• FTP

    From Thomas Bampi@VERT to All on Thursday, February 22, 2018 20:15:23
    Hello everyone! is there a special setting to make the synchronet 3.17a FTP service work outside the local network? if I try to query the ftp server with
    a client or a browser such as internet explorer, it does not let me see anything while I'm local.
    The ports on the 20/21 firewall are open

    Thank you
    Thomas
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Thomas Bampi on Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:43:49
    Re: FTP
    By: Thomas Bampi to All on Thu Feb 22 2018 08:15 pm

    Hello everyone! is there a special setting to make the synchronet 3.17a FTP service work outside the local network? if I try to query the ftp server with
    a client or a browser such as internet explorer, it does not let me see anything while I'm local.
    The ports on the 20/21 firewall are open

    No, no special setting. If your FTP server is behind a NAT gateway (typical in routers these days), there are special considerations however: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ftp_connect

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  • From Thomas Bampi@VERT to Digital Man on Friday, February 23, 2018 21:50:03
    No, no special setting. If your FTP server is behind a NAT gateway (typical in routers these days), there are special considerations however: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ftp_connect

    Thanks Digital Man Works !!!

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  • From Minex@VERT/TDOD to All on Thursday, October 18, 2018 15:44:27
    Does anyone have any ideas as to why FTP doesn't work for me in a browser? I can ftp into my server via command line 'ftp bbs.tdod.org 5021' using my name and password.

    However, I'll log into my BBS via browser, then select "File Libraries" which takes me to 'ftp://bbs.tdod.org:5021/00index.html?$jnf436w2' but I keep getting a "This site can't be reached. bbs.tdod.org refuses to connect" error message.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Minex on Thursday, October 18, 2018 21:24:22
    Re: FTP
    By: Minex to All on Thu Oct 18 2018 03:44 pm

    Does anyone have any ideas as to why FTP doesn't work for me in a browser?
    I can ftp into my server via command line 'ftp bbs.tdod.org 5021' using my name and password.

    However, I'll log into my BBS via browser, then select "File Libraries" which takes me to 'ftp://bbs.tdod.org:5021/00index.html?$jnf436w2' but I keep getting a "This site can't be reached. bbs.tdod.org refuses to connect" error message.

    Looks like your FTP server isn't working with passive mode:
    $ ftp bbs.tdod.org 5021
    Connected to tdod.org.
    220-The Dawn of Demise Synchronet BBS (tdod.org)
    Synchronet FTP Server 1.476-Linux Ready
    220 Please enter your user name.
    Name (bbs.tdod.org:root): anonymous
    331 User name okay, give your full e-mail address as password.
    Password:
    230-Guest logged in.
    230-You have 20725760 download credits.
    230 You are allowed 240 minutes of use for this session.
    Remote system type is UNIX.
    Using binary mode to transfer files.
    dir
    200 PORT Command successful.
    150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
    -r--r--r-- 1 tdod tdod 512 Oct 18 22:21 00index -r--r--r-- 1 tdod tdod 512 Oct 18 22:21 00index.html -r--r--r-- 1 tdod tdod 10240 Oct 18 22:21 tdod.qwk dr-xr-xr-x 1 tdod tdod 512 Oct 18 22:21 main
    226 Download complete (582 cps).
    passive
    Passive mode on.
    dir
    227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,16,4,0)

    See that IP address there ^ (192.168.1.16)? That means you need to check this FAQ out: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ftp_nat

    Browsers typically use passive FTP by default, so that's why you're hitting that snag when using a browser.

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  • From Minex@VERT/TDOD to Digital Man on Friday, October 19, 2018 10:05:49
    Re: FTP
    By: Digital Man to Minex on Thu Oct 18 2018 09:24 pm

    Re: FTP
    By: Minex to All on Thu Oct 18 2018 03:44 pm

    Does anyone have any ideas as to why FTP doesn't work for me in a browser?
    I can ftp into my server via command line 'ftp bbs.tdod.org 5021' using my name and password.

    However, I'll log into my BBS via browser, then select "File Libraries" which takes me to 'ftp://bbs.tdod.org:5021/00index.html?$jnf436w2' but I keep getting a "This site can't be reached. bbs.tdod.org refuses to connect" error message.

    Looks like your FTP server isn't working with passive mode:
    $ ftp bbs.tdod.org 5021
    Connected to tdod.org.
    220-The Dawn of Demise Synchronet BBS (tdod.org)
    Synchronet FTP Server 1.476-Linux Ready
    220 Please enter your user name.
    Name (bbs.tdod.org:root): anonymous
    331 User name okay, give your full e-mail address as password.
    Password:
    230-Guest logged in.
    230-You have 20725760 download credits.
    230 You are allowed 240 minutes of use for this session.
    Remote system type is UNIX.
    Using binary mode to transfer files.
    dir
    200 PORT Command successful.
    150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
    -r--r--r-- 1 tdod tdod 512 Oct 18 22:21 00index -r--r--r-- 1 tdod tdod 512 Oct 18 22:21 00index.html -r--r--r-- 1 tdod tdod 10240 Oct 18 22:21 tdod.qwk dr-xr-xr-x 1 tdod tdod 512 Oct 18 22:21 main
    226 Download complete (582 cps).
    passive
    Passive mode on.
    dir
    227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,16,4,0)

    See that IP address there ^ (192.168.1.16)? That means you need to check this FAQ out: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ftp_nat

    Browsers typically use passive FTP by default, so that's why you're hitting that snag when using a browser.



    Nice. That makes sense. I ended up modifying my options to include LOOKUP_PASV_IP :

    Options=INDEX_FILE | HTML_INDEX_FILE | ALLOW_QWK | LOOKUP_PASV_IP

    It looks like the changes took affect :

    ftp bbs.tdod.org 5021
    Connected to tdod.org.
    220-The Dawn of Demise Synchronet BBS (tdod.org)
    Synchronet FTP Server 1.476-Linux Ready
    220 Please enter your user name.
    Name (bbs.tdod.org:rkinney): anonymous
    331 User name okay, give your full e-mail address as password.
    Password:
    230-Guest logged in.
    230-You have 20725760 download credits.
    230 You are allowed 240 minutes of use for this session.
    passive
    Passive mode on.
    dir
    227 Entering Passive Mode (73,153,13,62,4,0)

    However, I still get timeouts via the browser when hitting the URL:

    ftp://bbs.tdod.org:5021/00index.html?$jng75m1q

    FWIW, when I hit the internal IP address of the BBS, it works:

    ftp://192.168.1.16:5021/00index.html?$jng75m1q

    Hmm, I am testing this while inside my home network. I wonder if thats why ftp://bbs.tdod.org isn't working for me.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Minex on Friday, October 19, 2018 19:45:44
    Re: FTP
    By: Minex to Digital Man on Fri Oct 19 2018 10:05 am

    Re: FTP
    By: Digital Man to Minex on Thu Oct 18 2018 09:24 pm

    Re: FTP
    By: Minex to All on Thu Oct 18 2018 03:44 pm

    Does anyone have any ideas as to why FTP doesn't work for me in a browser?
    I can ftp into my server via command line 'ftp bbs.tdod.org 5021' using my name and password.

    However, I'll log into my BBS via browser, then select "File Libraries" which takes me to 'ftp://bbs.tdod.org:5021/00index.html?$jnf436w2' but I keep getting a "This site can't be reached. bbs.tdod.org refuses to connect" error message.

    Looks like your FTP server isn't working with passive mode:
    $ ftp bbs.tdod.org 5021
    Connected to tdod.org.
    220-The Dawn of Demise Synchronet BBS (tdod.org)
    Synchronet FTP Server 1.476-Linux Ready
    220 Please enter your user name.
    Name (bbs.tdod.org:root): anonymous
    331 User name okay, give your full e-mail address as password.
    Password:
    230-Guest logged in.
    230-You have 20725760 download credits.
    230 You are allowed 240 minutes of use for this session.
    Remote system type is UNIX.
    Using binary mode to transfer files.
    dir
    200 PORT Command successful.
    150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
    -r--r--r-- 1 tdod tdod 512 Oct 18 22:21 00index -r--r--r-- 1 tdod tdod 512 Oct 18 22:21 00index.html -r--r--r-- 1 tdod tdod 10240 Oct 18 22:21 tdod.qwk dr-xr-xr-x 1 tdod tdod 512 Oct 18 22:21 main
    226 Download complete (582 cps).
    passive
    Passive mode on.
    dir
    227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,16,4,0)

    See that IP address there ^ (192.168.1.16)? That means you need to check this FAQ out: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ftp_nat

    Browsers typically use passive FTP by default, so that's why you're hitting that snag when using a browser.



    Nice. That makes sense. I ended up modifying my options to include LOOKUP_PASV_IP :

    Options=INDEX_FILE | HTML_INDEX_FILE | ALLOW_QWK | LOOKUP_PASV_IP

    It looks like the changes took affect :

    ftp bbs.tdod.org 5021
    Connected to tdod.org.
    220-The Dawn of Demise Synchronet BBS (tdod.org)
    Synchronet FTP Server 1.476-Linux Ready
    220 Please enter your user name.
    Name (bbs.tdod.org:rkinney): anonymous
    331 User name okay, give your full e-mail address as password.
    Password:
    230-Guest logged in.
    230-You have 20725760 download credits.
    230 You are allowed 240 minutes of use for this session.
    passive
    Passive mode on.
    dir
    227 Entering Passive Mode (73,153,13,62,4,0)

    However, I still get timeouts via the browser when hitting the URL:

    ftp://bbs.tdod.org:5021/00index.html?$jng75m1q

    Your firewall/gateway is likely disallowing the second incoming connection for the data port. Welcome to the hassles of FTP.

    From that same FAQ:

    If your firewall cannot dynamically open/forward FTP PASV data ports for incoming passive FTP data connections, you can specifiy a limited range of TCP port numbers to use for passive transfers by modifying the PasvPortLow and PasvPortHigh values in the [FTP] section of your ctrl/sbbs.ini file. You will of course need to configure your firewall device to open/forward these ports to your FTP server.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Minex on Saturday, October 20, 2018 18:04:00
    On 10-19-18 10:05, Minex wrote to Digital Man <=-

    Hmm, I am testing this while inside my home network. I wonder if thats why ftp://bbs.tdod.org isn't working for me.

    Your router may not support "hairpinning". Using the external IP from within your LAN is fraught with pitfalls. :)


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  • From Minex@VERT/TDOD to Digital Man on Friday, October 19, 2018 21:56:27
    Re: FTP
    By: Digital Man to Minex on Fri Oct 19 2018 07:45 pm

    Your firewall/gateway is likely disallowing the second incoming connection for the data port. Welcome to the hassles of FTP.

    That was it! Thanks! I just went into my router and selected a range of IP's to forward to my Raspberry Pi. This was the same range of ports that I defined in the SBBS.ini file. Looks like its working now.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tony Langdon on Sunday, October 21, 2018 17:18:54
    Re: Re: FTP
    By: Tony Langdon to Minex on Sat Oct 20 2018 06:04 pm


    your signature has characters that cause display problems.
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  • From Paul Quinn@VERT to Tony Langdon on Monday, October 22, 2018 09:01:29
    Hi! Tony,

    On 21 Oct 18 17:18, MRO wrote to you:

    @TZUTC: -0500

    your signature has characters that cause display problems.

    This'll be good. Popcorn ready... don't hold back now.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to MRO on Monday, October 22, 2018 10:00:00
    On 10-21-18 17:18, MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    @TZ: 412c
    Re: Re: FTP
    By: Tony Langdon to Minex on Sat Oct 20 2018 06:04 pm


    your signature has characters that cause display problems.
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    Sure you're replying to the right person?


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Paul Quinn on Monday, October 22, 2018 13:55:00
    On 10-22-18 09:01, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    your signature has characters that cause display problems.

    This'll be good. Popcorn ready... don't hold back now.

    Yeah I dunno what he's smoking. :D


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Paul Quinn on Sunday, October 21, 2018 23:18:33
    Re: FTP
    By: Paul Quinn to Tony Langdon on Mon Oct 22 2018 09:01 am

    q
    Hi! Tony,

    On 21 Oct 18 17:18, MRO wrote to you:

    @TZUTC: -0500

    your signature has characters that cause display problems.

    This'll be good. Popcorn ready... don't hold back now.

    Cheers,

    what?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tony Langdon on Sunday, October 21, 2018 23:19:53
    Re: Re: FTP
    By: Tony Langdon to MRO on Mon Oct 22 2018 10:00 am

    On 10-21-18 17:18, MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    @TZ: 412c
    Re: Re: FTP
    By: Tony Langdon to Minex on Sat Oct 20 2018 06:04 pm


    your signature has characters that cause display problems.
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    Sure you're replying to the right person?


    http://i.imgur.com/32G4wiS.png
    i think it was a tagline with control characters in them.

    cleared the screen and some other stuff.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tony Langdon on Sunday, October 21, 2018 23:20:24
    Re: Re: FTP
    By: Tony Langdon to Paul Quinn on Mon Oct 22 2018 01:55 pm

    On 10-22-18 09:01, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    your signature has characters that cause display problems.

    This'll be good. Popcorn ready... don't hold back now.

    Yeah I dunno what he's smoking. :D



    i dont do drugs. i was just telling you about an issue with your posting.
    enjoy the popcorn, boys.
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  • From Paul Quinn@VERT to Tony Langdon on Monday, October 22, 2018 16:06:39
    Hi! Tony,

    On 10/22/2018 01:55 PM, you wrote:

    your signature has characters that cause display problems.
    This'll be good. Popcorn ready... don't hold back now.

    Yeah I dunno what he's smoking. :D

    Same same. There was a reference to a QWK reply of yours with a random tagline
    (text sequence) that might up-fuck a badly EPROM-ed 25 year-old VT-110 terminal. That's just my ill-informed thoughts.

    Even Confucius once said 'shit happens' (though never quoted). ;)

    Cheers,
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  • From Paul Quinn@VERT to MRO on Monday, October 22, 2018 16:11:29
    On 10/22/2018 02:18 PM, you wrote:

    On 21 Oct 18 17:18, MRO wrote to you:

    @TZUTC: -0500
    your signature has characters that cause display problems.

    This'll be good. Popcorn ready... don't hold back now.

    Cheers,

    what?

    Precisely.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to MRO on Monday, October 22, 2018 18:16:00
    On 10-21-18 23:19, MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    http://i.imgur.com/32G4wiS.png
    i think it was a tagline with control characters in them.

    Interesting, no one's ever mentioned that before, and this isn't the first time this tagline has been used. Will have to investigate further. Now your report makes sense. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to MRO on Monday, October 22, 2018 18:19:00
    On 10-21-18 23:20, MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    i dont do drugs. i was just telling you about an issue with your
    posting. enjoy the popcorn, boys.

    Thanks, yeah the original message wasn't clear, but your followup response has clarified it. Thanks. :) I've been able to reproduce the issue. I'll see if I can fix the offending tagline.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Paul Quinn on Monday, October 22, 2018 18:28:00
    On 10-22-18 16:06, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Same same. There was a reference to a QWK reply of yours with a random tagline (text sequence) that might up-fuck a badly EPROM-ed 25 year-old VT-110 terminal. That's just my ill-informed thoughts.

    Actually it also causes a hiccup when viewed online in Synchronet/SyncTerm. I don't know what terminal MRO uses, but the avoce is the combination I was able to reproduce the issue in.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Monday, October 22, 2018 18:32:00
    On 10-21-18 23:19, MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    i think it was a tagline with control characters in them.

    Testing an edit...


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  • From Paul Quinn@VERT to Tony Langdon on Monday, October 22, 2018 18:21:42
    Hi! Tony,

    On 10/22/2018 06:28 PM, you wrote:

    Actually it also causes a hiccup when viewed online in Synchronet/SyncTerm. I don't know what terminal MRO uses, but the
    avoce is the combination I was able to reproduce the issue in.

    Oh.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Paul Quinn on Tuesday, October 23, 2018 06:26:00
    On 10-22-18 18:21, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Bugger! There it goes again! Bloody troublesome tribbles. ;)

    Yeah, tribbles got into the works again. :D


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Paul Quinn on Monday, October 22, 2018 19:41:21
    Re: FTP
    By: Paul Quinn to Tony Langdon on Mon Oct 22 2018 04:06 pm

    Yeah I dunno what he's smoking. :D

    Same same. There was a reference to a QWK reply of yours with a random tagline
    (text sequence) that might up-fuck a badly EPROM-ed 25 year-old VT-110 terminal. That's just my ill-informed thoughts.


    that's weird because i'm using a top of the line computer and not using a vt-100 terminal.

    whats with the attitude?
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  • From Paul Quinn@VERT to MRO on Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:38:04
    Hi!

    On 22 Oct 18 19:41, you wrote to me:

    Same same. There was a reference to a QWK reply of yours with a
    random tagline (text sequence) that might up-fuck a badly EPROM-ed
    25 year-old VT-110 terminal. That's just my ill-informed thoughts.

    that's weird because i'm using a top of the line computer and not
    using a vt-100 terminal.

    Same same, here. Though it is three years old and the screen's a bit older (six years). I was seeing two things: a text string. Oh. Ahmm... I was seeing
    the same text string with either of two terminal proggies: Linux console on desktop running GoldEd; or, an old (~2009) Dell netbook running a Linux flavour
    of Thunderbird. No problem with either. I didn't see any point in trying my DOS or Windows stuff.

    whats with the attitude?

    T'ain't none really. Just my "ill-informed thoughts". I was seeing more potential strife with the weird characters on the faux origin line... no harm there IAC.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Paul Quinn on Wednesday, October 24, 2018 13:32:00
    On 10-23-18 11:38, Paul Quinn wrote to MRO <=-

    Same same, here. Though it is three years old and the screen's a bit older (six years). I was seeing two things: a text string. Oh.
    Ahmm... I was seeing the same text string with either of two terminal proggies: Linux console on desktop running GoldEd; or, an old (~2009)
    Dell netbook running a Linux flavour of Thunderbird. No problem with either. I didn't see any point in trying my DOS or Windows stuff.

    I didn't have an issue reading it either. The issue crops up when reading the offending tagline online over an ANSI/text connection (i.e. logged in over telnet, rlogin, SSH or dialup). I was aboe to reproduce what MRO saw, using what is considered a "current" setup (SyncTerm on Windows). I'm sure it would have been reproducible on a Linux terminal emulator. I didn't initially pick up a problem, because I was reading my mail using Multimail. You'd get the same result with GoldEd or Thunderbird, because they're not online viewing.


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  • From Paul Quinn@VERT to Tony Langdon on Wednesday, October 24, 2018 16:15:33
    Hi! Tony,

    On 10/24/2018 01:32 PM, you wrote:

    I'm sure it would have been reproducible on a Linux terminal
    emulator. I didn't initially pick up a problem, because I was
    reading my mail using Multimail. You'd get the same result with
    GoldEd or Thunderbird, because they're not online viewing.

    I've seen your original post several times in a SSH session to my Xubuntu desktop, with GoldEd. In fact it's displaying once again in another desktop on
    this notebook at present without any ill effect(s).

    The clue is possibly that it isn't what you refer to as a 'ANSI/text' display.
    What you're specifying is akin to what your mum told you about malicious vulnerabilities in using ANSI, all those years ago.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Paul Quinn on Wednesday, October 24, 2018 18:26:00
    On 10-24-18 16:15, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I've seen your original post several times in a SSH session to my
    Xubuntu desktop, with GoldEd. In fact it's displaying once again in another desktop on this notebook at present without any ill effect(s).

    But I'm sure the original escape codes in the tagline are being sent, it's not a normal BBS style terminal session. Apples and oranges.

    The clue is possibly that it isn't what you refer to as a 'ANSI/text' display. What you're specifying is akin to what your mum told you about malicious vulnerabilities in using ANSI, all those years ago.

    No ANSI bombs here, just a screen clearing embedded in the tagline, by the looks of it. Not harmful, but annoying, so I edited the escape code out of the tagline.


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  • From Paul Quinn@VERT to Tony Langdon on Wednesday, October 24, 2018 18:54:41
    Hi! Tony,

    On 10/24/2018 06:26 PM, you wrote:

    No ANSI bombs here, just a screen clearing embedded in the tagline,
    by the looks of it. Not harmful, but annoying, so I edited the
    escape code out of the tagline.

    DoOd, now's your chance. You're only a wacky timezone away, not in a different
    solar system. Your system has binkP as does mine (on two ports but don't tell anyone)... just send me a copy in a netmail and let me assess the damage. It'll be the highlight of my week. 8-)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Paul Quinn on Wednesday, October 24, 2018 20:53:00
    On 10-24-18 18:54, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    DoOd, now's your chance. You're only a wacky timezone away, not in a different solar system. Your system has binkP as does mine (on two
    ports but don't tell anyone)... just send me a copy in a netmail and
    let me assess the damage. It'll be the highlight of my week. 8-)

    Haha I don't need to do anything, all you need to do is log into any BBS carrying this echo and view the message online over a BBS terminal session (i.e. logged in as a user, not using GoldEd). :)


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  • From Paul Quinn@VERT to Tony Langdon on Wednesday, October 24, 2018 20:14:28
    Hi! Tony,

    On 24 Oct 18 20:53, you wrote to me:

    (i.e. logged in as a user, not using GoldEd). :)

    Crikey! That is a disgusting thought. ;)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Paul Quinn on Wednesday, October 24, 2018 22:14:00
    On 10-24-18 20:14, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    @TZ: 0258
    Hi! Tony,

    On 24 Oct 18 20:53, you wrote to me:

    (i.e. logged in as a user, not using GoldEd). :)

    Crikey! That is a disgusting thought. ;)

    Haha, well you gotta get your hands dirty to test. :D


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  • From Paul Quinn@VERT to Tony Langdon on Wednesday, October 24, 2018 21:55:44
    Hi! Tony,

    On 24 Oct 18 22:14, you wrote to me:

    (i.e. logged in as a user, not using GoldEd). :)
    Crikey! That is a disgusting thought. ;)

    Haha, well you gotta get your hands dirty to test. :D

    I found one... I found one, erm... an old syncTerm. Version 0.9.3b. :) It has two BBS entries: #1, my old BBS that got blown away in Big Bang #2 two months back; and, #2, an old listing for a West Australia BBS, now defunct also.

    Could you please set me up and advise your BBS's contact details and ID/pass for me, to: eskimo261@bigfoot.com (redirector address only - I never send from it, so, set it as a spam/trash source after you use it).

    Pretty please. ;)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Paul Quinn on Thursday, October 25, 2018 06:41:00
    On 10-24-18 21:55, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I found one... I found one, erm... an old syncTerm. Version 0.9.3b.
    :) It has two BBS entries: #1, my old BBS that got blown away in Big
    Bang #2 two months back; and, #2, an old listing for a West Australia
    BBS, now defunct also.

    Haha that's a start. :)

    Could you please set me up and advise your BBS's contact details and ID/pass for me, to: eskimo261@bigfoot.com (redirector address only - I never send from it, so, set it as a spam/trash source after you use
    it).

    Pretty please. ;)

    It's all there in the origin line. :P Oh, you'll have to create an account too. Or you can try guest access, which might give you enough to read the message (definitely no posting ;) ). ;)


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