Can anyone visit my BBS's web site and test the Flash Telnet app listed at the bottom of the main screen and let me know if they're able to connect? I can't test it myself because I can't do "hairpinning" to my DDNS hostname and back.

http://coffee.synchro.net

Thanks.

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Hi! Charlie,

On 19 Mar 18 17:30, you wrote to All:

Can anyone visit my BBS's web site and test the Flash Telnet app
listed at the bottom of the main screen and let me know if they're
able to connect? I can't test it myself because I can't do
"hairpinning" to my DDNS hostname and back.

http://coffee.synchro.net

I might count as the best "anyone" for such a test. It's not something I regularly do. :-D

It looked real nice. The top graphic's display was delayed for a few seconds, as if the whoosiemajigger software was looking real hard for the file. Just before I left it I saw... "Up Time 0 days, 6:29:37". And it still seemed to be working fine.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Re: Flash Telnet test wanted
By: Charlie to All on Mon Mar 19 2018 05:30 pm

Can anyone visit my BBS's web site and test the Flash Telnet app listed at the bottom of the main screen and let me know if they're able to connect? I can't test it myself because I can't do "hairpinning" to my DDNS hostname and back.

Just tried it, it works great.

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Re: Flash Telnet test wanted
By: Charlie to All on Mon Mar 19 2018 05:30 pm

Can anyone visit my BBS's web site and test the Flash Telnet app listed at the bottom of the main screen and let me know if they're able to connect? I can't test it myself because I can't do "hairpinning" to my DDNS hostname and back.

http://coffee.synchro.net

It worked well for me.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al


... Help! I've fallen and can't reach my beer!

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Charlie wrote to All <=-

Can anyone visit my BBS's web site and test the Flash Telnet app listed
at the bottom of the main screen and let me know if they're able to connect? I can't test it myself because I can't do "hairpinning" to my DDNS hostname and back.

http://coffee.synchro.net

Working here. I just left you a message. :)


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Re: Flash Telnet test wanted
By: Charlie to All on Mon Mar 19 2018 05:30 pm

Can anyone visit my BBS's web site and test the Flash Telnet app listed at the bottom of the main screen and let me know if they're able to connect? I can't test it myself because I can't do "hairpinning" to my DDNS hostname and back.

http://coffee.synchro.net

It worked well for me.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

... Help! I've fallen and can't reach my beer!

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Thanks, Al, Denn, Paul. I'm glad *that's* working. That leaves just one or two more things to fix or tweak here!

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Re: Re: Flash Telnet test wanted
By: Charlie to Al on Tue Mar 20 2018 07:53 am

Thanks, Al, Denn, Paul. I'm glad *that's* working. That leaves just one or two more things to fix or tweak here!

One or two things to fix or tweak? I beg to differ!

In any event.. have fun. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al


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Re: Re: Flash Telnet test wanted
By: Charlie to Al on Tue Mar 20 2018 07:53 am

Thanks, Al, Denn, Paul. I'm glad *that's* working. That leaves just one or two more things to fix or tweak here!

One or two things to fix or tweak? I beg to differ!

In any event.. have fun. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Well, yes, I think so. I did a lot of work on the web interface yesterday, so now I have to get email working and add a bunch more files to the downloads area, and maybe try to beautify the web FTP interface and bring it in line with the theme of the rest of the site, then maybe play around with trying to add different door games. Oh, and figure out how to update from CVS without losing my customizations and configurations, to see if that fixes my occasional segmentation fault crashes.

I got the website theme changed to the way I like it; got DDNS and DoveNet working; got DOSEMU working (which was a royal pain because it's abandonware and the dosemu-freedos package in my Linux distro's repositories doesn't work: I had to find a working version of the source code and of Freedos then compile it); and more or less learned how to add files to the downloads (if I can only remember what I did a few weeks ago.)

I think I'm around 85% to 90% of the way toward getting a complete web-based BBS working (not counting still needing telnet for doors), which is what I'm after. Then I'll add it to the list.

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Re: Re: Flash Telnet test wanted
By: Charlie to Al on Wed Mar 21 2018 09:33 am

Well, yes, I think so. I did a lot of work on the web interface yesterday,

It shows. Your BBS web interface is nice and clean.

One day I will beautify mine.. :)

with trying to add different door games. Oh, and figure out how to update from CVS without losing my customizations and configurations, to see if that fixes my occasional segmentation fault crashes.

If you follow the directions at http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix you won't go wrong. There is a section there for updating.

I think I'm around 85% to 90% of the way toward getting a complete web-based BBS working (not counting still needing telnet for doors), which is what I'm after. Then I'll add it to the list.

My todo list seems to get longer, rather than shorter. I am working on it though.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al


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Re: Re: Flash Telnet test wanted
By: Charlie to Al on Wed Mar 21 2018 09:33 am

Well, yes, I think so. I did a lot of work on the web interface yesterday,

It shows. Your BBS web interface is nice and clean.

Thanks! It wasn't easy as it's not just straight HTML and CSS, or a CMS-based system, like I'm used to. Components of the web interface are in sbbs/web/root, web/templates, web/lib, and some of the stuff is done in code. (God only knows where the web FTP server's screens are generated from. I'll find them though.)

One day I will beautify mine.. :)

Handy tools for that include KFind (I have a KDE Linux system) or a similar file search app to let you search for strings of text within files in a directory, and Mozilla-based browsers' web developer tools. Also two websites relating to colors: https://www.computerhope.com/htmcolor.htm#color-codes and https://www.webpagefx.com/web-design/color-picker/ not to mention a good text editor and https://www.w3schools.com/Css/ for "how do I" references regarding CSS.

A lot of it is cut and try. Change something then view your board's website and see if what you did changed anything or not (if not, undo what you did) and if it did, did it do what you wanted or instead do something weird, like making a font huge or moving your breadcrumbs to one side or something like that.

with trying to add different door games. Oh, and figure out how to update from CVS without losing my customizations and configurations, to see if that fixes my occasional segmentation fault crashes.

If you follow the directions at http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix you won't go wrong. There is a section there for updating.

Thanks! That will save me some time searching the Synchronet wiki for instructions.

I think I'm around 85% to 90% of the way toward getting a complete web-based BBS working (not counting still needing telnet for doors), which is what I'm after. Then I'll add it to the list.

My todo list seems to get longer, rather than shorter. I am working on it though.. :)

They do tend to do that.

I did manage to get email working both directions just a few minutes ago, anyway. It would seem that besides blocking Telnet on port 23 my ISP blocks port 25. I had to relay outgoing email through VERT. But it works now, so that's something I can cross off my list.

Gotta fix the crashes, and get sbbs to run as a daemon/service on boot instead of having to manually start it in a command console. I wonder if sbbs can be daemonized as an unprivileged user instead of having to run as root? (Dang, that's one more "to-do list" addition! You're right!)

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On 2018 Mar 21 19:42:02, you wrote to Al:

I wonder if sbbs can be daemonized as an unprivileged user instead of having to run as root?

yes it can... that's how SBBS can be started as root to bind to <1024 ports and
then drop its privs to that of the user it is running as...

Max uses this li'l ole SYSV init script for her SBBS running on ubuntu server... i don't know if it has been modified or not, though... also not sure where it was found and copied from...

watch the wordwrap... if i've counted right, there's 100 lines including the blank one at the end...

the script is owned by root:root and has permissions 755...

----->8 /etc/init.d/sbbs 8<-----
#!/bin/sh

# Debian Linux system service run script (init file) for Synchronet
#
# This file normally goes in your /etc/init.d directory
#
# $Id: sbbs.debian,v 1.4 2011/10/17 09:00:36 sbbs Exp $

### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: sbbs
# Required-Start: $local_fs $remote_fs $network $syslog
# Required-Stop: $local_fs $remote_fs $network $syslog
# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
# Default-Stop: 0 1 6
# Short-Description: Start/stop Synchronet BBS services
# X-Interactive: false
### END INIT INFO

########################################
# Synchronet BBS Debian startup script # ########################################
# by Karloch <karloch@hispamsx.org> 8 Dec 2005

# You can edit these vars to meet your system configuration

PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin
SBBSROOT=/sbbs
DAEMON=$SBBSROOT/exec/sbbs

# Command Line options (e.g. daemonize)
OPTIONS="-d"

export SBBSCTRL=$SBBSROOT/ctrl
export SHELL=/bin/bash
# Uncomment if you want core files created with an unlimited size:
#ulimit -c unlimited

# DO NOT edit anything below this line unless you know what you doing

test -x $DAEMON || exit 0

case "$1" in
start)
echo -n "Starting Synchronet BBS services... "
if start-stop-daemon --quiet --stop --signal 0 --exec $DAEMON
then
echo "[already running]"
else
start-stop-daemon --quiet --start --exec $DAEMON -- $OPTIONS
fi
;;
stop)
echo -n "Stopping Synchronet BBS services... "
if start-stop-daemon --quiet --stop --signal 0 --exec $DAEMON
then
if start-stop-daemon --quiet --stop --exec $DAEMON --retry 300
then
echo "[OK]"
else
echo "[timeout]"
fi
else
echo "[not running]"
fi
;;
restart|force-reload)
$0 stop
sleep 30
$0 start
;;
status)
echo -n "Synchronet BBS services status: "
if start-stop-daemon --quiet --stop --signal 0 --exec $DAEMON
then
echo "[running]"
echo -n "PID(s): "
pidof sbbs
else
echo "[not running]"
fi
;;
recycle)
echo -n "Putting recycle server mark on Synchronet: "
if start-stop-daemon --quiet --stop --signal 0 --exec $DAEMON
then
touch $SBBSCTRL/recycle
echo "[OK]"
else
echo "[FAILED]"
echo -n "Synchronet server doesn't seem to be running"
fi
;;
*)
echo "Usage: /etc/init.d/sbbs {start|stop|restart|force-reload|status|recycle}"
exit 1

esac

exit 0

----->8 EOF 8<-----


no clue how to do one for that damned systemd muck, either...

)\/(ark

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Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
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Re: Re: Flash Telnet test wanted
By: Charlie to Al on Wed Mar 21 2018 07:42 pm

code. (God only knows where the web FTP server's screens are generated from. I'll find them though.)

exec/ftp-html.js (it's actually configurable in the FTP server configuration in sbbsctrl or sbbs.ini).

digital man

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To: Charlie
Re: Re: Flash Telnet test wanted
By: Charlie to Al on Wed Mar 21 2018 19:42:02

Gotta fix the crashes, and get sbbs to run as a daemon/service on boot instead of having to manually start it in a command console. I wonder if sbbs can be daemonized as an unprivileged user instead of having to run as root? (Dang, that's one more "to-do list" addition! You're right!)

I think i saw you are running sbbs on linux - i have a set of scripts to start sbbs at boot time and use screen to let you connect to the admin console and disconnect for later use. You can get it in the download area at https://synchronetbbs.org

Marisa
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Re: Re: Flash Telnet test wanted
By: Charlie to Al on Wed Mar 21 2018 07:42 pm

code. (God only knows where the web FTP server's screens are generated from. I'll find them though.)

exec/ftp-html.js (it's actually configurable in the FTP server configuration in sbbsctrl or sbbs.ini).

digital man

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Norco, CA WX: 67.2øF, 39.0% humidity, 4 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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Thank you! It would have taken me a long time to locate that! I would have looked inside the sbbs/web directory, and not found anything.

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On 2018 Mar 21 19:42:02, you wrote to Al:

I wonder if sbbs can be daemonized as an unprivileged user instead of having to run as root?

yes it can... that's how SBBS can be started as root to bind to <1024 ports and
then drop its privs to that of the user it is running as...

Max uses this li'l ole SYSV init script for her SBBS running on ubuntu server... i don't know if it has been modified or not, though... also not sure where it was found and copied from...

watch the wordwrap... if i've counted right, there's 100 lines including the blank one at the end...

the script is owned by root:root and has permissions 755...

----->8 /etc/init.d/sbbs 8<-----
#!/bin/sh

# Debian Linux system service run script (init file) for Synchronet
#
# This file normally goes in your /etc/init.d directory
#
# $Id: sbbs.debian,v 1.4 2011/10/17 09:00:36 sbbs Exp $

### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: sbbs
# Required-Start: $local_fs $remote_fs $network $syslog
# Required-Stop: $local_fs $remote_fs $network $syslog
# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
# Default-Stop: 0 1 6
# Short-Description: Start/stop Synchronet BBS services
# X-Interactive: false
### END INIT INFO

########################################
# Synchronet BBS Debian startup script # ########################################
# by Karloch <karloch@hispamsx.org> 8 Dec 2005

# You can edit these vars to meet your system configuration

PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin
SBBSROOT=/sbbs
DAEMON=$SBBSROOT/exec/sbbs

# Command Line options (e.g. daemonize)
OPTIONS="-d"

export SBBSCTRL=$SBBSROOT/ctrl
export SHELL=/bin/bash
# Uncomment if you want core files created with an unlimited size:
#ulimit -c unlimited

# DO NOT edit anything below this line unless you know what you doing

test -x $DAEMON || exit 0

case "$1" in
start)
echo -n "Starting Synchronet BBS services... "
if start-stop-daemon --quiet --stop --signal 0 --exec $DAEMON
then
echo "[already running]"
else
start-stop-daemon --quiet --start --exec $DAEMON -- $OPTIONS
fi
;;
stop)
echo -n "Stopping Synchronet BBS services... "
if start-stop-daemon --quiet --stop --signal 0 --exec $DAEMON
then
if start-stop-daemon --quiet --stop --exec $DAEMON --retry 300
then
echo "[OK]"
else
echo "[timeout]"
fi
else
echo "[not running]"
fi
;;
restart|force-reload)
$0 stop
sleep 30
$0 start
;;
status)
echo -n "Synchronet BBS services status: "
if start-stop-daemon --quiet --stop --signal 0 --exec $DAEMON
then
echo "[running]"
echo -n "PID(s): "
pidof sbbs
else
echo "[not running]"
fi
;;
recycle)
echo -n "Putting recycle server mark on Synchronet: "
if start-stop-daemon --quiet --stop --signal 0 --exec $DAEMON
then
touch $SBBSCTRL/recycle
echo "[OK]"
else
echo "[FAILED]"
echo -n "Synchronet server doesn't seem to be running"
fi
;;
*)
echo "Usage: /etc/init.d/sbbs {start|stop|restart|force-reload|status|recycle}"
exit 1

esac

exit 0

----->8 EOF 8<-----

no clue how to do one for that damned systemd muck, either...

)\/(ark

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Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
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Thanks. I couldn't get my system to recognize that script as a service when I put it in init.d. I'm still working on daemonizing SBBS.

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From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

To: Charlie
Re: Re: Flash Telnet test wanted
By: Charlie to Al on Wed Mar 21 2018 19:42:02

Gotta fix the crashes, and get sbbs to run as a daemon/service on boot instead of having to manually start it in a command console. I wonder if sbbs can be daemonized as an unprivileged user instead of having to run as root? (Dang, that's one more "to-do list" addition! You're right!)

I think i saw you are running sbbs on linux - i have a set of scripts to start sbbs at boot time and use screen to let you connect to the admin console and disconnect for later use. You can get it in the download area at https://synchronetbbs.org

Marisa

Thanks, Marisa, but these scripts don't work on my (Mandriva-based) Linux distro. It doesn't have systemctl.

After the CVS update that I did this morning, the instructions on setting up daemon mode to start sbbs from http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix worked, which they didn't with my previous, non-upgraded installation. I have it set to start upon boot.

So that's one more thing I can cross off of my sbbs to do list. :)

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On 2018 Mar 22 17:25:54, you wrote to me:

Thanks. I couldn't get my system to recognize that script as a service when I put it in init.d. I'm still working on daemonizing SBBS.

awww, geez... sorry... yeah, there's a command thing you run that scans init.d and makes the softlinks in the various rc.x directories... i totally forget what that command is, though :( :( :(

)\/(ark

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On 2018 Mar 22 17:25:54, you wrote to me:

Thanks. I couldn't get my system to recognize that script as a service when I put it in init.d. I'm still working on daemonizing SBBS.

awww, geez... sorry... yeah, there's a command thing you run that scans init.d and makes the softlinks in the various rc.x directories... i totally forget what that command is, though :( :( :(

)\/(ark

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Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Relax. It's only ones and zeroes.
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It's OK. After doing a CVS update yesterday morning, the instructions for starting sbbs in daemon mode on the Unix install page of the wiki worked, which they didn't before.

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From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

To: Charlie
Re: Re: Flash Telnet test wanted
By: Charlie to Marisag on Thu Mar 22 2018 22:48:06

Ok, glad you got it working...

Marisa
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On 2018 Mar 23 15:30:38, you wrote to me:

Thanks. I couldn't get my system to recognize that script as a
service when I put it in init.d. I'm still working on daemonizing
SBBS.

awww, geez... sorry... yeah, there's a command thing you run that
scans init.d and makes the softlinks in the various rc.x
directories... i totally forget what that command is, though :( :( :(

It's OK. After doing a CVS update yesterday morning, the instructions
for starting sbbs in daemon mode on the Unix install page of the wiki worked, which they didn't before.

i finally went digging... the command is update-rc.d and you'd use it like this
with the script i posted...

update-rc.d sbbs enable

to disable the daemon, repeat the above command with "disable" instead of "enable"... enabling it means that it will automatically be run in the indicated runlevels when the system is booted or the runlevel changed... one can still

sudo /etc/init.d/sbbs start

to kick it manually... the options are "start", "stop", "restart", "reload", and "status"...

i know you don't need it now but there it is if you might need it in the future
;)

)\/(ark

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