Do you believe this is from a bot accessing your system?
11/2 08:55:53 evnt QWK NetMail from VERT to =?utf-8?B?5ZSQ6I+K?= >11/2 08:55:53 evnt !QWK NetMail from VERT to UNKNOWN USER: =?utf-8?B?5ZSQ6I+K?=
Do you believe this is from a bot accessing your system?
11/2 08:55:53 evnt QWK NetMail from VERT to =?utf-8?B?5ZSQ6I+K?=
11/2 08:55:53 evnt !QWK NetMail from VERT to UNKNOWN USER: =?utf-8?B?5ZSQ6I+K?=
either that or line noise of some sort just randomly sending netmails?
How it got forwarded to your BBS from here via QWK is a bit of a mystery to me. If you have a copy of the QWK packet or any other info you can share I could look further into it.
Re: Qwk Netmail
By: Digital Man to KK4QBN on Thu Nov 02 2017 13:57:16
How it got forwarded to your BBS from here via QWK is a bit of a mystery to me. If you have a copy of the QWK packet or any other info you can share I could look further into it.
I really don't know if I can dig any more information up on it, the only way I noticed it is because I was running synchronet in a terminal at the time and noticed it in the backlog..
I cant recall even getting telegram notification that I received a qwk netmail, and there are no qwk messages sitting here.. ??
It was for an "unknown user", so it would've been dropped. No telegram or mail waiting for anyone. <shrug>
Rob,
In SCFG, I have the time zone set for U.S. Central Time (I'm in
Little Rock, Arkansas), and automatically adjust to Daylight Savings
Time. In the Synchronet Control Panel, on the upcoming event, that time
is right.
But, when I download the QWK Packets, it's in UTC Time.
Am I missing something??
Can you elaborate about the QWK packets: what exactly is "in UTC Time"? DM>Download QWK packet from where? What about them is in UTC time?
Rob,
Can you elaborate about the QWK packets: what exactly is "in UTC Time"? DM>Download QWK packet from where? What about them is in UTC time?
It's the QWK packet I get from my BBS. The time the packet was created
is in UTC Time, instead of U.S. Central Time.
This morning, I created the packet at 11:19am Central Time, but the
time on the TBOLT.QWK packet showed 17:19 (which is 6 hours ahead of Arkansas when Standard Time is in effect).
It doesn't have an effect on the time the messages were created in the
REP packet, though. But, I wonder if it's my QWK Reader (OLX)...yet, I
have to use OLX, as for whatever reason, Multi-Mail keeps crashing.
File timestamps don't include a timezone. How are you coming to this conclusion?
This morning, I created the packet at 11:19am Central Time, but the
time on the TBOLT.QWK packet showed 17:19 (which is 6 hours ahead of Arkansas when Standard Time is in effect).
How are you viewing this "time on the TBOLD.QWK packet"? Are you viewing the DM>date/time stamp from a command-line (say, with "dir")? Or using Windows DM>Explorer or what?
How are you downloading the QWK packet from your BBS?
I'm still not clear on what date/time/zone you're referring to.
Rob,
How are you viewing this "time on the TBOLD.QWK packet"? Are you viewing the DM>date/time stamp from a command-line (say, with "dir")? Or using Windows DM>Explorer or what?
It is via my QWK Reader, OLX. I checked the settings, and the current
time is correct in the program...but it's in UTC from what I download
from teh BBS.
How are you downloading the QWK packet from your BBS?
Via a regular logon with the MTel telnet client (I don't use the
"local logon option").
I'm still not clear on what date/time/zone you're referring to.
Too bad I can't send a screen shot of what I'm seeing in the echo.
Too bad I can't send a screen shot of what I'm seeing in the echo.
Re: QWK Packet Question
By: Daryl Stout to DIGITAL MAN on Tue Nov 07 2017 12:10 pm
Too bad I can't send a screen shot of what I'm seeing in the echo.
You could probably post a screenshot on Photobucket or a similar photo sharing service and paste a link to the screenshot in a message here.
And if you look at the file with Windows explorer or "dir", what is the DM>date/time stamp?
Try using a different terminal program then to download the packet (say, DM>SyncTERM)?
Why not? Anyway, I suspect your terminal program is the thing that's not DM>setting the date/time on the downloaded file correctly.
Too bad I can't send a screen shot of what I'm seeing in the echo.
You could probably post a screenshot on Photobucket or a similar photo sharin N>service and paste a link to the screenshot in a message here.
I'm already on more things than I'd like. I may just post a screenshot
on Facebook in the Synchronet group.
Rob,
And if you look at the file with Windows explorer or "dir", what is the DM>date/time stamp?
For this packet, Nov. 8, 2017, at 2:51pm (which is UTC Time).
Try using a different terminal program then to download the packet (say, DM>SyncTERM)?
OK, I'll see if I have different results with it.
Why not? Anyway, I suspect your terminal program is the thing that's not DM>setting the date/time on the downloaded file correctly.
I might be able to attach a file via QWK Mail, but I think that works
for "email" only.
Rob,
The time stamp on the QWK Packet is CORRECT with SyncTerm...but NOT
with MTel. I don't know why that is, though.
For whatever reason, MTel does NOT process the time stamp on the QWK Packet correctly...but SyncTerm does.
For whatever reason, MTel does NOT process the time stamp on the QWK
Packet correctly...but SyncTerm does.
I doubt very much it is specific to "QWK Packet", but more likely *any* file that is downloaded with MTel will have the timestamp issue. I don't think MTel knows what a QWK Packet is.
Re: QWK Packet Question
By: Digital Man to Daryl Stout on Wed Nov 08 2017 11:23 am
For whatever reason, MTel does NOT process the time stamp on the QWK
Packet correctly...but SyncTerm does.
I doubt very much it is specific to "QWK Packet", but more likely *any* file that is downloaded with MTel will have the timestamp issue. I don't think MTel knows what a QWK Packet is.
Not directly related to this, but one thing that used to bug me sometimes when I started using the internet (vs. BBSes), I noticed that when downloading files on the internet, web browsers (and I think FTP software also) would apply the current date & time to files I downloaded. So when looking at the file's timestamp on my PC, after a while, I realized the timestamp is the download date, not the file's creation date. When downloading a file from a BBS, I was used to being able to look at the file's timestamp to see how old it was, to determine if I wanted to check for an updated version. On the internet though, you could download something old like Netscape 1.0 today and the file would have the current timestamp. I suppose it's not really a big deal, but a file's timestamp can give you an idea of how old it is.
Rob,
The time stamp on the QWK Packet is CORRECT with SyncTerm...but NOT
with MTel. I don't know why that is, though.
I can think of valid arguments for both and perhaps there are options
in web browsers to control this behavior. Certainly the protocol (FTP
and HTTP) support enough detail about the file for the downloader to preserve the date/time stamp.
So.. that's from Windows explorer?
You could paste a link or if it's just text, copy and paste the text itself, DM>into the message body.
I'm not sure if MTel supports XMODEM however (and it's a pain with having to DM>enter a filename to write to).
I'm already on more things than I'd like. I may just post a screenshot
on Facebook in the Synchronet group.
Rob,
So.. that's from Windows explorer?
Yep.
You could paste a link or if it's just text, copy and paste the text itself, DM>into the message body.
Well, SyncTerm processes the QWK Packet Time correctly, but MTel
doesn't. Yet, MTel handles the ANSI in some things better than SyncTerm does. So, it's basically a trade-off.
Well, SyncTerm processes the QWK Packet Time correctly, but MTel
doesn't. Yet, MTel handles the ANSI in some things better than SyncTerm does. So, it's basically a trade-off.
REP packet, though. But, I wonder if it's my QWK Reader (OLX)...yet, I have to use OLX, as for whatever reason, Multi-Mail keeps crashing.
I'm still not clear on what date/time/zone you're referring to.
Well, SyncTerm processes the QWK Packet Time correctly, but MTel
doesn't. Yet, MTel handles the ANSI in some things better than SyncTerm does. So, it's basically a trade-off.
doesn't. Yet, MTel handles the ANSI in some things better than SyncTerm does. So, it's basically a trade-off.
I've never noticed any problems with ANSI in SyncTerm.
REP packet, though. But, I wonder if it's my QWK Reader (OLX)...yet,
I have to use OLX, as for whatever reason, Multi-Mail keeps
crashing.
I'm still not clear on what date/time/zone you're referring to.
just tested with a vert qwk packet; mtelnet's filedate is 7 hrs past my timezone, with syncterm filedate is correct. never noticed this because never really cared to look .
screenshot on Facebook in the Synchronet group.
Synchronet has a web server.. Why not put the screenshot on your Synchronet web server and share the link?
Well, SyncTerm processes the QWK Packet Time correctly, but MTel
doesn't. Yet, MTel handles the ANSI in some things better than
SyncTerm does. So, it's basically a trade-off.
I've never noticed any problems with ANSI in SyncTerm.
just tested with a vert qwk packet; mtelnet's filedate is 7 hrs past my timezone, with syncterm filedate is correct. never noticed this because never really cared to look .
apparently you are -7 from UTC then?
MRO wrote to Digital Man <=-
Re: QWK Packet Question
By: Digital Man to Daryl Stout on Mon Nov 06 2017 02:14 pm
REP packet, though. But, I wonder if it's my QWK Reader (OLX)...yet, I have to use OLX, as for whatever reason, Multi-Mail keeps crashing.
I'm still not clear on what date/time/zone you're referring to.
just tested with a vert qwk packet; mtelnet's filedate is 7 hrs past my timezone, with syncterm filedate is correct. never noticed this
because never really cared to look .
Synchronet has a web server.. Why not put the screenshot on your Synchronet N>web server and share the link?
What version of SyncTERM are you using? Can you elaborate on what "some thin DM>you think are better handled by MTel?
Those aren't the only two BBS terminal programs out there either. Have you DM>tried Netrunner or Qodem?
I've never noticed any problems with ANSI in SyncTerm.
Rob,
What version of SyncTERM are you using? Can you elaborate on what "some thin DM>you think are better handled by MTel?
SyncTerm 0.03, from what I can tell. If there's a more current
version, I'll grab it.
Those aren't the only two BBS terminal programs out there either. Have you DM>tried Netrunner or Qodem?
No. I've used PuTTY for a D-Star Ham Radio Net Application, but that's
it.
I've never noticed any problems with ANSI in SyncTerm.
It does on the way some of the ANSI screen show up at logon (screens
with an .ANS suffix, and not a .MSG suffix (with the CTRL-A codes)).
Also, on some screens in entering some IGMs with L.O.R.D. 4.06, the
first screen has "an extra solid line", but it disappears after the user goes to the next screen in the IGM.
Synchronet has a web server.. Why not put the screenshot on your Synchronet N>web server and share the link?
In that regard, where can I get additional "themes" for Synchronet's website?? My HTML knowledge is very basic.
In that regard, where can I get additional "themes" for Synchronet's website?? My HTML knowledge is very basic.
I've never noticed any problems with ANSI in SyncTerm.
It does on the way some of the ANSI screen show up at logon (screens
with an .ANS suffix, and not a .MSG suffix (with the CTRL-A codes)).
Also, on some screens in entering some IGMs with L.O.R.D. 4.06, the
first screen has "an extra solid line", but it disappears after the user goes to the next screen in the IGM.
Synchronet has a web server.. Why not put the screenshot on your
Synchronet web server and share the link?
In that regard, where can I get additional "themes" for Synchronet's website?? My HTML knowledge is very basic.
I'm not sure, I've never really looked for themes to Synchronet's web pages. Themes would have to be made specifically for Synchronet's web pages, and I'm not sure if anyone has developed any additional themes.
Synchronet has a web server.. Why not put the screenshot on your
Synchronet web server and share the link?
In that regard, where can I get additional "themes" for Synchronet's website?? My HTML knowledge is very basic.
I'm not sure, I've never really looked for themes to Synchronet's web pages. Themes would have to be made specifically for Synchronet's web pages, and I'm not sure if anyone has developed any additional themes.
The time stamp on the QWK Packet is CORRECT with SyncTerm...but NOT
with MTel. I don't know why that is, though.
Those aren't the only two BBS terminal programs out there either. Have you tried Netrunner or Qodem?
Synchronet has a web server.. Why not put the screenshot on your
Synchronet web server and share the link?
In that regard, where can I get additional "themes" for Synchronet's website?? My HTML knowledge is very basic.
I'm not sure, I've never really looked for themes to Synchronet's web pages. Themes would have to be made specifically for Synchronet's web pages, and I'm not sure if anyone has developed any additional themes.
see ftp://time.synchro.net/synchronet.file/SYNWEBMO/
Daryl, I used to have that issue with older programs, till I remembered a trick we used in the old days. In your AUTOEXEC.NT or what ever batch file you use to start some of the older mail programs, put in the following statement modified to your timezone. For me it's set "tz=est5edt". Some of the older programs need this info.
And then there's the nightly build (for Windows): DM>http://syncterm.net/syncterm.zip
Putty doesn't make a very good BBS client. There a lot of alternatives to mT DM>however.
I have some at ftp://time.synchro.net/synchronet.file/SYNWEBMO/
if using the older ui "Nightshade, etc.." you'll probably have to make one, i K>using ecwebvb... you'll still probably have to make one until more people sta K>using it.. really though.. open the texts up one by one, they are not too har K>to customize... bootstrap in ecwebv4 throws me for a loop, but I pretty much K>stay with the same bootstrap theme and customize around it..
If you dig into real good as you would JS, it should'nt be too hard for ya.
It does on the way some of the ANSI screen show up at logon (screens with an .ANS suffix, and not a .MSG suffix (with the CTRL-A codes)).
HUH? something is disconglomegated here..
Also, on some screens in entering some IGMs with L.O.R.D. 4.06, the first screen has "an extra solid line", but it disappears after the user goes to the next screen in the IGM.
Never noticed this issue either..
I have some at ftp://time.synchro.net/synchronet.file/SYNWEBMO/
I'll look at that later this weekend.
I'm up early today only because
I'm expecting a package from FedEx. After it arrives, I'm going back to
bed.
If you dig into real good as you would JS, it should'nt be too hard
Another thing i've noticed with Netrunner is that i've experienced some copy and paste issues. Some characters and/or symbols won't past over correctly. Again, i don't know this is or if anyone else has experienced this ?
I really like Netrunner because for some reason, the colors appear much more vibrant than Syncterms. For me, this makes a more enjoyable bbs session. Anyone else experienced this or know why that is ?
Daryl, I used to have that issue with older programs, till I
remembered a trick we used in the old days. In your AUTOEXEC.NT or
what ever batch file you use to start some of the older mail programs,
put in the following statement modified to your timezone. For me it's
set "tz=est5edt". Some of the older programs need this info.
it would only work if mtelnet searches for that environment variable.
Re: QWK Packet Question
By: MRO to DesotoFireflite on Sat Nov 11 2017 10:02 am
Daryl, I used to have that issue with older programs, till I
remembered a trick we used in the old days. In your AUTOEXEC.NT or
what ever batch file you use to start some of the older mail programs,
put in the following statement modified to your timezone. For me it's
set "tz=est5edt". Some of the older programs need this info.
it would only work if mtelnet searches for that environment variable.
I know, but I figured it may be worth a try, and it's easy to try.
I really like Netrunner because for some reason, the colors appear
much more vibrant than Syncterms. For me, this makes a more enjoyable
bbs session. Anyone else experienced this or know why that is ?
http://eob-bbs.com/tmpsame.png
looks the same
Re: QWK Packet Question
By: MRO to TBird on Sat Nov 11 2017 07:45 pm
I really like Netrunner because for some reason, the colors appear
much more vibrant than Syncterms. For me, this makes a more enjoyable
bbs session. Anyone else experienced this or know why that is ?
http://eob-bbs.com/tmpsame.png
looks the same
Thanks for the reply and screenshot. <scratches head>
Daryl, I used to have that issue with older programs, till I remembered a tri D>we used in the old days. In your AUTOEXEC.NT or what ever batch file you use D>start some of the older mail programs, put in the following statement modifie D>to your timezone. For me it's set "tz=est5edt". Some of the older programs ne D>this info.
I'll look at that later this weekend.
ok (note I didn't make them)
again)?? Personally, I wish the U.S. would decide on one time zone, and leave it that way...just like Arizona and Hawaii do.
C.G.,
Daryl, I used to have that issue with older programs, till I remembered a tri D>we used in the old days. In your AUTOEXEC.NT or what ever batch file you use D>start some of the older mail programs, put in the following statement modifie D>to your timezone. For me it's set "tz=est5edt". Some of the older programs ne D>this info.
I believe I already have that in my AUTOEXEC.NT -- does one have to
change this for each time change (from Standard Time to DST and back again)??
you use start some of the older mail programs, put in the following
statement modifie to your timezone. For me it's set "tz=est5edt". Some of
the older programs ne this info.
I believe I already have that in my AUTOEXEC.NT -- does one have to change this for each time change (from Standard Time to DST and back again)??
I really like Netrunner because for some reason, the colors appear
much more vibrant than Syncterms. For me, this makes a more
enjoyable bbs session. Anyone else experienced this or know why
http://eob-bbs.com/tmpsame.png
looks the same
show me yours. wink wink
I'll look at that later this weekend.
ok (note I didn't make them)
I don't care about that...but, as long as they can work, I'll use
them. My HTML knowledge is very basic.
I have run myself down physically the last few days, and crashed out
all weekend. I have to help my elderly Mom with errands on Tuesday, then there are chances of thunderstorms here Wednesday through Friday...with
a threat of severe weather on Friday. So, the BBS may be down much of
the latter part of the week, due to weather. We are in our "second
severe weather season" now, and sometimes in Arkansas, the fall season
is worse than the spring tornado season.
I believe I already have that in my AUTOEXEC.NT -- does one have to change this for each time change (from Standard Time to DST and back again)??
No.
Rob,
I believe I already have that in my AUTOEXEC.NT -- does one have
to change this for each time change (from Standard Time to DST and
back again)??
No.
If Congress decides to make the whole country go to Standard Time year round (like Arizona and Hawaii are), I probably will have to change it.
But, considering a group of baboons is called a "Congress", that gives
you the perspective of the mental state in Washington, DC. <G>
If Congress decides to make the whole country go to Standard Time year round (like Arizona and Hawaii are), I probably will have to change it.
But, considering a group of baboons is called a "Congress", that gives
you the perspective of the mental state in Washington, DC. <G>
Daryl
I believe I'll hold my full opinion on Congress.. I'm sure everyone else thin K>the same.. but.. I'm trying to be less of a confrontational person.
If Congress decides to make the whole country go to Standard Time year DW>> round (like Arizona and Hawaii are), I probably will have to change it.
That might be one of the few smart things they've ever done. :)
It seems like they give the voters the thumbs up before the election,
then give them the obscene bird finger afterwards. They get more recess time than I ever did in elementary school growing up!!
Tim,
I believe I'll hold my full opinion on Congress.. I'm sure everyone
else thin the same.. but.. I'm trying to be less of a confrontational
person.
It seems like they give the voters the thumbs up before the election, then give them the obscene bird finger afterwards. They get more recess time than I ever did in elementary school growing up!!
Get rid of money, and rewards for being this way, all world issues go away..
and yes folks, now matter how much you've been told that the world cannot ex without money, you were lied to.
I really like Netrunner because for some reason, the colors appear much more vibrant than Syncterms. For me, this makes a more enjoyable bbs session. Anyone else experienced this or know why that is ?
Good points except that there has always been an exchange of 'money' be it a product, service, exchange, or even a chicken or a dozen eggs. In my opinion, money/currency will never disappear and the sky is NOT falling.
Bardering has alway been a decent form of payment back in the stone age
Bardering has alway been a decent form of payment back in the stone
age
*Bartering*
Bardering has alway been a decent form of payment back in the stone age
*Bartering*
But, considering a group of baboons is called a "Congress", that gives you the perspective of the mental state in Washington, DC. <G>
Now THAT makes sense. :-)
It seems like they give the voters the thumbs up before the election, then give them the obscene bird finger afterwards. They get more recess time than I ever did in elementary school growing up!!
What they show you before the election is the beta version..
It seems like they give the voters the thumbs up before the election, then give them the obscene bird finger afterwards. They get more recess time than I ever did in elementary school growing up!!
As do most other politicians, that I fully agree with..
Don't ask me how we would accomplish a feat like this, especially from K>capitalism. have people abandon their one only driving force to exist,
and change to bettering ones self and society as a form of payment.
It by far would be a hard sale. but I do agree that the saying "Money is the K>root to all evil" is as true as it get. it is why every war in history has be K>fought, some say they fight holy wars, no, when it gets down to the true K>reason, money, or power (the same entity) is involved.
and yes folks, now matter how much you've been told that the world cannot exi K>without money, you were lied to.
Bardering has alway been a decent form of payment back in the stone age DW>>*Bartering*
No, bardering, as in "acting like Shakespere." :D
The Rothschild family is one of the elites to blame for that. They say "Money Talks" -- but mine just waves "goodbye". :P
I really like Netrunner because for some reason, the colors appear
much more vibrant than Syncterms. For me, this makes a more enjoyable
I really like Netrunner as well. I use it as my primary telnet client. Syncterm is my backup, and the one I use at work.
Now if i could only find my registered Qmodem floppy! :D
Re: QWK Packet Question
By: TBird to Argon on Mon Nov 20 2017 11:03 am
Now if i could only find my registered Qmodem floppy! :D
If anyone has a registered copy of Telix they'd like to make available, I'd love it. I've been using Telix under DOSBOX, and paid for it back in the day, but my floppy succumbed to bit rot. I have the unregistered version, but hate the delay and the big UNREGISTERED in the status bar.
The Rothschild family is one of the elites to blame for that. They say "Money Talks" -- but mine just waves "goodbye". :P
Agreed fully.. I will have to revisit this post and give it the time deserved K>but cannot at the moment.. but the rothschild family and others were the main K>ones I was speaking of..
They cannot even dress themselves.. someones had done that for them all their K>lives.. how would they fair in the "Real World".
all their lives.. how would they fair in the "Real World".
Makes you wonder if they have to have help in the bathroom!! :P
Makes you wonder if they have to have help in the bathroom!! :P
It would'nt suprise me that someone would think they are above wiping K>themselves..
The doctor said "You have Zachary Disease!!".
The woman asked "What in the world is that??!!".
The doctor replied "Your face looks Zachary like your butt"!! :P
Daryl
The doctor said "You have Zachary Disease!!".
The woman asked "What in the world is that??!!".
The doctor replied "Your face looks Zachary like your butt"!! :P
Daryl
Lol.. I love those cheesy jokes..
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