I upgraded my binaries and finally put Radius to bed last night - things seem to be working with Binkit for the most part, but I have 3 nodes that are throwing password mismatch errors and not connecting, despite the passwords looking legit.

I think Radius was case-insensitive, from the docs it appears that binkit is?

There's going to be a market for binkit utilities - I'd love to be able to look at a report or a dashboard that shows the last time a node connected. I'm a
hub and want to see if any of my downlinks have disappeared.

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On 2019 Jan 06 12:09:26, you wrote to All:

There's going to be a market for binkit utilities - I'd love to be
able to look at a report or a dashboard that shows the last time a
node connected. I'm a hub and want to see if any of my downlinks have disappeared.

i think my waitingmail bash script could be modified a little to provide something like that... the script scans the BSO for waiting outbound mail, tallies up how much and displays that with the FTN address... i run it via "watch" so it updates every two seconds by default... when it tallies the files, it should be easy enough to find the oldest file's date/time stamp and display it... i know i did that in perl at one time but this script is pure bash so i'd like to try doing it in bash if i can ;)

i generally run a grep to find the first connection problems and see what they are... then email in the wind to query if everything is ok or not... tagged one
earlier that has mail waiting since the 29th... went hunting one down not long ago and found they had left this realm for another... think i might have another one or two like that, too... i'll give another week or two before really digging and possibly having to remove their connection information... that's not a fun ting to have to do :(

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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Sun Jan 06 2019 12:09 pm

I upgraded my binaries and finally put Radius to bed last night - things seem to be working with Binkit for the most part, but I have 3 nodes that are throwing password mismatch errors and not connecting, despite the passwords looking legit.

I think Radius was case-insensitive, from the docs it appears that binkit is?

BinkIt follows the BinkP standard (http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-1026.001) which says that the passwords are case sensitive. So yeah, session passwords are case sensistive.

There's going to be a market for binkit utilities - I'd love to be able to look at a report or a dashboard that shows the last time a node connected. I'm a
hub and want to see if any of my downlinks have disappeared.

That sounds like a pretty easy mod to binkit.js. I'll see if I can throw some stats file together. Maybe data/binkstats.ini.

digital man

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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Sun Jan 06 2019 12:09 pm

I think Radius was case-insensitive, from the docs it appears that binkit is?

BinkIT is case sensitive. letmein, LETMEIN and LetMeIn are all different in the case of BinkIT.. :)

Ttyl :-),
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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: Digital Man to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 06 2019 03:24 pm

There's going to be a market for binkit utilities - I'd love to be able to look at a report or a dashboard that shows the last time a node connected. I'm a
hub and want to see if any of my downlinks have disappeared.

That sounds like a pretty easy mod to binkit.js. I'll see if I can throw some stats file together. Maybe data/binkstats.ini.

I just committed an update to binkit.js and binkp.js that should provide you with a lot of the statitical details you're looking for without having to parse log files.

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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: Al to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 06 2019 03:25 pm

Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Sun Jan 06 2019 12:09 pm

I think Radius was case-insensitive, from the docs it appears that binkit is?

BinkIT is case sensitive. letmein, LETMEIN and LetMeIn are all different in the case of BinkIT.. :)

Is there a BinkP implementation that isn't? CRAM-MD5 authentication is *always* case sensitive and the BinkP specification even states the plain-text password method is case sensitive.

Any BinkP implementation that treated passwords case-insensitively would be
1. Not compliant with the documented specification and the reference implementation (BinkD)
2. Not be able to support CRAM-MD5 auth

digital man

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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: Digital Man to Al on Sun Jan 06 2019 10:14 pm

Is there a BinkP implementation that isn't? CRAM-MD5 authentication is *always* case sensitive and the BinkP specification even states the plain-text password method is case sensitive.

I've never looked at that before. I just swapped the case of a session password I have with a node running Radius/4.010/21.01.2005 and got a password error. Once I swapped the password case back the way it was I got a successful session so I think Radius is case sensitive.

Ttyl :-),
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Hi

I am using Argus it’s free and it works fine for me.

On 02:56 07/01 , Al wrote:

Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: Digital Man to Al on Sun Jan 06 2019 10:14 pm

Is there a BinkP implementation that isn't? CRAM-MD5 authentication is *always* case sensitive and the BinkP specification even states the plain-text password method is case sensitive.

I've never looked at that before. I just swapped the case of a session password
I have with a node running Radius/4.010/21.01.2005 and got a password error. >Once I swapped the password case back the way it was I got a successful session
so I think Radius is case sensitive.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: Digital Man to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 06 2019 10:11 pm

That sounds like a pretty easy mod to binkit.js. I'll see if I can throw
some stats file together. Maybe data/binkstats.ini.

I just committed an update to binkit.js and binkp.js that should provide you with a lot of the statitical details you're looking for without having to parse log files.

Thanks!

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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: Digital Man to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 06 2019 10:11 pm

I just committed an update to binkit.js and binkp.js that should provide you with a lot of the statitical details you're looking for without having to parse log files.

I grabbed binkit.js and binkp.js from CVS this morning, they reflected the changes you committed.

I'm getting this error:

1/7 09:13:23a 1788 BINKP !JavaScript c:\sbbs\exec\binkit.js line 1054: TypeError: bp.remote_addrs is undefined

Is there another dependency for the logging you added?

binkstats.ini looks great, thanks again.

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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Mon Jan 07 2019 09:20:08

I grabbed binkit.js and binkp.js from CVS this morning, they reflected the changes you committed.

I'm getting this error:

1/7 09:13:23a 1788 BINKP !JavaScript c:\sbbs\exec\binkit.js line 1054: TypeError: bp.remote_addrs is undefined

Is there another dependency for the logging you added?

Looks like a new bug. The 'remote_addrs' property isn't guaranteed to be defined when those new log messages are written. (If there's a new connection but the first packet isn't received successfully.)

For DigitalMan's consideration: I wonder if it would be better to use the 'connect_host' property in those messages instead of the 'remote_addrs' array, or a conditional (this.remote_addrs || this.connect_host).

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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Mon Jan 07 2019 09:20 am

Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: Digital Man to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 06 2019 10:11 pm

I just committed an update to binkit.js and binkp.js that should provide you with a lot of the statitical details you're looking for without having to parse log files.

I grabbed binkit.js and binkp.js from CVS this morning, they reflected the changes you committed.

I'm getting this error:

1/7 09:13:23a 1788 BINKP !JavaScript c:\sbbs\exec\binkit.js line 1054: TypeError: bp.remote_addrs is undefined

Is there another dependency for the logging you added?

No, I think you're just hitting a condition I did not. An inbound connection that provided no M_ADR message, I'm guessing? Anyway, should be fixed now. Thanks for the report.

binkstats.ini looks great, thanks again.

Cool. Let me know if you think anything is missing.


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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: echicken to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Jan 07 2019 01:04 pm

Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Mon Jan 07 2019 09:20:08

I grabbed binkit.js and binkp.js from CVS this morning, they reflected the changes you committed.

I'm getting this error:

1/7 09:13:23a 1788 BINKP !JavaScript c:\sbbs\exec\binkit.js line 1054: TypeError: bp.remote_addrs is undefined

Is there another dependency for the logging you added?

Looks like a new bug. The 'remote_addrs' property isn't guaranteed to be defined when those new log messages are written. (If there's a new connection but the first packet isn't received successfully.)

For DigitalMan's consideration: I wonder if it would be better to use the 'connect_host' property in those messages instead of the 'remote_addrs' array, or a conditional (this.remote_addrs || this.connect_host).

BinkP.connect_host (recently added) is for outbound connections ("callouts") only. Anyway, I think I addressed the reported error.

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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: Digital Man to echicken on Mon Jan 07 2019 12:08:43

BinkP.connect_host (recently added) is for outbound connections ("callouts") only. Anyway, I think I addressed the reported error.

I didn't pay close enough attention to where the error was coming from. Thought it was related to the new log output in load/binkp.js. :|

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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Sun Jan 06 2019 12:09 pm

There's going to be a market for binkit utilities - I'd love to be able to look at a report or a dashboard that shows the last time a node connected. I'm a hub and want to see if any of my downlinks have disappeared.

I was looking, and haven't found any yet. Kinda surprised, I'd like to see some myself. If I was a coder I woulda made some by now!
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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: Charles Stephenson to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jan 10 2019 11:24 pm

Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Sun Jan 06 2019 12:09 pm

There's going to be a market for binkit utilities - I'd love to be able to look at a report or a dashboard that shows the last time a node connected. I'm a hub and want to see if any of my downlinks have disappeared.

I was looking, and haven't found any yet. Kinda surprised, I'd like to see some myself. If I was a coder I woulda made some by now!

The latest binkit.js maintains the file data/binkstats.ini, which I think contains all the relevant info you'd want/need.

digital man

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Re: Moved over to BinkIT last night
By: Digital Man to Charles Stephenson on Thu Jan 10 2019 10:05 pm

I was looking, and haven't found any yet. Kinda surprised, I'd like to
see some myself. If I was a coder I woulda made some by now!

The latest binkit.js maintains the file data/binkstats.ini, which I think contains all the relevant info you'd want/need.

I actually saw that by 'mistake' yesterday :)

Thanks!
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