On 11-15-18 17:09, Charles Stephenson wrote to All <=-
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(I guess the subject kinda explains it!)
Wondering, has anybody successfully added a dial-up line to Synchronet (Linux) and used a Magic Jack (or any device like it? if it's anthing
out) to add a dial-up modem line to their BBS?
I'm trying to think of a way to add atleast 1 dial-up line, maybe 2 without having to actually have a landline installed. I'm bidding on 2 USR 56k modems on E Bay. If I DO have to have a landline, I'll have to wait til after I move, which wil be in about 2-3 months.
Wondering, has anybody successfully added a dial-up line to Synchronet (Linux) and used a Magic Jack (or any device like it? if it's anthing out) to add a dial-up modem line to their BBS?
Answered this on Facebook, but SEXPOTS or mgetty are your options for answer TL>the modem, and as for VoIP. Try to use the uLAW (or ALaw) codec if you have TL>choice. That will give the highest connect speeds.
... It ain't over, but the fat lady is clearing her throat.
On 11-16-18 12:45, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-nswer
Answered this on Facebook, but SEXPOTS or mgetty are your options for
the modem, and as for VoIP. Try to use the uLAW (or ALaw) codec if youave
choice. That will give the highest connect speeds.
I always wondered about that. I'm not sure if a fax modem would work
for just faxes with the MagicJack setup.
... It ain't over, but the fat lady is clearing her throat.
I don't want to know what she had in it. :P
On 11-15-18 17:09, Charles Stephenson wrote to All <=-
Answered this on Facebook, but SEXPOTS or mgetty are your options for answering the modem, and as for VoIP. Try to use the uLAW (or ALaw) codec if you have a choice. That will give the highest connect speeds.
On 11-18-18 12:55, Charles Stephenson wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I've been looking at sexpots. Seems pretty easy to set up... :)
I did find a old WinModem. Linux 'sees' it, but It doesn't know it's a mdem. gotta figure that out before I get a real modem, USR... which I'm bidding for on E Bay
Regards,
On 11-18-18 12:55, Charles Stephenson wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Yeah Winmodems were always a pain. Seems a lot of USRs getting about. I was never fortunate enough to have one, but I do have several 56k modems.
On 11-18-18 23:25, Charles Stephenson wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Yeah, trying to set up a WinModem in linux back in the day was damn
near impossible! Figured though, 10 years later they fixed it, now that they are pretty much not used anymore, HOPEFULLY they work. I'm still going to get a 'actual' USR modem.... now that I found the WinModem, I can/gonna try to add a line to Syncronet and a line to Mystic... :)
Yeah, trying to set up a WinModem in linux back in the day was damn near impossible! Figured though, 10 years later they fixed it, now that they are pretty much not used anymore, HOPEFULLY they work. I'm still going to get a 'actual' USR modem.... now that I found the WinModem, I can/gonna try to add a line to Syncronet and a line to Mystic... :)
I thought Winmodems relied on Windows software running on the host to communicate with the modem - that way they could make the modem cheaper, almost just a physical interface to the phone line with all of the intelligence in the PC?
I think that's essentially true, though I have no idea if anyone ever bothered to write drivers to support these devices on other platforms (probably not). As I have abundant serial ports I just use an external modem here.
impossible! Figured though, 10 years later they fixed it, now that they are pretty much not used anymore, HOPEFULLY they work. I'm still going to get a 'actual' USR modem.... now that I found the WinModem, I can/gonna try to add a line to Syncronet and a line to Mystic... :)
Regards,
Somewhere around 2000 I bought a computer that came with a modem on board. I didn't know it at the time but it was a winmodem. I couldn't use it with linux. Then one day I stumbled upon a shareware driver for it (for *nix). I didn't have a great deal of hope it would work. I built a kernel module for it and rebooted, and it worked!
I always disliked Winmodems because you had to go through stuff like that to get them to work sometimes, and sometimes they just didn't work at all. Also, I just didn't generally like that they relied on software in order to function. It was always nice to have a modem that you could plug into a serial port and it would just work (or a hardware internal modem that appeared on a COM port that would just work).
On 11-20-18 10:08, Nightfox wrote to Al <=-
I always disliked Winmodems because you had to go through stuff like
that to get them to work sometimes, and sometimes they just didn't work
at all. Also, I just didn't generally like that they relied on
software in order to function. It was always nice to have a modem that
you could plug into a serial port and it would just work (or a hardware internal modem that appeared on a COM port that would just work).
work at all. Also, I just didn't generally like that they relied on
software in order to function. It was always nice to have a modem
There used to be performance issues too, with the processors of the day, but those would be a non issue these days, unless running on 15-20 year old or _very_ low end hardware.
I always disliked Winmodems because you had to go through stuff like that to get them to work sometimes, and sometimes they just didn't work at all. Also, I just didn't generally like that they relied on software in order to function. It was always nice to have a modem that you could plug into a serial port and it would just work (or a hardware internal modem that appeared on a COM port that would just work).
modem that appeared on a COM port that would just work).
Being a sysop, scrimping for a few dollars on a WinModem never made a lot of sense. I'd find a 14.4 Sportster when the 28.8s came around, then a 28.8 when 33.6 went mainstream.
On 11-20-18 14:53, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
There used to be performance issues too, with the processors of the day, but those would be a non issue these days, unless running on 15-20 year old or _very_ low end hardware.
Yeah, that's one reason I didn't like winmodems. There was also a
similar trend in PC audio, with codec-based onboard audio becoming
common on motherboards. I believe those types of audio chipsets also
relied on some processor power, whereas I always preferred dedicated
audio cards with their own processing hardware. I imagine it's not a
big issue these days, but if too many components starte relying on processor power, it will add up and could cause a noticeable
performance hit.
On 11-20-18 15:26, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-
Being a sysop, scrimping for a few dollars on a WinModem never made a
lot of sense. I'd find a 14.4 Sportster when the 28.8s came around,
then a 28.8 when 33.6 went mainstream.
relied on some processor power, whereas I always preferred dedicated
audio cards with their own processing hardware. I imagine it's not
Yeah, I preferred dedicated hardware too, though these days there's good arguments for software based systems - the processing power available nowadays is orders of magnitude greater, and easier upgrades, in the event of a bug in the DSP algorithms - simply upgrade the driver.
I avoided Winmodems like the plague, because by that time, most of my modem activity took place on Linux or OS/2, where a Winmodem simply wouldn't work.
On 11-21-18 09:51, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
True, though one reason I prefer hardware-based devices is that if I decide to switch from Windows to Linux (or perhaps another OS), driver support for hardware-based devices is more likely to be there.
On 11-21-18 09:58, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Around 1996 I think, I bought an internal modem from a local computer parts store and planned to use it in OS/2. It wasn't a Winmodem but it was plug-and-play. It worked in OS/2, but I seem to remember that
since it was plug-and-play, it could have a different COM port after rebooting the computer or something. I decided to return it to the
store the next day for a refund, and the guy there asked why and I explained I had a hard time getting it working properly in OS/2. The
guy laughed and asked why I was using OS/2 or something.. He directed
me to another guy at the store who said "Sorry, we don't buy used hardware." I said I had just bought it there the day before and had a receipt. They took it back, but they wrote me a check for the refund..
It seemed sketchy and weird, the way they handled the return. The
check was good though. The store closed down not too long after that.
On 11-18-18 23:25, Charles Stephenson wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
You could always cheat and run the modem on a Windows box with SEXPOTS, and point the session to the actual BBS(s). :D
Re: Re: Synchronet/Modems/Magic Jack/Linux
By: Charles Stephenson to Tony Langdon on Sun Nov 18 2018 11:25 pm
I thought Winmodems relied on Windows software running on the host to communicate with the modem - that way they could make the modem cheaper, almost just a physical interface to the phone line with all of the intelligence in the PC?
I think that's essentially true, though I have no idea if anyone ever bothered to write drivers to support these devices on other platforms (probably not). As I have abundant serial ports I just use an external modem here.
On 11-20-18 15:26, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-
Being a sysop, scrimping for a few dollars on a WinModem never made a
lot of sense. I'd find a 14.4 Sportster when the 28.8s came around,
then a 28.8 when 33.6 went mainstream.
I avoided Winmodems like the plague, because by that time, most of my modem >activity took place on Linux or OS/2, where a Winmodem simply wouldn't work.
.... 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence?
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On 11-20-18 19:44, Charles Stephenson wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
You could always cheat and run the modem on a Windows box with SEXPOTS, and point the session to the actual BBS(s). :D
That's doing a little more than I wanna! 1) I don't want another
computer, I run EVERYTHING from one desktop, and I do the work from my laptop 2) I hate windows! :)
On 11-21-18 17:56, Plt wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
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Tony
Are you dialup
... Chuck Norris can divide by zero.
On 11-21-18 20:37, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
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Tony,
... Chuck Norris can divide by zero.
Is that why 0 shows up with a dividing slash in it?? <G>
On 11-20-18 19:44, Charles Stephenson wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
computer, I run EVERYTHING from one desktop, and I do the work from
my laptop 2) I hate windows! :)
Fair enough, was just floating an option. :)
On 11-21-18 17:56, Plt wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
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Tony
Are you dialup
Not ATM. I've toyed with adding dialup support as a technical exercise, but >highly doubtful anyone would use it around here. Nowadays I find mobile >Internet or wifi hotspots much more plentiful than free phone lines. Even I'd >struggle to use mu own dialup BBS when travelling nowadays - there was once a >time when I used to plug in, dialup and download a Bluewave packet. :)
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On 11-23-18 01:37, Charles Stephenson wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I am thinking about getting a faster desktop, although what I have rns fine, Still, if I find something nice, faster and cheap I'm getting it
On 11-24-18 20:00, Plt wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
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I rennet those days back in the 90’s atdt was cool.
Not ATM. I've toyed with adding dialup support as a technical exercise, but highly doubtful anyone would use it around here. Nowadays I find mobile Internet or wifi hotspots much more plentiful than free phone lines. Even I'd struggle to use mu own dialup BBS when travelling nowadays - there was
On 12-30-18 22:26, Plt wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I agree and the days of dailup is dead.
I agree and the days of dailup is dead.
I agree and the days of dailup is dead.
OK, so what is the phone number? I would like to try it with my C64.
Alan
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