• Greetings

    From Minex@VERT/TDOD to All on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 08:19:19
    New Synchronet BBS system here. I JUST managed to get DOVE-Net setup on my system and am learning an the new terms and quirks of the system. I'm surprised as to how easy it was to get running on my Raspberry Pi 3 B+.
    Anyway, one question. Is it possible to send a message directly to another user on another BBS using this system privately or are all messages publicly posted?

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Minex on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 10:40:08
    Minex wrote:
    New Synchronet BBS system here. I JUST managed to get DOVE-Net setup on my system and am learning an the new terms and quirks of the system. I'm surprised as to how easy it was to get running on my Raspberry Pi 3 B+. Anyway, one question. Is it possible to send a message directly to another user on another BBS using this system privately or are all messages publicly posted?

    If you're using the classic menu, you can go to E for Read/Send email. Then send a netmail. You can then put in a FTN address such as sysop@1:124/5016 which will be routed to me.

    Depending on how your mailer is setup, you may be able to send direct to me
    or you may route through a hub. Of course, if your message goes via another system then there's nothing stopping the packets from being examined by
    another sysop. I can't see that being very likely, tbh. I've got better
    things to do than that.

    Anyway, welcome board.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Minex on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 08:52:02
    Re: Greetings
    By: Minex to All on Tue Oct 09 2018 08:19 am

    Anyway, one question. Is it possible to send a message directly to another user on another BBS using this system privately or are all messages publicly posted?

    Yes, you can do that via QWK, as long as there's a path accessible to both your BBS and the other BBS via QWK. For instance, if you wanted to send a message to me, you'd go to the email menu and send an email to nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST (which means it would be routed through VERT, then to DIGDIST, which is my BBS). Or you could send a message directly to someone at Vertrauen, such as nightfox@VERT.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Minex on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 10:52:05
    Re: Greetings
    By: Minex to All on Tue Oct 09 2018 08:19 am

    New Synchronet BBS system here. I JUST managed to get DOVE-Net setup on my system and am learning an the new terms and quirks of the system. I'm surprised as to how easy it was to get running on my Raspberry Pi 3 B+.

    Cool, nice to hear.

    Anyway, one question. Is it possible to send a message directly to another user on another BBS using this system privately or are all messages publicly posted?

    Yes. You can send "netmail" (e.g. hit 'M' to reply privately to this message, just to me) or you can send inter-bbs private messages ('I' from the "Chat" menu).

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 10:53:12
    Re: Greetings
    By: Nightfox to Minex on Tue Oct 09 2018 08:52 am

    Re: Greetings
    By: Minex to All on Tue Oct 09 2018 08:19 am

    Anyway, one question. Is it possible to send a message directly to another user on another BBS using this system privately or are all messages publicly posted?

    Yes, you can do that via QWK, as long as there's a path accessible to both your BBS and the other BBS via QWK. For instance, if you wanted to send a message to me, you'd go to the email menu and send an email to nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST (which means it would be routed through VERT, then to DIGDIST, which is my BBS). Or you could send a message directly to someone at Vertrauen, such as nightfox@VERT.

    The routing is normally automatic (in Synchronet), so just "nightfox@DIGDIST" should work everywhere.

    digital man

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 11:56:24
    Re: Greetings
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Oct 09 2018 10:53 am

    The routing is normally automatic (in Synchronet), so just "nightfox@DIGDIST" should work everywhere.

    Ah, didn't know that. So even if their BBS doesn't connect directly to mine, nightfox@DIGDIST could still be routed through VERT?

    Nightfox

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to Minex on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 16:15:23
    New Synchronet BBS system here. I JUST
    managed to get DOVE-Net setup on my
    system and am learning an the new terms
    and quirks of the system. I'm
    surprised as to how easy it was to get
    running on my Raspberry Pi 3 B+
    Sweet, my board runs on an RPI as well


    Anyway, one question. Is it possible to
    send a message directly to another
    user on another BBS using this system
    privately or are all messages publicly
    posted?

    Glad everyone was able to help you with that
    one :) Welcome to the Dove-Net Community and
    the SBBS Syops club lol

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 13:30:44
    Re: Greetings
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Oct 09 2018 11:56 am

    Re: Greetings
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Oct 09 2018 10:53 am

    The routing is normally automatic (in Synchronet), so just "nightfox@DIGDIST" should work everywhere.

    Ah, didn't know that. So even if their BBS doesn't connect directly to mine, nightfox@DIGDIST could still be routed through VERT?

    Right.

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #19:
    Oh then, maybe it's not green. Anyway this is what I sleep in sometimes.
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Minex on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 11:09:00
    On 10-09-18 08:19, Minex wrote to All <=-

    @TZ: 4168
    New Synchronet BBS system here. I JUST managed to get DOVE-Net setup
    on my system and am learning an the new terms and quirks of the system.
    I'm surprised as to how easy it was to get running on my Raspberry Pi
    3 B+. Anyway, one question. Is it possible to send a message directly
    to another user on another BBS using this system privately or are all messages publicly posted?

    You can send netmail on DOVEnet by going into the E-mail area, then Send Netmail. The destination would be user@address, where "address" is the QWK name of the board the user is from. For example, you can reach me by sending a netmail to vk3jed@freeway (try it if you like!).


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nelgin on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 11:20:00
    On 10-09-18 10:40, Nelgin wrote to Minex <=-

    If you're using the classic menu, you can go to E for Read/Send email. Then send a netmail. You can then put in a FTN address such as sysop@1:124/5016 which will be routed to me.

    Given the OP is posting from QWK and has just got DOVE up and running, a QWK netmail address would be more appropriate (e.g. vk3jed@freeway for me or nelgin@eotlbbs for you)

    Depending on how your mailer is setup, you may be able to send direct
    to me or you may route through a hub. Of course, if your message goes
    via another system then there's nothing stopping the packets from being examined by another sysop. I can't see that being very likely, tbh.
    I've got better things to do than that.

    QWK routing is automatically configured. Each Synchronet BBS collects routing information as QWK mail is processed. The routing is a bit like UUCP bang path addressing, except slashes (/) are used instead of bangs (!) to separate hosts along the path.

    FTN is a different ball game, but I don't think the OP has gone down the FTN road yet.

    Might send you a QWK netmail as a demonstration. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Digital Man on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 11:21:00
    On 10-09-18 10:53, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-

    The routing is normally automatic (in Synchronet), so just "nightfox@DIGDIST" should work everywhere.


    Auto routing has worked every time for me, I have exchanged a few QWK netmails with people.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 11:22:00
    On 10-09-18 11:56, Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-

    Ah, didn't know that. So even if their BBS doesn't connect directly to mine, nightfox@DIGDIST could still be routed through VERT?

    Yes, and if you use Synchronet's netmail menu option, when you enter user@BBSID, Synchronet will automatically put in the full route into the To address.


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  • From Minex@VERT/TDOD to All on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 17:11:49
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Nelgin to Minex on Tue Oct 09 2018 10:40 am

    Nice. Thanks for all the quick responses! In regards to this response, this assumes that you have FidoNet working? This is the next task I want to try and conquer. I tried to follow various resources across the Internet in getting FidoNet on Synchronet but thats proving to be difficult. Its definitely more difficult than DOVE-Net.

    To kick this off, it looks like I need a front end mailer? Is there something that can accomplish this on a rasperry pi (where my Synchronet BBS is running)? Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet number or any FidoNet capabilities yet, nor have I ever setup FidoNet.

    Nelgin Wrote:
    If you're using the classic menu, you can go to E for Read/Send email. Then send a netmail. You can then put in a FTN address such as sysop@1:124/5016 which will be routed to me.

    Depending on how your mailer is setup, you may be able to send direct to me or you may route through a hub. Of course, if your message goes via another system then there's nothing stopping the packets from being examined by another sysop. I can't see that being very likely, tbh. I've got better things to do than that.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Minex on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 20:46:19
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Minex to All on Tue Oct 09 2018 05:11 pm

    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Nelgin to Minex on Tue Oct 09 2018 10:40 am

    Nice. Thanks for all the quick responses! In regards to this response, this assumes that you have FidoNet working? This is the next task I want to try and conquer. I tried to follow various resources across the Internet in getting FidoNet on Synchronet but thats proving to be difficult. Its definitely more difficult than DOVE-Net.

    To kick this off, it looks like I need a front end mailer?

    A mailer, yes, not necessarily a "front end mailer" (that's the old POTS style which is pretty obsolete today).

    Is there
    something that can accomplish this on a rasperry pi (where my Synchronet BBS is running)?

    Yes. If you recently installed Synchronet, then you most likely already have BinkIt (exec/binkit.js): http://wiki.synchro.net/module:binkit

    Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet number or any FidoNet
    capabilities yet, nor have I ever setup FidoNet.

    At least you won't bring any preconceived notions with you. :-)

    digital man

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Minex on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 20:26:10
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Minex to All on Tue Oct 09 2018 05:11 pm

    To kick this off, it looks like I need a front end mailer? Is there something that can accomplish this on a rasperry pi (where my Synchronet BBS is running)? Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet number or any FidoNet capabilities yet, nor have I ever setup FidoNet.

    There is binkit.js in your exec directory. It's a JS mailer written for Synchronet. I've been using it for about a year with good results.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Minex on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 04:34:50
    Minex wrote:
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Nelgin to Minex on Tue Oct 09 2018 10:40 am

    Nice. Thanks for all the quick responses! In regards to this response, this
    assumes that you have FidoNet working? This is the next task I want to try and
    conquer. I tried to follow various resources across the Internet in getting FidoNet on Synchronet but thats proving to be difficult. Its definitely more
    difficult than DOVE-Net.

    To kick this off, it looks like I need a front end mailer? Is there something
    that can accomplish this on a rasperry pi (where my Synchronet BBS is running)?
    Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet number or any FidoNet capabilities yet,
    nor have I ever setup FidoNet.

    Nelgin Wrote:
    If you're using the classic menu, you can go to E for Read/Send email. Then
    send a netmail. You can then put in a FTN address such as sysop@1:124/5016
    which will be routed to me.

    Depending on how your mailer is setup, you may be able to send direct to me
    or you may route through a hub. Of course, if your message goes via another
    system then there's nothing stopping the packets from being examined by
    another sysop. I can't see that being very likely, tbh. I've got better
    things to do than that.

    As others have said, BinkIT comes with sbbs but I don't use it, I use binkd
    and have had a lot of success with it. It's another bit to configure but I don't mind. If you want the fullu integrated approach then BinkIT is the way
    to go.

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Minex on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 04:40:29
    Minex wrote:
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Nelgin to Minex on Tue Oct 09 2018 10:40 am

    Nice. Thanks for all the quick responses! In regards to this response, this
    assumes that you have FidoNet working? This is the next task I want to try and
    conquer. I tried to follow various resources across the Internet in getting FidoNet on Synchronet but thats proving to be difficult. Its definitely more
    difficult than DOVE-Net.

    To kick this off, it looks like I need a front end mailer? Is there something
    that can accomplish this on a rasperry pi (where my Synchronet BBS is running)?
    Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet number or any FidoNet capabilities yet,
    nor have I ever setup FidoNet.

    Nelgin Wrote:
    If you're using the classic menu, you can go to E for Read/Send email. Then
    send a netmail. You can then put in a FTN address such as sysop@1:124/5016
    which will be routed to me.

    Depending on how your mailer is setup, you may be able to send direct to me
    or you may route through a hub. Of course, if your message goes via another
    system then there's nothing stopping the packets from being examined by
    another sysop. I can't see that being very likely, tbh. I've got better
    things to do than that.

    Oh, additionally. It looks Terry Barlow is the RC for Colorado. He will be
    able to tell you who to contact to get a fidonet node number. tbarlow550@gmail.com

    Once set up successfully, there's other networks you can join, which are
    mostly empty and consist of "is this thing working" type messages but still, there's stuff out there. Look for "othernets" as they're known.

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Minex on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 07:30:50
    On 2018 Oct 09 17:11:48, you wrote to All:

    To kick this off, it looks like I need a front end mailer? Is there something that can accomplish this on a rasperry pi (where my Synchronet BBS is running)? Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet number or any FidoNet capabilities yet, nor have I ever setup FidoNet.

    synchronet comes with BinkIT which is a binkp implementation... most FTN mail is transferred via the binkp protocol... BinkIT seems to work pretty darned well for its intended purpose... take it from a long time Fidonet Operator who has used FrontDoor since joining fidonet back in the mid '80s and had a hybrid setup integrating binkd into his frontdoor setup since binkd appeared on the market... BinkIT is not graphical and really doesn't need to be... all it does is send and receive files which it hands of to the mail tosser... if you are also handling file distribution with TIC files, the a FDN processor is used... Synchronet comes with TickIT for this part of the task if you elect to handle FDN traffic...

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Tony Langdon on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 09:55:05
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Wed Oct 10 2018 11:22 am

    Ah, didn't know that. So even if their BBS doesn't connect directly
    to mine, nightfox@DIGDIST could still be routed through VERT?

    Yes, and if you use Synchronet's netmail menu option, when you enter user@BBSID, Synchronet will automatically put in the full route into the To address.

    But what if you don't have a connection to the destination BBS? If your BBS or that other BBS aren't set up on Dove-Net, for instance, and neither you nor the other BBS call each other to exchange messages, then I'm wondering how the message would get there.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:24:44
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Nightfox to Tony Langdon on Wed Oct 10 2018 09:55 am

    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Wed Oct 10 2018 11:22 am

    Ah, didn't know that. So even if their BBS doesn't connect directly
    to mine, nightfox@DIGDIST could still be routed through VERT?

    Yes, and if you use Synchronet's netmail menu option, when you enter user@BBSID, Synchronet will automatically put in the full route into the To address.

    But what if you don't have a connection to the destination BBS? If your BBS or that other BBS aren't set up on Dove-Net, for instance, and neither you nor the other BBS call each other to exchange messages, then I'm wondering how the message would get there.

    Both the systems have to be the on the same QWK network. Similar concept as FidoNet (except the routing information is maintained on all the leaf nodes with QWKnet).

    digital man

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Nightfox on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 13:54:40
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Nightfox to Tony Langdon on Wed Oct 10 2018 09:55:05

    But what if you don't have a connection to the destination BBS? If your BBS or that other BBS aren't set up on Dove-Net, for instance, and neither you nor the other BBS call each other to exchange messages, then I'm wondering how the message would get there.

    You have a connection with the other BBS by virtue of sharing a hub with it. Or you don't, and your message will not get there. Without an FTN-style nodelist your BBS won't know how to make a direct connection to [QWKID].

    How Synchronet determines QWK netmail routing I don't know, but I would guess the 'qwknodes' utility sheds some light. It scans QWK-networked subs and assembles lists of routes, nodes, and users based on messages it finds there. Maybe there's a fallback to your first/only QWK hub if that fails, or maybe in some cases you do need to specify the node & hub when addressing the message.

    Or perhaps it's not so sophisticated and just sends something that looks like QWK netmail without a specified hub through your first hub and hopes for the best.

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to Digital Man on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 15:45:46


    Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet number or any FidoNet capabilities yet, nor have I ever setup FidoNet.

    At least you won't bring any preconceived notions with you. :-)

    digital man

    LOL how esoteric :) I was thinking about FN yesterday then remembered why I dropped it ... perhaps it is worth a look at again since the 'children' have either grown up or have moved on...though I am happy with DOVE-Net as my only old school forums :)

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to echicken on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:42:17
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Wed Oct 10 2018 01:54 pm

    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Nightfox to Tony Langdon on Wed Oct 10 2018 09:55:05

    But what if you don't have a connection to the destination BBS? If your BBS or that other BBS aren't set up on Dove-Net, for instance, and neither you nor the other BBS call each other to exchange messages, then I'm wondering how the message would get there.

    You have a connection with the other BBS by virtue of sharing a hub with it. Or you don't, and your message will not get there. Without an FTN-style nodelist your BBS won't know how to make a direct connection to [QWKID].

    How Synchronet determines QWK netmail routing I don't know, but I would guess the 'qwknodes' utility sheds some light. It scans QWK-networked subs and assembles lists of routes, nodes, and users based on messages it finds there. Maybe there's a fallback to your first/only QWK hub if that fails, or maybe in some cases you do need to specify the node & hub when addressing the message.

    The same logic (from qwknotes) is built into the Synchronet QWK/REP packet import logic, so it automatically creates/maintains the data/qnet/route.dat file.

    Or perhaps it's not so sophisticated and just sends something that looks like QWK netmail without a specified hub through your first hub and hopes for the best.

    It's a *little* more sophisticated than that. :-)

    digital man

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:43:23
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Oct 10 2018 10:24 am

    But what if you don't have a connection to the destination BBS? If

    Both the systems have to be the on the same QWK network. Similar concept as FidoNet (except the routing information is maintained on all the leaf nodes with QWKnet).

    Makes sense.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:45:34
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Oct 10 2018 10:24 am

    Both the systems have to be the on the same QWK network. Similar concept as FidoNet (except the routing information is maintained on all the leaf nodes with QWKnet).

    What if the BBSes are both on Dove-Net, and also one of the BBSes hosts another QWK network that the other BBS accesses? I host a couple of QWK networks, so would a message to nightfox@DIGDIST get routed both through VERT and directly to my BBS from the other BBS?

    Nightfox

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  • From Minex@VERT/TDOD to Nelgin on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 09:15:09
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Nelgin to Minex on Wed Oct 10 2018 04:40 am

    This is perfect, thanks! I was stuck on the part of the instructions indicating that I need to send a NetMail to the temporary address listed in the fidonet policy4 document. It looks like I have NetMail working, but the Policy4 document lists nothing about a temporary address. I'll just contact Terry.

    Nelgin wrote:
    Oh, additionally. It looks Terry Barlow is the RC for Colorado. He will be able to tell you who to contact to get a fidonet node number. tbarlow550@gmail.com

    Once set up successfully, there's other networks you can join, which are mostly empty and consist of "is this thing working" type messages but still, there's stuff out there. Look for "othernets" as they're known.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 14:06:50
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Oct 10 2018 12:45 pm

    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Oct 10 2018 10:24 am

    Both the systems have to be the on the same QWK network. Similar concept as FidoNet (except the routing information is maintained on all the leaf nodes with QWKnet).

    What if the BBSes are both on Dove-Net, and also one of the BBSes hosts another QWK network that the other BBS accesses? I host a couple of QWK networks, so would a message to nightfox@DIGDIST get routed both through VERT and directly to my BBS from the other BBS?

    No, it would just take the shortest route (or the most recently updated one) - I forget which, but it would definitely not go through multiple routes. If you go on another BBS and send a netmail to nightfox@DIGDIST, it should automatically expand your address to the full route and be visible to you (e.g. it would automatically change nightfox@DIGDIST to nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST or whatever the route was).

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Minex on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 17:43:58
    On 2018 Oct 10 09:15:08, you wrote to Nelgin:

    This is perfect, thanks! I was stuck on the part of the instructions indicating that I need to send a NetMail to the temporary address

    not TO that address... FROM that address to the /0 that you're sending your application to...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Thursday, October 11, 2018 08:40:00
    On 10-10-18 09:55, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    But what if you don't have a connection to the destination BBS? If
    your BBS or that other BBS aren't set up on Dove-Net, for instance, and neither you nor the other BBS call each other to exchange messages,
    then I'm wondering how the message would get there.

    Well, like any other technology, the unstated assumption is you ARE on the same network! :-)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Minex on Thursday, October 11, 2018 09:53:00
    On 10-09-18 17:11, Minex wrote to All <=-

    To kick this off, it looks like I need a front end mailer? Is there something that can accomplish this on a rasperry pi (where my
    Synchronet BBS is running)? Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet
    number or any FidoNet capabilities yet, nor have I ever setup FidoNet.

    Yes you need a mailer, but if you've installed the latest version 3.17 of Synchronet, it comes with a mailer - BinkIT, which can transfer Fidonet mail over the Internet. That's all you need these days, unless you plan on supporting dialup. Synchronet provides everything you need.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nelgin on Thursday, October 11, 2018 09:54:00
    On 10-10-18 04:34, Nelgin wrote to Minex <=-

    As others have said, BinkIT comes with sbbs but I don't use it, I use binkd and have had a lot of success with it. It's another bit to
    configure but I don't mind. If you want the fullu integrated approach
    then BinkIT is the way to go.

    I use binkd myself, but agree, for 99% of new sysops starting from scratch, BinkIT is the way to go.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Minex on Thursday, October 11, 2018 12:41:00
    On 10-10-18 09:15, Minex wrote to Nelgin <=-

    @TZ: 4168
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Nelgin to Minex on Wed Oct 10 2018 04:40 am

    This is perfect, thanks! I was stuck on the part of the instructions indicating that I need to send a NetMail to the temporary address
    listed in the fidonet policy4 document. It looks like I have NetMail working, but the Policy4 document lists nothing about a temporary
    address. I'll just contact Terry.

    The old Policy4 method _should_ work, provided you can manually identify your local NC or RC in the nodelist. It worked for me, but yeah you send a netmail to the relevant *C from the address z:n/9999, where z is the relevant zone and n is the *c's net. But many *Cs now have an online application process as
    ell.

    Nelgin wrote:
    Oh, additionally. It looks Terry Barlow is the RC for Colorado. He will be able to tell you who to contact to get a fidonet node number. tbarlow550@gmail.com

    Once set up successfully, there's other networks you can join, which are mostly empty and consist of "is this thing working" type messages but still, there's stuff out there. Look for "othernets" as they're known.

    FSXnet is wrll worth joining. It's a very friendly and active net. It will definitely excercise your mailer and sbbsecho. :)


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  • From Plt@VERT/MB to Minex on Monday, November 05, 2018 20:36:22
    Re: Greetings
    By: Minex to All on Tue Oct 09 2018 08:19:00

    New Synchronet BBS system here. I JUST managed to get DOVE-Net setup on my system and am learning an the new terms and quirks of the system. I'm surprised as to how easy it was to get running on my Raspberry Pi 3 B+. Anyway, one question. Is it possible to send a message directly to another user on another BBS using this system privately or are all messages publicly posted?

    Minex

    Welcome to Dovnet.

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  • From Plt@VERT/MB to Nelgin on Monday, November 05, 2018 21:00:45
    Re: Re: Greetings
    By: Nelgin to Minex on Wed Oct 10 2018 04:40:00

    able to tell you who to contact to get a fidonet node number. tbarlow550@gmail.com

    Nelgin

    You can be a point of my system if you like?

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  • From Mickey@VERT/BADPOET to All on Saturday, December 03, 2022 20:39:16
    Hi Y'all. My old bbs (mystic) had a catatrophic crash around 6 months ago, and I've just installed the latest release of Synchronet. My personal life became quite hectic as well. In any case, I just wanted to say how much I like this software. It looks real good even though it's still very stock. Easy to install as well. Rob and the boy's have done a great job here.

    I return you to the regular chat. :-)

    Mick

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mickey on Sunday, December 04, 2022 00:47:10
    Re: Greetings
    By: Mickey to All on Sat Dec 03 2022 08:39 pm

    Hi Y'all. My old bbs (mystic) had a catatrophic crash around 6 months ago, and I've just installed the latest release of Synchronet. My personal life became quite hectic as well. In any case, I just wanted to say how much I like this software. It looks real good even though it's still very stock. Easy to install as well. Rob and the boy's have done a great job here.

    I return you to the regular chat. :-)


    i recommend that if you are just starting out, use that renegade menu shell
    and just make some screens for your bbs. then go into text.dat and change the colors. despite what a lot of people say, you do NOT have to be a programmer to use synchronet.
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  • From Al DeRosa@VERT to Mickey on Sunday, December 04, 2022 07:39:36
    On 04 Dec 2022, MRO said the following...

    i recommend that if you are just starting out, use that renegade menu shell and just make some screens for your bbs. then go into text.dat
    and change the colors. despite what a lot of people say, you do NOT
    have to be a programmer to use synchronet.

    Excellent advice from MRO, Synchro at first looks pretty daunting, but it really isn't the text.dat is simple to play with and the more you play with the underhood stuff the easier the software is..

    ... There are three kinds of people: Those who can count, and those who can't

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