Is Synchronet 3.16c set up for a 64bit OS, or is it strictly 32bit? I keep having problems with error messages telling me that a 16bit program will not run.

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Re: 64bit
By: Bill Gordon to All on Tue Dec 26 2017 10:46 pm

Is Synchronet 3.16c set up for a 64bit OS, or is it strictly 32bit? I keep having problems with error messages telling me that a 16bit program will not run.

That's not Synchronet. 64-bit editions of Windows aren't able to run 16-bit DOS programs because they don't have the 16-bit DOS virtual machine. Only the 32-bit editions of Windows have the 16-bit DOS virtual machine, so if you want to be able to run DOS doors, you'll need a 32-bit edition of Windows. Otherwise, I think Synchronet itself can run fine in a 64-bit Windows.

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Re: 64bit
By: Bill Gordon to All on Tue Dec 26 2017 10:46 pm

Is Synchronet 3.16c set up for a 64bit OS, or is it strictly 32bit? I keep having problems with error messages telling me that a 16bit program will not run.

If you are running a 64-bit version of Windows, 16-bit programs are not natively supported (this has nothing to do with Synchronet). You may have some success running 16-bit programs in DOSbox on Win64, but your better bet is to run a 32-bit version of Windows (e.g. XP, Win7, or even Win10) as a VM and run your BBS in that VM. Regardless of BBS software.

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Re: 64bit
By: Digital Man to Bill Gordon on Wed Dec 27 2017 12:58 pm

Re: 64bit
By: Bill Gordon to All on Tue Dec 26 2017 10:46 pm

Is Synchronet 3.16c set up for a 64bit OS, or is it strictly 32bit? I keep having problems with error messages telling me that a 16bit program will not run.

If you are running a 64-bit version of Windows, 16-bit programs are not natively supported (this has nothing to do with Synchronet). You may have some success running 16-bit programs in DOSbox on Win64, but your better bet is to run a 32-bit version of Windows (e.g. XP, Win7, or even Win10) as a VM and run your BBS in that VM. Regardless of BBS software.

why are you the only one who answers... is there anyone who knows what they are doing?
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Re: 64bit
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Dec 27 2017 08:40 pm

why are you the only one who answers... is there anyone who knows what they are doing?

I also gave an answer on this..

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Re: 64bit
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Dec 27 2017 08:40 pm

why are you the only one who answers... is there anyone who knows what they are doing?

Is that a Facebook imitation? :-)

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Re: 64bit
By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Dec 27 2017 07:33 pm

Re: 64bit
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Dec 27 2017 08:40 pm

why are you the only one who answers... is there anyone who knows what they are doing?

I also gave an answer on this..

I suspect it was sarcasm.

digital man

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Re: 64bit
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Dec 27 2017 08:40 pm

why are you the only one who answers... is there anyone who knows what they are doing?

That guy came back and apologized, apparently.

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Re: 64bit
By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Dec 27 2017 07:51 pm

Re: 64bit
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Dec 27 2017 08:40 pm

why are you the only one who answers... is there anyone who knows what they are doing?

Is that a Facebook imitation? :-)

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Is Synchronet 3.16c set up for a 64bit OS, or is it strictly 32bit? I keep having problems with error messages telling me that a 16bit program will

not

run.

It runs under 64bit but you can't run 16bit doors. I'm running Virtualbox
with a 32 bit version of Windows 10 in it so my Door Games can run.


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Is Synchronet 3.16c set up for a 64bit OS, or is it strictly 32bit? I keep having problems with error messages telling me that a 16bit program will

not

run.

One other thing I found was my compression software would not work either.
I'm not sure if 64bit compatible versions are out there.....


-=Thumper=-
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Re: Re: 64bit
By: thumper to Bill Gordon on Thu Dec 28 2017 07:42 am

One other thing I found was my compression software would not work either. I'm not sure if 64bit compatible versions are out there.....

They wouldn't necessarily have to be 64-bit. 32-bit executables should run in a 64-bit OS. As long as they aren't 16 bit.

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Re: Re: 64bit
By: thumper to Bill Gordon on Thu Dec 28 2017 07:42 am

Is Synchronet 3.16c set up for a 64bit OS, or is it strictly 32bit? I keep having problems with error messages telling me that a 16bit program will

not

run.

One other thing I found was my compression software would not work either. I'm not sure if 64bit compatible versions are out there.....

There are Win32 command-line versions of pkzip/unzip, rar/unrar, etc. What are you looking for?

digital man

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Digital Man wrote to thumper <=-

Is Synchronet 3.16c set up for a 64bit OS, or is it strictly 32bit? I keep having problems with error messages telling me that a 16bit program will

not

run.

One other thing I found was my compression software would not work either. I'm not sure if 64bit compatible versions are out there.....

There are Win32 command-line versions of pkzip/unzip, rar/unrar, etc.
What are you looking for?

pkzip & pkunzip


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Re: Re: 64bit
By: thumper to Digital Man on Fri Dec 29 2017 11:21 am

Digital Man wrote to thumper <=-

Is Synchronet 3.16c set up for a 64bit OS, or is it strictly 32bit? I keep having problems with error messages telling me that a 16bit program will

not

run.

One other thing I found was my compression software would not work either. I'm not sure if 64bit compatible versions are out there.....

There are Win32 command-line versions of pkzip/unzip, rar/unrar, etc. What are you looking for?

pkzip & pkunzip

I'm pretty sure that could be found many places on the web, but I even have v2.50 (for Win32) here: ftp://vert.synchro.net/util/pk250c32.exe

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Re: Re: 64bit
By: thumper to Digital Man on Fri Dec 29 2017 11:21 am

There are Win32 command-line versions of pkzip/unzip, rar/unrar,
etc. What are you looking for?

pkzip & pkunzip

My Synchronet exec directory includes zip.exe and unzip.exe, which are InfoZip's 32-bit zip and unzip tools. I thought they were included with Synchronet, but if not, you should be able to find them online. Synchronet's stock configuration was already set up to use those in the extractable and compressable files options.
But if you want pkzip and pkunzip, there is a 32-bit pkzip for the Windows command line that does both compression and extraction. I have it for download here if you want it: ftp://www.digitaldistortionbbs.com/win9xntxpvis/WIN-COMP/pk250c32.exe

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Re: Re: 64bit
By: Nightfox to thumper on Fri Dec 29 2017 01:53 pm

Re: Re: 64bit
By: thumper to Digital Man on Fri Dec 29 2017 11:21 am

There are Win32 command-line versions of pkzip/unzip, rar/unrar,
etc. What are you looking for?

pkzip & pkunzip

My Synchronet exec directory includes zip.exe and unzip.exe, which are InfoZip's 32-bit zip and unzip tools. I thought they were included with Synchronet, but if not, you should be able to find them online.
Synchronet's stock configuration was already set up to use those in the extractable and compressable files options.
But if you want pkzip and pkunzip, there is a 32-bit pkzip for the Windows command line that does both compression and extraction. I have it for download here if you want it: ftp://www.digitaldistortionbbs.com/win9xntxpvis/WIN-COMP/pk250c32.exe

And I agree, you're better off using the Info-Zip tools. But either should work though the command-lines are quite different.

digital man

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Re: Re: 64bit
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Dec 29 2017 02:43 pm

And I agree, you're better off using the Info-Zip tools. But either should work though the command-lines are quite different.

I've seen a couple instances where my BBS was exchanging a zipped message packet (I don't remember if it was via QWK or FTN), and InfoZip's tool was unable to unzip it, but the pkzip tool had no problem unzipping it. Since then I have switched to the pkzip tool for unzipping.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: 64bit
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Dec 29 2017 03:28 pm

Re: Re: 64bit
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Dec 29 2017 02:43 pm

And I agree, you're better off using the Info-Zip tools. But either should work though the command-lines are quite different.

I've seen a couple instances where my BBS was exchanging a zipped message packet (I don't remember if it was via QWK or FTN), and InfoZip's tool was unable to unzip it, but the pkzip tool had no problem unzipping it. Since then I have switched to the pkzip tool for unzipping.

Hm. I wonder if maybe you/we had an old version of Info-Zip at the time.

The "shrink" method wasn't supported in Info-Zip's unzip before v6.0, but that was "fixed" in 6.0: http://info-zip.org/FAQ.html#unshrink

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Rob,

I'm pretty sure that could be found many places on the web, but I even have DM>v2.50 (for Win32) here: ftp://vert.synchro.net/util/pk250c32.exe

I still have the DOS versions of that, and use that with QWK Mail
packing on the BBS...for those who may be using older QWK Mail Readers.
I use ZIP/UNZIP for the FTN Netmail.

Daryl

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I've seen a couple instances where my BBS was exchanging a zipped message N>packet (I don't remember if it was via QWK or FTN), and InfoZip's tool was N>unable to unzip it, but the pkzip tool had no problem unzipping it. Since N>then I have switched to the pkzip tool for unzipping.

Right now, I use PKZIP/PKUNZIP for QWK Mail processing (for those
using older MS-DOS QWK Readers), but use ZIP/UNZIP for the FTN packets.
Also, while I have an Areafix password, and a password for my node
connections via Internet Rex, I have removed the packet passwords...as I
don't see a need for them.

As for the QWK readers, I use OLX myself...for whatever reason,
MultiMail kept crashing on me. While the taglines are shorter with OLX,
and I haven't figured out how to copy and paste from files with OLX (I
used Notepad with MultiMail), I'm happy with OLX. I don't think it's registerable anymore...but there are several QWK Mail readers available.

Daryl

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Re: Re: 64bit
By: thumper to Digital Man on Fri Dec 29 2017 11:21 am

There are Win32 command-line versions of pkzip/unzip, rar/unrar, etc. What are you looking for?

pkzip & pkunzip

you can get 32bit pkzip, pkunzip but i would just use zip/unzip because it's easier to find.

i have 32bit pkzip because i am a registered owner since the 90s and they have had a lot of releases.
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Re: Re: 64bit
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Dec 29 2017 03:28 pm

I've seen a couple instances where my BBS was exchanging a zipped message packet (I don't remember if it was via QWK or FTN), and InfoZip's tool was unable to unzip it, but the pkzip tool had no problem unzipping it. Since then I have switched to the pkzip tool for unzipping.

infozip should work unless it's some kind of new format. i think pkware had a new format of zip but it wasnt widely used.
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Hi Daryl,

On 2017-12-30 17:43:00, you wrote to NIGHTFOX:

I have removed the packet passwords...as I don't see a need for them.

Do you ultimately trust your secure links? Is incoming unsecure mail automatically processed on your system? Does the same apply to the systems of your links?

Bye, Wilfred.

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Re: Re: 64bit
By: Daryl Stout to DIGITAL MAN on Sat Dec 30 2017 05:38 pm

Rob,

I'm pretty sure that could be found many places on the web, but I even have DM>v2.50 (for Win32) here: ftp://vert.synchro.net/util/pk250c32.exe

I still have the DOS versions of that, and use that with QWK Mail
packing on the BBS...for those who may be using older QWK Mail Readers.

I'm not clear why you would need a "DOS version" for compatiblity with older QWK Mail readers. The modern versions of pkunzip and info-zip can create ZIP files compatible with the oldest versions of pkunzip. And they can extract any ZIP file. So I don't think running an old version is really necessary. <shrug>

digital man

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Rob,

I'm not clear why you would need a "DOS version" for compatiblity with older DM>QWK Mail readers. The modern versions of pkunzip and info-zip can create ZIP DM>files compatible with the oldest versions of pkunzip. And they can extract a DM>ZIP file. So I don't think running an old version is really necessary. <shru

OK, I'll see if I can change that. I'm using OLX, as MultiMail kept
crashing over here.

Daryl

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