• Newb question: how do I view my own BBS?

    From jay@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thursday, March 01, 2018 03:14:35
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    Stupid question time, but I didn't see this in the FAQs or docs. How do I access my own BBS locally? I want to see what it looks like from a user's perspective, especially since I just got sbbs working. Can I access it
    through the web browser on, say, localhost with some port number? Or
    telnet? I don't have a dyndns configured yet. Do I need to just to view
    my own system?

    SBBS for Linux 3.17 (I should add that to my .sig)
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to jay on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 23:00:27
    Re: Newb question: how do I view my own BBS?
    By: jay to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Mar 01 2018 03:14 am

    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    Stupid question time, but I didn't see this in the FAQs or docs. How do I access my own BBS locally? I want to see what it looks like from a user's perspective, especially since I just got sbbs working. Can I access it through the web browser on, say, localhost with some port number? Or
    telnet? I don't have a dyndns configured yet. Do I need to just to view
    my own system?

    SBBS for Linux 3.17 (I should add that to my .sig)

    Use a terminal client or a web browser and connect to your services. If your services are listening on localhost, then <scheme>://localhost should work fine (e.g. scheme is http, ftp, telnet, etc.).

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #31:
    Viv Savage: Quite exciting, this computer magic!
    Norco, CA WX: 47.1øF, 81.0% humidity, 0 mph SSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to jay on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 22:33:30
    Re: Newb question: how do I view my own BBS?
    By: jay to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Mar 01 2018 03:14 am

    Stupid question time, but I didn't see this in the FAQs or docs. How do I access my own BBS locally? I want to see what it looks like from a user's perspective, especially since I just got sbbs working. Can I access it through the web browser on, say, localhost with some port number? Or telnet? I don't have a dyndns configured yet. Do I need to just to view my own system?

    Depending on what linux flavor you're running.
    from the command line type ifconfig it will show your internal ip

    eth0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    inet-> 192.168.0.21 <-- netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255
    inet6 2601:680:c302:bb0:c5e2:2697:d9cc:f0c5 prefixlen 64 scopeid

    you can use that to log in locally
    note the above is just an example, use the ip from your machine.

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  • From jay@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thursday, March 01, 2018 07:36:56
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 23:00:27 -0800, Digital Man wrote:

    To: jay
    Re: Newb question: how do I view my own BBS?
    By: jay to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Mar 01 2018 03:14 am

    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    Stupid question time, but I didn't see this in the FAQs or docs. How
    do I access my own BBS locally? I want to see what it looks like from
    a user's perspective, especially since I just got sbbs working. Can I access it through the web browser on, say, localhost with some port number? Or telnet? I don't have a dyndns configured yet. Do I need to
    just to view my own system?

    SBBS for Linux 3.17 (I should add that to my .sig)

    Use a terminal client or a web browser and connect to your services. If
    your services are listening on localhost, then <scheme>://localhost
    should work fine (e.g. scheme is http, ftp, telnet, etc.).

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #31:
    Viv Savage: Quite exciting, this computer magic!
    Norco, CA WX: 47.1°F, 81.0% humidity, 0 mph SSW wind, 0.00 inches
    rain/24hrs --- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
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    OK, got that. Where do I go to configure sbbs to listen on localhost? I'm
    not seeing anything in scfg or sbbs.ini that lets me set that. I found a services.ini in ctl but don't see anything in that file about enabling localhost. (Sorry, I'm still learning my way around this app. I haven't
    done anything with BBSes since the 1990s, and that was VBBS.)

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  • From jay@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thursday, March 01, 2018 08:41:25
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 23:00:27 -0800, Digital Man wrote:

    To: jay
    Re: Newb question: how do I view my own BBS?
    By: jay to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Mar 01 2018 03:14 am

    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    Stupid question time, but I didn't see this in the FAQs or docs. How
    do I access my own BBS locally? I want to see what it looks like from
    a user's perspective, especially since I just got sbbs working. Can I access it through the web browser on, say, localhost with some port number? Or telnet? I don't have a dyndns configured yet. Do I need to
    just to view my own system?

    SBBS for Linux 3.17 (I should add that to my .sig)

    Use a terminal client or a web browser and connect to your services. If
    your services are listening on localhost, then <scheme>://localhost
    should work fine (e.g. scheme is http, ftp, telnet, etc.).

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #31:
    Viv Savage: Quite exciting, this computer magic!
    Norco, CA WX: 47.1°F, 81.0% humidity, 0 mph SSW wind, 0.00 inches
    rain/24hrs --- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

    Rather than starting sbbs as a daemon I started it in a console and I'm
    seeing a lot of ERROR 13s with it failing to bind various services to
    their respective ports, which may be why I can't log in locally:

    3/1 16:36:45 term Verifying/creating node directories
    3/1 16:36:45 term Adding Telnet Server listening socket on 0.0.0.0 port 23
    3/1 16:36:45 mail 0006 !ERROR 13 binding SMTP Server socket to port 25
    3/1 16:36:45 mail 0006 Will retry in 15 seconds (1 of 2)
    3/1 16:36:45 term 0003 !ERROR 13 binding Telnet Server socket to port 23
    3/1 16:36:45 term 0003 Will retry in 15 seconds (1 of 2)
    3/1 16:36:45 srvc Adding NNTP listening socket on 0.0.0.0 port 119
    3/1 16:36:45 srvc 0005 !ERROR 13 binding NNTP socket to port 119
    3/1 16:36:45 srvc 0005 Will retry in 15 seconds (1 of 2)
    3/1 16:36:55 web Adding Web Server listening socket on 0.0.0.0 port 80
    3/1 16:36:55 web 0007 !ERROR 13 binding Web Server socket to port 80
    3/1 16:36:55 web 0007 Will retry in 15 seconds (1 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:00 ftp 0004 !ERROR 13 binding FTP Server socket to port 21
    3/1 16:37:00 ftp 0004 Will retry in 15 seconds (2 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:00 mail 0006 !ERROR 13 binding SMTP Server socket to port 25
    3/1 16:37:00 mail 0006 Will retry in 15 seconds (2 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:00 term 0003 !ERROR 13 binding Telnet Server socket to port 23
    3/1 16:37:00 term 0003 Will retry in 15 seconds (2 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:00 srvc 0005 !ERROR 13 binding NNTP socket to port 119
    3/1 16:37:00 srvc 0005 Will retry in 15 seconds (2 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:10 web 0007 !ERROR 13 binding Web Server socket to port 80
    3/1 16:37:10 web 0007 Will retry in 15 seconds (2 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:15 ftp 0004 !ERROR 13 binding FTP Server socket to port 21
    3/1 16:37:15 ftp Adding FTP Server listening socket on :: port 21
    3/1 16:37:15 ftp 0004 !ERROR 13 binding FTP Server socket
    3/1 16:37:15 ftp 0004 Will retry in 15 seconds (1 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:15 mail 0006 !ERROR 13 binding SMTP Server socket to port 25
    3/1 16:37:15 mail Adding SMTP Server listening socket on :: port 25
    3/1 16:37:15 mail 0006 !ERROR 13 binding SMTP Server socket
    3/1 16:37:15 mail 0006 Will retry in 15 seconds (1 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:15 srvc 0005 !ERROR 13 binding NNTP socket to port 119
    3/1 16:37:15 srvc Adding NNTP listening socket on :: port 119
    3/1 16:37:15 srvc 0005 !ERROR 13 binding NNTP socket
    3/1 16:37:15 srvc 0005 Will retry in 15 seconds (1 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:15 term 0003 !ERROR 13 binding Telnet Server socket to port 23
    3/1 16:37:15 term Adding Telnet Server listening socket on :: port 23
    3/1 16:37:15 term 0003 !ERROR 13 binding Telnet Server socket
    3/1 16:37:15 term 0003 Will retry in 15 seconds (1 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:25 web 0007 !ERROR 13 binding Web Server socket to port 80
    3/1 16:37:25 web Adding Web Server listening socket on :: port 80
    3/1 16:37:25 web 0007 !ERROR 13 binding Web Server socket
    3/1 16:37:25 web 0007 Will retry in 15 seconds (1 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:30 ftp 0004 !ERROR 13 binding FTP Server socket
    3/1 16:37:30 ftp 0004 Will retry in 15 seconds (2 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:30 mail 0006 !ERROR 13 binding SMTP Server socket
    3/1 16:37:30 mail 0006 Will retry in 15 seconds (2 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:30 srvc 0005 !ERROR 13 binding NNTP socket
    3/1 16:37:30 srvc 0005 Will retry in 15 seconds (2 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:30 term 0003 !ERROR 13 binding Telnet Server socket
    3/1 16:37:30 term 0003 Will retry in 15 seconds (2 of 2)
    3/1 16:37:40 web 0007 !ERROR 13 binding Web Server socket
    3/1 16:37:40 web 0007 Will retry in 15 seconds (2 of 2) [Threads: 7 Sockets: 10 Clients: 0 Served: 0 Errors: 5] (?=Help): ?

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  • From jay@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thursday, March 01, 2018 09:03:40
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 22:33:30 -0700, Denn wrote:

    To: jay
    Re: Newb question: how do I view my own BBS?
    By: jay to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Mar 01 2018 03:14 am

    Stupid question time, but I didn't see this in the FAQs or docs.
    How do I ja> access my own BBS locally? I want to see what it looks
    like from a user's ja> perspective, especially since I just got sbbs
    working. Can I access it ja> through the web browser on, say, localhost
    with some port number? Or ja> telnet? I don't have a dyndns configured
    yet. Do I need to just to view ja> my own system?

    Depending on what linux flavor you're running.
    from the command line type ifconfig it will show your internal ip

    eth0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    inet-> 192.168.0.21 <-- netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast
    192.168.0.255 inet6 2601:680:c302:bb0:c5e2:2697:d9cc:f0c5
    prefixlen 64 scopeid

    you can use that to log in locally note the above is just an example,
    use the ip from your machine.

    "... Amish safe sex: painting an "X" on the cows that kick."

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    Thanks! I'll try that, but see my reply to Digital Man re: my port-
    binding error 13s. I think I need to solve that first.





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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Digital Man on Thursday, March 01, 2018 03:23:52
    On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 23:00:27 -0800, "Digital Man" <digital.man@VERT>
    wrote:

    Re: Newb question: how do I view my own BBS?
    By: jay to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Mar 01 2018 03:14 am

    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    Stupid question time, but I didn't see this in the FAQs or docs. How do I access my own BBS locally? I want to see what it looks like from a user's perspective, especially since I just got sbbs working. Can I access it through the web browser on, say, localhost with some port number? Or telnet? I don't have a dyndns configured yet. Do I need to just to view
    my own system?

    SBBS for Linux 3.17 (I should add that to my .sig)

    Use a terminal client or a web browser and connect to your services. If your >services are listening on localhost, then <scheme>://localhost should work fine
    (e.g. scheme is http, ftp, telnet, etc.).

    DM failed to recommend a terminal client, in which case I'll step on
    and suggest you download a copy of SyncTERM if you don't have it
    already. This is one of the best clients for accessing your BBS. It's
    highly ANSI compatible and works well with Synchronet.

    Just connect, as people have said, to your localhost port.

    You might want to create a regular user as well as your sysop account
    so you can test your access levels are correct.

    Good luck on your new BBS.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to jay on Thursday, March 01, 2018 02:15:58
    Re: Re: Newb question: how do I view my own BBS?
    By: jay to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Mar 01 2018 09:03 am

    Thanks! I'll try that, but see my reply to Digital Man re: my port- binding error 13s. I think I need to solve that first.

    You will need to solve this. It looks like you are running linux and if so only root can open ports below 1024. Almost all of them. There is a simple solution for this in the wiki..

    http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:linux_non-root

    Once you have your ports open successfully just..

    telnet localhost <port>

    and you can log on to your BBS from there to create your sysop account.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


    ... If Pro is the opposite of Con then what is the opposite of Progress?

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  • From jay@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thursday, March 01, 2018 10:01:38
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 03:23:52 -0600, Nelgin wrote:

    *snip*

    DM failed to recommend a terminal client, in which case I'll step on and suggest you download a copy of SyncTERM if you don't have it already.
    This is one of the best clients for accessing your BBS. It's highly ANSI compatible and works well with Synchronet.

    Just connect, as people have said, to your localhost port.

    You might want to create a regular user as well as your sysop account so
    you can test your access levels are correct.

    Good luck on your new BBS.

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    Thanks for the tip. I'll try it.





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  • From jay@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thursday, March 01, 2018 10:58:36
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 02:15:58 -0800, Al wrote:

    To: jay
    Re: Re: Newb question: how do I view my own BBS?
    By: jay to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Mar 01 2018 09:03 am

    Thanks! I'll try that, but see my reply to Digital Man re: my port- binding error 13s. I think I need to solve that first.

    You will need to solve this. It looks like you are running linux and if
    so only root can open ports below 1024. Almost all of them. There is a
    simple solution for this in the wiki..

    http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:linux_non-root

    Once you have your ports open successfully just..

    telnet localhost <port>

    and you can log on to your BBS from there to create your sysop account.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


    ... If Pro is the opposite of Con then what is the opposite of Progress?

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    THANKS! That worked (the wiki article.) I'd seen it but there's so much information for a newbie to figure out, I didn't realize that was what
    was affecting my board.

    FYI I have to connect to my local IP address, not localhost. But I can
    get in via telnet and the web server, and was able to set up the sysop
    account and create a guest account.

    Now to twiddle with its appearance and figure out how to join DoveNET and FidoNet. Whee! :)





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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Al on Thursday, March 01, 2018 08:15:30
    Re: Re: Newb question: how do I view my own BBS?
    By: Al to jay on Thu Mar 01 2018 02:15 am

    ... If Pro is the opposite of Con then what is the opposite of Progress?

    Hahaha Con-gress lol - stolen

    "... It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious."

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to jay on Thursday, March 01, 2018 10:28:43
    Re: Re: Newb question: how do I view my own BBS?
    By: jay to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Mar 01 2018 07:36 am

    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 23:00:27 -0800, Digital Man wrote:

    To: jay
    Re: Newb question: how do I view my own BBS?
    By: jay to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Mar 01 2018 03:14 am

    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

    Stupid question time, but I didn't see this in the FAQs or docs. How
    do I access my own BBS locally? I want to see what it looks like from
    a user's perspective, especially since I just got sbbs working. Can I access it through the web browser on, say, localhost with some port number? Or telnet? I don't have a dyndns configured yet. Do I need to just to view my own system?

    SBBS for Linux 3.17 (I should add that to my .sig)

    Use a terminal client or a web browser and connect to your services. If your services are listening on localhost, then <scheme>://localhost
    should work fine (e.g. scheme is http, ftp, telnet, etc.).

    OK, got that. Where do I go to configure sbbs to listen on localhost?

    In ctrl/sbbs.ini:
    http://wiki.synchro.net/config:sbbs.ini#global

    By default, sbbs listens on *all* interfaces, so that includes localhost.

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #44:
    It really, it does disturb me, but i'll rise above it; I'm a professional. Norco, CA WX: 55.1øF, 60.0% humidity, 0 mph WSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to jay on Thursday, March 01, 2018 10:29:57
    Re: Re: Newb question: how do I view my own BBS?
    By: jay to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Mar 01 2018 08:41 am

    Rather than starting sbbs as a daemon I started it in a console and I'm seeing a lot of ERROR 13s with it failing to bind various services to
    their respective ports, which may be why I can't log in locally:

    http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#bind

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #7:
    BPS = Bits Per Second
    Norco, CA WX: 55.1øF, 60.0% humidity, 0 mph WSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to jay on Thursday, March 01, 2018 12:11:08
    On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 08:41:25 +0000, "jay" <jay@VERT> wrote:

    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet


    Rather than starting sbbs as a daemon I started it in a console and I'm >seeing a lot of ERROR 13s with it failing to bind various services to
    their respective ports, which may be why I can't log in locally:

    You can't bind to ports under 1024 unless you are root. There is a
    workaround using the setcap command.

    All on one line, use the following command, replace .debug with
    .release if you built a release version.

    setcap 'cap_net_bind_service=+ep'
    /sbbs/src/sbbs3/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug/sbbs

    You need to do this every time you recompile sbbs.

    http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:linux_non-root

    http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:systemd

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