did). These days, I really like Linux Mint. In the
past, I always liked SuSE (now OpenSuSE), and Fedora always
seemed decent too.

There certainly is a lot of variability (is that a word?) between
all the distros. Mint is certainly one of the popular ones these
days, along with Ubuntu of course. I think Manjaro is the latest up-and-coming kid on the block.

I have tried them all over the years, mostly just to see how they
were. I've been a Slackware user for 20 years, and that's what I
use on a daily basis (and what the BBS runs on). Don't see that
changing anytime soon, and probably never. I also dabble with
Raspberry Pi's and the various ARM distros available for them.



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Re: Re: Spell checker?
By: Dumas Walker to JASON on Thu May 02 2019 07:16 pm

Same here... In fact, I loved using Pine over my POP3 account because I
could rlogin/telnet into my shell account with my ISP from anywhere
that I could dialup or already had internet access and read my mail...

I've not tried it in a long time, but I might ought to just to see if it still works. :)

If you're interested in a Free "Shell" account you can head over to http://www.grex.org and apply for onr.

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Re: Re: Spell checker?
By: Dan Clough to Nightfox on Fri May 03 2019 07:44 am

I have tried them all over the years, mostly just to see how they
were. I've been a Slackware user for 20 years, and that's what I
use on a daily basis (and what the BBS runs on). Don't see that
changing anytime soon, and probably never. I also dabble with
Raspberry Pi's and the various ARM distros available for them.

I remember trying Slackware in the early-mid 90s. I initially learned a lot about computers from my dad, who's a computer guy, and he was messing with Slackware in those days when it was still fairly new. I had used Slackware a bit but moved away from it.. I think Slackware was one of the late adopters of a package management system for software, though after doing a quick search online, it looks like it uses a package manager now.

Nightfox

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I remember trying Slackware in the early-mid 90s. I initially learned a lot about computers from my dad, who's a computer guy, and he was messing with Slackware in those days when it was still fairly new. I had used Slackware a
bit but moved away from it.. I think Slackware was one of the late adopters o
a package management system for software, though after doing a quick search online, it looks like it uses a package manager now.

Slackware has always had package management as far as I can remember. It's very
basic but does what you would expect it to do. It's never had dependency handling in any way, and that is still true today. If you install Slackware all
the dependencies are in place and you are good to go.

Slackware is a very basic OS. It comes with a basic desktop (KDE or XFCE) with an email client and web browser but if you want other software you need to get your own somehow. I use the slackbuilds.org website to get source and SlackBuild scripts for most of what I need here. Each SlackBuild script has a webpage that lists the dependencies and you can also get the source and SlackBuilds for those there.

I also use debian and really like the fact that everything your likely to need is pre made for easy instalation (along with dependencies) but I still use slackware myself most of the time. I find slackware to be a very simple and stable distribution.

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Nightfox wrote to Dan Clough <=-

I have tried them all over the years, mostly just to see how they
were. I've been a Slackware user for 20 years, and that's what I
use on a daily basis (and what the BBS runs on). Don't see that
changing anytime soon, and probably never. I also dabble with
Raspberry Pi's and the various ARM distros available for them.

I remember trying Slackware in the early-mid 90s. I initially
learned a lot about computers from my dad, who's a computer guy,
and he was messing with Slackware in those days when it was still
fairly new. I had used Slackware a bit but moved away from it..
I think Slackware was one of the late adopters of a package
management system for software, though after doing a quick search
online, it looks like it uses a package manager now.

Yes, there is a package manager available now. I don't think it
is in the same league as the Debian world's 'apt-get' though.
Most Slack users that I know don't use it. There is a
semi-automated way of installing packages called SlackBuilds
(slackbuilds.org) that makes it easy (one master script) to
compile a desired program's source code into an installable
package. I use that extensively and it's ideal for my needs.

Slackware is not for everybody, but it's the oldest remaining
distro and is the closest to "real Unix" that I know of. Rock
solid stable and reliable - I wouldn't use anything else.



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I've not tried it in a long time, but I might ought to just to see if
it still works. :)

There's a HOWTO out there showing how to configure PINE to read mail
from on-premise Exchange servers, using LDAP for directory search,
IMAP for mail folders, and so on.

I was actually thinking I should try out my shell account and see if it
still works. I actually do use alpine to read my system messages on my systems, like the ones that cron puts out for my cron jobs.

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On 05-02-19 20:00, Nightfox wrote to Dan Clough <=-

:) That's true. I think Linux distros have gotten generally easier to install and set up. I've often tried Linux at home, and years ago I
used to have frustrations getting XWindows/XOrg set up and running.
And sometimes there would be a distro that would detect and set up my hardware very easily during setup/install, and then the next version of the distro would seem broken (failing to detect & set up my hardware
like the previous version did). These days, I really like Linux Mint.
In the past, I always liked SuSE (now OpenSuSE), and Fedora always
seemed decent too.

Well, I have a monitor that both Windows and Linux doesn't handle well, except that in Linux, I can create an xorg.conf file with the correct Modeline, and the monitor then works perfectly.


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Re: Spell checker?
By: Hustler to All on Fri Apr 26 2019 10:08 am

Do any of the online editors compatable with Synchronet BBS have spellcheck?

I just recently added a spell check feature to SlyEdit. If you want to give it a try, you can get the latest SlyEdit .js scripts from the Synchronet CVS in the exec directory (SlyEdit.js, SlyEdit_DCTStuff.js, SlyEdit_IceStuff.js, and SlyEdit_Misc.js). Also, get the dictionary files from sbbs/ctrl (dictionary_en-AU.txt, dictionary_en-CA.txt, dictionary_en-GB.txt, and dictionary_en-US.txt). And in ctrl/SlyEdit.cfg, there's a new configuration option, dictionaryFilenames, which lets you specify a comma-separated list of dictionary files that you want to have SlyEdit use as default dictionaries for spell checking. The filenames specified there can be in the format dictionary_<languageName>, where languageName is one of the ones from the filenames above (en-US, etc.). You can also just specify the language name in that list. For instance, you could specify this to just use the en-US dictionary:

dictionaryFilenames=en-US

There's also a user setting in the user preferences (Ctrl-U) that lets users toggle which dictionaries they want to enable for themselves for spell check.

You'll also need to be sure you have the latest dd_lightbar_menu.js from exec/load.

You can invoke the spell checker with the Ctrl-R hotkey, or from the ESC menu. There's also a user setting to toggle whether you want SlyEdit to prompt for spell check when you save the message.

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I installed the spellchecker. When I'm in the editor and hit "esc" the editor options come up. But if I hit enter on "Spell-check dictionary/dictionaries" I get │!JavaScript /sbbs/exec/SlyEdit.js line 6333: TypeError: dictMenu.AddAdditionalQuitKeys is not a function.| and the editor bails out. Also does the spell checker just look for misspelled words without giving suggestions?? It finds the misspelled word but leaves it up to the user to correct it. It's a huge advancement but I'm curious if corrections will be available in future versions of Syledit. I will try different terminal software to see if I get the same results.

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Re: Spell checker?
By: Hustler to Nightfox on Sun May 26 2019 07:38 am

I installed the spellchecker. When I'm in the editor and hit "esc" the editor options come up. But if I hit enter on "Spell-check dictionary/dictionaries" I get │!JavaScript /sbbs/exec/SlyEdit.js line 6333: TypeError: dictMenu.AddAdditionalQuitKeys is not a function.

Did you get the latest dd_lightbar_menu.js from sbbs/exec? If not, then you probably need to update that.

the editor bails out. Also does the spell checker just look for misspelled words without giving suggestions?? It finds the misspelled word but leaves it up to the user to correct it. It's a huge advancement but I'm curious if corrections will be available in future versions of Syledit. I will try different terminal software to see if I get the same results.

Yes, right now it just prompts the user for a correction. I thought about offering suggestions - Possibly in a later release.

Different terminal software isn't going to change the behavior.

Nightfox

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Re: Spell checker?
By: Nightfox to Hustler on Mon May 27 2019 09:42 pm

I installed the spellchecker. When I'm in the editor and hit "esc"
the editor options come up. But if I hit enter on "Spell-check
dictionary/dictionaries" I get │!JavaScript /sbbs/exec/SlyEdit.js
line 6333: TypeError: dictMenu.AddAdditionalQuitKeys is not a
function.

Did you get the latest dd_lightbar_menu.js from sbbs/exec? If not, then you probably need to update that.

I have it now. dd_lightbar_menu.js is in sbbs/exec/load so I had to do some searching. Works like a charm now.

misspelled words without giving suggestions?? It finds the

Yes, right now it just prompts the user for a correction. I thought about offering suggestions - Possibly in a later release.

It's a great improvement. Most of my misspelled words are typos so just having it scanned before posting is a big help for me. Thanks!



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Re: Spell checker?
By: HusTler to Nightfox on Tue May 28 2019 10:57 am

It's a great improvement. Most of my misspelled words are typos so just having it scanned before posting is a big help for me. Thanks!

No problem.

While making this update, I did think it would be good to have word suggestions and let the user choose one or type their own fix. I may add word suggestions at some point in the future.

Nightfox

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