• BinkIT

    From Al@VERT/TRMB to All on Friday, March 02, 2018 02:20:25
    Hello All,

    I haven't used binkit in some time and am about to have a fresh look at it so I'd like to hear any comments or pointers you can give me.

    In the past I have used binkit successfully with binkd mailers but have had trouble with Mystic's binkp mailer. What setting should I use to connect to a Mystic BBS?

    I see these two settings "AllowUnencrypted" and "AllowPlainPassword" in the binkit wiki page. I see both are not recommended but when would they be needed?

    I think Mystics mailer sends the password in MD5 mode, is that considered unencrypted?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Al on Friday, March 02, 2018 11:09:54
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Al to All on Fri Mar 02 2018 02:20 am

    Hello All,

    I haven't used binkit in some time and am about to have a fresh look at it so I'd like to hear any comments or pointers you can give me.

    I just set it up for the first time and it had to be modified (fixed?) to work with the version of Radius used by my uplink.

    In the past I have used binkit successfully with binkd mailers but have had trouble with Mystic's binkp mailer. What setting should I use to connect to a Mystic BBS?

    I haven't connected with a Mystic BinkP implementation yet.

    I see these two settings "AllowUnencrypted" and "AllowPlainPassword" in the binkit wiki page. I see both are not recommended but when would they be needed?

    I think AllowPlainPassword is needed when the link doesn't support CRAM-MD5 password. And AllowUnecrypted whent he link doesn't support encryption. These are just educated guesses.

    I think Mystics mailer sends the password in MD5 mode, is that considered unencrypted?

    No, CRAM-MD5 is a secure authentication mechanism which does not send a password as plain-text. That separate/different from encrypting the data sent during a mail session.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Digital Man on Friday, March 02, 2018 13:06:51
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Digital Man to Al on Fri Mar 02 2018 11:09 am

    In the past I have used binkit successfully with binkd mailers but
    have had trouble with Mystic's binkp mailer. What setting should I use
    to connect to a Mystic BBS?

    I haven't connected with a Mystic BinkP implementation yet.


    I had binkit running for about an hour overnight and binkit recieved a few inbound sessions with a link running mystic. The files were received and tossed fine but it looks like they were received in my unsecure directory. I had nothing to send to that node.

    I see "BINKP CRAM-MD5 of password does not match" in my syslog. sbbsecho also packed that mail for a point that gets sent across the lan to a binkd mailer and when I polled binkit from that mailer it looks like there was a successfull session but there was nothing to pick up in spite of the fact that there was mail to pick up.

    I'm going to go over my settup and try this out again when I get home tonight.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Al on Friday, March 02, 2018 14:42:36
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Al to Digital Man on Fri Mar 02 2018 01:06 pm

    Re: BinkIT
    By: Digital Man to Al on Fri Mar 02 2018 11:09 am

    In the past I have used binkit successfully with binkd mailers but
    have had trouble with Mystic's binkp mailer. What setting should I use
    to connect to a Mystic BBS?

    I haven't connected with a Mystic BinkP implementation yet.


    I had binkit running for about an hour overnight and binkit recieved a few inbound sessions with a link running mystic. The files were received and tossed fine but it looks like they were received in my unsecure directory.

    I had that same or similar problem when polling my uplink (running Radius) but it was addressed in CVS.

    I see "BINKP CRAM-MD5 of password does not match" in my syslog.

    During that same session (where files were received into the unsecure directory)? Or was this a different session?

    sbbsecho
    also packed that mail for a point that gets sent across the lan to a binkd mailer and when I polled binkit from that mailer it looks like there was a successfull session but there was nothing to pick up in spite of the fact that there was mail to pick up.

    I'm going to go over my settup and try this out again when I get home tonight.

    Okay.

    digital man

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  • From bgdjr@VERT/BGDCAG to Al on Friday, March 02, 2018 19:00:14
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Al to All on Fri Mar 02 2018 02:20:25

    Hello All,

    I haven't used binkit in some time and am about to have a fresh look at it s I'd like to hear any comments or pointers you can give me.

    In the past I have used binkit successfully with binkd mailers but have had trouble with Mystic's binkp mailer. What setting should I use to connect to Mystic BBS?

    I see these two settings "AllowUnencrypted" and "AllowPlainPassword" in the binkit wiki page. I see both are not recommended but when would they be need

    I think Mystics mailer sends the password in MD5 mode, is that considered unencrypted?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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    Add the AllowUnencrypted=yes to each node that is how I got mine working

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Al on Friday, March 02, 2018 21:57:20
    On 2018 Mar 02 13:06:50, you wrote to Digital Man:

    I had binkit running for about an hour overnight and binkit recieved a few inbound sessions with a link running mystic. The files were received and tossed fine but it looks like they were received in my unsecure directory. I had nothing to send to that node.

    I see "BINKP CRAM-MD5 of password does not match" in my syslog.

    check the length of your password... eight characters is traditional MAX for FTN stuffs... binkd will take longer passwords but it is best to limit to eight... also check your capitilization, ohs vs zeros, ones vs capital eyes vs lower ells... those are the first things i can think of...

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to mark lewis on Friday, March 02, 2018 23:09:42
    Re: BinkIT
    By: mark lewis to Al on Fri Mar 02 2018 09:57 pm

    I see "BINKP CRAM-MD5 of password does not match" in my syslog.

    check the length of your password... eight characters is traditional MAX for FTN stuffs... binkd will take longer passwords but it is best to limit to eight... also check your capitilization, ohs vs zeros, ones vs capital eyes vs lower ells... those are the first things i can think of...

    The binkd mailers log ends with "pwd protected session (MD5)" and "session in CRYPT mode" so I think the session is good. I'm about to cvs update and try again.

    Thanks for your input.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to bgdjr on Saturday, March 03, 2018 01:10:17
    Re: BinkIT
    By: bgdjr to Al on Fri Mar 02 2018 07:00 pm

    Add the AllowUnencrypted=yes to each node that is how I got mine working

    Sounds like you are successfully transfering mail with binkit. What mailers are you connecting with?

    My targets are binkd, mystic and irex. There could be others too like BBBS that I think will require AllowPlainPassword but I'll see when the time comes.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Digital Man on Saturday, March 03, 2018 01:35:34
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Digital Man to Al on Fri Mar 02 2018 02:42 pm

    I see "BINKP CRAM-MD5 of password does not match" in my syslog.

    During that same session (where files were received into the unsecure directory)? Or was this a different session?

    Yes, that was a session with a mystic mailer.

    Here is a section of my /var/log/messages from when I polled from my point yesterday. It looked like a successful pwd protected session on the remote side with binkd mailer but no mail was receieved when there was waiting mail.


    Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP connection accepted from: 192. 168.1.64 port 59436
    Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP Got inbound call from 192.168. 1.64:59436
    Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP Will encrypt session.
    Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP Inbound session for: 21:4/106. 1@fsxnet
    Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP Initializing crypt keys.
    Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP Remote disconnected
    Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP service thread terminated (0 c lients remain, 0 total, 1 served)

    I just did a cvs update and polled from my point again but the session was not successfull.

    Mar 3 00:36:02 trmb synchronet: srvc 0054 BINKP connection accepted from: 192. 168.1.64 port 33938
    Mar 3 00:36:02 trmb synchronet: srvc 0054 BINKP Got inbound call from 192.168. 1.64:33938
    Mar 3 00:36:02 trmb synchronet: srvc 0054 BINKP service thread terminated (0 c lients remain, 0 total, 1 served)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Al on Saturday, March 03, 2018 10:59:48
    On 2018 Mar 02 23:09:42, you wrote to me:

    I see "BINKP CRAM-MD5 of password does not match" in my syslog.

    check the length of your password... eight characters is traditional
    MAX for FTN stuffs... binkd will take longer passwords but it is best
    to limit to eight... also check your capitilization, ohs vs zeros,
    ones vs capital eyes vs lower ells... those are the first things i
    can think of...

    The binkd mailers log ends with "pwd protected session (MD5)"

    that means the session level passwords matched and authentication was good...

    and "session in CRYPT mode"

    that means that you're also encrypting the stream instead of leaving it bare and raw...

    so I think the session is good.

    indeed it is :)

    I'm about to cvs update and try again.

    i'm awaiting word from max to update her system... i have no clue what's going to break, though, with the recent changes to the make files... it took us a while to work out the script we're currently using to automate updates to SBBS... this might hurt some...

    Thanks for your input.

    you're welcome :)

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Al on Saturday, March 03, 2018 11:03:46
    On 2018 Mar 03 01:10:16, you wrote to bgdjr:

    Add the AllowUnencrypted=yes to each node that is how I got mine
    working

    Sounds like you are successfully transfering mail with binkit. What mailers are you connecting with?

    My targets are binkd, mystic and irex.

    irex is going to possibly be a/the real beeotch because it has a half implementation of binkp 1.1... it was that or something with one of the addon capabilities... i forget the details but it causes problems with systems written strictly to the spec...

    There could be others too like BBBS that I think will require AllowPlainPassword but I'll see when the time comes.

    FWIW: i generally find it best to leave the defaults as they are and let the mailers negotiate whatever session settings they like ;)

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Al on Saturday, March 03, 2018 11:06:38
    On 2018 Mar 03 01:35:34, you wrote to Digital Man:

    Here is a section of my /var/log/messages from when I polled from my
    point yesterday. It looked like a successful pwd protected session on
    the remote side with binkd mailer but no mail was receieved when there
    was waiting mail.

    we need to see the other system's log, too, so we can match things and see what
    it thought about the session... if binkit is case insensitive on passwords but the remote side is sensitive, it could easily be that your side assumed a secure session and the remote did not... both logs are extremely important when
    tracking these things down...

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Al on Saturday, March 03, 2018 15:00:39
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Al to Digital Man on Sat Mar 03 2018 01:35 am

    Re: BinkIT
    By: Digital Man to Al on Fri Mar 02 2018 02:42 pm

    I see "BINKP CRAM-MD5 of password does not match" in my syslog.

    During that same session (where files were received into the unsecure directory)? Or was this a different session?

    Yes, that was a session with a mystic mailer.

    Here is a section of my /var/log/messages from when I polled from my point yesterday. It looked like a successful pwd protected session on the remote side with binkd mailer but no mail was receieved when there was waiting mail.


    Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP connection accepted from: 192. 168.1.64 port 59436
    Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP Got inbound call from 192.168. 1.64:59436
    Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP Will encrypt session.
    Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP Inbound session for: 21:4/106. 1@fsxnet
    Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP Initializing crypt keys. Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP Remote disconnected
    Mar 2 03:29:31 trmb synchronet: srvc 0057 BINKP service thread terminated (0 c lients remain, 0 total, 1 served)

    I just did a cvs update and polled from my point again but the session was not successfull.

    Mar 3 00:36:02 trmb synchronet: srvc 0054 BINKP connection accepted from: 192. 168.1.64 port 33938
    Mar 3 00:36:02 trmb synchronet: srvc 0054 BINKP Got inbound call from 192.168. 1.64:33938
    Mar 3 00:36:02 trmb synchronet: srvc 0054 BINKP service thread terminated (0 c lients remain, 0 total, 1 served)

    That log output is from your services, which is used for incoming BinkP sessions. The outgoing connections (e.g. polling or sending outbound mail) will be logged from the event thread (with "evnt" prefix in the log entries).

    digital man

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Digital Man on Saturday, March 03, 2018 17:18:54
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Digital Man to Al on Sat Mar 03 2018 03:00 pm

    That log output is from your services, which is used for incoming BinkP sessions. The outgoing connections (e.g. polling or sending outbound mail) will be logged from the event thread (with "evnt" prefix in the log entries).

    I couldn't find anything that I think will be interesting to you.

    I do see log entries like this for binkout..

    Mar 2 03:21:10 trmb synchronet: evnt Semaphore signaled for Timed Event: BINKO UT
    Mar 2 03:21:10 trmb synchronet: evnt Running timed event: BINKOUT
    Mar 2 03:21:10 trmb synchronet: evnt Updating /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini
    Mar 2 03:21:10 trmb synchronet: evnt Updating /sbbs/ctrl/services.ini
    Mar 2 03:21:10 trmb synchronet: evnt Timed event: BINKOUT returned 0
    Mar 2 03:21:11 trmb synchronet: srvc 0000 Recycle semaphore file (/sbbs/ctrl/s ervices.ini) detected

    And this one for binkpoll. It was the only one I could find where it looks like it tried to poll 316:36/1 but I don't know what the remote log looks like.

    Mar 3 00:28:13 trmb synchronet: evnt Running timed event: BINKPOLL
    Mar 3 00:28:13 trmb synchronet: evnt Running outbound
    Mar 3 00:28:13 trmb synchronet: evnt Attempting callout for file /sbbs/fido/ou tbound.13c/00240001.dlo
    Mar 3 00:28:13 trmb synchronet: evnt Callout to 316:36/1@whispnet started.
    Mar 3 00:28:13 trmb synchronet: evnt Timed event: BINKPOLL returned 0

    I'm going to disable crons polls so nothing is in the outbound and let binkit run for a few hours and see if I can get the contents of logs both local and remote for my point address.

    Is there a way with "exec/jsexec binkit" that I can force a poll to my point?

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Al on Saturday, March 03, 2018 21:06:25
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Al to Digital Man on Sat Mar 03 2018 05:18 pm

    Re: BinkIT
    By: Digital Man to Al on Sat Mar 03 2018 03:00 pm

    That log output is from your services, which is used for incoming BinkP sessions. The outgoing connections (e.g. polling or sending outbound mail) will be logged from the event thread (with "evnt" prefix in the log entries).

    I couldn't find anything that I think will be interesting to you.

    I do see log entries like this for binkout..

    Mar 2 03:21:10 trmb synchronet: evnt Semaphore signaled for Timed Event: BINKO UT
    Mar 2 03:21:10 trmb synchronet: evnt Running timed event: BINKOUT
    Mar 2 03:21:10 trmb synchronet: evnt Updating /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini
    Mar 2 03:21:10 trmb synchronet: evnt Updating /sbbs/ctrl/services.ini
    Mar 2 03:21:10 trmb synchronet: evnt Timed event: BINKOUT returned 0

    Okay, that looks like you still have a revision of binkit.js with a bug that *always* ran the install routine when executed as a timed event. That was fixed in binkit.js rev 1.49.

    And this one for binkpoll. It was the only one I could find where it looks like it tried to poll 316:36/1 but I don't know what the remote log looks like.

    Mar 3 00:28:13 trmb synchronet: evnt Running timed event: BINKPOLL
    Mar 3 00:28:13 trmb synchronet: evnt Running outbound
    Mar 3 00:28:13 trmb synchronet: evnt Attempting callout for file /sbbs/fido/ou tbound.13c/00240001.dlo
    Mar 3 00:28:13 trmb synchronet: evnt Callout to 316:36/1@whispnet started. Mar 3 00:28:13 trmb synchronet: evnt Timed event: BINKPOLL returned 0

    If you enable debug log level, you'll get a lot more details about the poll session. This Mar 3 entry looks like you got the binkit.js fixed rev as well.

    Is there a way with "exec/jsexec binkit" that I can force a poll to my point?

    "jsexec binkit -p" will poll all links with Poll=true (or 'yes') in your binkit.ini file.

    "jsexec binkit -l <node>" will poll a specified node and *not* run a normal outbound scan.

    Details here:
    http://wiki.synchro.net/module:binkit#command-line_options

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to mark lewis on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 04:23:12
    Re: BinkIT
    By: mark lewis to Al on Sat Mar 03 2018 11:03 am

    irex is going to possibly be a/the real beeotch because it has a half implementation of binkp 1.1... it was that or something with one of the addon capabilities... i forget the details but it causes problems with systems written strictly to the spec...

    Irex seems to be working here with binkit on my end. It's early stages now but it looks good. :)

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Al on Tuesday, March 06, 2018 08:15:18
    On 2018 Mar 06 04:23:12, you wrote to me:

    irex is going to possibly be a/the real beeotch because it has a half
    implementation of binkp 1.1... it was that or something with one of
    the addon capabilities... i forget the details but it causes problems
    with systems written strictly to the spec...

    Irex seems to be working here with binkit on my end. It's early stages
    now but it looks good. :)

    binkp v1.0 connections or binkp v1.1?? i think it is when 1.1 is tried to be used with its enhancements where the problem comes in...

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  • From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to ALL on Sunday, June 09, 2019 11:36:00
    Has anyone else noticed any difficulties in their nodes sending stuff? It seems
    like my hub can send me stuff, but I can not send anything over due to a likely socket error. I am using Internet Rex.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sunday, June 09, 2019 12:22:59
    Re: BinkIT
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to ALL on Sun Jun 09 2019 11:36 am

    Has anyone else noticed any difficulties in their nodes sending stuff? It seems like my hub can send me stuff, but I can not send anything over due to a
    likely socket error. I am using Internet Rex.

    Got any logs to share? Or perhaps the node running BinkIT has some logs to share?

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to MATTHEW MUNSON on Monday, June 10, 2019 10:24:24
    On 2019 Jun 09 11:36:00, you wrote to ALL:

    Has anyone else noticed any difficulties in their nodes sending stuff? It seems like my hub can send me stuff, but I can not send anything over due to a likely socket error. I am using Internet Rex.

    we need logs... preferably from both sides and including the same connection attempt...

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  • From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to DIGITAL MAN on Sunday, June 09, 2019 04:00:00
    On 6/9/2019 12:22 PM, DIGITAL MAN wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON:

    Re: BinkIT
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to ALL on Sun Jun 09 2019 11:36 am

    Has anyone else noticed any difficulties in their nodes sending stuff? It seems like my hub can send me stuff, but I can not send anything over due to
    a
    likely socket error. I am using Internet Rex.

    Got any logs to share? Or perhaps the node running BinkIT has some logs to share?

    I also used WWIV's binkp client as well to test what was going on. But I do have them. I
    don't mind trying to help make all the products we use better.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MATTHEW MUNSON on Tuesday, June 11, 2019 11:05:40
    Re: RE: BinkIT
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to DIGITAL MAN on Sun Jun 09 2019 04:00 am

    On 6/9/2019 12:22 PM, DIGITAL MAN wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON:

    Re: BinkIT
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to ALL on Sun Jun 09 2019 11:36 am

    Has anyone else noticed any difficulties in their nodes sending stuff? It seems like my hub can send me stuff, but I can not send anything over due to
    a
    likely socket error. I am using Internet Rex.

    Got any logs to share? Or perhaps the node running BinkIT has some logs to share?

    I also used WWIV's binkp client as well to test what was going on. But I do have them. I
    don't mind trying to help make all the products we use better.

    Okay... so want to provide some of those log messages?

    digital man

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  • From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to DIGITAL MAN on Saturday, June 15, 2019 01:35:00
    On 6/11/2019 11:05 AM, DIGITAL MAN wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON:

    Re: RE: BinkIT
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to DIGITAL MAN on Sun Jun 09 2019 04:00 am

    On 6/9/2019 12:22 PM, DIGITAL MAN wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON:

    Re: BinkIT
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to ALL on Sun Jun 09 2019 11:36 am

    Has anyone else noticed any difficulties in their nodes sending stuff?
    It seems like my hub can send me stuff, but I can not send anything over due to
    a
    likely socket error. I am using Internet Rex.

    Got any logs to share? Or perhaps the node running BinkIT has some logs
    to share?

    I also used WWIV's binkp client as well to test what was going on. But I do
    have them. I
    don't mind trying to help make all the products we use better.

    Okay... so want to provide some of those log messages?

    I think things are going ok. I think Kurt had to reboot his computer.
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  • From Alterego@VERT/ALTERANT to Digital Man on Friday, July 26, 2019 09:15:30
    So I have two questions about binkit.

    1) Does binkit support IPv6 outbound polling? The reason I ask, is I have an uplink that is using IPv6, but when I poll it, nothing happens:

    Attempting poll for node 1337:1/0@tqwnet
    JSBinkP/1.120 callout to 1337:1/0@tqwnet started
    connecting to 1337:1/0@tqwnet at hub.uk.zt.erb.pw
    Connecting to 1337:1/0@tqwnet at hub.uk.zt.erb.pw:24556
    Connection to hub.uk.zt.erb.pw:24556 failed.

    (The hub.uk.zt.erb.pw address is on ZeroTier (a VPN network) - and I can connect to it fine with nc)

    I updated sbbs.ini so that it had OutboundInterface = 0.0.0.0,:: but that didnt seem to change anything...

    2) How does binkit handle updated nodelists?

    I found out that in sbbsecho.ini, I need to have the full name of the nodelist for Nodelist=, ie
    [domain:tqwnet]
    Zones = 1337
    DNSSuffix =
    NodeList = ../fido/nodelist/tqwnet.169

    But when the nodelist gets updated, does the nodelist_handler.js update this to the current nodelist.
    (Sorry, havent had tics come in, and havent yet got my head around how synchronet handles tic files and special tic files like nodelists.)

    ...ëîå*

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Alterego on Thursday, July 25, 2019 17:51:18
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Alterego to Digital Man on Fri Jul 26 2019 09:15 am

    So I have two questions about binkit.

    1) Does binkit support IPv6 outbound polling?

    As far as I know, yes. But Deuce is really the IPv6 guy.

    The reason I ask, is I have an
    uplink that is using IPv6, but when I poll it, nothing happens:

    Attempting poll for node 1337:1/0@tqwnet
    JSBinkP/1.120 callout to 1337:1/0@tqwnet started
    connecting to 1337:1/0@tqwnet at hub.uk.zt.erb.pw
    Connecting to 1337:1/0@tqwnet at hub.uk.zt.erb.pw:24556
    Connection to hub.uk.zt.erb.pw:24556 failed.

    That "failed" is something.

    That host is apparently IPv6 only and I don't have IPv6 setup here, so I can't really test it. Deuce (you can find him in #synchronet at irc.synchro.net) is really the IPv6 guy, so he should be able to help.

    2) How does binkit handle updated nodelists?

    I found out that in sbbsecho.ini, I need to have the full name of the nodelist for Nodelist=, ie
    [domain:tqwnet]
    Zones = 1337
    DNSSuffix =
    NodeList = ../fido/nodelist/tqwnet.169

    But when the nodelist gets updated, does the nodelist_handler.js update this to the current nodelist.
    (Sorry, havent had tics come in, and havent yet got my head around how synchronet handles tic files and special tic files like nodelists.)

    There's a module called tickit (http://wiki.synchro.net/module:tickit) which uses the nodelist_handler.js, again, Deuce. :-)

    digital man

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  • From Alterego@VERT/ALTERANT to Digital Man on Friday, July 26, 2019 12:29:57
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Digital Man to Alterego on Thu Jul 25 2019 05:51 pm

    That host is apparently IPv6 only and I don't have IPv6 setup here, so I can't really test it. Deuce (you can find him in #synchronet at

    You can create an IPv6 environment pretty easily using ZeroTier. (I'm happy to help if you are interested.)


    So while your ISP provider doesnt offer IPv6 (mine doesnt), you can have a private IPv6 network (which is what we use in TQWnet for the hubs.)


    As far as I know, yes. But Deuce is really the IPv6 guy.

    Hey Deuce, can you help me? :)


    ...ëîå*

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Alterego on Thursday, July 25, 2019 22:34:56
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Alterego to Digital Man on Fri Jul 26 2019 09:15:30

    I found out that in sbbsecho.ini, I need to have the full name of the nodelist for Nodelist=, ie
    [domain:tqwnet]
    Zones = 1337
    DNSSuffix =
    NodeList = ../fido/nodelist/tqwnet.169

    change that extension to .txt... when you get tickit working and have the nodelist_handler part in place, the handler will extract the nodelist from the archive and put it in the given directory with the given name... if you use numbers like above, they won't match after you get the second one because they'll all get that name... if you need help with tickit, just ask... that's one of the first things i went digging into... i'm a filegate hub and needed it to work a little better than it was ;)

    NOTE: i'm not deuce ;)

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  • From Alterego@VERT/ALTERANT to Rampage on Friday, July 26, 2019 13:37:50
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Rampage to Alterego on Thu Jul 25 2019 10:34 pm

    change that extension to .txt... when you get tickit working and have the nodelist_handler part in place, the handler will extract the nodelist from the archive and put it in the given directory with the given name... if you

    Ahh, awesome. Tks I'll give it a go...

    ...ëîå*

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Alterego on Friday, July 26, 2019 15:00:00
    On 07-26-19 12:29, Alterego wrote to Digital Man <=-

    You can create an IPv6 environment pretty easily using ZeroTier. (I'm happy to help if you are interested.)

    Yep. :)

    So while your ISP provider doesnt offer IPv6 (mine doesnt), you can
    have a private IPv6 network (which is what we use in TQWnet for the
    hubs.)

    And some of us leaf nodes use ZeroTier as well to connect to our hub. It works quite well.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Alterego on Thursday, July 25, 2019 23:16:45
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Alterego to Digital Man on Fri Jul 26 2019 12:29 pm

    Hey Deuce, can you help me? :)

    He's not around these parts lately. Which is why I pointed you to the IRC channel.

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Alterego on Friday, July 26, 2019 12:09:22
    On 2019 Jul 26 13:37:50, you wrote to Rampage:

    change that extension to .txt... when you get tickit working and have
    the nodelist_handler part in place, the handler will extract the
    nodelist from the archive and put it in the given directory with the
    given name... if you

    Ahh, awesome. Tks I'll give it a go...

    FWIW: here's my (very similar to the wiki example) config in tickit.ini for the
    fidonet *daily* nodelist...

    [DAILYLIST]
    [...]
    Handler=tickit/fidonet-nodelist_handler.js
    HandlerArg={"domain":"fidonet", "match":"Z1DAILY.Z*", "nlmatch":"Z1DAILY.*"} [...]


    then in sbbsecho.ini there's this bit in the domains section...

    [domain:fidonet]
    Zones = 1,2,3,4,5,6
    DNSSuffix = binkp.net
    NodeList = /sbbs/ftn/nodelist/fidonet.txt

    the NodeList line contains the final name for the extracted nodelist file... this is where and what nodelist_handler copies the file it extracted to...

    note that i copied the original nodelist_handler.js to fidonet-nodelist_handler.js because i have more than one FTN and need to do this for all of them so each will have its own nodelist_handler...

    the main reason i've copied nodelist_handler.js to other names is because i need each one to also execute a different command line after the file is successfully extracted and copied... this additional command line execution capability does not yet exist but its purpose is to compile the nodelist into a
    binkd compatible form with another tool... in my case, this additional command line capability is to compile the nodelist into a binkd format so binkd is automatically updated when the new nodelist arrives and is updated...

    this may all change and the copying to other handler names may not be needed if/when the original nodelist_handler.js comes up with an easy method of defining this additional command line capability... i understand it is currently being looked at and developed :)

    /me waves to echicken ;)

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  • From Altere@VERT/ATHEL to Digital Man on Monday, November 23, 2020 22:00:05
    Not sure if this needs to go to you or Deuce.

    I seem to have a monthly, sometimes bi-weekly issue getting echomail/netmail from my Fido HUB and have to send a msg so they can clear whatever on their end. Today I received a msg indicating this might be a problem beyond just my bbs per the last few sentences in their response. I've included their msg, and my service.log from that time. I couldn't find anything else relevant to this issue that may be needed. If I've missed something, please let me know and I'll include it.

    https://pastebin.com/vqDgmQ7C

    I see the connection at line 39, then the service thread terminated further down, with another inbound connection. Nothing on my end indicates a timeout unless I missed something but that was my first guess from their log.

    -altere

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Altere on Monday, November 23, 2020 20:27:53
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Altere to Digital Man on Mon Nov 23 2020 10:00 pm

    Not sure if this needs to go to you or Deuce.

    BinkIT was written by Deuce, so he would be the better one to talk to about it.

    I seem to have a monthly, sometimes bi-weekly issue getting echomail/netmail from my Fido HUB and have to send a msg so they can clear whatever on their end.

    And what BinkP implementation is your Fido HUB using?

    Today I received a msg indicating this might be a problem beyond just
    my bbs per the last few sentences in their response. I've included their msg, and my service.log from that time. I couldn't find anything else relevant to this issue that may be needed. If I've missed something, please let me know and I'll include it.

    The name and version of their BinkP software might help.

    https://pastebin.com/vqDgmQ7C

    Ah, I found in that log output: Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0

    I see the connection at line 39, then the service thread terminated further down, with another inbound connection. Nothing on my end indicates a timeout unless I missed something but that was my first guess from their log.

    I'd ask g00r00 what he thinks about that log output. :-)
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  • From Netsurge@VERT to altere on Monday, November 23, 2020 23:32:32
    Ah, I found in that log output: Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0

    I see the connection at line 39, then the service thread terminated fur down, with another inbound connection. Nothing on my end indicates a ti unless I missed something but that was my first guess from their log.

    I'd ask g00r00 what he thinks about that log output. :-)

    You might want to talk to your hub about updating at 1.12A47 as g00r00 has fixed numerous issues with the BinkP server.

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  • From Altere@VERT/ATHEL to Deuce on Monday, November 23, 2020 22:52:00
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Digital Man to Altere on Mon Nov 23 2020 08:27 pm

    BinkIT was written by Deuce, so he would be the better one to talk to about it.

    Directing to Deuce and posting a gitlab issue.

    I seem to have a monthly, sometimes bi-weekly issue getting
    echomail/netmail from my Fido HUB and have to send a msg so they can
    clear whatever on their end.

    And what BinkP implementation is your Fido HUB using?
    The name and version of their BinkP software might help.

    https://pastebin.com/vqDgmQ7C

    Ah, I found in that log output: Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0

    Actually, wrong ftn connection here's the one I'm having problems with:
    Nov 23 20:07:18 nemesis sbbs: 11/23 20:07:18 srvc 0073 BINKP Peer version: Internet Rex 2.67 beta 1a OS/2 (binkp/1.1)

    At this point, not sure if this is BinkIT bug or (likely) IRex, if the later, maybe something can be cooked up to play nice with it?

    -altere

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  • From Altere@VERT/ATHEL to Netsurge on Monday, November 23, 2020 23:26:41
    Re: Re: BinkIT
    By: Netsurge to altere on Mon Nov 23 2020 11:32 pm

    You might want to talk to your hub about updating at 1.12A47 as g00r00 has fixed numerous issues with the BinkP server.

    Wrong incoming connection, see my other response.

    -altere

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  • From Ragnarok@VERT/DOCKSUD to Altere on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 19:27:01
    El 24/11/20 a las 01:52, Altere escribi¢:
    Re: BinkIT
    By: Digital Man to Altere on Mon Nov 23 2020 08:27 pm

    DM> BinkIT was written by Deuce, so he would be the better one to talk to
    DM> about it.

    Directing to Deuce and posting a gitlab issue.

    >> I seem to have a monthly, sometimes bi-weekly issue getting
    >> echomail/netmail from my Fido HUB and have to send a msg so they can
    >> clear whatever on their end.

    DM> And what BinkP implementation is your Fido HUB using?
    DM> The name and version of their BinkP software might help.

    >> https://pastebin.com/vqDgmQ7C

    DM> Ah, I found in that log output: Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0

    Actually, wrong ftn connection here's the one I'm having problems with:
    Nov 23 20:07:18 nemesis sbbs: 11/23 20:07:18 srvc 0073 BINKP Peer version: Internet Rex 2.67 beta 1a OS/2 (binkp/1.1)

    At this point, not sure if this is BinkIT bug or (likely) IRex, if the later, maybe something can be cooked up to play nice with it?

    -altere

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    I always have a time out receiving files from my boss that have irex

    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Got M_NUL command
    args: SYS Momia BBS
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Got M_NUL command
    args: ZYZ Manuel Adorni
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Got M_NUL command
    args: LOC La Plata, Buenos Aires, ARG
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Got M_NUL command
    args: NDL ALL
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Got M_NUL command
    args: TIME 2020/11/25 19:00:02 -5:00
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Got M_NUL command
    args: VER Internet Rex 2.29 Win32 (binkp/1.1)
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Peer version:
    Internet Rex 2.29 Win32 (binkp/1.1)
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Got M_ADR command
    args: 4:90/1.0@fidonet 4:4/0.0@fidonet 4:90/0.0@fidonet
    4:902/0.0@fidonet 4:902/27.0@fidonet 4:902/100.0@fidonet
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Got M_PWD command
    args: CRAM-MD5-XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Remote addresses: 4:90/1@fidonet 4:4/0@fidonet 4:90/0@fidonet 4:902/0@fidonet
    4:902/27@fidonet 4:902/100@fidonet
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Inbound session for: 4:90/1@fidonet
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP CRAM-MD5 password
    match for 4:90/1@fidonet
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Unconfigured address 4:4/0@fidonet
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Unconfigured address 4:90/0@fidonet
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Unconfigured address 4:902/0@fidonet
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Unconfigured address 4:902/27@fidonet
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Unconfigured address 4:902/100@fidonet
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Adding outbound
    files for 4:90/1@fidonet (object)
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Sending M_OK command
    args: secure
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Sent M_OK command
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Sending M_EOB
    command args:
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Sent M_EOB command
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Got M_FILE command
    args: FCD4FFE7.WEI 2103 1606348162 0
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Receiving file: /sbbs/temp/FCD4FFE7.WEI (2.1KB)
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Got data frame
    length 2103
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Received file: /sbbs/temp/FCD4FFE7.WEI (2.1KB)
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Moving '/sbbs/temp/FCD4FFE7.WEI' to '/sbbs/fido/inbound/FCD4FFE7.WEI'.
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Sending M_GOT
    command args: FCD4FFE7.WEI 2103 1606348162
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Sent M_GOT command
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Timed out receiving
    packet data from remote: 4:90/1@fidonet
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Touching semaphore
    file: /sbbs/data/fidoin.now
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP service thread
    terminated (0 clients remain, 2 total, 491 served)

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Ragnarok on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 15:18:35
    Re: Re: BinkIT
    By: Ragnarok to Altere on Wed Nov 25 2020 07:27 pm

    I always have a time out receiving files from my boss that have irex

    Please add your details to the ticket here: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/185
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  • From Altere@VERT/ATHEL to Ragnarok on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 18:10:38
    Re: Re: BinkIT
    By: Ragnarok to Altere on Wed Nov 25 2020 07:27 pm

    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Sent M_GOT command
    Nov 25 18:48:35 scarlet synchronet: srvc 0053 BINKP Timed out receiving packet data from remote: 4:90/1@fidonet

    I've turned debugging on, waiting to test the connection again, I'm expecting the same results you're seeing. The M_GOT is sent, should be seeing Got M_EOB but instead it's timing out.

    -altere

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  • From Ragnarok@VERT/DOCKSUD to Digital Man on Thursday, November 26, 2020 23:02:00
    El 25/11/20 a las 20:18, Digital Man escribi¢:
    Re: Re: BinkIT
    By: Ragnarok to Altere on Wed Nov 25 2020 07:27 pm

    > I always have a time out receiving files from my boss that have irex

    Please add your details to the ticket here: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/issues/185

    added! thanks for notice.

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  • From Sysop@VERT/SBBS to Altere on Monday, February 08, 2021 23:20:20
    On Mon 23-Nov-2020 10:52p, Altere@1:275/201.0 said to Deuce:

    Actually, wrong ftn connection here's the one I'm having problems with:
    Nov 23 20:07:18 nemesis sbbs: 11/23 20:07:18 srvc 0073 BINKP Peer version: Internet Rex 2.67 beta 1a OS/2 (binkp/1.1)

    I did a internet search for internet Rexx 2.62 for OS/2 and I had no luck. Does anyone know where I can download the program?

    Thanks
    Phil
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Sysop on Monday, February 08, 2021 23:48:42
    Re: Re: BinkIT
    By: Sysop to Altere on Mon Feb 08 2021 11:20 pm

    On Mon 23-Nov-2020 10:52p, Altere@1:275/201.0 said to Deuce:

    Actually, wrong ftn connection here's the one I'm having problems with: Nov 23 20:07:18 nemesis sbbs: 11/23 20:07:18 srvc 0073 BINKP Peer version: Internet Rex 2.67 beta 1a OS/2 (binkp/1.1)

    I did a internet search for internet Rexx 2.62 for OS/2 and I had no luck. Does anyone know where I can download the program?


    try gert andersen
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  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to SYSOP on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 09:07:00
    Quoting Sysop to Altere <=-

    On Mon 23-Nov-2020 10:52p, Altere@1:275/201.0 said to Deuce:

    Actually, wrong ftn connection here's the one I'm having problems with:
    Nov 23 20:07:18 nemesis sbbs: 11/23 20:07:18 srvc 0073 BINKP Peer version: Internet Rex 2.67 beta 1a OS/2 (binkp/1.1)

    I did a internet search for internet Rexx 2.62 for OS/2 and I had no
    luck. Does anyone know where I can download the program?

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