• u*nix 16bit DOS DOORS

    From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to All on Sunday, January 20, 2019 15:17:45
    I ran out of beer yesterday and the store is closed for a storm day today, so I got to thinking ... I wonder if the Synchronet Dev Team would consider bundling dosemu along with the u*nix source tree in order to minimize the prerequisite requirements and if so, perhaps include a few of the common 16 bit DOS Doors in xtrn :-P

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  • From Ragnarok@VERT/DOCKSUD to Mortifis on Sunday, January 20, 2019 20:07:03
    El 20/1/19 a las 12:17, Mortifis escribió:
    I ran out of beer yesterday and the store is closed for a storm day today, so I
    got to thinking ... I wonder if the Synchronet Dev Team would consider bundling
    dosemu along with the u*nix source tree in order to minimize the prerequisite requirements and if so, perhaps include a few of the common 16 bit DOS Doors in
    xtrn :-P

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    apt-get install dosemu, why must be incluide with sbbs code???!?
    =)

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Ragnarok on Monday, January 21, 2019 00:53:24
    On 2019 Jan 20 20:07:02, you wrote to Mortifis:

    apt-get install dosemu, why must be incluide with sbbs code???!? =)

    my thoughts as well...

    unfortulately, i seem to have a problem here where when dosemu is fired up, it creates a new .dosemu in the sbbs/ctrl directory instead of using the one in ~/.dosemu... the only escape is to terminate the connection so sbbs will recycle the node... i don't know what the problem is, yet, and haven't had time
    to try to dig into it :? this is on ubuntu server 18.04...

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to Ragnarok on Monday, January 21, 2019 08:46:50
    El 20/1/19 a las 12:17, Mortifis escribió:
    I ran out of beer yesterday and the store is closed for a storm day today, so I
    got to thinking ... I wonder if the Synchronet Dev Team would consider bundling
    dosemu along with the u*nix source tree in order to minimize the prerequisite requirements and if so, perhaps include a few of the common 16 bit DOS Doors in
    xtrn :-P

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    apt-get install dosemu, why must be incluide with sbbs code???!?
    =)

    Not every Linux Distro uses apt-get (eg: I use Slackware which is not a Deb* based system ... with that logic why is libmozjs included when one could just sudo apt-get install libmozjs185-dev :-P

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to mark lewis on Monday, January 21, 2019 09:01:55
    On 2019 Jan 20 20:07:02, you wrote to Mortifis:

    apt-get install dosemu, why must be incluide with sbbs code???!? =)

    my thoughts as well...

    That statement is assuming one is using a Debian based system. I am inclined to not use slapt-get on my system as it wreaks havoc on the file system and typically breaks everything


    unfortulately, i seem to have a problem here where when dosemu is fired up, it creates a new .dosemu in the sbbs/ctrl directory instead of using the one in ~/.dosemu... the only escape is to terminate the connection so sbbs will recycle the node... i don't know what the problem is, yet, and haven't had time
    to try to dig into it :? this is on ubuntu server 18.04...

    I am having similar issues, and like you, I haven't had the time to delve into the causes

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Mortifis on Monday, January 21, 2019 09:06:48
    On 2019 Jan 21 08:46:50, you wrote to Ragnarok:

    Not every Linux Distro uses apt-get (eg: I use Slackware which is not a Deb* based system ... with that logic why is libmozjs included when one could just sudo apt-get install libmozjs185-dev :-P

    because it wasn't available like that when the project started using and providing it?

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Mortifis on Monday, January 21, 2019 09:08:46
    On 2019 Jan 21 09:01:54, you wrote to me:

    On 2019 Jan 20 20:07:02, you wrote to Mortifis:

    header problem... i didn't write to Mortifis... i wrote to Ragnarok...

    apt-get install dosemu, why must be incluide with sbbs code???!?
    =)

    my thoughts as well...

    That statement is assuming one is using a Debian based system. I am inclined to not use slapt-get on my system as it wreaks havoc on the file system and typically breaks everything

    i don't use apt-get, either... i use aptitude which handles things a lot better
    than apt...

    unfortulately, i seem to have a problem here where when dosemu is fired
    up, it creates a new .dosemu in the sbbs/ctrl directory instead of
    using the one in ~/.dosemu... the only escape is to terminate the
    connection so sbbs will recycle the node... i don't know what the
    problem is, yet, and haven't had time to try to dig into it :? this is
    on ubuntu server 18.04...

    I am having similar issues, and like you, I haven't had the time to
    delve into the causes

    yeah, i don't know if the problem is in the way that sbbs spawns dosemu or if it is something in dosemu... i suspect it is in the spawning code and may be related to the environment that gets set up... time will tell when someone finally gets around to digging into it...

    i should also note that my ubuntu server 18.04 is x86_64 as well... not sure if
    that makes any difference, though...

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Mortifis on Monday, January 21, 2019 11:50:00
    Re: Re: u*nix 16bit DOS DOORS
    By: Mortifis to Ragnarok on Mon Jan 21 2019 08:46 am

    El 20/1/19 a las 12:17, Mortifis escribió:
    I ran out of beer yesterday and the store is closed for a storm day today, so I
    got to thinking ... I wonder if the Synchronet Dev Team would consider bundling
    dosemu along with the u*nix source tree in order to minimize the prerequisite requirements and if so, perhaps include a few of the common 16 bit DOS Doors in
    xtrn :-P

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    apt-get install dosemu, why must be incluide with sbbs code???!?
    =)

    Not every Linux Distro uses apt-get (eg: I use Slackware which is not a Deb* based system ... with that logic why is libmozjs included when one could just sudo apt-get install libmozjs185-dev :-P

    You have the choice. We include libmozjs (with patches) for obscure OSes/architectures and Windows. :-)



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  • From Dan Clough@VERT/PALANT to Mortifis on Monday, January 21, 2019 16:57:00
    Mortifis wrote to mark lewis <=-

    apt-get install dosemu, why must be incluide with sbbs code???!? =)

    my thoughts as well...

    That statement is assuming one is using a Debian based system.
    I am inclined to not use slapt-get on my system as it wreaks
    havoc on the file system and typically breaks everything

    Agreed. I'm a Slacker too and do things the old fashioned way, or use SBo.
    I do agree though, that dosemu does not need to be included in SBBS.

    unfortulately, i seem to have a problem here where when dosemu is fired up, it creates a new .dosemu in the sbbs/ctrl directory instead of using the one in ~/.dosemu... the only escape is to terminate the connection so sbbs will recycle the node... i don't know what the problem is, yet, and haven't had time
    to try to dig into it :? this is on ubuntu server 18.04...

    I am having similar issues, and like you, I haven't had the time
    to delve into the causes

    There is "DOSemuPath=" setting in sbbs.ini ... default is blank, perhaps putting a path/dir in there would fix it?


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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to Dan Clough on Monday, January 21, 2019 21:41:55
    Mortifis wrote to mark lewis <=-

    apt-get install dosemu, why must be incluide with sbbs code???!? =)

    my thoughts as well...

    That statement is assuming one is using a Debian based system.
    I am inclined to not use slapt-get on my system as it wreaks
    havoc on the file system and typically breaks everything

    Agreed. I'm a Slacker too and do things the old fashioned way, or use SBo. I do agree though, that dosemu does not need to be included in SBBS.

    I used to use Sbo, until it, too, hosed my system. I know DM thinks I bother him a lot, which is true, but Pat would say he is getting off easy :-P

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  • From Dan Clough@VERT to Mortifis on Monday, January 21, 2019 21:35:00
    Mortifis wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    That statement is assuming one is using a Debian based system.
    I am inclined to not use slapt-get on my system as it wreaks
    havoc on the file system and typically breaks everything

    Agreed. I'm a Slacker too and do things the old fashioned way, or use SBo. I do agree though, that dosemu does not need to be included in SBBS.

    I used to use Sbo, until it, too, hosed my system. I know DM
    thinks I bother him a lot, which is true, but Pat would say he is
    getting off easy :-P

    Haha! Probably right!

    I've used SBo stuff a LOT, and haven't had any trouble. I just replied
    to you in IRC recommending SBo for installing Dosemu. It is easy with
    SBo and works perfectly here.

    Good luck!


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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to Dan Clough on Tuesday, January 22, 2019 14:14:41
    Mortifis wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    That statement is assuming one is using a Debian based system.
    I am inclined to not use slapt-get on my system as it wreaks
    havoc on the file system and typically breaks everything

    Agreed. I'm a Slacker too and do things the old fashioned way, or use SBo. I do agree though, that dosemu does not need to be included in SBBS.

    I used to use Sbo, until it, too, hosed my system. I know DM
    thinks I bother him a lot, which is true, but Pat would say he is getting off easy :-P

    Haha! Probably right!

    I've used SBo stuff a LOT, and haven't had any trouble. I just replied
    to you in IRC recommending SBo for installing Dosemu. It is easy with
    SBo and works perfectly here.

    Good luck!

    I have had dosemu installed for sometime, I installed dosemu-20130804_35054ba-x86_64-2_slonly.txz, and it works, however, I cannot find my /sbbs directory on the linux/fs anywhere :-/ so, I folled the link you sent on irc, removedpkg dosemu-20130804_35054ba-x86_64-2_slonly.txz and added the two packages from there, ./dosemu won't run because it is elf32 and I use elf64, so I downloaded and built the sources to no avail ... so bleh, reinstalled sloney and dosemu works but no /sbbs ... no wonder I gave up on dos doors years ago LOL

    maybe I will sudo apt-get dosemu && dosemu-freedos on my raspberrypi and see if I get any further

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  • From Dan Clough@VERT/PALANT to Mortifis on Tuesday, January 22, 2019 20:06:00
    Mortifis wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    I've used SBo stuff a LOT, and haven't had any trouble. I just replied
    to you in IRC recommending SBo for installing Dosemu. It is easy with
    SBo and works perfectly here.

    I have had dosemu installed for sometime, I installed dosemu-20130804_35054ba-x86_64-2_slonly.txz, and it works,
    however, I cannot find my /sbbs directory on the linux/fs
    anywhere :-/ so, I folled the link you sent on irc, removedpkg dosemu-20130804_35054ba-x86_64-2_slonly.txz and added the two
    packages from there, ./dosemu won't run because it is elf32 and I
    use elf64, so I downloaded and built the sources to no avail ...
    so bleh, reinstalled sloney and dosemu works but no /sbbs ... no
    wonder I gave up on dos doors years ago LOL

    Hmph. Strange. I am using that SBo package on Slack64 and it's working.

    maybe I will sudo apt-get dosemu && dosemu-freedos on my
    raspberrypi and see if I get any further

    I think I read somewhere that dosemu won't run at all on a Pi, not
    available for ARM processors I think...


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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to Dan Clough on Wednesday, January 23, 2019 13:07:20
    maybe I will sudo apt-get dosemu && dosemu-freedos on my
    raspberrypi and see if I get any further

    I think I read somewhere that dosemu won't run at all on a Pi, not
    available for ARM processors I think...

    You are right, there! One could use Dosbox (albeit very slow) or QEMU. I did manage to get dosemu working correctly (except for usage with Doors ... need more tweaking) I had a lot of lredir'n to do. The package I am using on slackware (sloney) has freedos bundled in. All this just so I can use thedraw LOL

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Dan Clough on Wednesday, January 23, 2019 19:39:52
    On 2019 Jan 22 20:06:00, you wrote to Mortifis:

    maybe I will sudo apt-get dosemu && dosemu-freedos on my raspberrypi
    and see if I get any further

    I think I read somewhere that dosemu won't run at all on a Pi, not available for ARM processors I think...

    IIRC, the necessary hardware bits for x86 emulation do not exist in those CPUs... that's my take away from the research i did some time back when the topic first came up...

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Dan Clough on Friday, January 25, 2019 08:29:00
    On 01-22-19 20:06, Dan Clough wrote to Mortifis <=-

    I think I read somewhere that dosemu won't run at all on a Pi, not available for ARM processors I think...

    Correct, DOSemu doesn't do any CPU emulation. It needs an x86(64) CPU to run on.


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