• Rasberry Pi unix help with install

    From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to All on Sunday, October 07, 2018 21:38:46
    Hi All

    I have rasberry pi Rasbian and i hope same one would would like to help me with installing unix sbbs please i not much good with unix but I would
    like to try.

    Firstly does any one how if there is a how to do video of the installing
    of it.

    secondly I have been on wiki.synchro.net/install:nix and just having
    a bit of troule following it

    so this is my first step ie

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You must create the directory where Synchronet will live. Some common locations would be your home directory (e.g. /home/you/sbbs) or the system root directory (e.g. /sbbs).

    By default, Synchronet executables will look for files in the /sbbs/ctrl directory, so if you install Synchronet into a different directory you will need to either create a symbolic link in your root directory (e.g. ln -s /home/you/sbbs /) or set the SBBSCTRL environment variable accordingly

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- And would like to now does this look right or not

    drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 740 Oct 6 09:18 run
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs -> /home/pi/sbbs/


    Thank you
    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbb Nz

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Sneaky on Sunday, October 07, 2018 04:40:51
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to All on Sun Oct 07 2018 09:38 pm

    Hi All

    I have rasberry pi Rasbian and i hope same one would would like to help me with installing unix sbbs please i not much good with unix but I would like to try.

    Firstly does any one how if there is a how to do video of the installing
    of it.

    secondly I have been on wiki.synchro.net/install:nix and just having
    a bit of troule following it

    There are step-by-step instructions specifically for the pi here: http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:raspbian_install

    so this is my first step ie

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You must create the directory where Synchronet will live. Some common locations would be your home directory (e.g. /home/you/sbbs) or the system root directory (e.g. /sbbs).

    By default, Synchronet executables will look for files in the /sbbs/ctrl directory, so if you install Synchronet into a different directory you will need to either create a symbolic link in your root directory (e.g. ln -s /home/you/sbbs /) or set the SBBSCTRL environment variable accordingly

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - And would like to now does this look right or not

    drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 740 Oct 6 09:18 run
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs -> /home/pi/sbbs/

    Sure, assuming that's an ls output of the root directory.

    digital man

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to Sneaky on Sunday, October 07, 2018 10:09:34
    Hi All

    I have rasberry pi Rasbian and i hope same one would would like to help me with installing unix sbbs please i not much good with unix but I would like to try.

    Firstly does any one how if there is a how to do video of the installing
    of it.

    secondly I have been on wiki.synchro.net/install:nix and just having
    a bit of troule following it

    For the RPI it would be best to follow these instructions http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:raspbian_install

    so this is my first step ie

    drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 740 Oct 6 09:18 run
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs -> /home/pi/sbbs/

    For me it seemed to work better installing sbbs to /sbbs as RELEASE=1 rather than SYSLINK=1

    basically the commands are:

    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade
    sudo apt-get -y install cvs zip libnspr4-dev libncurses5-dev
    sudo mkdir /sbbs
    sudo chown -R pi: /sbbs // assuming you are running as user pi
    cd /sbbs
    wget http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/install/GNUmakefile make install RELEASE=1
    export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl
    cd /sbbs/exec
    ./scfg // edit your Synchronet BBS system settings

    After the build completes you may want to check /sbbs/exec and make sure all of the executables were installed correctly
    cd /sbbs/exec
    ls -lh // look at the ownership and timestamps

    you run it as sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs
    I would suggest for the first executions you run it in it own terminal in the foreground so you can immediately see the console output, once you are comfortable it is running correctly you can either run it sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs & or edit the /sbbs/ctrl/sbbs.ini and set DAEMONIZE=TRUE

    hope this helps

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  • From Deon@VERT/CHINWAG to Sneaky on Sunday, October 07, 2018 15:09:03
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to All on Sun Oct 07 2018 09:38 pm

    Hi All
    I have rasberry pi Rasbian and i hope same one would would like to help me with installing unix sbbs please i not much good with unix but I would like to try.

    Hi Sneaky,

    I've installed fine on a Raspberry Pi. I found on the wiki a howto for Raspberry Pi, and I followed that (sorry cant give you a link, I'm travelling to the US and at LA airport the synchro.net website is "blocked" (?)

    My install is actually in docker using the debian:stretch container (plus the pre-reqs on the wiki) - and it compiled no problems. In theory it should work on Raspbian directly.

    I will build a Pi docker container, which will make installation as simple as "docker pull ...." but that might need to wait until I return home.

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Digital Man on Monday, October 08, 2018 09:45:00
    Hi Digital Man

    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    secondly I have been on wiki.synchro.net/install:nix and just having
    a bit of troule following it

    There are step-by-step instructions specifically for the pi here: http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:raspbian_install

    Thank you for this link, make thing easer for me, will try this out and see how I go.


    drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 740 Oct 6 09:18 run
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs -> /home/pi/sbbs/

    Sure, assuming that's an ls output of the root directory.

    knowing me probably not ie

    if I go to terminal emulation
    ls
    I have desktop downloads sbbs
    cd /
    ls
    I have bin dev home lost+found root sbbs sys usr
    ----

    but if say it should be in the root dir

    then I may not have it right.

    Thank you
    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs
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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Mortifis on Monday, October 08, 2018 09:56:00
    Hi Mortifis


    secondly I have been on wiki.synchro.net/install:nix and just having
    a bit of troule following it

    For the RPI it would be best to follow these instructions http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:raspbian_install

    thank you for this link, will study it.

    drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 740 Oct 6 09:18 run
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs -> /home/pi/sbbs/

    For me it seemed to work better installing sbbs to /sbbs as RELEASE=1 rather than SYSLINK=1

    okay I will do the /sbbs as RELEASE=1

    basically the commands are:

    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade
    sudo apt-get -y install cvs zip libnspr4-dev libncurses5-dev
    sudo mkdir /sbbs
    sudo chown -R pi: /sbbs // assuming you are running as user pi (it will
    be)
    cd /sbbs
    wget http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/install/GNUmakefil
    e make install RELEASE=1
    export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl
    cd /sbbs/exec
    ./scfg // edit your Synchronet BBS system settings

    After the build completes you may want to check /sbbs/exec and make
    sure all of the executables were installed correctly
    cd /sbbs/exec
    ls -lh // look at the ownership and timestamps

    okay I will do.

    you run it as sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs
    I would suggest for the first executions you run it in it own terminal
    in the foreground so you can immediately see the console output, once
    you are comfortable it is running correctly you can either run it sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs & or edit the /sbbs/ctrl/sbbs.ini and set
    DAEMONIZE=TRUE

    will do
    hope this helps

    Yes it will help me,thank you

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Deon on Monday, October 08, 2018 10:02:00
    Hi Deon

    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install


    with installing unix sbbs please i not much good with unix but I would like to try.

    Hi Sneaky,

    I've installed fine on a Raspberry Pi. I found on the wiki a howto for Raspberry Pi, and I followed that (sorry cant give you a link, I'm

    that's fine, it has been passed onto me so that's cool.

    travelling to the US and at LA airport the synchro.net website is "blocked" (?)

    Okay.

    My install is actually in docker using the debian:stretch container
    (plus the pre-reqs on the wiki) - and it compiled no problems. In
    theory it should work on Raspbian directly.

    Okay cool.

    I will build a Pi docker container, which will make installation as
    simple as "docker pull ...." but that might need to wait until I return home.

    Not sure what Pi docker container is, but sound good to make things easyer for me,
    but no hurry just when you have same spear time when you get home thank you.

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Sneaky on Sunday, October 07, 2018 14:50:43
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help wit
    By: Sneaky to Digital Man on Mon Oct 08 2018 09:45 am

    Hi Digital Man

    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    secondly I have been on wiki.synchro.net/install:nix and just having
    a bit of troule following it

    There are step-by-step instructions specifically for the pi here: http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:raspbian_install

    Thank you for this link, make thing easer for me, will try this out and see how I go.


    drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 740 Oct 6 09:18 run
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs -> /home/pi/sbbs/

    Sure, assuming that's an ls output of the root directory.

    knowing me probably not ie

    if I go to terminal emulation
    ls
    I have desktop downloads sbbs
    cd /
    ls
    I have bin dev home lost+found root sbbs sys usr
    ----

    but if say it should be in the root dir

    then I may not have it right.

    No, you have it right. '/' is called the "root directory" (same as with DOS and Windows). "/root" is different (the home directory for the 'root' user).

    digital man

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Sneaky on Monday, October 08, 2018 12:49:00
    On 10-07-18 21:38, Sneaky wrote to All <=-

    And would like to now does this look right or not

    drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 740 Oct 6 09:18 run
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs -> /home/pi/sbbs/

    What directory are you in? Lacking the relevant context to know if this is right. The output of 'pwd' alongside this directory listing would have been helpful.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Mortifis on Monday, October 08, 2018 12:52:00
    On 10-07-18 10:09, Mortifis wrote to Sneaky <=-

    For me it seemed to work better installing sbbs to /sbbs as RELEASE=1 rather than SYSLINK=1

    Doesn't RELEASE=1 install the older 3.16? (which is ancient). And I think you mean SYMLINK=1 in the above example. I got the development build installed easily by dropping the SYMLINK=1 parameter.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Sneaky on Monday, October 08, 2018 12:54:00
    On 10-08-18 09:45, Sneaky wrote to Digital Man <=-

    if I go to terminal emulation
    ls
    I have desktop downloads sbbs
    cd /
    ls
    I have bin dev home lost+found root sbbs sys usr

    That looks right. '/' is what's called the "root directory", so the symlink is in the right place. /root is known as either /root or root's home directory.


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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Tony Langdon on Sunday, October 07, 2018 22:32:18
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Tony Langdon to Mortifis on Mon Oct 08 2018 12:52:00

    Doesn't RELEASE=1 install the older 3.16? (which is ancient). And I think

    No, that would be more a matter of checking out the 3.16 tag from CVS. IIRC RELEASE=1 is the default/normal build, instead of DEBUG=1 for a debug build.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Tony Langdon on Sunday, October 07, 2018 19:42:21
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Tony Langdon to Mortifis on Mon Oct 08 2018 12:52 pm

    On 10-07-18 10:09, Mortifis wrote to Sneaky <=-

    For me it seemed to work better installing sbbs to /sbbs as RELEASE=1 rather than SYSLINK=1

    Doesn't RELEASE=1 install the older 3.16? (which is ancient).

    No. "RELEASE" means a non-debug build of the same source code.

    And I think
    you mean SYMLINK=1 in the above example. I got the development build installed easily by dropping the SYMLINK=1 parameter.

    Either way should work.

    digital man

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to echicken on Monday, October 08, 2018 17:07:00
    On 10-07-18 22:32, echicken wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

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    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Tony Langdon to Mortifis on Mon Oct 08 2018 12:52:00

    Doesn't RELEASE=1 install the older 3.16? (which is ancient). And I think

    No, that would be more a matter of checking out the 3.16 tag from CVS. IIRC RELEASE=1 is the default/normal build, instead of DEBUG=1 for a
    debug build.

    Ahh, OK, yeah has been a while (I'm due to update my installation).


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Digital Man on Monday, October 08, 2018 17:08:00
    On 10-07-18 19:42, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    No. "RELEASE" means a non-debug build of the same source code.

    Thanks for the correction.

    And I think
    you mean SYMLINK=1 in the above example. I got the development build installed easily by dropping the SYMLINK=1 parameter.

    Either way should work.

    My original installation was 3.16c with SYMLINKS=1, the current one is 3.17 without that setting.


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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Tony Langdon on Monday, October 08, 2018 02:25:42
    Tony wrote:
    On 10-08-18 09:45, Sneaky wrote to Digital Man <=-

    if I go to terminal emulation
    ls
    I have desktop downloads sbbs
    cd /
    ls
    I have bin dev home lost+found root sbbs sys usr

    That looks right. '/' is what's called the "root directory", so the symlink is
    in the right place. /root is known as either /root or root's home directory.

    You might get a bit more information if you ls -l

    This will give you a long list and you can check if your symlinks are
    correct.

    bbs@bbs:/$ ls -l sbbs
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Dec 4 2017 sbbs -> /home/bbs/sbbs


    I can see that I'm properly linked. If you have colors set, a bad symlink
    will usually show up red.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nelgin on Monday, October 08, 2018 20:20:00
    On 10-08-18 02:25, Nelgin wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    You might get a bit more information if you ls -l

    This will give you a long list and you can check if your symlinks are correct.

    I think that was directed at the wrong person, but you are correct. :)


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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Tony Langdon on Monday, October 08, 2018 05:39:00
    On 2018 Oct 08 12:52:00, you wrote to Mortifis:

    For me it seemed to work better installing sbbs to /sbbs as RELEASE=1
    rather than SYSLINK=1

    Doesn't RELEASE=1 install the older 3.16? (which is ancient). And I
    think you mean SYMLINK=1 in the above example. I got the development build installed easily by dropping the SYMLINK=1 parameter.

    max and i have been building 3.17 in RELEASE=1 or DEBUG=1 modes since she decided to try to wade in a few years back... we've used SYMLINK=1 with both...
    my current install is /not/ using symlinks because of problems we ran into in the past on max's system when switching between release or debug... not that one will be doing that very often but i didn't want to deal with that bit of hassel when i decide to switch from debug to release...

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Mortifis on Monday, October 08, 2018 23:02:00
    Hi Mortifis

    you run it as sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs
    I would suggest for the first executions you run it in it own terminal
    in the foreground so you can immediately see the console output, once
    you are comfortable it is running correctly you can either run it sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs & or edit the /sbbs/ctrl/sbbs.ini and set
    DAEMONIZE=TRUE

    hope this helps


    Okay I had a go install sbbs on rasberry pi rasbian with your steps you have given me
    and after installing it went into scfg and edit a few thing then fired up the console
    and seemed to be loaded okay but it's not binding to ports 843, 22, etc maybe same in
    rasbian setting not sure.

    I have it online now 3rdchoicecore.ddns.net:1022 that part seems to be working fine
    but I don't how what I have done if I go to terminal and try to fire up scfg
    I now have a error that came up in the scfg window (main configuration file /sbbs/exec/main.cnf missing)
    to which means I cannot ad message group, I have done same wrong or there is same thing I should have done

    but any way thank you for these step worked great for me.

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Digital Man on Monday, October 08, 2018 23:13:00
    Hi Digital

    but if say it should be in the root dir

    then I may not have it right.

    No, you have it right. '/' is called the "root directory" (same as with DOS and Windows). "/root" is different (the home directory for the
    'root' user).


    Okay that's cool thank you, with the steps Mortifis gave me I have install sbbs
    on the rasberrypi Rasbian online now have done nothing to it though its
    3rdchoicecore.ddns.net:1022 as tempary, few internal problem setting etc but will
    get to them later.

    Thank you
    Ian 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Tony Langdon on Monday, October 08, 2018 23:23:00
    Hi Tony Langdon



    drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 740 Oct 6 09:18 run
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs -> /home/pi/sbbs/

    What directory are you in? Lacking the relevant context to know if
    this is right. The output of 'pwd' alongside this directory listing
    would have been helpful.

    Digital man said I did it right, still learning unix and I got same step
    from mortifis and I have install the sbbs on my rasberry pi which it cool,
    a few thing to work on though

    lrwxrwxrwx 20 pi pi 4096 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs

    it look a bit like this now

    Thank you
    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Tony Langdon on Monday, October 08, 2018 23:26:00
    Hi Tony Langdon
    On 10-08-18 09:45, Sneaky wrote to Digital Man <=-

    if I go to terminal emulation
    ls
    I have desktop downloads sbbs
    cd /
    ls
    I have bin dev home lost+found root sbbs sys usr

    That looks right. '/' is what's called the "root directory", so the symlink is in the right place. /root is known as either /root or
    root's home directory.


    Cool thank you for this good to see I got it right.

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to Tony Langdon on Monday, October 08, 2018 08:48:12
    On 10-07-18 10:09, Mortifis wrote to Sneaky <=-

    For me it seemed to work better installing sbbs to /sbbs as RELEASE=1 rather than SYSLINK=1

    Doesn't RELEASE=1 install the older 3.16? (which is ancient). And I think you mean SYMLINK=1 in the above example. I got the development build installed easily by dropping the SYMLINK=1 parameter.

    yes, SYSLINK was a typo ... I ran make RELEASE=1 and it compiled as 3.17a .. my understanding is that by using RELEASE=1 is telling the compiler to not include extra debugging info? One could just run make without options and copy the executables from gcc.*.*.exe.debug into /sbbs/exec I guess it is a matter of preference

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to Sneaky on Monday, October 08, 2018 09:06:52
    Hi Mortifis

    Okay I had a go install sbbs on rasberry pi rasbian with your steps you have given me
    and after installing it went into scfg and edit a few thing then fired up the console
    and seemed to be loaded okay but it's not binding to ports 843, 22, etc maybe same in
    rasbian setting not sure.

    Likely because ports 22 (ssh) and 843 (FlashPolicy) are already bound ... if you want to use ssh with the sbbs run sudo raspi-config and disable ssh that should free it up for the board, personally I leave it for use on the raspberrypi so I can ssh into it from anywhere


    I have it online now 3rdchoicecore.ddns.net:1022 that part seems to be working fine
    but I don't how what I have done if I go to terminal and try to fire up scfg I now have a error that came up in the scfg window (main configuration file /sbbs/exec/main.cnf missing)

    everytime you open a terminal you need to export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl (or whereever your ctrl directory is located) ... I believe you can permanently set it in your .profile or just write a little script to run scfg
    #!/bin/bash
    export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl
    /sbbs/exec/scfg

    to which means I cannot ad message group, I have done same wrong or there is same thing I should have done

    once SBBSCTRL is export main.cnf will be located correctly


    but any way thank you for these step worked great for me.

    Oh course the steps worked great for you, they are instructions from Digitalman :)

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Sneaky on Monday, October 08, 2018 06:22:19
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help
    By: Sneaky to Mortifis on Mon Oct 08 2018 11:02 pm

    Hi Mortifis

    you run it as sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs
    I would suggest for the first executions you run it in it own terminal in the foreground so you can immediately see the console output, once you are comfortable it is running correctly you can either run it sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs & or edit the /sbbs/ctrl/sbbs.ini and set DAEMONIZE=TRUE

    hope this helps


    Okay I had a go install sbbs on rasberry pi rasbian with your steps you have given me
    and after installing it went into scfg and edit a few thing then fired up the console
    and seemed to be loaded okay but it's not binding to ports 843, 22, etc maybe same in
    rasbian setting not sure.

    Port 22 is likely conflicting with the SSH server in Raspbian.

    I have it online now 3rdchoicecore.ddns.net:1022 that part seems to be working fine
    but I don't how what I have done if I go to terminal and try to fire up scfg I now have a error that came up in the scfg window (main configuration file /sbbs/exec/main.cnf missing)

    That means you don't have the SBBSCTRL environment variable set. http://wiki.synchro.net/config:env

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to mark lewis on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 06:58:00
    On 10-08-18 05:39, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    max and i have been building 3.17 in RELEASE=1 or DEBUG=1 modes since
    she decided to try to wade in a few years back... we've used SYMLINK=1 with both... my current install is /not/ using symlinks because of problems we ran into in the past on max's system when switching between release or debug... not that one will be doing that very often but i didn't want to deal with that bit of hassel when i decide to switch
    from debug to release...

    I went for no symlinks, while I had no issues with symlinks, I prefer to have my binaries in the right place in the tree, in case I ever have to move the source tree or remove it for some reason. And if I ever have to replace binaries by hand, I didn't want to have to chase symlinks.

    And DM, echicken and others cleared up my misinterpretation of RELEASE. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Sneaky on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 07:01:00
    On 10-08-18 23:23, Sneaky wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Digital man said I did it right, still learning unix and I got same
    step
    from mortifis and I have install the sbbs on my rasberry pi which it cool,
    a few thing to work on though

    A later post did have the required information for us to determine you had done it right, but it wasn't in the one I replied to, because in that post, you left no clue as to what directory you were sitting in when you typed the command.

    lrwxrwxrwx 20 pi pi 4096 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs

    it look a bit like this now

    Again, no information about what directory you're in. Only know it's right from other information (in other messages). :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Sneaky on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 07:02:00
    On 10-08-18 23:26, Sneaky wrote to Tony Langdon <=-


    Cool thank you for this good to see I got it right.

    Now enjoy. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Mortifis on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 07:03:00
    On 10-08-18 08:48, Mortifis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    yes, SYSLINK was a typo ... I ran make RELEASE=1 and it compiled as
    3.17a .. my understanding is that by using RELEASE=1 is telling the compiler to not include extra debugging info? One could just run make

    Yes, you are correct, was my bad. :)


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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Digital Man on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 08:31:00
    Hi Digital Man

    Okay I had a go install sbbs on rasberry pi rasbian with your steps you have given me
    and after installing it went into scfg and edit a few thing then fired up the console
    and seemed to be loaded okay but it's not binding to ports 843, 22, etc maybe same in
    rasbian setting not sure.

    Port 22 is likely conflicting with the SSH server in Raspbian.

    Okay understand.

    I have it online now 3rdchoicecore.ddns.net:1022 that part seems to be working fine
    but I don't how what I have done if I go to terminal and try to fire up scfg I now have a error that came up in the scfg window (main configuration file /sbbs/exec/main.cnf missing)

    That means you don't have the SBBSCTRL environment variable set. http://wiki.synchro.net/config:env

    okay cool, I have had a look at this link and thank you.

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Mortifis on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 08:33:00
    Hi Mortifis

    and seemed to be loaded okay but it's not binding to ports 843, 22, etc maybe same in
    rasbian setting not sure.

    Likely because ports 22 (ssh) and 843 (FlashPolicy) are already bound
    ... if you want to use ssh with the sbbs run sudo raspi-config and
    disable ssh that should free it up for the board, personally I leave it for use on the raspberrypi so I can ssh into it from anywhere

    okay that's cool, I just leave it as is.


    I have it online now 3rdchoicecore.ddns.net:1022 that part seems to be

    I noticed you dropped in to 1st and 3rd Choice core thank you however
    in 3rd choice core I think you posted a message to me, but I didn't get
    it, how do I fix that, thanks

    working fine
    but I don't how what I have done if I go to terminal and try to fire up scfg I now have a error that came up in the scfg window (main configuration file /sbbs/exec/main.cnf missing)

    everytime you open a terminal you need to export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl
    (or whereever your ctrl directory is located) ... I believe you can permanently set it in your .profile or just write a little script to
    run scfg #!/bin/bash
    export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl
    /sbbs/exec/scfg


    okay got you, yep that did the trick, thanks


    to which means I cannot ad message group, I have done same wrong or there is same thing I should have done

    once SBBSCTRL is export main.cnf will be located correctly

    Yep it did.

    but any way thank you for these step worked great for me.

    Oh course the steps worked great for you, they are instructions from Digitalman :)

    Okay cool, thank you and Digitalman and wiki,for helping me.

    may I ask you what did sbbs use for inporting and exporting networks message windows it binkit
    looked on wiki pages no how to in window bit unsure in unix

    also how do you edit the mail server per settings etc

    Thank you

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Sneaky on Monday, October 08, 2018 17:14:00
    Sneaky wrote:
    Hi Mortifis

    and seemed to be loaded okay but it's not binding to ports 843, 22, etc
    maybe same in
    rasbian setting not sure.

    Likely because ports 22 (ssh) and 843 (FlashPolicy) are already bound
    ... if you want to use ssh with the sbbs run sudo raspi-config and
    disable ssh that should free it up for the board, personally I leave it
    for use on the raspberrypi so I can ssh into it from anywhere

    okay that's cool, I just leave it as is.

    Actually, there are adventages to moving your ssh port to something else. You'll find a lot of people trying to get into your system if you don't firewall it off. Change your /etc/ssh/sshd_config to change the port from 22
    to something else that only you know, like 27 for example. Then you can run your bbs on port 22 for ssh, nobody will have to worry about knowing ssh is
    on a different port and if anyone hacks the password for ssh, they furthest they're going to get it to you bbs, not your OS.

    Don't forget you may have to configure iptables or firewalld and open the
    port on your router if you still want to connect from the internet on your
    new ssh port.

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to Tony Langdon on Monday, October 08, 2018 20:43:51
    Tony Langdon Wrote in message:
    On 10-08-18 23:23, Sneaky wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Digital man said I did it right, still learning unix and I got same step
    from mortifis and I have install the sbbs on my rasberry pi which it cool,
    a few thing to work on though

    A later post did have the required information for us to determine you had done
    it right, but it wasn't in the one I replied to, because in that post, you left
    no clue as to what directory you were sitting in when you typed the command.

    lrwxrwxrwx 20 pi pi 4096 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs

    it look a bit like this now

    Again, no information about what directory you're in. Only know it's right from other information (in other messages). :)


    I always read the thread before replying :-P


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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE3 to Tony Langdon on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 19:54:00
    Hi Tony Langdon
    -

    Cool thank you for this good to see I got it right.

    Now enjoy. :)


    Yes I will now enjoy it

    Thank You

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE3 to Tony Langdon on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 19:57:00
    Hi Tony Langdon

    from mortifis and I have install the sbbs on my rasberry pi which it cool,
    a few thing to work on though

    A later post did have the required information for us to determine you
    had done it right, but it wasn't in the one I replied to, because in
    that post, you left no clue as to what directory you were sitting in
    when you typed the command.

    Okay I am sorry I didn't give you more info on it and not saying we I was sitting in in my last message, probably didn't now myself at the time
    and thought about that from you last message, i am sitting in /
    to were I have sbbs installed from ternamal I think is pi (desktop Document) then
    cd / Run Etc Sbbs) root dir that the way I see it but you might see it another way so again sorry


    lrwxrwxrwx 20 pi pi 4096 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs

    it look a bit like this now

    Again, no information about what directory you're in. Only know it's right from other information (in other messages). :)

    in the same directory or tree / the tree were the bbs is on
    I got this from


    I will have to think things out before posting next time specialy unix
    and thank you for your help

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Nelgin on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 08:21:00
    Hi Nelgin

    disable ssh that should free it up for the board, personally I leave it
    for use on the raspberrypi so I can ssh into it from anywhere

    okay that's cool, I just leave it as is.

    Actually, there are adventages to moving your ssh port to something
    else. You'll find a lot of people trying to get into your system if you don't firewall it off. Change your /etc/ssh/sshd_config to change the
    port from 22 to something else that only you know, like 27 for example. Then you can run your bbs on port 22 for ssh, nobody will have to worry about knowing ssh is on a different port and if anyone hacks the
    password for ssh, they furthest they're going to get it to you bbs, not your OS.

    Thank you for this info per port 22 I will save this for when I do

    Don't forget you may have to configure iptables or firewalld and open
    the port on your router if you still want to connect from the internet
    on your new ssh port.

    and will try not to forget to do this as well.

    Thank you
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Mortifis on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:50:00
    On 10-08-18 20:43, Mortifis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I always read the thread before replying :-P

    But that wasn't evident in your reply. :P


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Sneaky on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:52:00
    On 10-09-18 19:54, Sneaky wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    @TZ: 02d0
    Hi Tony Langdon
    -

    Cool thank you for this good to see I got it right.

    Now enjoy. :)


    Yes I will now enjoy it

    Good to hear! :)

    Thank You

    You're welcome Ian, we're here to help. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Sneaky on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:53:00
    On 10-09-18 19:57, Sneaky wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Okay I am sorry I didn't give you more info on it and not saying we I
    was sitting in in my last message, probably didn't now myself at the
    time and thought about that from you last message, i am sitting in /
    to were I have sbbs installed from ternamal I think is pi (desktop Document) then
    cd / Run Etc Sbbs) root dir that the way I see it but you might see it another way so again sorry

    No probs, we got there in the end, all looks good on your end. :)


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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Tony Langdon on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 21:18:08
    On 2018 Oct 09 06:58:00, you wrote to me:

    max and i have been building 3.17 in RELEASE=1 or DEBUG=1 modes since
    she decided to try to wade in a few years back... we've used
    SYMLINK=1 with both... my current install is /not/ using symlinks
    because of problems we ran into in the past on max's system when
    switching between release or debug... not that one will be doing that
    very often but i didn't want to deal with that bit of hassel when i
    decide to switch from debug to release...

    I went for no symlinks, while I had no issues with symlinks, I prefer
    to have my binaries in the right place in the tree, in case I ever
    have to move the source tree or remove it for some reason. And if I
    ever have to replace binaries by hand, I didn't want to have to chase symlinks.

    yup! in the case i speak of, when switching between release and debug, the make
    file stuff doesn't touch the symlink so it remains pointing at the wrong binary... copying the files into the tree doesn't have this problem but there is the (minor) additional drive space usage...

    And DM, echicken and others cleared up my misinterpretation of
    RELEASE. :)

    yeah, i saw that later when i read on further ;)

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 21:20:34
    On 2018 Oct 08 06:22:18, you wrote to Sneaky:

    Okay I had a go install sbbs on rasberry pi rasbian with your steps
    you have given me and after installing it went into scfg and edit a few
    thing then fired up the console and seemed to be loaded okay but it's
    not binding to ports 843, 22, etc maybe same in rasbian setting not
    sure.

    Port 22 is likely conflicting with the SSH server in Raspbian.

    FWIW: we always move the OS' ssh port to another... for one thing, it knocks out a lot of scanners trying to get OS level access... we have, however, been leaving sbbs' ssh on 22... whether that's a good idea or not remains to be seen... speaking only of my new setup, i think i still have work to do in the ssh realm but RL has to come first...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to mark lewis on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 13:54:00
    On 10-09-18 21:18, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    yup! in the case i speak of, when switching between release and debug,
    the make file stuff doesn't touch the symlink so it remains pointing at the wrong binary... copying the files into the tree doesn't have this problem but there is the (minor) additional drive space usage...

    Yeah, these days, that bit of disk usage is trivial. :)


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to mark lewis on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 20:42:56
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: mark lewis to Tony Langdon on Tue Oct 09 2018 09:18 pm


    On 2018 Oct 09 06:58:00, you wrote to me:

    max and i have been building 3.17 in RELEASE=1 or DEBUG=1 modes since
    she decided to try to wade in a few years back... we've used
    SYMLINK=1 with both... my current install is /not/ using symlinks
    because of problems we ran into in the past on max's system when
    switching between release or debug... not that one will be doing that
    very often but i didn't want to deal with that bit of hassel when i
    decide to switch from debug to release...

    I went for no symlinks, while I had no issues with symlinks, I prefer to have my binaries in the right place in the tree, in case I ever
    have to move the source tree or remove it for some reason. And if I ever have to replace binaries by hand, I didn't want to have to chase symlinks.

    yup! in the case i speak of, when switching between release and debug, the make
    file stuff doesn't touch the symlink so it remains pointing at the wrong binary...

    Unless you run 'make symlinks'.

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Tony Langdon on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 07:38:16
    On 2018 Oct 10 13:54:00, you wrote to me:

    yup! in the case i speak of, when switching between release and
    debug, the make file stuff doesn't touch the symlink so it remains
    pointing at the wrong binary... copying the files into the tree
    doesn't have this problem but there is the (minor) additional drive
    space usage...

    Yeah, these days, that bit of disk usage is trivial. :)

    very :)

    speaking of drive space, this recent move i had to make to another bbs package enabled me to increase the available drive space i have for the BBS... my old system was running on an 8Gig and a 20Gig drive... the 8 was split into 4 2g (OS limits when originally set up) and the 20 was split into 2 10g... now the whole thing is on one 40G VM drive... pathing is a lot easier, too! :lol:

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 07:41:04
    On 2018 Oct 09 20:42:56, you wrote to me:

    yup! in the case i speak of, when switching between release and debug,
    the make file stuff doesn't touch the symlink so it remains pointing at
    the wrong binary...

    Unless you run 'make symlinks'.

    ahhh... that's one of the changes in the build process... mayhaps it was brought about by max's and my posting about our discovery with symlinks and switching between debug and build releases?

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to mark lewis on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 08:48:06
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Tue Oct 09 2018 21:20:34

    FWIW: we always move the OS' ssh port to another... for one thing, it knocks out a lot of scanners trying to get OS level access... we have, however, been leaving sbbs' ssh on 22... whether that's a good idea or not remains to be seen... speaking only of my new setup, i think i still have

    I do the same. The only real problem I have encountered by leaving SBBS listening on 22 is that all nodes occasionally get tied up with "new users" (bots landing in new user setup after trying accounts that don't exist). On top of inactivity timeouts I have a small script that runs in this case to boot them off faster, seems to do the job.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to mark lewis on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:22:45
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Wed Oct 10 2018 07:41 am


    On 2018 Oct 09 20:42:56, you wrote to me:

    yup! in the case i speak of, when switching between release and debug,
    the make file stuff doesn't touch the symlink so it remains pointing at
    the wrong binary...

    Unless you run 'make symlinks'.

    ahhh... that's one of the changes in the build process... mayhaps it was brought about by max's and my posting about our discovery with symlinks and switching between debug and build releases?

    Perhaps but you weren't the only one(s) to have issues with that. Anyway, not 'make install' will copy the binaries while 'make symlinks' will create symlinks instead.

    digital man

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to Sneaky on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 16:04:28
    Hi Mortifis

    I noticed you dropped in to 1st and 3rd Choice core thank you however
    in 3rd choice core I think you posted a message to me, but I didn't get

    working fine
    but I don't how what I have done if I go to terminal and try to fire up scfg I now have a error that came up in the scfg window (main configuration file /sbbs/exec/main.cnf missing)

    everytime you open a terminal you need to export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl (or whereever your ctrl directory is located) ... I believe you can permanently set it in your .profile or just write a little script to run scfg #!/bin/bash
    export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl
    /sbbs/exec/scfg


    okay got you, yep that did the trick, thanks


    to which means I cannot ad message group, I have done same wrong or there is same thing I should have done

    once SBBSCTRL is export main.cnf will be located correctly

    Yep it did.

    but any way thank you for these step worked great for me.

    Oh course the steps worked great for you, they are instructions from Digitalman :)

    Okay cool, thank you and Digitalman and wiki,for helping me.

    may I ask you what did sbbs use for inporting and exporting networks message windows it binkit
    looked on wiki pages no how to in window bit unsure in unix

    for qwk (ie: dove-net) sbbs uses gnet-ftp and it is triggered in timed events or by running touch /sbbs/data/qnet/vert.now (to make a qwk callout to vert) For Fido (FTN) Synchronet uses sbbsecho and binkit also triggered by timed events and semephores. There is lots of documentation on synchronet wiki; http://wiki.synchro.net/util:sbbsecho that should get you started, there are links there to help you get setup on FTN as well. After looking at that, if you have questions, feel free to ask, though it has been many many years since I was INVOLVED with FTN :/

    also how do you edit the mail server per settings etc

    Mail Server Setting are easily configured in sbbs.ini under [Mail] which is well commented :) I have looked at it much yet but I think gtkmonitor has an interface for mail setting as well

    Thank you

    You're welcome ... though I may caution, my 'advice' is not always completely accurate and is often not the easiest way to accomplish a task lol

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to echicken on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 17:02:18
    On 2018 Oct 10 08:48:06, you wrote to me:

    FWIW: we always move the OS' ssh port to another... for one thing, it
    knocks out a lot of scanners trying to get OS level access... we
    have, however, been leaving sbbs' ssh on 22... whether that's a good
    idea or not remains to be seen... speaking only of my new setup, i
    think i still have

    I do the same. The only real problem I have encountered by leaving
    SBBS listening on 22 is that all nodes occasionally get tied up with
    "new users" (bots landing in new user setup after trying accounts that don't exist). On top of inactivity timeouts I have a small script that runs in this case to boot them off faster, seems to do the job.

    that's an interesting idea... it would be handy if someone were purposly (D)DOSing you... i'm not worried about the MIRAI crap since my firewall IDS detects them and blocks them without the BBS even knowing...

    )\/(ark

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    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 17:05:42
    On 2018 Oct 10 10:22:44, you wrote to me:

    ahhh... that's one of the changes in the build process... mayhaps it
    was brought about by max's and my posting about our discovery with
    symlinks and switching between debug and build releases?

    Perhaps but you weren't the only one(s) to have issues with that.
    Anyway, not 'make install' will copy the binaries while 'make
    symlinks' will create symlinks instead.

    that is really cool... i may switch from copying back to using the symlinks and
    see what happens ;)

    )\/(ark

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to mark lewis on Thursday, October 11, 2018 08:39:00
    On 10-10-18 07:38, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    speaking of drive space, this recent move i had to make to another bbs package enabled me to increase the available drive space i have for the BBS... my old system was running on an 8Gig and a 20Gig drive... the 8
    was split into 4 2g (OS limits when originally set up) and the 20 was split into 2 10g... now the whole thing is on one 40G VM drive...
    pathing is a lot easier, too! :lol:

    Yeah, you used to have to watch drive/partition sizes. And that was sometimes OS dependent. For example, my first Linux box could only address 500M in DOS/Windows, due to BIOS limitations, but on Linux, I was able to use all of a 1.2GB drive, provided I had the kernel in the first 500M (easily done by having a small /boot at the front of the drive), because Linux didn't rely on the BIOS and therefore didn't have the same limitations.


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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Mortifis on Thursday, October 11, 2018 14:54:00
    Hi Mortifis


    may I ask you what did sbbs use for inporting and exporting networks message windows it binkit
    looked on wiki pages no how to in window bit unsure in unix

    for qwk (ie: dove-net) sbbs uses gnet-ftp and it is triggered in timed

    Yes I have logged into synchro.net and created a Qwk network account
    and have set thing up in scfg/network/qwk packet network/network hub
    per password etc and connected and receiving message via dove-net

    Not sure if you know I run a sbbs on windows 10 1stchoicecore.co.nz
    and I be working from that per setting etc qwk network/ftn network/binkit
    tc
    but it just in unix I am unsure off problable should have told you
    hat,sorry

    events or by running touch /sbbs/data/qnet/vert.now (to make a qwk callout
    to vert)

    yes I read this on wiki (have now got wiki.synchro.net the first one
    on my home pages home page saved.

    Mo For Fido (FTN) Synchronet uses sbbsecho and binkit
    also triggered by timed events and semephores.

    With Fido (FTN) Synchronet binkit I be fine with setting per per window 10 bbs
    and I didn't think binkit.js was there unsure how to install it but looking
    further I found binkit.js in exec it's dir already installed so it just
    the sbbsecho.ini + ctrl/services.ini and the time event per wiki pages

    Mo There is lots of
    documentation on synchronet wiki; http://wiki.synchro.net/util:sbbsecho

    Thank you will study it while checking the bbs in windows 10.

    Mo> that should get you started, there are links there to help you get
    Mo> setup on FTN as well. After looking at that, if you have questions,
    Mo> feel free to ask, though it has been many many years since I was
    Mo> INVOLVED with FTN :/

    okay thank you for this, I sure I be fine with FTn but I need etc
    help with FTN I get back to you

    also how do you edit the mail server per settings etc

    Mail Server Setting are easily configured in sbbs.ini under [Mail]
    which is well commented :)

    Yes I worked that out after posting the message sorry,via my other bbs, it
    I just thought might be diffent once install but must the same except "/"

    have looked at it much yet but I think
    gtkmonitor has an interface for mail setting as well

    yes it will have.

    Okay per the gtkmonitor how do I get that to work and yes I looked at wiki about it see what it looks like, and to execute it is /exec/gtkmonitor -
    and gtkmonitor settigs in/ctrl/gtmonitor
    but either of these files are in these are in the direcorty I either have to edit or services.ini or sbbs.ini or install the files from same were not sure which.


    Thank you

    You're welcome ... though I may caution, my 'advice' is not always completely accurate and is often not the easiest way to accomplish a
    task lol

    That okay, your advice is helping so far so thank you.

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz Windows 10
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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to Sneaky on Friday, October 12, 2018 08:46:15
    Hi Mortifis


    Okay per the gtkmonitor how do I get that to work and yes I looked at wiki about it see what it looks like, and to execute it is /exec/gtkmonitor - and gtkmonitor settigs in/ctrl/gtmonitor
    but either of these files are in these are in the direcorty I either have to edit or services.ini or sbbs.ini or install the files from same were not sure which.

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz Windows 10

    In my case, at least, I had to build gtkmonitor gtkuseredit gtkchat and gtkuserlist individually in their respective source directories (ie: src/sbbs3/gtkmonitor make RELEASE=1 ) and copy the binaries to the /sbbs/exec directory. I am sure their are easier ways but that is how I did it.

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Mortifis on Saturday, October 13, 2018 07:48:00
    Hi Mortifis



    In my case, at least, I had to build gtkmonitor gtkuseredit gtkchat and gtkuserlist individually in their respective source directories (ie: src/sbbs3/gtkmonitor make RELEASE=1 ) and copy the binaries to the /sbbs/exec directory. I am sure their are easier ways but that is how I did it.

    Okay I found those dirs, and chance could you pass you step on to me
    or is it samething like this

    cd /sbbs/src/sbbs3/gtkmonitor
    make RELEASE=1

    then cd to each dir etc gtkuseredit gtkchat and gtkuserlist
    in each and do the same ie make RELEASE=1

    if so, will I now what files to copy to /sbbs/exec and as well as /ctrl /text

    and in 1 message you had to down load a file but at this point cannot remember the
    name of it as you could compile gtkmonitor.c I think

    Thank you for your help
    Ian S 1st Choice Core sbbs Nz




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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to Sneaky on Friday, October 12, 2018 17:12:27
    Hi Mortifis

    In my case, at least, I had to build gtkmonitor gtkuseredit gtkchat and gtkuserlist individually in their respective source directories (ie: src/sbbs3/gtkmonitor make RELEASE=1 ) and copy the binaries to the /sbbs/exec directory. I am sure their are easier ways but that is how I did it.

    Okay I found those dirs, and chance could you pass you step on to me
    or is it samething like this

    cd /sbbs/src/sbbs3/gtkmonitor
    make RELEASE=1

    then cd to each dir etc gtkuseredit gtkchat and gtkuserlist
    in each and do the same ie make RELEASE=1

    if you are running the sbbs (/sbbs/exec) from the same dir tree as where you build the distro from OR you have the SBBSCTRL properly set to where you run the exec/ dir from you can run make install REALEASE=1 from each dir

    if so, will I now what files to copy to /sbbs/exec and as well as /ctrl /text


    no need to copy the text dir ... nothing to make in there

    and in 1 message you had to down load a file but at this point cannot remember the
    name of it as you could compile gtkmonitor.c I think


    nothing to download but if you want a full CVS update you can just go to your sbbs build root directory (in my case /home/pi/sbbs OR ~/sbbs) and cvs update 3rdp sbbs3 ... then cd sbbs3/gtkmonitor and run make ... if make install RELEASE=1 does not copy the files for you, you can just either cd to the exe directory for each make (ie: for me /home/pi/sbbs/src/sbbs3/gtkmonitor/gcc.linux/armv7l.exe.release) and copy gtkmonitor to your where you run sbbs from (ie (/sbbs/exec)

    you can email me mortifis@asmf-etrucker.com if you'd like a faster reply from me personally, but I will always say you may get better help from someone else but I am more than willing to help



    Thank you for your help
    Ian S 1st Choice Core sbbs Nz

    More than welcome

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Sneaky on Monday, October 15, 2018 00:09:38
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to All on Sun Oct 07 2018 09:38 pm

    Hi All

    I have rasberry pi Rasbian and i hope same one would would like to help me with installing unix sbbs please i not much good with unix but I would like to try.

    Firstly does any one how if there is a how to do video of the installing of it.

    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that has raspian installed as well as Synchronet 3.17 and Mystic.
    you can Dload it at -> ftp://outwestbbs.com/raspberry.pi.re/RASPBERR/00index.html
    I have text instructions on the desktop everything is preinstalled.

    ... Common sense is instinct. Enough of it is genius.

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Denn on Monday, October 15, 2018 22:05:09
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Sneaky on Mon Oct 15 2018 00:09:38


    Hi Denn
    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that has raspian installed as well as Synchronet 3.17 and Mystic.
    you can Dload it at -> ftp://outwestbbs.com/raspberry.pi.re/RASPBERR/00index.html
    I have text instructions on the desktop everything is preinstalled.

    Thank you for this image, its going to take a while to download
    but I have plenty of time so that cool, and I will read the text instruction. and after I have either of them up and running I get back to you about it.

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz

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  • From Minex@VERT/TDOD to All on Monday, October 15, 2018 08:50:04
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Sneaky on Mon Oct 15 2018 12:09 am

    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to All on Sun Oct 07 2018 09:38 pm

    Hi All

    I have rasberry pi Rasbian and i hope same one would would like to help me with installing unix sbbs please i not much good with unix but I would like to try.

    Firstly does any one how if there is a how to do video of the installing of it.

    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that has raspian installed as well as Synchronet 3.17 and Mystic.
    you can Dload it at -> ftp://outwestbbs.com/raspberry.pi.re/RASPBERR/00index.html
    I have text instructions on the desktop everything is preinstalled.

    ... Common sense is instinct. Enough of it is genius.


    I just followed these directions on the Raspberry Pi forum. It worked pretty well.

    https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=181387

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to Sneaky on Monday, October 15, 2018 19:35:08
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Sneaky on Mon Oct 15 2018 00:09:38


    Hi Denn
    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that has raspian installed as well as Synchronet 3.17 and Mystic.
    you can Dload it at -> ftp://outwestbbs.com/raspberry.pi.re/RASPBERR/00index.html
    I have text instructions on the desktop everything is preinstalled.

    Thank you for this image, its going to take a while to download
    but I have plenty of time so that cool, and I will read the text instruction. and after I have either of them up and running I get back to you about it.

    were you unable to get Synchronet BBS compiled and running on you RPI? I thought the only remaining issue was setting up binkit and FTN? I've had a few minutes and was easily able to get gtkmonitor, gtkuseredit, gtkuserlist, gtkchat compiled and running with the proper enviroment setings and a desktop icon for quick launch, if you'd like I can send you the 'get your hands dirty in Linux' info.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Sneaky on Monday, October 15, 2018 23:11:23
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to Denn on Mon Oct 15 2018 10:05 pm

    Hi Denn
    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that has

    Thank you for this image, its going to take a while to download
    but I have plenty of time so that cool, and I will read the text instruction. and after I have either of them up and running I get back to you about it.

    Sorry it's so big I need to figure out how to shrink the image to a resonable size.
    I will try to figure that out next weekend.

    ... The chief export of Chuck Norris is pain.

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  • From Sneaky@VERT to Mortifis on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 12:39:00
    Hi Mortifis

    ftp://outwestbbs.com/raspberry.pi.re/RASPBERR/00index.html
    I have text instructions on the desktop everything is preinstalled.

    Thank you for this image, its going to take a while to download
    but I have plenty of time so that cool, and I will read the text instruction. and after I have either of them up and running I get back to you about it.

    were you unable to get Synchronet BBS compiled and running on you RPI?

    will with your help, yes I did, get it compiled but have same issues, so thought
    I would download this image to see if I might have not done it properly
    I did follow the instructions may have done same wrong or not and was good
    for denn, to offer this image to compare, it will be me if its not right
    couple of issues when downloading a qwk pkt I cannot hang up or quick H
    have to abort and on to menu and /o probably not a issue really I suppose
    and unsure if it a setting in scfg message put if I want to post
    to avon it say unkown user so just want to now if it the way I compiled it

    I thought the only remaining issue was setting up binkit and FTN?

    yes well it is really but I am still working on that,I got a message out
    but dont now if it went any were network is fsx_net, ie work in progress.

    Mo I've
    had a few minutes and was easily able to get gtkmonitor, gtkuseredit, gtkuserlist,

    yes I tried to compile these exciept gtkchat but still having problems with enviroment
    a little box came up and say (sbbctrl not set) even it I run
    export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl first then sudo exec/gtkmonitor


    compiled and running with the proper enviroment
    setings and a desktop icon for quick launch,

    how did you do that, maybe that will fix my enviroment

    if you'd like I can send
    you the 'get your hands dirty in Linux' info.


    Yes please, that would be great. thank you

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to Sneaky on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 09:26:40
    Hi Mortifis
    gtkmonitor, gtkuseredit, gtkuserlist,

    yes I tried to compile these exciept gtkchat but still having problems with enviroment
    a little box came up and say (sbbctrl not set) even it I run
    export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl first then sudo exec/gtkmonitor


    compiled and running with the proper enviroment
    setings and a desktop icon for quick launch,

    how did you do that, maybe that will fix my enviroment

    if you'd like I can send
    you the 'get your hands dirty in Linux' info.

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz


    for a desktop item
    cd ~/Desktop
    create a file called gtk-monitor.desktop (I use pico so pico gtk-monitor.desktop)
    add these lines

    [Desktop Entry]
    Name="SBBS Monitor"
    Exec="/sbbs/exec/gtkmonitor"
    Icon="/path/to/some/128pxX128px.png"
    Comment="If I'm here i show in properties tab or something" X-GNOME-FullName="Synchronet BBS Monitor"
    Terminal=false
    X-MultipleArgs=false
    Type=Application
    StartupNotify=true

    save and exit...the desktop item should appear now but you aren't ready to fully launch it yet...
    now
    cd ~
    pico .profile

    add these two lines

    export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl
    export SBBSEXEC=/sbbs/exec
    save and exit

    just for good measure add the same to lines at the end of .bashrc

    make sure .bash_profile looks like this

    if [ -f ~/.profile ]; then
    . ~/.profile
    fi

    now make sure the desktop enviroment includes those console settings

    pico .xsessionrc

    if [ -f ~/.profile ]; then
    . ~/.profile
    fi

    if all goes as plan you should now be able to launch gtk-monitor from the desktop and menu items should have the ctrl setting set. As for binkit FTN, someone else would be better equipped to help :)






    now create

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Mortifis on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 07:21:00
    Hi Mortifis

    gtkmonitor, gtkuseredit, gtkuserlist,


    compiled and running with the proper enviroment
    setings and a desktop icon for quick launch,

    how did you do that, maybe that will fix my enviroment


    for a desktop item
    cd ~/Desktop
    create a file called gtk-monitor.desktop (I use pico so pico gtk-monitor.desktop)
    add these lines

    [Desktop Entry]
    Name="SBBS Monitor"
    Exec="/sbbs/exec/gtkmonitor"
    Icon="/path/to/some/128pxX128px.png"
    Comment="If I'm here i show in properties tab or something" X-GNOME-FullName="Synchronet BBS Monitor"
    Terminal=false
    X-MultipleArgs=false
    Type=Application
    StartupNotify=true

    save and exit...the desktop item should appear now but you aren't ready
    to fully launch it yet...
    now
    cd ~
    pico .profile

    add these two lines

    export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl
    export SBBSEXEC=/sbbs/exec
    save and exit

    just for good measure add the same to lines at the end of .bashrc

    make sure .bash_profile looks like this

    if [ -f ~/.profile ]; then
    . ~/.profile
    fi

    now make sure the desktop enviroment includes those console settings

    pico .xsessionrc

    if [ -f ~/.profile ]; then
    . ~/.profile
    fi

    if all goes as plan you should now be able to launch gtk-monitor from
    the desktop and menu items should have the ctrl setting set. As for
    binkit FTN, someone else would be better equipped to help :)
    now create


    Thank you for all these steps will print this out and tick each step
    as I do it ,any problems I get back to you, but I sure I will be fine with it and, yes I will ask same on else about the binkit FTN.

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Mortifis on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 08:05:00
    Hi Mortifis

    Not sur if I replied to this or not

    Hi Denn
    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that has raspian installed as well as Synchronet 3.17 and Mystic.
    you can Dload it at -> ftp://outwestbbs.com/raspberry.pi.re/RASPBERR/00index.html
    I have text instructions on the desktop everything is preinstalled.

    Thank you for this image, its going to take a while to download
    but I have plenty of time so that cool, and I will read the text instruction. and after I have either of them up and running I get back to you about it.

    were you unable to get Synchronet BBS compiled and running on you RPI?

    yes I got get Synchronet BBS compiled and running on you RPI? with
    your instuctions and help and online just not to sure if I did same thing wrong or not
    these 2 thing i have issues with when downlloading qwk network when I press
    hang up after dowloading or h for disconnect it won't just numbers came up and keeps
    going have to press abort then main menu /O 2 one if I want to post in
    fsxnet and press post to it says user unknown and cannot reply to a person
    only to ALL mybe in scfg setting but cannot find any setting for it
    so I suppose I just want to compear the RASPBERR with what I have to if it does
    the same thing that is all.



    I thought the only remaining issue was setting up binkit and FTN? I've

    okay thats cool it is I suppose per last message I get same help from same one else

    had a few minutes and was easily able to get gtkmonitor, gtkuseredit, gtkuserlist, gtkchat compiled and running with the proper enviroment setings and a desktop icon for quick launch,

    Okay cool

    if you'd like I can send
    you the 'get your hands dirty in Linux' info.


    yes please that would be good thank you.

    As I say I not sure if i did reply to this message or not oh well here it is again:)

    Thank you
    Ian S 1st Choice Core sbbs nz

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/ALLEYCAT to Denn on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 18:17:11
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to Denn on Mon Oct 15 2018 10:05 pm

    Hi Denn
    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that has

    Thank you for this image, its going to take a while to download
    but I have plenty of time so that cool, and I will read the text instruction. and after I have either of them up and running I get back to you about it.

    Sorry it's so big I need to figure out how to shrink the image to a resonable size.
    I will try to figure that out next weekend.

    You're a very helpful person, brah ... though, personally, I believe un*x is a 'get yer hands dirty' OS, that's why Windows still exists :-P

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mortifis on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 15:57:53
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Mortifis to Denn on Tue Oct 16 2018 06:17 pm

    You're a very helpful person, brah ... though, personally, I believe un*x is a 'get yer hands dirty' OS, that's why Windows still exists :-P

    There are some fairly user-friendly *nix OSes though. Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Fedora, and OpenSuSE are supposed to be fairly user-friendly Linux distros. A few years ago, I was also trying a recent release of FreeBSD or OpenBSD (I don't remember which) that had a fairly nice GUI, and it seemed they were trying to be user-friendly as well. But with those OSes, it does help to have knowledge of the command line interface too.

    Nightfox

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Denn on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:00:46
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Sneaky on Mon Oct 15 2018 00:09:38

    Hi Denn

    I ahve got the raspberr.zip downloaded and transfered to microsd and
    tried on a rasb pi b+ would load but wanted to work, put it on
    a rasb pi b and worked fine thank you (maybe a upgrade to work for b+)
    but no probs it's working ok.

    just 1 think though you set variable on boot up which is good
    but when running sudo /sbbs/exec/scfg, it cames up but a error message
    cannot find ctrl/main.cnf missing so I cannot edit any setting,
    tried a few things ie export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl no difference
    but the sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs works fine, these are run in /sbbs
    just letting you now and any help you can give me will be great
    Thank you

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Mortifis on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 23:23:30
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Mortifis to Denn on Tue Oct 16 2018 06:17 pm

    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that
    has

    You're a very helpful person, brah ... though, personally, I believe un*x is a 'get yer hands dirty' OS, that's why Windows still exists :-P

    I believe So many Linux Distro's confuse and frustrate most people,
    I have tried many versions in the past and have settled on two Distro's that work well for what I do.
    1.Ubuntu Mate is my favorite
    2.Debian is my second choice.
    Maybe one day there will be a mainstream Linux Distro that will take out Windows.
    Yes there is a learning curve to Linux if you want to take full advantage of it's power but several Desktops will work for many un tech savvy people.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Sneaky on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 23:33:22
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help
    By: Sneaky to Mortifis on Tue Oct 16 2018 12:39 pm

    were you unable to get Synchronet BBS compiled and running on you
    RPI?

    will with your help, yes I did, get it compiled but have same issues, so thought
    I would download this image to see if I might have not done it properly
    I did follow the instructions may have done same wrong or not and was good for denn, to offer this image to compare, it will be me if its not right couple of issues when downloading a qwk pkt I cannot hang up or quick H


    On this Image you can just burn it to your SD card Synchronet is already compiled and ready to run.
    all you need to do is configure your settings.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Sneaky on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 23:41:27
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to Denn on Wed Oct 17 2018 11:00 am

    I ahve got the raspberr.zip downloaded and transfered to microsd and
    tried on a rasb pi b+ would load but wanted to work, put it on
    a rasb pi b and worked fine thank you (maybe a upgrade to work for b+)
    but no probs it's working ok.

    just 1 think though you set variable on boot up which is good
    but when running sudo /sbbs/exec/scfg, it cames up but a error message cannot find ctrl/main.cnf missing so I cannot edit any setting,
    tried a few things ie export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl no difference
    but the sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs works fine, these are run in /sbbs
    just letting you now and any help you can give me will be great
    Thank you

    I never even considered if it might run on a PI B or B+
    When I did this Image I did it for th RPI 2 and RPI3 and tested it on both of those, and yes I made it so it set up the variable on boot up for convenence.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Denn on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 18:17:00
    On 10-16-18 23:23, Denn wrote to Mortifis <=-

    I believe So many Linux Distro's confuse and frustrate most people,
    I have tried many versions in the past and have settled on two Distro's that work well for what I do.
    1.Ubuntu Mate is my favorite
    2.Debian is my second choice.

    I like Debian/Raspian for server applications (like running a BBS). I use Mint as a desktop and quite like it, and use lubuntu for low powered netbooks.

    Maybe one day there will be a mainstream Linux Distro that will take
    out Windows.
    Yes there is a learning curve to Linux if you want to take full
    advantage of it's power but several Desktops will work for many un tech savvy people.

    Agree on both counts. The current status of Linux desktops is not bad. Not quite aas slick as Windows or Mac OS X in some areas of integration, but getting closer. I have an LG monitor that I have to use a custom Modeline in xorf.conf for, so a bit of technical knowledge is required there. But I'm not able to get native resolution on Windows, so the fact I can do it at all on Linux is a winner. For some reason. I used to be able to do it on Vista, then the ability got nuked by a Windows Update somewhere along the line and couldn't do it again. Linux 1, Windows 0. :D


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Denn on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 18:20:00
    On 10-16-18 23:41, Denn wrote to Sneaky <=-

    I never even considered if it might run on a PI B or B+

    Synchronet runs well on a B+, I used to do it, until the SD died and I eventually rebuilt it on the Banana Pi. :)


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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE3 to Denn on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 21:29:12
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help
    By: Denn to Sneaky on Tue Oct 16 2018 11:33 pm

    Hi Denn

    I did follow the instructions may have done same wrong or not and was good for denn, to offer this image to compare, it will be me if its not right couple of issues when downloading a qwk pkt I cannot hang up or quick H


    On this Image you can just burn it to your SD card Synchronet is already compiled and ready to run.
    all you need to do is configure your settings.

    Yes I have burn the image on my SD thank you and confiqured me setting
    to have sbbs running now. it solved my post/reply issue but not the qwknet
    issue hanging up after download finished goes to 0 then just add number and carries on, have to abort then hang up via the main menu , 1 out of 2 not bad I suppose.

    Thank you
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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE3 to Denn on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 21:34:45
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Sneaky on Tue Oct 16 2018 11:41 pm

    Hi Denn

    but the sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs works fine, these are run in /sbbs
    just letting you now and any help you can give me will be great
    Thank you

    I never even considered if it might run on a PI B or B+
    When I did this Image I did it for th RPI 2 and RPI3 and tested it on both of those, and yes I made it so it

    that's cool, just letting you now, so if you pass it on to same one else
    they will now as well


    set up the variable on boot up for convenence.

    May I ask how and were you did this

    Thank You
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Denn on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:00:02
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Mortifis on Tue Oct 16 2018 11:23 pm

    Maybe one day there will be a mainstream Linux Distro that will take out Windows.

    They've been saying that for years. Several Linux distros have tried (Ubuntu is one of the latest). I think there are some Linux distros that potentially can right now. Linux Mint with the Cinnamon UI is currently one of my favorites.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Denn on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:01:03
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help
    By: Denn to Sneaky on Tue Oct 16 2018 11:33 pm

    On this Image you can just burn it to your SD card Synchronet is already compiled and ready to run.

    What does it mean to "burn" something to an SD card? You can burn data to an optical disc, but I haven't heard of burning data to an SD card..

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Nightfox on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 14:40:55
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Wed Oct 17 2018 10:01:03

    What does it mean to "burn" something to an SD card? You can burn data to an optical disc, but I haven't heard of burning data to an SD card..

    People often use the term (incorrectly) when it comes to writing an image out to any sort of removable medium.

    Some people use it even more egregiously. I worked in a computer store way back when CD burners were still a new and exciting thing at the consumer level. The term caught on to such an extent that I had customers who still used floppies talking about "burning" files onto their floppy disks. I heard it enough times that I eventually learned to ignore it.

    "Burn" has also been used in relation to EPROMs, which may be, superficially, a closer comparison in this case.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to echicken on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 12:35:20
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Wed Oct 17 2018 02:40 pm

    "Burn" has also been used in relation to EPROMs, which may be, superficially, a closer comparison in this case.

    I think I've heard "burn" regarding EPROMs, but I thought the term "flash" wis more common in that case (as in flashing a BIOS on your motherboard, etc.).

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Nightfox on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 16:06:40
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help
    By: Nightfox to echicken on Wed Oct 17 2018 12:35:20

    I think I've heard "burn" regarding EPROMs, but I thought the term "flash" wis more common in that case (as in flashing a BIOS on your motherboard,

    It is, because it's flash memory. I'm just saying that flashing something to a card is slightly more analagous to writing to an EPROM than it is to burning an optical disk. And that's a stretch.

    My point was mostly that people use "burn" in this context for an assortment of reasons. It's not correct, but it's common enough that I wouldn't bother getting hung up on it.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to echicken on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 14:08:45
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Wed Oct 17 2018 04:06 pm

    My point was mostly that people use "burn" in this context for an assortment of reasons. It's not correct, but it's common enough that I wouldn't bother getting hung up on it.

    I know.. I just hadn't heard it that way so was just a little tripped up for a moment.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:16:00
    On 10-17-18 10:00, Nightfox wrote to Denn <=-

    They've been saying that for years. Several Linux distros have tried (Ubuntu is one of the latest). I think there are some Linux distros
    that potentially can right now. Linux Mint with the Cinnamon UI is currently one of my favorites.

    Yes, Mint/Cinnamon is very good, works really well, and things like application management - when I install apps, whether from the package manager or other sources, the menu links always seem to get installed, which is very Windows like (in a good way) behaviour.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:17:00
    On 10-17-18 10:01, Nightfox wrote to Denn <=-

    What does it mean to "burn" something to an SD card? You can burn data
    to an optical disc, but I haven't heard of burning data to an SD card..

    My guess is writing an image. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:23:00
    On 10-17-18 12:35, Nightfox wrote to echicken <=-

    @TZ: 41a4
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Wed Oct 17 2018 02:40 pm

    "Burn" has also been used in relation to EPROMs, which may be, superficially, a closer comparison in this case.

    I think I've heard "burn" regarding EPROMs, but I thought the term
    "flash" wis more common in that case (as in flashing a BIOS on your motherboard, etc.).

    Burn comes from the old days, as does "blow". Initially, there were PROMs, where you programmed them by "burning out" fusible links, then came EPROMs, which were programmed (but work by storing charge, rather than fusible links). EPROMS are erased by exposing them to UV light. The reason the terminology changed to "flash" is because newer EPROM technology is similar to that used by flash media like CF or SD cards.


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Sneaky on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 23:17:02
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help
    By: Sneaky to Denn on Wed Oct 17 2018 09:29 pm

    I did follow the instructions may have done same wrong or not and
    Yes I have burn the image on my SD thank you and confiqured me setting
    to have sbbs running now. it solved my post/reply issue but not the qwknet issue hanging up after download finished goes to 0 then just add number and carries on, have to abort then hang up via the main menu , 1 out of 2 not bad I suppose.

    I will load it on my PI 2 this weekend and see if I can figure it out.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Sneaky on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 23:28:10
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to Denn on Wed Oct 17 2018 09:34 pm


    that's cool, just letting you now, so if you pass it on to same one else they will now as well


    set up the variable on boot up for convenence.

    May I ask how and were you did this

    Thank You

    I did this project awhile ago, I need load it up on my PI so I can see what file(s) I modified.
    I will look at it this weekend.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 23:32:57
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Wed Oct 17 2018 10:00 am

    Maybe one day there will be a mainstream Linux Distro that will take
    out Windows.

    They've been saying that for years. Several Linux distros have tried (Ubuntu is one of the latest). I think there are some Linux distros that potentially can right now. Linux Mint with the Cinnamon UI is currently one of my favorites.


    I have tried Mint but I prefer a lighter Distro, on my VPS I run LXDE and then add only the things I want to add.
    Mint however is a great package for most people.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 23:36:27
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Wed Oct 17 2018 10:01 am

    On this Image you can just burn it to your SD card Synchronet is
    already compiled and ready to run.

    What does it mean to "burn" something to an SD card? You can burn data to an optical disc, but I haven't heard of burning data to an SD card..


    It's similar to burning an ISO to a DVD.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Denn on Thursday, October 18, 2018 09:32:37
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Nightfox on Wed Oct 17 2018 11:32 pm

    I have tried Mint but I prefer a lighter Distro, on my VPS I run LXDE and then add only the things I want to add.
    Mint however is a great package for most people.

    :) I thought Mint was fairly light, compared to my older favorite distro SuSE (now OpenSUSE), which commonly came in a DVD ISO rather than just a CD ISO.

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Denn on Friday, October 19, 2018 07:43:00
    Hi Denn

    Sn> issue hanging up after download finished goes to 0 then just add number
    and carries on, have to abort then hang up via the main menu , 1 out of 2 not bad I suppose.

    I will load it on my PI 2 this weekend and see if I can figure it out.

    Okay cool, as far as posting in message group per post/reply it did
    work in dove-net echo but I did add fsxnet network but post didn't work
    (user unknown) checked scfg setting between both all looked might have missed
    same thing no sure

    and good luck in figure it out.

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs 1 Nz

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Denn on Friday, October 19, 2018 07:45:00
    Hi Denn
    set up the variable on boot up for convenence.

    May I ask how and were you did this

    Thank You

    I did this project awhile ago, I need load it up on my PI so I can see what file(s) I modified.
    I will look at it this weekend.


    Okay that will be cool, thank you for this.

    Ian S 1st Choice Core sbbs 1 Nz

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Friday, October 19, 2018 07:42:00
    On 10-18-18 09:32, Nightfox wrote to Denn <=-

    :) I thought Mint was fairly light, compared to my older favorite
    distro SuSE (now OpenSUSE), which commonly came in a DVD ISO rather
    than just a CD ISO.

    Not when you load it on an old netbook. :) I use Lubuntu for those. :) I was never a fan of Suse, just didn't like the feel of it. I was in the RedHat camp for many years, but have drifted to Debian and derivatives (Mint, [L]Ubuntu, Raspian, etc) in the last 5-10 years. :) Been meaning to look at Arch, though haven't gotten around to that one yet.


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Sneaky on Friday, October 19, 2018 08:18:54
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help
    By: Sneaky to Denn on Fri Oct 19 2018 07:43 am

    I will load it on my PI 2 this weekend and see if I can figure it
    out.

    Okay cool, as far as posting in message group per post/reply it did
    work in dove-net echo but I did add fsxnet network but post didn't work (user unknown) checked scfg setting between both all looked might have missed

    Oh, If it works with Dove-net thats all I have set up have not tried fxnet or or any other network, to me user unknown might indicate the hosting network needs login info from your BBS.


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Sneaky on Sunday, October 21, 2018 00:28:15
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to Denn on Wed Oct 17 2018 09:34 pm



    set up the variable on boot up for convenence.

    May I ask how and were you did this

    sudo nano /etc/profile
    type the above command in bash then goto the bottom of the file
    and you will see it.
    it's the last line
    export SBBDCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Denn on Monday, October 22, 2018 08:58:00
    Hi Denn


    Okay cool, as far as posting in message group per post/reply it did
    work in dove-net echo but I did add fsxnet network but post didn't work (user unknown) checked scfg setting between both all looked might have missed

    Oh, If it works with Dove-net thats all I have set up have not tried
    fxnet or or any other network, to me user unknown might indicate the hosting network needs login info from your BBS.

    yes, the "post to" works in dovenet not fsxnet network have checked both settings
    in scfg per message area/network ,but I may have mist samething knowing me, tried
    syncterm and netrunner still the same.

    Thank you

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz


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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Denn on Monday, October 22, 2018 09:15:00
    Hi Denn

    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to Denn on Wed Oct 17 2018 09:34 pm




    May I ask how and were you did this

    sudo nano /etc/profile
    type the above command in bash then goto the bottom of the file
    and you will see it.
    it's the last line
    export SBBDCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl

    Okay thank you, I will check that out in the /etc/profile you did.

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz



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  • From Plt@VERT/MB to mark lewis on Monday, November 05, 2018 20:57:45
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help wit
    By: mark lewis to Tony Langdon on Tue Oct 09 2018 21:18:00

    wrong binary... copying the files into the tree doesn't have this problem but there is the (minor) additional drive space usage...

    Mark

    I have a 3th & 4tb hd over here.

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