• SMTP question

    From Plt@VERT/MB to All on Monday, December 17, 2018 07:35:33
    Question because I keep having a issue with my ip address being added to the cbl list. When you elnet to sbbs smtp mail server should be displayed without hitting any keys?

    220 sbbs.dynu.net Synchronet SMTP Server 1.679-Win32 Ready

    Is there a way to disable it?

    Thanks

    Phil

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to Plt on Monday, December 17, 2018 09:45:50
    Question because I keep having a issue with my ip address being added to the cbl list. When you elnet to sbbs smtp mail server should be displayed without hitting any keys?

    220 sbbs.dynu.net Synchronet SMTP Server 1.679-Win32 Ready

    Is there a way to disable it?

    Thanks

    Phil

    Disable what exactly; the SMTP Greeting? Yes it can be disabled but I'm sure if you found a way to disable it you'd render your SMTP inoperative. When you telnet to your SMTP Port and see, 220 sbbs.dynu.net Synchronet SMTP Server 1.679-Win32 Ready it is affect identifying itself and waits for the sending SMTP server/client to issue an EHLO (or HELO for older clients) command which identifies itself and if all is well mail services begin, etc. See RFC821 and RFC5321 for more

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Plt on Monday, December 17, 2018 10:20:19
    Re: SMTP question
    By: Plt to All on Mon Dec 17 2018 07:35:33

    the cbl list. When you elnet to sbbs smtp mail server should be displayed without hitting any keys?

    220 sbbs.dynu.net Synchronet SMTP Server 1.679-Win32 Ready

    Is there a way to disable it?

    The server is supposed to send a 220 message, without any prompting from the client, immediately after the connection is opened. Disabling that means breaking your SMTP server, and likely preventing it from working with any client that connects to it.

    What problem are you actually trying to solve? How will this help with you being on the CBL?

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Plt on Monday, December 17, 2018 10:40:36
    Plt wrote:
    Question because I keep having a issue with my ip address being added to the cbl list. When you elnet to sbbs smtp mail server should be displayed without
    hitting any keys?

    220 sbbs.dynu.net Synchronet SMTP Server 1.679-Win32 Ready

    Is there a way to disable it?


    I just did a telnet to port 25 and it showed the 220 banner. It took a few moments but it came up. Maybe you think it isn't being displayed so you hit enter then it pops up rather than just waiting.

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to Nelgin on Monday, December 17, 2018 13:54:44
    Plt wrote:
    Question because I keep having a issue with my ip address being added to the cbl list. When you elnet to sbbs smtp mail server should be displayed without
    hitting any keys?

    220 sbbs.dynu.net Synchronet SMTP Server 1.679-Win32 Ready

    Is there a way to disable it?


    I just did a telnet to port 25 and it showed the 220 banner. It took a few moments but it came up. Maybe you think it isn't being displayed so you hit enter then it pops up rather than just waiting.

    From what I gather (as per discussion on #synchronet) he thinks that if he can disable (or change) the identity of his sbbs smtp server he can circumvent having his IP address blacklisted :-?

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to Plt on Monday, December 17, 2018 14:16:06
    Question because I keep having a issue with my ip address being added to the cbl list.....
    Thanks

    Phil

    There are a few options available:
    1). you could relay your smtp server via vert.synchro.net (likely the easiest) 2). relay your smtp via google mail services
    3). have your dns server register an MX record in there mail exchanger to 'vouch' for your domain
    4) DO THIS ANYWAY ... contact CBL and ask them to remove your ip/domain from their list; they like it when people take the time to communicate with them :)

    Usually getting BL'd is a result of a misconfigured mail server, therefore, being seen as an untrusted mail server. First, ensure that your server is properly configured, taking note, especially, of how you allow your users to use your server (forwarding/relaying?)

    Hope this helps a bit

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to Plt on Monday, December 17, 2018 14:22:24
    Question because I keep having a issue with my ip address being added to the cbl list. When you elnet to sbbs smtp mail server should be displayed without hitting any keys?

    220 sbbs.dynu.net Synchronet SMTP Server 1.679-Win32 Ready

    Also, I might add, typically any mail server running on a Win32 system is considered less secure because Win32 is a less-than-secure OS and is prone to viruses that utilize inherent security-risks and requires considerable more thoughtful service configurations so when an SMTP server sees EHLO *-Win32 is gets it's hackles up in the air

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  • From Plt@VERT/MB to echicken on Monday, December 17, 2018 12:02:14
    Re: SMTP question
    By: echicken to Plt on Mon Dec 17 2018 10:20:19


    I found my answer.

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Plt on Monday, December 17, 2018 13:47:49
    Re: SMTP question
    By: Plt to echicken on Mon Dec 17 2018 12:02:14

    I found my answer.

    Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.

    What was the question?

    What was the answer?

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to Plt on Monday, December 17, 2018 15:02:26
    Re: SMTP question
    By: echicken to Plt on Mon Dec 17 2018 10:20:19


    I found my answer.

    Care to share the answer, just in case anyone else comes across the same issue later?

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to echicken on Monday, December 17, 2018 15:22:32
    Re: SMTP question
    By: Plt to echicken on Mon Dec 17 2018 12:02:14

    I found my answer.

    Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.

    What was the question?

    What was the answer?

    #define N 4

    void* hello (void* myID)
    {
    printf ("Hello from Plt %d
    ", *(int *)myID);
    return NULL;
    }

    int main ()
    {
    int j;
    pthread_t tid[N];

    for (j = 0; j

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Plt on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 07:36:00
    On 12-17-18 12:02, Plt wrote to echicken <=-

    Re: SMTP question
    By: echicken to Plt on Mon Dec 17 2018 10:20:19


    I found my answer.

    Which was...?


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Plt on Monday, December 17, 2018 16:08:36
    Re: SMTP question
    By: Plt to All on Mon Dec 17 2018 07:35 am

    Question because I keep having a issue with my ip address being added to the cbl list. When you elnet to sbbs smtp mail server should be displayed without hitting any keys?

    220 sbbs.dynu.net Synchronet SMTP Server 1.679-Win32 Ready

    Is there a way to disable it?

    What do you want to disable exactly?

    digital man

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Digital Man on Monday, December 17, 2018 19:17:44
    Re: SMTP question
    By: Digital Man to Plt on Mon Dec 17 2018 16:08:36

    220 sbbs.dynu.net Synchronet SMTP Server 1.679-Win32 Ready

    Is there a way to disable it?

    What do you want to disable exactly?

    I think he wants to disable the initial server -> client message and break his mail server.

    It's okay though - he found his answer.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Plt on Monday, December 17, 2018 21:20:54
    Re: SMTP question
    By: Plt to All on Mon Dec 17 2018 07:35 am

    Question because I keep having a issue with my ip address being added to the cbl list. When you elnet to sbbs smtp mail server should be displayed without hitting any keys?


    you are probably part of the ip range that is added to the lists because
    you are on residential.
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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Plt on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 09:38:08
    On 2018 Dec 17 07:35:32, you wrote to All:

    220 sbbs.dynu.net Synchronet SMTP Server 1.679-Win32 Ready

    Is there a way to disable it?

    why? it is supposed to send that...

    )\/(ark

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Mortifis on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 09:39:38
    On 2018 Dec 17 13:54:44, you wrote to Nelgin:

    I just did a telnet to port 25 and it showed the 220 banner. It took a
    few moments but it came up. Maybe you think it isn't being displayed so
    you hit enter then it pops up rather than just waiting.

    From what I gather (as per discussion on #synchronet) he thinks that
    if he can disable (or change) the identity of his sbbs smtp server he
    can circumvent having his IP address blacklisted :-?

    if it is a problem that a dynamic IP has been blacklisted and he got that IP assigned after the transgression, the only real choice is to disconnect and reconnet to get another new IP... hopefully one that is not blocked...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Mortifis on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 01:27:14
    Mortifis wrote:
    Re: SMTP question
    By: echicken to Plt on Mon Dec 17 2018 10:20:19


    I found my answer.

    Care to share the answer, just in case anyone else comes across the same issue
    later?

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to Nelgin on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 16:33:35
    Mortifis wrote:
    Re: SMTP question
    By: echicken to Plt on Mon Dec 17 2018 10:20:19


    I found my answer.

    Care to share the answer, just in case anyone else comes across the same issue
    later?

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    You will quickly learn not to ask.

    Lol, kinda already know this, was an endless back-n-forth about raspberry pi sh*t ... see my little inherent race code post to echicken LOL

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nelgin on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 18:37:35
    Re: Re: SMTP question
    By: Nelgin to Mortifis on Tue Dec 18 2018 01:27 am

    I found my answer.

    Care to share the answer, just in case anyone else comes across the same issue
    later?


    You will quickly learn not to ask.

    yup
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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to mark lewis on Thursday, December 20, 2018 12:09:00
    On 2018 Dec 17 13:54:44, you wrote to Nelgin:

    I just did a telnet to port 25 and it showed the 220 banner. It took a
    few moments but it came up. Maybe you think it isn't being displayed so
    you hit enter then it pops up rather than just waiting.

    From what I gather (as per discussion on #synchronet) he thinks that
    if he can disable (or change) the identity of his sbbs smtp server he can circumvent having his IP address blacklisted :-?

    if it is a problem that a dynamic IP has been blacklisted and he got that IP assigned after the transgression, the only real choice is to disconnect and reconnet to get another new IP... hopefully one that is not blocked...


    I have dynamic dns through Oracle Dyn.com, for a small fee one can add 'mailhop' as a relay server which makes any SMTP server trusted because you use their credentials in conjunction with your oracle account. For now, I am happy to use vert as a relay, as it seems to me, vert has trusted credentials. Though, for my website(s) any smtp sends are relayed via one of my google accounts ... in the end, phil has the issues and has difficulty 'accepting' possible solutions :-P

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  • From Plt@VERT/MB to Nelgin on Sunday, December 30, 2018 22:50:59
    Re: Re: SMTP question
    By: Nelgin to Plt on Mon Dec 17 2018 10:40:36

    I just did a telnet to port 25 and it showed the 220 banner. It took a few moments but it came up. Maybe you think it isn't being displayed so you hit

    Thanks

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  • From Plt@VERT/MB to Mortifis on Sunday, December 30, 2018 22:52:16
    Re: Re: SMTP question
    By: Mortifis to Plt on Mon Dec 17 2018 15:02:26

    I forgot now.

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  • From Plt@VERT/MB to MRO on Sunday, December 30, 2018 22:54:04
    Re: SMTP question
    By: MRO to Plt on Mon Dec 17 2018 21:20:54

    Question because I keep having a issue with my ip address being added to the cbl list. When you elnet to sbbs smtp mail server should be displayed without hitting any keys?


    you are probably part of the ip range that is added to the lists because
    you are on residential.

    Cox communications offer both home and business accounts. I am using a business account.

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EMPTYKEG to Plt on Monday, December 31, 2018 08:53:28
    Re: Re: SMTP question
    By: Mortifis to Plt on Mon Dec 17 2018 15:02:26

    I forgot now.


    Forgot to post ... a quote? :-P

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