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Synchronet running Yankee Trader


The game plays perfectly in local. The issue is the game does not have fossil support. No matter what I try, YT keeps crashing at title screen with comport error.

This is my 1st non-fossil game I am setting up. Only reason I want to set this game up, it was my personal favorite. Not much info to give. My setting in Synchronet are the standards using BAT file. I did a 1 node setup to ensure everything was simple.

Thanks,
teckkev

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Re: Yankee Trader Com Port Issue
By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Wed Apr 04 2018 06:33 am

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Synchronet running Yankee Trader

The game plays perfectly in local. The issue is the game does not have fossil support. No matter what I try, YT keeps crashing at title screen with comport error.

This is my 1st non-fossil game I am setting up. Only reason I want to set this game up, it was my personal favorite. Not much info to give. My setting in Synchronet are the standards using BAT file. I did a 1 node setup to ensure everything was simple.

Synchronet virtual UART/FOSSIL driver (sbbsexec.dll/dosxtrn.exe) for Windows NT-based OSes emulates a COM port (by default, COM1). See http://wiki.synchro.net/config:sbbsexec.ini for details.

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Synchronet running Yankee Trader

Where did you find it?

I have scoured the internet for a copy of that one and could not find it.
Also looking for an older, working DOS version of Tradewars. I did find one
of those, until I realized that it did not come with a daily maintenance program, like EXTERN. So, once you've used up your turns for the day, you cannot play Tradewars again... ever! :o

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On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 12:12:27 AM UTC-4, Dumas Walker wrote:

To: GEOFFREY SAMMONS

Synchronet running Yankee Trader

Where did you find it?

I have scoured the internet for a copy of that one and could not find it. Also looking for an older, working DOS version of Tradewars. I did find one of those, until I realized that it did not come with a daily maintenance program, like EXTERN. So, once you've used up your turns for the day, you cannot play Tradewars again... ever! :o

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I looked through my history and can't find it... It was from a shareware cd offered by a site. cd.textfiles.com was one location I looked for doors. I have googled too many hours looking through old archived cd's online. YT30.ZIP is the file I found (if that helps). I would dump the file here if I could for you.
Thanks,
teckkev
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On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 3:16:47 PM UTC-4, Digital Man wrote:

To: Geoffrey Sammons
Re: Yankee Trader Com Port Issue
By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Wed Apr 04 2018 06:33 am

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Synchronet running Yankee Trader

The game plays perfectly in local. The issue is the game does not have fossil support. No matter what I try, YT keeps crashing at title screen with comport error.

This is my 1st non-fossil game I am setting up. Only reason I want to set this game up, it was my personal favorite. Not much info to give. My setting in Synchronet are the standards using BAT file. I did a 1 node setup to ensure everything was simple.

Synchronet virtual UART/FOSSIL driver (sbbsexec.dll/dosxtrn.exe) for Windows NT-based OSes emulates a COM port (by default, COM1). See http://wiki.synchro.net/config:sbbsexec.ini for details.

digital man

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Thanks, From a quick glance, it looks like the answer to my problem :)
teckkev
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Mike,

I have scoured the internet for a copy of that one and could not find it.

The closest I have is a door called "Yankees And Rednecks"...but, I
doubt that's what you're looking for.

Also looking for an older, working DOS version of Tradewars. I did find one DW>of those, until I realized that it did not come with a daily maintenance DW>program, like EXTERN. So, once you've used up your turns for the day, you DW>cannot play Tradewars again... ever! :o

I've got version 1.03d of Trade Wars, and some older add-ons like
"Trade Wars Missions"...but those can't be registered anymore.

Right now, I'm using Trade Wars 2002, version 2, wide beta 8, along
with the Trade Wars Services door for it (SERVEWB7.ZIP). At one time, I
had a version of Trade Wars Services that would work with version 3 of
Trade Wars 2002, but I lost it in a crash...and I've never been able to
find it since.

Daryl

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On 2018 Apr 04 06:33:58, you wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet:

This is my 1st non-fossil game I am setting up. Only reason I want to set this game up, it was my personal favorite. Not much info to give. My setting in Synchronet are the standards using BAT file. I did a 1 node setup to ensure everything was simple.

are you on linux? are you using DOSEMU? do you have DOSEMU creating a fake COM1
that it redirects to telnet or ssh or whatever the connection is made via?

here's the DOSEMU command line we use on one of the VM linux BBSes hosted here...

dosemu -I"serial { com 1 virtual }" "$DOORDIR/$THISDOOR.bat" $THISNODE

that's in a script file (myemu) that we call for all DOS doors whether they use
a FOSSIL or not... we feed the door's name and the current node number to the script which starts dosemu which then fires the door's BAT file... all of our DOS doors live in their own $DOORDIR/$THISDOOR/ directory and all have their BAT files in $DOORDIR/...


eg: for a caller on node 1 playing operation overkill ii...

command line: myemu ooii %3 /DOS

the dosemu line, after processing and replacing of the environment variables, then becomes...

dosemu -I"serial { com 1 virtual }" "bbs/doors/ooii.bat" 1


the stack'em door game would be

command line" myemu stackem %3 /DOS

which then becomes...

dosemu -I"serial { com 1 virtual }" "bbs/doors/stackem.bat" 1


it is an extremely simple script we're using but we've blown it up and added full logging to it...


PS: yeah, that's not a sbbs system but the process should be the same... the command lines would also be similar... likely without the /DOS option which is BBS specific and the %3 for the node number on the command line would be different, too... otherwise, yeah, pretty much the same...

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On 2018 Apr 04 18:23:00, you wrote to GEOFFREY SAMMONS:

Also looking for an older, working DOS version of Tradewars.

are you talking about TW2002? do you still have your registration keys? i have v2 and v3-Gold archives somewhere around here... we've got like 6 or 8 games of
TW2002-Gold running on the main BBS... send (fido) netmail for more info ;)

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On 2018 Apr 05 09:48:34, you wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet:

I looked through my history and can't find it... It was from a shareware cd offered by a site. cd.textfiles.com was one location I looked for doors. I have googled too many hours looking through old archived cd's online. YT30.ZIP is the file I found (if that helps). I would dump the

file

here if I could for you. Thanks, teckkev

i found this site... it isn't YT30, though...

http://www.starflt.com/yt/Install/

Index of /yt/Install
[ICO] Name Last modified Size Description
[DIR] Parent Directory -
[ ] YT2C-BETA.ZIP 20-Jul-2009 14:14 194K
[ ] YT20.ZIP 20-Jul-2009 14:14 166K
[ ] YT31.ZIP 05-Aug-2010 14:52 195K
[ ] YT32.ZIP 27-Jul-2009 19:49 187K
[ ] YT36.ZIP 20-Jul-2009 14:14 220K
[ ] YTUTILS.ZIP 05-Aug-2010 14:52 197K
Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at www.starflt.com Port 80


i got there from http://breakintochat.com/wiki/Yankee_Trader which led me to http://www.starflt.com/yt.html...

i've found several other systems with YT36, too...

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Right now, I'm using Trade Wars 2002, version 2, wide beta 8, along
with the Trade Wars Services door for it (SERVEWB7.ZIP). At one time, I
had a version of Trade Wars Services that would work with version 3 of
Trade Wars 2002, but I lost it in a crash...and I've never been able to
find it since.

I have a registered version of TW2002, but it no longer runs with dosemu
under linux kernel 4+. Something about the DMPI (or DPMI, I never get that right!). The older verion I have runs and does not complain about registration, but it does not have a maintenance program to go with it.

I actually have source code for one of the versions. I should try digging
out one of my old compilers and see if I can compile it.

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Also looking for an older, working DOS version of Tradewars.

are you talking about TW2002? do you still have your registration keys? i have >v2 and v3-Gold archives somewhere around here... we've got like 6 or 8 games of
TW2002-Gold running on the main BBS... send (fido) netmail for more info ;)

No, I have TW2002 registered, but it stopped working when I upgraded to
Debian 9. I have recently learned it has something to do with a change
made in the version 4 kernel.

Oddly, TEOS still works so it must not rely on the same thing that TW2002
does.

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I looked through my history and can't find it... It was from a shareware cd of
ered by a site. cd.textfiles.com was one location I looked for doors. I have >oogled too many hours looking through old archived cd's online. YT30.ZIP is the
file I found (if that helps). I would dump the file here if I could for you.

Thanks, I will google for YT30 instead of "Yankee Trader." That search did
not turn up much BBS related stuff. :)

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On 2018 Apr 06 17:53:00, you wrote to me:

Also looking for an older, working DOS version of Tradewars.

are you talking about TW2002? do you still have your registration
keys? i have v2 and v3-Gold archives somewhere around here... we've
got like 6 or 8 games of TW2002-Gold running on the main BBS... send
(fido) netmail for more info ;)

No, I have TW2002 registered,

right but which version? if you registered v2 and i send you v3, the registration won't work or visa versa, either...

but it stopped working when I upgraded to Debian 9. I have recently learned it has something to do with a change made in the version 4
kernel.

have you checked your installation's memory configuration? i think, but can't be bothered to go digging right now, that oyu can tell TW2002 to use EMS, XMS or DPMI... if DPMI isn't working, then try using one of the other two... it may
require some additional adjustments to the DOSEMU configuration... i have an old brain cell kicking me in the back of my head saying there was a setting for
this in the DOSEMU stuff when we had to go in a few years back and adjust things to work properly with the BBS...

Oddly, TEOS still works so it must not rely on the same thing that
TW2002 does.

EMS, XMS and DPMI are different ways of managing memory larger than 64k... most
programs that recognized them would allow you to force the use of some subset of them or let the program decide on its own what it wanted to use...

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Re: Yankee Trader Com Port Is
By: Dumas Walker to MARK LEWIS on Fri Apr 06 2018 05:53 pm

No, I have TW2002 registered, but it stopped working when I upgraded to Debian 9. I have recently learned it has something to do with a change
made in the version 4 kernel.

Oddly, TEOS still works so it must not rely on the same thing that TW2002 does.

two differnet authors and different doorkits.

was your tradewars 2002 dpmi?
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Mike,

I have a registered version of TW2002, but it no longer runs with dosemu DW>under linux kernel 4+. Something about the DMPI (or DPMI, I never get that DW>right!). The older verion I have runs and does not complain about DW>registration, but it does not have a maintenance program to go with it.

I think the DPMI was with version 3.08 or 3.09 -- the earlier versions
did look for EMS memory, if you had the command to do such in the
batchfile, or in your AUTOEXEC file.

I actually have source code for one of the versions. I should try digging DW>out one of my old compilers and see if I can compile it.

What version of Trade Wars do you not have the EXTERN for?? I might
have version 1.03d of the game archived over here (I'm not running it),
but it may have an EXTERN with it that I could send you.

Daryl

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What version of Trade Wars do you not have the EXTERN for?? I might
have version 1.03d of the game archived over here (I'm not running it),
but it may have an EXTERN with it that I could send you.

It is TW 5 "Galactic Armageddon" v3.0, which I think is a different "fork"
than the one that lead to 2002. Not sure, but I think it is coded in a completely different language than the 2002 versions.

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On 2018 Apr 07 09:44:00, you wrote to DARYL STOUT:

What version of Trade Wars do you not have the EXTERN for?? I might
have version 1.03d of the game archived over here (I'm not running it),
but it may have an EXTERN with it that I could send you.

It is TW 5 "Galactic Armageddon" v3.0, which I think is a different "fork" than the one that lead to 2002.

yeah, that's seriously different from TW2002... i've never even heard of it and
i was deep into all of the TW stuff...

Not sure, but I think it is coded in a completely different language
than the 2002 versions.

it might be from the early pascal one that got out... i found one or two of those source code packs on my main system some time back... i don't recall downloading them but apparently i did... they weren't very large, either... not
sure what i did with them, now...

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Re: Yankee Trader And More
By: mark lewis to Dumas Walker on Sun Apr 08 2018 02:30 pm

It is TW 5 "Galactic Armageddon" v3.0, which I think is a different "fork" than the one that lead to 2002.

yeah, that's seriously different from TW2002... i've never even heard of it and
i was deep into all of the TW stuff...

same here.
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It is TW 5 "Galactic Armageddon" v3.0, which I think is a different "fork" >DW> than the one that lead to 2002.

yeah, that's seriously different from TW2002... i've never even heard of it an
i was deep into all of the TW stuff...

I found a DOS copy of TW2, which is the same version I think the SBBS java version is based on. It runs so I am happy. :)

Now all I have to do is finish upgrading my door converter so that it will create DOOR.SYS and DORINFOx files so that I can add Yankee Trader to my
list of doors (thanks to the link you shared last week!).

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