• Games

    From Jay Allshire@VERT to Nightfox on Friday, April 27, 2018 13:42:03
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    By: Nightfox to Dmxrob on Fri Apr 27 2018 08:54 am

    Yeah, that could be part of it. I think nostalgia is another part of it. Emulators also make it really easy to store and play the games - You don't have to put in a cartridge, just load the ROM and play.


    I liked some of the games that I use to play when I had my atari 2600. Wish now I still had it so I could still play the games. To bad there si not a way to play them on my Windows 7 machine and be able to find the games I liked to play.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jay Allshire on Friday, April 27, 2018 12:43:17
    Re: Games
    By: Jay Allshire to Nightfox on Fri Apr 27 2018 01:42 pm

    I liked some of the games that I use to play when I had my atari 2600. Wish now I still had it so I could still play the games. To bad there si not a way to play them on my Windows 7 machine and be able to find the games I liked to play.

    There are Atari 2600 emulators available.. Stella is one, with a Windows version available:
    https://stella-emu.github.io/downloads.html
    And Atari 2600 ROMs are available..

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Jay Allshire on Friday, April 27, 2018 22:26:45
    Re: Games
    By: Jay Allshire to Nightfox on Fri Apr 27 2018 01:42 pm

    I liked some of the games that I use to play when I had my atari 2600. Wish now I still had it so I could still play the games. To bad there si not a way to play them on my Windows 7 machine and be able to find the games I liked to play.

    there are emulators for windows, and you can find most games online with a little looking.


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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Jay Allshire on Saturday, April 28, 2018 07:38:04
    On 2018 Apr 27 13:42:02, you wrote to Nightfox:

    Yeah, that could be part of it. I think nostalgia is another part of
    it. Emulators also make it really easy to store and play the games -
    You don't have to put in a cartridge, just load the ROM and play.

    I liked some of the games that I use to play when I had my atari 2600. Wish now I still had it so I could still play the games. To bad there
    si not a way to play them on my Windows 7 machine and be able to find
    the games I liked to play.

    what do you mean? surely there's an emulator for the A2600? and game carts? if you still have the originals, it should be a ""simple"" matter of downloading the ROM code to a file for the emulator to execute...

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  • From Mojo@VERT/MOJO to mark lewis on Saturday, April 28, 2018 11:33:45
    Re: Games
    By: mark lewis to Jay Allshire on Sat Apr 28 2018 07:38 am

    what do you mean? surely there's an emulator for the A2600? and game carts? if you still have the originals, it should be a ""simple"" matter of downloading the ROM code to a file for the emulator to execute...


    No, I no longer have any of the stuff I use to have. Like a idiot I let it go and now I wish I had kept it along with a few other things I got rid of at the time I had that stuff. As for the carts I know longer have any of them either all of it is gone.


    I have been out of touch wiht alot of this anymore do they make joysticks still for computers? As most of those games that I liked you needed a joystick to play them with.



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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/CAVEBBS to Mojo on Thursday, May 03, 2018 21:28:00
    Re: Games
    By: Mojo to mark lewis on Sat Apr 28 2018 11:33 am




    I have been out of touch wiht alot of this anymore do they make joysticks st for computers? As most of those games that I liked you needed a joystick to play them with.

    Many of the newer, top of the line gaming motherboards come with a PS/2 port
    on them still - something I haven't seen in quite a while. So one can assume that somewhere out there joysticks and other PS/2 compatible devices are
    still pretty popular.

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  • From Mojo@VERT/MOJO to Dmxrob on Friday, May 04, 2018 10:08:41
    Re: Games
    By: Dmxrob to Mojo on Thu May 03 2018 09:28 pm

    Many of the newer, top of the line gaming motherboards come with a PS/2 port on them still - something I haven't seen in quite a while. So one can assume that somewhere out there joysticks and other PS/2 compatible devices are
    still pretty popular.


    I seen at the store yesterday when I was there that they now have a game console that ca be plugged right into the TV and it has a old atari game on it. These are a one game device but they were not real expensive (17.98) but the chouice of differnet games is limited from what I seen while looking.



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  • From Static@VERT to Dmxrob on Friday, May 04, 2018 11:44:50
    On 05/03/18, Dmxrob said the following...

    Many of the newer, top of the line gaming motherboards come with a PS/2 port on them still - something I haven't seen in quite a while. So one can assume that somewhere out there joysticks and other PS/2 compatible devices are still pretty popular.

    Much of the demand for ps/2 on modern gaming motherboards probably stems from it being an interrupt-driven rather than polled interface, and how the n-key rollover feature on gaming keyboards often only works over ps/2.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dmxrob on Saturday, May 05, 2018 21:22:25
    Re: Games
    By: Dmxrob to Mojo on Thu May 03 2018 09:28 pm

    Many of the newer, top of the line gaming motherboards come with a PS/2 port on them still - something I haven't seen in quite a while. So one can assume that somewhere out there joysticks and other PS/2 compatible devices are


    joysticks were either serial or usb. i havent seen a ps2 joystick.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Monday, May 07, 2018 09:58:41
    Re: Games
    By: MRO to Dmxrob on Sat May 05 2018 09:22 pm

    joysticks were either serial or usb. i havent seen a ps2 joystick.

    I don't recall if I've seen a joystick using a serial port.. PCs used to have a dedicated joystick port (often called a game port) which joysticks often used. Sound cards used to often have a game port on them.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 09:36:00
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    Re: Games
    By: MRO to Dmxrob on Sat May 05 2018 09:22 pm

    joysticks were either serial or usb. i havent seen a ps2 joystick.

    I don't recall if I've seen a joystick using a serial port.. PCs used
    to have a dedicated joystick port (often called a game port) which joysticks often used. Sound cards used to often have a game port on
    them.

    I recall game ports too. Only time I ever used one was with the old Tandy 1000, because we had joysticks for that machine. I normally had little use for the game port, though they could be used for useful projects with the right code. As you can tell, I'm not a gamer by any stretch of the imagination. :)


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  • From Gela@VERT/ECBBS to Tony Langdon on Monday, May 07, 2018 21:01:17
    Re: Re: Games
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Tue May 08 2018 09:36:00

    Actually, I still have a flight stick controller with a game port on it, and I use it with a USB/Game Port converter adapter to play stunning modern games like Elite: Dangerous. I remember fondly when gameport controllers were more common. Thankfully, USB is much easier to use these days.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, May 07, 2018 20:52:07
    Re: Games
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon May 07 2018 09:58 am

    Re: Games
    By: MRO to Dmxrob on Sat May 05 2018 09:22 pm

    joysticks were either serial or usb. i havent seen a ps2 joystick.

    I don't recall if I've seen a joystick using a serial port.. PCs used to have a dedicated joystick port (often called a game port) which joysticks


    the only place i saw it called a 'game port' is wikipedia
    i had flightsticks since the early 90s
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  • From Static@VERT to MRO on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 03:06:39
    On 05/07/18, MRO said the following...

    the only place i saw it called a 'game port' is wikipedia

    I'm pretty sure Creative pushed that term. My older Sound Blaster cards (2.0 & 16) and Aureal card refer to it as a Joystick/Midi port, but every Creative device I've had from the AWE32 onward as well as my old CH fighterstick and throttle referred to it as a game port in manuals, drivers and configuration software.

    I even have an old ECS motherboard laying around bearing a port with 'Game1' silk screened beside it, which is referred to specifically as a Game Port in the manual and BIOS.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Gela on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 14:44:00
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    Re: Re: Games
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Tue May 08 2018 09:36:00

    Actually, I still have a flight stick controller with a game port on
    it, and I use it with a USB/Game Port converter adapter to play
    stunning modern games like Elite: Dangerous. I remember fondly when gameport controllers were more common. Thankfully, USB is much easier
    to use these days.

    Yeah, as I said, not something I use, game port or USB. :)


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 09:33:17
    Re: Games
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon May 07 2018 08:52 pm

    I don't recall if I've seen a joystick using a serial port.. PCs used
    to have a dedicated joystick port (often called a game port) which

    the only place i saw it called a 'game port' is wikipedia
    i had flightsticks since the early 90s

    I seem to remember it being called a game port long before Wikipedia was around. I used to have a few joysticks back in the day, and also a couple of Gravis Gamepad game controllers that used that port.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Static on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 09:40:00
    Re: Re: Games
    By: Static to MRO on Tue May 08 2018 03:06 am

    the only place i saw it called a 'game port' is wikipedia

    I'm pretty sure Creative pushed that term. My older Sound Blaster cards (2.0 & 16) and Aureal card refer to it as a Joystick/Midi port, but every Creative device I've had from the AWE32 onward as well as my old CH fighterstick and throttle referred to it as a game port in manuals, drivers and configuration software.

    Creative Labs may have been the ones pushing the term 'game port', I suppose. I do also remember it being used for MIDI, although I don't exactly remember how. There may have been adapters that plugged into that port and provided MIDI in/out ports, I suppose..

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  • From Static@VERT to Nightfox on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 21:34:49
    On 05/08/18, Nightfox said the following...

    I do also remember it being used for MIDI, although I don't
    exactly remember how. There may have been adapters that plugged into
    that port and provided MIDI in/out ports, I suppose..

    That's exactly it. Manufacturers normally sold MIDI break-out cables for their compatible cards that would map pins on the DA-15 port to DIN-5 connectors for use with MIDI devices.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Wednesday, May 09, 2018 08:59:00
    Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-

    I seem to remember it being called a game port long before Wikipedia
    was around. I used to have a few joysticks back in the day, and also a couple of Gravis Gamepad game controllers that used that port.

    Either "game port" or "joystick port" in the early 90s around here.


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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Nightfox on Wednesday, May 09, 2018 11:26:13
    Re: Games
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon May 07 2018 09:58 am

    joysticks were either serial or usb. i havent seen a ps2 joystick.

    I don't recall if I've seen a joystick using a serial port.. PCs used to have a dedicated joystick port (often called a game port) which joysticks often used. Sound cards used to often have a game port on them.

    I have some old thrustmaster flight sticks with ps2 connectors (along with the joystick port connector) simply because there was so many buttons on the thing it was basically a keyboard.

    USB fixed all that as far as large button joysticks are concerned.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Android8675 on Wednesday, May 09, 2018 12:34:10
    Re: Games
    By: Android8675 to Nightfox on Wed May 09 2018 11:26 am

    I have some old thrustmaster flight sticks with ps2 connectors (along with the joystick port connector) simply because there was so many buttons on the thing it was basically a keyboard.

    USB fixed all that as far as large button joysticks are concerned.

    Interesting.. I remember Gravis making their Gamepad Pro, which was similar to a Sony Playstation controller, and it used the joystick port. Gravis also made an adapter that plugged into the joystick port that allowed you to plug in several of their Gamepad Pro controllers into a joystick port. I'm not sure how that worked, since that would have been a lot of buttons..

    USB definitely has made that a lot easier.

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  • From Static@VERT to Nightfox on Thursday, May 10, 2018 01:54:43
    On 05/09/18, Nightfox said the following...

    Gravis also made an adapter that plugged into the joystick port that allowed you to plug in several of their Gamepad Pro controllers into a joystick port. I'm not sure how that worked, since that would have been
    a lot of buttons..

    The port was designed to support two joysticks with two buttons each, which means four analog axes and four switches are available in total. Some manufacturers got creative and would do things like map both sets of inputs to a single device, or treat analog axes like digital inputs. Since an analog
    axis on a PC joystick is just a 100KOhm potentiometer, there are a variety of formulas you could use to send different combinations of pressed buttons to
    the PC as various resistance changes. Although this requires a little driver voodoo to do the translating, or for games to support the device natively.

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Mojo on Saturday, April 28, 2018 21:49:54
    On 2018 Apr 28 11:33:44, you wrote to me:

    I have been out of touch wiht alot of this anymore do they make
    joysticks still for computers? As most of those games that I liked you needed a joystick to play them with.

    yes, they do... one might need a different joystick for one game than they would for another, too... remember, a lot of the older stuff was just switches... today, there are also joysticks that have potentiometers or hall effect magnetic sensors so you can have a variable turn or forward/backward movent... with switches it is all or nothing...

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