• photo.scr

    From Internetking@VERT/INETK to All on Tuesday, September 12, 2017 22:39:49
    my anti virus scanner on my server caught photo.scr - possible bitcorn trojan.... those files are false postive? arte they included with distro packages?


    thanks

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  • From Internetking@VERT/INETK to All on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 00:57:29
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Internetking to All on Tue Sep 12 2017 10:39 pm

    my anti virus scanner on my server caught photo.scr - possible bitcorn
    ^bitcoin
    trojan.... those files are false postive? arte they included with distro
    ^are
    packages?

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Internetking on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 05:01:54
    On 2017 Sep 12 22:39:48, you wrote to All:

    my anti virus scanner on my server caught photo.scr - possible bitcorn trojan.... those files are false postive? arte they included with distro packages?

    what files? where are they located? if they are something a user uploaded, they
    may very well be infested...

    info.zip and photo.scr were both added to text/file.can long ago after others reported them being crap... this was around the same time there were discussions of how to prevent guest/anonymous users from uploading...

    )\/(ark

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Internetking on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 10:17:49
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Internetking to All on Tue Sep 12 2017 22:39:49

    my anti virus scanner on my server caught photo.scr - possible bitcorn trojan.... those files are false postive? arte they included with distro packages?

    You need to block uploads to every directy but one, and be sure it's hidden to users. scan any upload before allowing users to download them or even have access.. there are bots (or people) probing ftp server they can and uploading that to any directory they possibly can, if I'm not mistaken it replicates itself also.

    I banned uploads altogether. if someone wants to send me a cool file or something they can send me a message about uit first.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Internetking on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 13:12:05
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Internetking to All on Tue Sep 12 2017 10:39 pm

    my anti virus scanner on my server caught photo.scr - possible bitcorn trojan.... those files are false postive? arte they included with distro packages?

    I'm pretty sure they're viruses that bots are uploading. I usually delete all the photo.scr files that get uploaded to my BBS.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to mark lewis on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 16:38:42
    Re: photo.scr
    By: mark lewis to Internetking on Wed Sep 13 2017 05:01 am

    my anti virus scanner on my server caught photo.scr - possible bitcorn trojan.... those files are false postive? arte they included with distro packages?

    what files? where are they located? if they are something a user uploaded, they
    may very well be infested...

    info.zip and photo.scr were both added to text/file.can long ago after others reported them being crap... this was around the same time there were discussions of how to prevent guest/anonymous users from uploading...


    a lot of people dont overwrite those files because we have custom additions added already.
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Internetking on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 20:47:00
    Internetking wrote to All <=-

    @TZ: 41a4
    my anti virus scanner on my server caught photo.scr - possible bitcorn trojan.... those files are false postive? arte they included with
    distro packages?

    Looks like someone's uploaded a Trojan. Photo.scr is a known Trojan.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 16:00:51
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Nightfox to Internetking on Wed Sep 13 2017 01:12 pm

    my anti virus scanner on my server caught photo.scr - possible
    bitcorn trojan.... those files are false postive? arte they included
    with distro packages?

    I'm pretty sure they're viruses that bots are uploading. I usually delete all the photo.scr files that get uploaded to my BBS.

    I disabled the ability for guests to upload files on my board, and the issue has gone away. I also added "photo.scr" to text/file.can to prevent that file from being uploaded.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Thursday, September 14, 2017 12:07:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Internetking <=-

    I banned uploads altogether. if someone wants to send me a cool file or something they can send me a message about uit first.

    I only allow uploads to the sysop, which only I can access. Has been handy on the odd occasion for people sending me large files.


    ... Cut my pizza into six pieces please. I can't eat eight.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tony Langdon on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 21:47:57
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Thu Sep 14 2017 12:07 pm

    KK4QBN wrote to Internetking <=-

    I banned uploads altogether. if someone wants to send me a cool file or something they can send me a message about uit first.

    I only allow uploads to the sysop, which only I can access. Has been handy on the odd occasion for people sending me large files.


    nobody uses this feature but you can actually upload to a user's box if you set it up.

    http://synchro.net/docs/file_section.html#CreatingSysopDirectory

    http://synchro.net/docs/file_section.html#CreatingUser-to-UserDirectory
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  • From KenDB3@VERT/KD3NET to Tony Langdon on Thursday, September 14, 2017 13:34:41
    KK4QBN wrote to Internetking <=-

    I banned uploads altogether. if someone wants to send me a cool file or something they can send me a message about uit first.

    I only allow uploads to the sysop, which only I can access. Has been handy on the odd occasion for people sending me large files.


    Everything besides my Uploads To Sysop folder has this:
    Upload Requirements !GUEST

    Solved a ton of problems.

    Also, I use Nightfox's Digital Distortion Upload Processor: http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xtrn/DDUploadProcessor/

    This takes care of anyone uploading from the BBS terminal interface, but the photo.scr and info.zip virus files seem to be uploaded always from the FTP interface. For that I run the free version of Panda Antivirus which catches bad stuff going into the Sysop folder. Even if it misses it, its typically not somewhere that other users can run into it (unless a bot manages to create a user profile first and then specifically use it via FTP).

    ~KenDB3

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  • From Internetking@VERT/INETK to mark lewis on Thursday, September 14, 2017 10:39:24
    Re: photo.scr
    By: mark lewis to Internetking on Wed Sep 13 2017 05:01 am

    On 2017 Sep 12 22:39:48, you wrote to All:

    my anti virus scanner on my server caught photo.scr - possible bitcorn trojan.... those files are false postive? arte they included with distro packages?

    what files? where are they located? if they are something a user uploaded, they
    may very well be infested...

    info.zip and photo.scr were both added to text/file.can long ago after others reported them being crap... this was around the same time there were discussions of how to prevent guest/anonymous users from uploading...

    I thought so.... great.. they were caught by my avg anti virus check on my server machine at nfo.

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  • From Sneaky@VERT/CHOICE to Tony Langdon on Friday, September 15, 2017 09:02:00
    Hi Tony Langdon

    Internetking wrote to All <=-

    @TZ: 41a4
    my anti virus scanner on my server caught photo.scr - possible bitcorn trojan.... those files are false postive? arte they included with
    distro packages?

    Looks like someone's uploaded a Trojan. Photo.scr is a known Trojan.

    is this how you put Photo.scr info.zip in text/file.can

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ; Enter filtered (disallowed) file names in this file
    ; Wildcard characters (*, ^, ~) are allowed and ! negates the match
    ; Rejection message file: text/badfile.msg
    photo.scr
    info.zip -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    just don't now if it needs any wildcard or is it ok as it is.

    Thank you
    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs nz

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Sneaky on Thursday, September 14, 2017 18:21:28
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Sneaky to Tony Langdon on Fri Sep 15 2017 09:02 am

    Hi Tony Langdon

    Internetking wrote to All <=-

    @TZ: 41a4
    my anti virus scanner on my server caught photo.scr - possible bitcorn trojan.... those files are false postive? arte they included with distro packages?

    Looks like someone's uploaded a Trojan. Photo.scr is a known Trojan.

    is this how you put Photo.scr info.zip in text/file.can

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ; Enter filtered (disallowed) file names in this file
    ; Wildcard characters (*, ^, ~) are allowed and ! negates the match
    ; Rejection message file: text/badfile.msg
    photo.scr
    info.zip -------------------------------------------------------------------------


    do:
    *.scr
    info.zip
    *.exe
    *.js
    *.html
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  • From Ian Segers@VERT to MRO on Friday, September 15, 2017 16:02:00
    Hi MRO wrote to Sneaky <=-

    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Sneaky to Tony Langdon on Fri Sep 15 2017 09:02 am


    Looks like someone's uploaded a Trojan. Photo.scr is a known Trojan.

    is this how you put Photo.scr info.zip in text/file.can

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ; Enter filtered (disallowed) file names in this file
    ; Wildcard characters (*, ^, ~) are allowed and ! negates the match
    ; Rejection message file: text/badfile.msg
    photo.scr
    info.zip -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    do:
    *.scr
    info.zip
    *.exe
    *.js
    *.html

    Thank you for this info, and done it now.

    Ian S 1st choice Core Sbbs Nz

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Sneaky on Thursday, September 14, 2017 22:50:23
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Sneaky to Tony Langdon on Fri Sep 15 2017 09:02 am

    Hi Tony Langdon

    Internetking wrote to All <=-

    @TZ: 41a4
    my anti virus scanner on my server caught photo.scr - possible bitcorn trojan.... those files are false postive? arte they included with distro packages?

    Looks like someone's uploaded a Trojan. Photo.scr is a known Trojan.

    is this how you put Photo.scr info.zip in text/file.can

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ; Enter filtered (disallowed) file names in this file
    ; Wildcard characters (*, ^, ~) are allowed and ! negates the match
    ; Rejection message file: text/badfile.msg
    photo.scr
    info.zip ------------------------------------------------------------------------- just don't now if it needs any wildcard or is it ok as it is.

    Looks good to me.

    digital man

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  • From Internetking@VERT/INETK to MRO on Friday, September 15, 2017 01:30:12
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: MRO to Sneaky on Thu Sep 14 2017 06:21 pm

    do:
    *.scr
    info.zip
    *.exe
    *.js
    *.html

    why *.exe... same .exe are safe like setup files to install freeware or other software?

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Sneaky on Friday, September 15, 2017 06:35:44
    On 2017 Sep 15 09:02:00, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

    Looks like someone's uploaded a Trojan. Photo.scr is a known Trojan.

    is this how you put Photo.scr info.zip in text/file.can

    yes, that's fine... make sure you also prevent anonymous and guest from uploading...

    )\/(ark

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Internetking on Friday, September 15, 2017 07:16:46
    On 2017 Sep 15 01:30:12, you wrote to MRO:

    do:
    *.scr
    info.zip
    *.exe
    *.js
    *.html

    why *.exe... same .exe are safe like setup files to install freeware or other software?

    yeah, i'll send you some random setup.exe for you to run... i'll tell you that it is this fantastic new ANSI viewer door that runs on all OSes and BBSes... you run it and get an ANSI door that you can use so you're happy... what you don't know is that it also installed a hidden bitcoin miner, a rootkit and an open proxy on your machine... now guess what i can do...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Ian Segers@VERT to Digital Man on Friday, September 15, 2017 22:12:00
    Hi Digital

    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Sneaky to Tony Langdon on Fri Sep 15 2017 09:02 am


    ; Enter filtered (disallowed) file names in this file
    ; Wildcard characters (*, ^, ~) are allowed and ! negates the match
    ; Rejection message file: text/badfile.msg
    photo.scr
    info.zip ------------------------------------------------------------------------- just don't now if it needs any wildcard or is it ok as it is.

    Looks good to me.


    Okay cool, Thank you

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to mark lewis on Friday, September 15, 2017 11:42:00
    Re: photo.scr
    By: mark lewis to Internetking on Fri Sep 15 2017 07:16:46

    yeah, i'll send you some random setup.exe for you to run... i'll tell you that it is this fantastic new ANSI viewer door that runs on all OSes and BBSes... you run it and get an ANSI door that you can use so you're happy... what you don't know is that it also installed a hidden bitcoin miner, a rootkit and an open proxy on your machine... now guess what i can do...

    Just as easy to zip it up and call it a new BBS door or some other cool application you would want someone who keeps a constant 24/7 connections.. thats one reason I just completely decided to halt uploads all together.. that photo.scr replicates itself also.. it's really a mess if something activates it before virus scanner gets to it.. my old xp machine could'nt keep up with running the whole load of the BBS and a resident scanner too, so I completely done away with uploads, then the BBS outgrew the old XP machine. It got to where it would take 5-10 seconds to pull up a message on the website (that was the main culprit of processing usage). it does so much better on my new configuration.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to mark lewis on Friday, September 15, 2017 09:27:41
    Re: photo.scr
    By: mark lewis to Internetking on Fri Sep 15 2017 07:16 am

    why *.exe... same .exe are safe like setup files to install freeware
    or other software?

    yeah, i'll send you some random setup.exe for you to run... i'll tell you that it is this fantastic new ANSI viewer door that runs on all OSes and

    Some things are distributed as just an .exe setup file though.. If you're paranoid about that, then you might as well ban all uploading, because an .exe could be packaged into a .zip file etc. and it's still the same .exe. Rather than ban all .exe files, I think a better solution would be to have an upload processor that scans uploads with a virus scanner. I know virus scanners aren't totally perfect, but it would be a way to filter out potentially bad uploads.

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to MARK LEWIS on Friday, September 15, 2017 12:11:00
    Mark,

    yes, that's fine... make sure you also prevent anonymous and guest from ML>uploading...

    I've got that set...but in SCFG, if I have the Upload Requirements in
    all areas to LEVEL 99 (except for Uploads to Sysop and User To User
    Transfers, which set set to LEVEL 50 -- I zapped the Blind Uploads
    area), if the caller (Level 50 is verified user, Level 99 is Sysop)
    chooses Upload, will that automatically direct it to the Sysop files
    area??

    I do have info.zip and photo.scr in the "trash" for the filenames, to
    prevent those from being uploaded.

    Daryl

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Friday, September 15, 2017 19:45:31
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Nightfox to mark lewis on Fri Sep 15 2017 09:27 am

    why *.exe... same .exe are safe like setup files to install freeware
    or other software?

    yeah, i'll send you some random setup.exe for you to run... i'll tell you that it is this fantastic new ANSI viewer door that runs on all OSes and

    Some things are distributed as just an .exe setup file though.. If you're paranoid about that, then you might as well ban all uploading, because an .exe could be packaged into a .zip file etc. and it's still the same .exe.


    should get it from a reputable source and not from joe blow logging in from fuckyou, anystate uploading it to your uploads dir

    i would recommend disabling ANY uploads from users.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Friday, September 15, 2017 19:54:11
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Daryl Stout to MARK LEWIS on Fri Sep 15 2017 12:11 pm

    Mark,

    yes, that's fine... make sure you also prevent anonymous and guest from ML>uploading...

    I've got that set...but in SCFG, if I have the Upload Requirements in
    all areas to LEVEL 99 (except for Uploads to Sysop and User To User Transfers, which set set to LEVEL 50 -- I zapped the Blind Uploads
    area), if the caller (Level 50 is verified user, Level 99 is Sysop)
    chooses Upload, will that automatically direct it to the Sysop files
    area??


    no it wont. only if they are in that file area

    Bbut you can do something like this and change the string
    to your directory name

    CMDKEY U
    setStr "uploads"
    FILE_SET_AREA
    file_upload
    END_CMD
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Daryl Stout on Friday, September 15, 2017 23:06:39
    Re: photo.scr
    By: MRO to Daryl Stout on Fri Sep 15 2017 07:54 pm

    Re: photo.scr
    By: Daryl Stout to MARK LEWIS on Fri Sep 15 2017 12:11 pm

    Mark,

    yes, that's fine... make sure you also prevent anonymous and guest from ML>uploading...

    I've got that set...but in SCFG, if I have the Upload Requirements in all areas to LEVEL 99 (except for Uploads to Sysop and User To User Transfers, which set set to LEVEL 50 -- I zapped the Blind Uploads
    area), if the caller (Level 50 is verified user, Level 99 is Sysop) chooses Upload, will that automatically direct it to the Sysop files area??


    no it wont. only if they are in that file area

    Bbut you can do something like this and change the string
    to your directory name

    CMDKEY U
    setStr "uploads"
    FILE_SET_AREA
    file_upload
    END_CMD

    No, you don't need to do that. If you have an "uploads" area, that'll be the default destination for uploads if the user doesn't have upload access to their "current" area. This is documented here: http://synchro.net/docs/file_section.html#CreatingDefaultUploadDirectory

    digital man

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  • From Internetking@VERT/INETK to KenDB3 on Saturday, September 16, 2017 04:01:20
    On Thu, 14 Sep 2017, KenDB3 wrote:


    KK4QBN wrote to Internetking <=-

    I banned uploads altogether. if someone wants to send me a cool file or
    something they can send me a message about uit first.

    I only allow uploads to the sysop, which only I can access. Has been handy on the odd occasion for people sending me large files.


    Everything besides my Uploads To Sysop folder has this:
    Upload Requirements !GUEST

    Solved a ton of problems.


    I tried !guest and it still let me upload to any dir when
    I tested it in the guest account.

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Internetking on Saturday, September 16, 2017 09:36:48
    On 2017 Sep 16 04:01:20, you wrote to KenDB3:

    Everything besides my Uploads To Sysop folder has this:
    Upload Requirements !GUEST

    Solved a ton of problems.

    I tried !guest and it still let me upload to any dir when
    I tested it in the guest account.

    the flag is !GUEST... case is important...

    )\/(ark

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Saturday, September 16, 2017 08:44:53
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Digital Man to Daryl Stout on Fri Sep 15 2017 11:06 pm

    Bbut you can do something like this and change the string
    to your directory name

    CMDKEY U
    setStr "uploads"
    FILE_SET_AREA
    file_upload
    END_CMD

    No, you don't need to do that. If you have an "uploads" area, that'll be the default destination for uploads if the user doesn't have upload access to their "current" area. This is documented here: http://synchro.net/docs/file_section.html#CreatingDefaultUploadDirectory


    oh, i didnt know that. i knew the access would prevent someone to uploading to dirs they didnt have access to but assumed you had to change to the upload area to upload.
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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Internetking on Saturday, September 16, 2017 13:14:06
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Internetking to KenDB3 on Sat Sep 16 2017 04:01:20

    I tried !guest and it still let me upload to any dir when
    I tested it in the guest account.

    REST NOT G

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Internetking on Saturday, September 16, 2017 13:04:21
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Internetking to KenDB3 on Sat Sep 16 2017 04:01 am

    On Thu, 14 Sep 2017, KenDB3 wrote:


    KK4QBN wrote to Internetking <=-

    I banned uploads altogether. if someone wants to send me a cool file or
    something they can send me a message about uit first.

    I only allow uploads to the sysop, which only I can access. Has been handy on the odd occasion for people sending me large files.


    Everything besides my Uploads To Sysop folder has this:
    Upload Requirements !GUEST

    Solved a ton of problems.


    I tried !guest and it still let me upload to any dir when
    I tested it in the guest account.

    Are you sure it was actually uploading to "any dir" and not the "uploads" directory?

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to KK4QBN on Saturday, September 16, 2017 13:07:58
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: KK4QBN to Internetking on Sat Sep 16 2017 01:14 pm

    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Internetking to KenDB3 on Sat Sep 16 2017 04:01:20

    I tried !guest and it still let me upload to any dir when
    I tested it in the guest account.

    REST NOT G

    There is an ARS "GUEST" keyword, which should work identically to "REST G". So "!GUEST" should work identically to "REST NOT G" or "NOT REST G".

    digital man

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Digital Man on Saturday, September 16, 2017 17:01:41
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Digital Man to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 2017 13:07:58

    REST NOT G

    There is an ARS "GUEST" keyword, which should work identically to "REST G". So "!GUEST" should work identically to "REST NOT G" or "NOT REST G".

    I beieve i've actually seen photo,scr replicate also.. all I used to have left was one upload directory, and found that file in multiple directorys after being away from the system a few days.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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  • From Ian Segers@VERT to mark lewis on Saturday, September 16, 2017 09:44:00
    Hi Mark


    On 2017 Sep 15 09:02:00, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

    Looks like someone's uploaded a Trojan. Photo.scr is a known Trojan.

    is this how you put Photo.scr info.zip in text/file.can

    yes, that's fine...

    Okay cool, thank you

    make sure you also prevent anonymous and guest from
    uploading...

    I have put the sysop settings that use for sysop only area in sfg uploading/uploading
    setting plus other file areas is there any thing else I should do.

    Thank you for this.

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs NZ

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to MRO on Saturday, September 16, 2017 08:24:00
    MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    nobody uses this feature but you can actually upload to a user's box if you set it up.

    http://synchro.net/docs/file_section.html#CreatingSysopDirectory

    http://synchro.net/docs/file_section.html#CreatingUser-to-UserDirectory

    Might be a useful alternative for uploads to the sysop. Not so sure I want to enable user to user file transfers.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KenDB3 on Saturday, September 16, 2017 08:38:00
    KenDB3 wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Everything besides my Uploads To Sysop folder has this:
    Upload Requirements !GUEST

    Solved a ton of problems.

    Yep, that works well. :)

    Also, I use Nightfox's Digital Distortion Upload Processor: http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xtrn/DDUploadProcessor/

    This takes care of anyone uploading from the BBS terminal interface,
    but the photo.scr and info.zip virus files seem to be uploaded always
    from the FTP interface. For that I run the free version of Panda
    Antivirus which catches bad stuff going into the Sysop folder. Even if
    it misses it, its typically not somewhere that other users can run into
    it (unless a bot manages to create a user profile first and then specifically use it via FTP).

    I'd probably have to run something like ClamAV, being on Linux, if I wanted to scan for viruses. Not likely to encounter anything that would harm my system, but it would be to protect the users. However, files are not a big part of my system, currently all of my files come in via file echoes anyway.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to MRO on Sunday, September 17, 2017 08:17:00
    MRO wrote to Sneaky <=-

    do:
    *.scr
    info.zip
    *.exe
    *.js
    *.html

    Looks like a good starting point.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Internetking on Sunday, September 17, 2017 08:19:00
    Internetking wrote to MRO <=-

    @TZ: 41a4
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: MRO to Sneaky on Thu Sep 14 2017 06:21 pm

    do:
    *.scr
    info.zip
    *.exe
    *.js
    *.html

    why *.exe... same .exe are safe like setup files to install freeware or other software?

    True, though legit distributors can simply zip up the .exe for upload.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to mark lewis on Sunday, September 17, 2017 08:19:00
    mark lewis wrote to Sneaky <=-

    yes, that's fine... make sure you also prevent anonymous and guest from uploading...

    That's the most important thing.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to mark lewis on Sunday, September 17, 2017 08:22:00
    mark lewis wrote to Internetking <=-

    yeah, i'll send you some random setup.exe for you to run... i'll tell
    you that it is this fantastic new ANSI viewer door that runs on all
    OSes and BBSes... you run it and get an ANSI door that you can use so you're happy... what you don't know is that it also installed a hidden bitcoin miner, a rootkit and an open proxy on your machine... now guess what i can do...

    That can be true of any uploaded file, any file from an untrusted source could be a Trojan, whether it's packaged as a .exe, .zip or whatever. It boils down to trust. However, I would certainly can names like "setup.exe" as a minimum, because these are ambiguous at best.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Sunday, September 17, 2017 08:27:00
    KK4QBN wrote to mark lewis <=-

    Just as easy to zip it up and call it a new BBS door or some other cool application you would want someone who keeps a constant 24/7
    connections.. thats one reason I just completely decided to halt
    uploads all together.. that photo.scr replicates itself also.. it's
    really a mess if something activates it before virus scanner gets to
    it.. my old xp machine could'nt keep up with running the whole load of
    the BBS and a resident scanner too, so I completely done away with uploads, then the BBS outgrew the old XP machine. It got to where it
    would take 5-10 seconds to pull up a message on the website (that was
    the main culprit of processing usage). it does so much better on my new configuration.

    Uploads to the sysop is the middle ground solution. You can always move legit files from there to wherever, if someone uploads something useful to other users. As for scanning, I have no concerns about the BBS (are there any Linux/ARM viruses in the wild?), but having a virus scanner would be useful for protecting users, if I was to handle a large number of files. Will have to see if ClamAV or similar is available for the Pi. :)

    Doing away with uploads is a reasonable policy these days, given that the Internet is a much bigger file repository than our BBSs could ever be. Just worth keeping around a few harder to get files. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Sunday, September 17, 2017 08:29:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to MARK LEWIS <=-

    @TZ: 412c
    Mark,

    yes, that's fine... make sure you also prevent anonymous and guest from
    uploading...

    I've got that set...but in SCFG, if I have the Upload Requirements in all areas to LEVEL 99 (except for Uploads to Sysop and User To User Transfers, which set set to LEVEL 50 -- I zapped the Blind Uploads
    area), if the caller (Level 50 is verified user, Level 99 is Sysop) chooses Upload, will that automatically direct it to the Sysop files area??

    I don't have user to user. People who want to do that nowadays can use services like wetransfer.com for free (for files up to 2GB)..


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Saturday, September 16, 2017 21:23:00
    Tim,

    Just as easy to zip it up and call it a new BBS door or some other cool K>application you would want someone who keeps a constant 24/7 connections..

    Sad, but true.

    thats one reason I just completely decided to halt uploads all together.. tha K>photo.scr replicates itself also.. it's really a mess if something activates

    I use the IOBit Malware Fighter, and have never required uploads. But,
    I might consider suspending them, except for "users I can trust". I'm
    not sure how to do the logistics for that, unless possibly with a
    special "account flag"...like I have with the Ham Radio items.

    Daryl

    ---
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Saturday, September 16, 2017 21:25:00
    processor that scans uploads with a virus scanner. I know virus scanners N>aren't totally perfect, but it would be a way to filter out potentially bad N>uploads.

    I use the IObit Malware Fighter now...and it's regularly updated.
    Years ago, I had used McAfee's SCAN...then F-Prot...among others. But, I
    don't think there's a "command line scanner" anymore.

    Daryl
    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ 12 Steps Chocolate Diet: 12 or less steps from chocolate.
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DIGITAL MAN on Saturday, September 16, 2017 21:28:00
    Rob,

    http://synchro.net/docs/file_section.html#CreatingDefaultUploadDirectory

    Finally found it...mis-typed the URL (blush!).

    I've set the upload requirements to all areas to LEVEL 99 (Sysop). The
    only exception is to upload to Sysop and user to user transfer -- those
    are at LEVEL 50 (verified user).

    Daryl

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Daryl Stout on Sunday, September 17, 2017 00:49:16
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Daryl Stout to DIGITAL MAN on Sat Sep 16 2017 09:28 pm

    Rob,

    http://synchro.net/docs/file_section.html#CreatingDefaultUploadDirectory

    Finally found it...mis-typed the URL (blush!).

    I've set the upload requirements to all areas to LEVEL 99 (Sysop). The only exception is to upload to Sysop and user to user transfer -- those
    are at LEVEL 50 (verified user).

    Okay. But what about the "uploads" directory?

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #50:
    Sysop = System Operator
    Norco, CA WX: 62.3øF, 89.0% humidity, 0 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Sunday, September 17, 2017 13:02:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Internetking <=-

    REST NOT G

    That one should work. :)


    ... Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt.
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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Sunday, September 17, 2017 04:15:44
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Sun Sep 17 2017 08:27:00

    Uploads to the sysop is the middle ground solution. You can always move legit files from there to wherever, if someone uploads something useful to other users. As for scanning, I have no concerns about the BBS (are there any Linux/ARM viruses in the wild?), but having a virus scanner would be useful for protecting users, if I was to handle a large number of files. Will have to see if ClamAV or similar is available for the Pi. :)

    I do have an uploads to sysop feature back now that most of my services are on my linux machine.. so that maybe one day some inspiring software author may upload a brand new door that would rival the likes of BRE, LORD, and some of the other favorites.. would be nice.

    Doing away with uploads is a reasonable policy these days, given that the Internet is a much bigger file repository than our BBSs could ever be. Just worth keeping around a few harder to get files. :)

    So very true..

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Sunday, September 17, 2017 05:24:10
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 2017 21:23:00

    thats one reason I just completely decided to halt uploads all
    together.. tha photo.scr replicates itself also.. it's really a mess
    if something activates

    I use the IOBit Malware Fighter, and have never required uploads. But,
    I might consider suspending them, except for "users I can trust". I'm
    not sure how to do the logistics for that, unless possibly with a
    special "account flag"...like I have with the Ham Radio items.

    in your file directory, fo to the first directory under each group, and it will have an area to set ARS for uploads, I set mine to 90 and greater then clone options of first board to save a lot of time.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Sunday, September 17, 2017 05:32:04
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Sat Sep 16 2017 21:25:00

    I use the IObit Malware Fighter now...and it's regularly updated.
    Years ago, I had used McAfee's SCAN...then F-Prot...among others. But, I don't think there's a "command line scanner" anymore.

    One of the "Free" avs does have a commandline scanners, but it uses as much or more processing power than the resident scanners do.. I think wht it does is just fires up the resident scanner database until finished scanning then shuts it back down.. I tried it on the old XP machine and it, and every other newer virus scanner just slows it to a crawl.. it'll run the scanners, but thats all it'll run.. it's getting pitiful that the AV tools are getting so much overhead.. (and everything else for that matter) take SBBS, it is a VERY powerful communications package, not just for its time.. It still is today, compared to many different phpBB's and other social web type products, and looks at its very small overhead and light footprint for all the stuff that it offers compared to all the others.

    I've wondered if a lot of virus and trojans are put out by the very people who sell the antivirus software.

    I know most of the ones back in the day were mainly created by bored kids with nothing to do so they just do it for the heck of it.. now there are a lot more of them done for financial reasons.. but then there are others still out there that really serve no purpose but to just bea malicious.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Sunday, September 17, 2017 06:05:07
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Sun Sep 17 2017 13:02:00

    ... Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt.

    And with the "Dumbing down" of our young with "Smart devices" and common core math, they will not know how to create or maintain ANY kind of budget..

    Trust me.. the powers that be right now know how to CREATE a budget (defecit) that pads their pockets.. We really need to get these dinosaurs out of our government..

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Sunday, September 17, 2017 21:46:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I do have an uploads to sysop feature back now that most of my services are on my linux machine.. so that maybe one day some inspiring software author may upload a brand new door that would rival the likes of BRE, LORD, and some of the other favorites.. would be nice.

    Yes, you never know, at least you're able to accept uploads if you have uploads to the sysop available. :-)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Sunday, September 17, 2017 21:49:00
    --- SBBSecho 2.27-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS - freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From mark lewis@VERT to KK4QBN on Sunday, September 17, 2017 08:09:36
    On 2017 Sep 16 17:01:40, you wrote to Digital Man:

    I beieve i've actually seen photo,scr replicate also.. all I used to
    have left was one upload directory, and found that file in multiple directorys after being away from the system a few days.

    it cannot replicate just sitting there... self-replication requires that it is executed and if you had done that, then you would have had an infestation to clean up... more likely is that someone found another way to upload it to those
    other areas... your logs should be able to tell you more...

    )\/(ark

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Sunday, September 17, 2017 08:54:22
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Sun Sep 17 2017 21:49:00

    that was very informative :)

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to mark lewis on Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:02:00
    Re: photo.scr
    By: mark lewis to KK4QBN on Sun Sep 17 2017 08:09:36

    I beieve i've actually seen photo,scr replicate also.. all I used to
    have left was one upload directory, and found that file in multiple
    directorys after being away from the system a few days.

    it cannot replicate just sitting there... self-replication requires that it is executed and if you had done that, then you would have had an infestation to clean up... more likely is that someone found another way to upload it to those other areas... your logs should be able to tell you more...

    well.. I believe when the system was updating the filelist (addfiles) it replicated.. there would be no other possible way for it to move from the only upload directory I had to the root directory of the drive my BBS was on.. and I did'nt execute this file in any manners whatsoever..

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Monday, September 18, 2017 08:00:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    that was very informative :)

    Hahaha, the message monster strikes again. ;)


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to TONY LANGDON on Sunday, September 17, 2017 22:33:00
    Tony,

    I don't have user to user. People who want to do that nowadays can use TL>services like wetransfer.com for free (for files up to 2GB)..

    With all the security issues, I may end up removing that. Do you still
    have to have the separate category to "Upload To Sysop"?? Or do all new
    files automatically go to the Sysop area??

    Also, I was getting slammed on SSH by improper logons, so I changed
    the port. Verified Users In Good Standing who want to know what it is
    will have to Email Feedback To Sysop to get that info...I'm not going to
    post it in the echo.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DIGITAL MAN on Sunday, September 17, 2017 22:34:00
    Rob,

    Okay. But what about the "uploads" directory?

    I gathered that has to exist...but does that still need to show up on
    the menu for users to upload to?? Or is it automatic??

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Sunday, September 17, 2017 22:35:00
    Tim,

    I've wondered if a lot of virus and trojans are put out by the very people wh K>sell the antivirus software.

    I have wondered about that myself. But, there are so many anti-virus programs...and most will fight with another one, if you have more than
    one on your system...it thinks the other one is a virus as well!!

    Daryl

    ---
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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Monday, September 18, 2017 04:05:40
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Sun Sep 17 2017 22:35:00

    I've wondered if a lot of virus and trojans are put out by the very
    people wh sell the antivirus software.

    I have wondered about that myself. But, there are so many anti-virus programs...and most will fight with another one, if you have more than
    one on your system...it thinks the other one is a virus as well!!

    Yeah, I believe because they have to be intergrated into your system so deeply, like scanning and making changes to your registry, etc.. I could see another AV picking one up as a virus... It's the chicken or egg question.. malware, etc did'nt use to seem as bad until there came a big market for antivirus software.. now there are always new variations and new malware coming out and right behind it, if not before anyone even knows of it the AV industry already has the solution for it, of course for a price..

    I do know there are people out there who do malicious things either for the fun of it, or for profit (miners and randsomeware) but the av business is a big money business.. you don't see that much av stuff floating arund for linux, not do you see much malware, and it is OPEN SOURCE. so it makes one think..

    and for someone to buy AV products for an android device is just stupid.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Monday, September 18, 2017 19:58:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    With all the security issues, I may end up removing that. Do you
    still have to have the separate category to "Upload To Sysop"?? Or do
    all new files automatically go to the Sysop area??

    I just created a file area that anyone can upload to, but only those with sysop access can read. :)

    Also, I was getting slammed on SSH by improper logons, so I changed
    the port. Verified Users In Good Standing who want to know what it is
    will have to Email Feedback To Sysop to get that info...I'm not going
    to post it in the echo.

    My SSH is on an odd port anyway, sshd got in first. ;)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Monday, September 18, 2017 20:17:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    Yeah, I believe because they have to be intergrated into your system so deeply, like scanning and making changes to your registry, etc.. I
    could see another AV picking one up as a virus... It's the chicken or

    There is one possible exception - Windows Defender. Because Microsoft created both it and the OS (Windows), it's possible for them to makle them play nicely, and not have to resort to hacking Windows to work properly.


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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Monday, September 18, 2017 08:24:43
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 2017 20:17:00

    There is one possible exception - Windows Defender. Because Microsoft created both it and the OS (Windows), it's possible for them to makle them play nicely, and not have to resort to hacking Windows to work properly.

    Windows 10 with defender by far is the best windows on my picklist if I need windows for a project.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Daryl Stout on Monday, September 18, 2017 09:27:34
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Sat Sep 16 2017 09:25 pm

    I use the IObit Malware Fighter now...and it's regularly updated.
    Years ago, I had used McAfee's SCAN...then F-Prot...among others. But, I don't think there's a "command line scanner" anymore.

    Yes, actually, there are still command-line scanners. I'm currently using ClamAV on my BBS machine because it includes a command-line virus scanner. I used to use AVG on my BBS machine, although I think I switched because AVG removed the command-line scanner. I wouldn't be surprised if other anti-virus programs have a command-line scanner though. I'd think a command-line scanner would still be a reasonably in-demand feature, so I doubt many would remove it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Tony Langdon on Monday, September 18, 2017 09:45:23
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 2017 08:17 pm

    Yeah, I believe because they have to be intergrated into your system
    so deeply, like scanning and making changes to your registry, etc..
    I could see another AV picking one up as a virus... It's the chicken
    or

    There is one possible exception - Windows Defender. Because Microsoft created both it and the OS (Windows), it's possible for them to makle them play nicely, and not have to resort to hacking Windows to work properly.

    The other side of that coin is that Windows has undocumented features (Microsoft probably did that deliberately) so that 3rd-party software developers sometimes have a hard time developing certain types of software for Windows. Microsoft of course knows those undocumented features, so they can more easily make software that's integrated into Windows.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Daryl Stout on Monday, September 18, 2017 13:09:43
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Daryl Stout to DIGITAL MAN on Sun Sep 17 2017 10:34 pm

    Rob,

    Okay. But what about the "uploads" directory?

    I gathered that has to exist...but does that still need to show up on
    the menu for users to upload to??

    Correct, but you cannot set the "upload requirements" for the directory beyond their level or they won't be able to upload there.

    Or is it automatic??

    It is, if you have it setup correctly.


    digital man

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, September 18, 2017 15:56:50
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Nightfox to Daryl Stout on Mon Sep 18 2017 09:27 am

    Years ago, I had used McAfee's SCAN...then F-Prot...among others. But, I don't think there's a "command line scanner" anymore.

    Yes, actually, there are still command-line scanners. I'm currently using ClamAV on my BBS machine because it includes a command-line virus scanner.
    I used to use AVG on my BBS machine, although I think I switched because AVG removed the command-line scanner. I wouldn't be surprised if other anti-virus programs have a command-line scanner though. I'd think a


    all you need is a resident one that deletes the files and is silent and yhou'll be good.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Monday, September 18, 2017 14:57:58
    Re: photo.scr
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Sep 18 2017 03:56 pm

    surprised if other anti-virus programs have a command-line scanner
    though. I'd think a

    all you need is a resident one that deletes the files and is silent and yhou'll be good.

    I think you've mentioned that before. I didn't think that would remove it from Synchronet's file database though (it would still list the file but it would report it as missing), but I think you said the anti-virus would delete the file before Synchronet adds it to its database?

    I suppose that would work, but it feels like it's not the proper solution. Synchronet supports the use of an upload scanner, which would directly tell Synchronet whether a file passed or failed scanning.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, September 18, 2017 18:20:28
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Sep 18 2017 02:57 pm


    surprised if other anti-virus programs have a command-line scanner
    though. I'd think a

    all you need is a resident one that deletes the files and is silent and yhou'll be good.

    I think you've mentioned that before. I didn't think that would remove it from Synchronet's file database though (it would still list the file but it would report it as missing), but I think you said the anti-virus would delete the file before Synchronet adds it to its database?


    it would delete the offending file inside the archive. the file archive would still be in the file area.

    you need a command line scanner that does an error lvl for the bbs to catch it and shitcan the whole thing. depends on what your priorities are. most of us dont get too many users uploads nor want them.

    i know mcafee's command line scanner was using updated definitions for many years. last time i looked it was 2006, though. that could be defunct.
    you might need a license to the scan.exe defs
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Monday, September 18, 2017 18:59:00
    Tim,

    and for someone to buy AV products for an android device is just stupid.

    I have the Advanced System Care app on my Android...but I'm very
    careful on what sites I visit. On the main BBS desktop, and the laptop computer, I use the IObit Malware Fighter. I've been able to get deals
    with several of their products...with one key for 3 computers, for a
    year.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Monday, September 18, 2017 19:01:00
    Yes, actually, there are still command-line scanners. I'm currently using N>ClamAV on my BBS machine because it includes a command-line virus scanner. I N>used to use AVG on my BBS machine, although I think I switched because AVG N>removed the command-line scanner. I wouldn't be surprised if other anti-viru N>programs have a command-line scanner though. I'd think a command-line scanne N>would still be a reasonably in-demand feature, so I doubt many would remove i

    My main virus scanner is the IObit Malware Fighter. I understand that
    Sophos has a virus scanner and cleaner that will work WITH any other
    virus scanners on your system.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DIGITAL MAN on Monday, September 18, 2017 19:05:00
    Rob,

    Correct, but you cannot set the "upload requirements" for the directory beyo DM>their level or they won't be able to upload there.

    I have it for Verified Users In Good Standing (Level 50 and above).
    The Guest and Unverified Users are at Level 40, with New Users at Level
    30. And, I don't allow uploads for them.

    Or is it automatic??

    It is, if you have it setup correctly.

    Details, details. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Monday, September 18, 2017 19:17:00
    The other side of that coin is that Windows has undocumented features N>(Microsoft probably did that deliberately) so that 3rd-party software N>developers sometimes have a hard time developing certain types of software fo N>Windows. Microsoft of course knows those undocumented features, so they can N>more easily make software that's integrated into Windows.

    Undocumented features?? I though those were software bugs. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From KenDB3@VERT/KD3NET to Tony Langdon on Monday, September 18, 2017 23:49:07
    KenDB3 wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Everything besides my Uploads To Sysop folder has this:
    Upload Requirements !GUEST

    Solved a ton of problems.

    Yep, that works well. :)

    Also, I use Nightfox's Digital Distortion Upload Processor: http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xtrn/DDUploadProcessor/

    This takes care of anyone uploading from the BBS terminal interface, but the photo.scr and info.zip virus files seem to be uploaded always from the FTP interface. For that I run the free version of Panda Antivirus which catches bad stuff going into the Sysop folder. Even if it misses it, its typically not somewhere that other users can run into it (unless a bot manages to create a user profile first and then specifically use it via FTP).

    I'd probably have to run something like ClamAV, being on Linux, if I wanted to scan for viruses. Not likely to encounter anything that would harm my system, but it would be to protect the users. However, files are not a big part of my system, currently all of my files come in via file echoes anyway.


    Actually, I use ClamAV with the Upload Processor, and have been for a while. It works rather well.

    For anyone else reading this thread who is on Win32/Win64, they have Windows versions available here:
    http://www.clamav.net/downloads#otherversions

    ~KenDB3

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  • From KenDB3@VERT/KD3NET to Internetking on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 00:00:14
    On Thu, 14 Sep 2017, KenDB3 wrote:


    KK4QBN wrote to Internetking <=-

    I banned uploads altogether. if someone wants to send me a cool file or
    something they can send me a message about uit first.

    I only allow uploads to the sysop, which only I can access. Has been handy on the odd occasion for people sending me large files.


    Everything besides my Uploads To Sysop folder has this:
    Upload Requirements !GUEST

    Solved a ton of problems.


    I tried !guest and it still let me upload to any dir when
    I tested it in the guest account.

    I tried from the FTP interface with that restriction, and I get the following:

    Command: CWD /main/UPLOADS
    Response: 250 CWD command successful.
    Command: PWD
    Response: 257 "/main/UPLOADS" is current directory.
    Command: TYPE A
    Response: 200 All files sent in BINARY mode.
    Command: PASV
    Response: 227 Entering Passive Mode (68,15,38,238,4,1)
    Command: STOR tinyriiiick.html
    Response: 553 Insufficient access.
    Error: Critical file transfer error

    Via the Terminal Interface I just get this:

    "You can't upload here."

    I don't think I have anything else stopping the upload, you might want to check that the setting is under:
    Launch SCFG
    File Areas
    Main File Library (or whatever you have configured)
    File Directories
    Pick a folder...

    Example of one of mine:
    Long Name BBS Related
    Short Name BBS Related
    Internal Code BBS
    Access Requirements
    Upload Requirements !GUEST
    Download Requirements
    Operator Requirements
    Exemption Requirements
    Transfer File Path bbs\
    Maximum Number of Files 500
    Purge by Age Disabled
    Credit on Upload 100%
    Credit on Download 90%
    Toggle Options...
    Advanced Options...

    I'm not sure what else could be mucking it up.

    ~KenDB3

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:27:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Windows 10 with defender by far is the best windows on my picklist if I need windows for a project.

    I like Windows 7, and I use the Windows 7 version of Defender (you have to download Microsoft Security Essentials, from memory, to get it) on my desktop. Haven't spent much time with 10, but the limited experience I've had has been very positive.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:32:00
    Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    The other side of that coin is that Windows has undocumented features (Microsoft probably did that deliberately) so that 3rd-party software developers sometimes have a hard time developing certain types of
    software for Windows. Microsoft of course knows those undocumented features, so they can more easily make software that's integrated into Windows.

    Either way, Microsoft has the advantage, since they know their own software better than anyone else. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KenDB3 on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 21:34:00
    KenDB3 wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Actually, I use ClamAV with the Upload Processor, and have been for a while. It works rather well.

    Thought it would.

    For anyone else reading this thread who is on Win32/Win64, they have Windows versions available here: http://www.clamav.net/downloads#otherversions

    Yeah I think I have used it on Win32 before.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Tony Langdon on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 16:25:04
    Re: Re: photo.scr
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Tue Sep 19 2017 11:32 am

    The other side of that coin is that Windows has undocumented
    features (Microsoft probably did that deliberately) so that
    3rd-party software developers sometimes have a hard time developing

    Either way, Microsoft has the advantage, since they know their own software better than anyone else. :)

    Even if it's an unfair advantage. :)

    Nightfox

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 16:18:00
    Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Either way, Microsoft has the advantage, since they know their own software better than anyone else. :)

    Even if it's an unfair advantage. :)

    Either way, it's their advantage. :)


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  • From mark lewis@VERT to KK4QBN on Thursday, September 21, 2017 13:40:22
    On 2017 Sep 17 11:02:00, you wrote to me:

    I beieve i've actually seen photo,scr replicate also.. all I used to
    have left was one upload directory, and found that file in multiple
    directorys after being away from the system a few days.

    it cannot replicate just sitting there... self-replication requires
    that it is executed and if you had done that, then you would have had
    an infestation to clean up... more likely is that someone found
    another way to upload it to those other areas... your logs should be
    able to tell you more...

    well.. I believe when the system was updating the filelist (addfiles)
    it replicated.. there would be no other possible way for it to move
    from the only upload directory I had to the root directory of the
    drive my BBS was on.. and I did'nt execute this file in any manners whatsoever..

    file list updates don't/can't execute them anyway... all we're doing is taking a DIR output and massaging it a little for display with the files' entries in the FILES.BBS file or some other file data storage database format...

    occam's razor says that most likely an anonymous "user" uploaded them with a scripted ftp bot that simply walked all the directories and tried to upload the
    file in each one of them...

    )\/(ark

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Tony Langdon on Thursday, September 21, 2017 13:52:44
    On 2017 Sep 18 19:58:00, you wrote to Daryl Stout:

    My SSH is on an odd port anyway, sshd got in first. ;)

    we specifically configure sshd to a port other than the default on all systems... in the case of max's system, she elected to leave sbbs' ssh on the default port but it is easily moved, as well...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to mark lewis on Friday, September 22, 2017 06:40:00
    mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    we specifically configure sshd to a port other than the default on all systems... in the case of max's system, she elected to leave sbbs' ssh
    on the default port but it is easily moved, as well...

    Yes, all easily moved. :)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to All on Sunday, September 22, 2019 07:01:00
    I added photo.scr to my file.can file years ago, and deleted all of
    the copies of it - someone uploaded it to all of my bases.

    The files are gone, but they still show up in the file listings. Is
    there a quicker way to remove the file listing than logging on and
    going to each base individually?



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, September 22, 2019 12:24:01
    Re: photo.scr
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Sun Sep 22 2019 07:01 am

    I added photo.scr to my file.can file years ago, and deleted all of
    the copies of it - someone uploaded it to all of my bases.

    The files are gone, but they still show up in the file listings. Is
    there a quicker way to remove the file listing than logging on and
    going to each base individually?

    Use the ;OFFLINE sysop command.

    digital man

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, September 22, 2019 18:23:02
    Re: photo.scr
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Sun Sep 22 2019 07:01 am

    I added photo.scr to my file.can file years ago, and deleted all of
    the copies of it - someone uploaded it to all of my bases.

    The files are gone, but they still show up in the file listings. Is
    there a quicker way to remove the file listing than logging on and
    going to each base individually?

    use delfiles to get rid of offline files
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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, September 23, 2019 09:18:00
    Re: photo.scr
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Sun Sep 22 2019 07:01:00

    The files are gone, but they still show up in the file listings. Is
    there a quicker way to remove the file listing than logging on and
    going to each base individually?

    go to your transfer section and use the ;offline function to list files that don't exist... then tag and remove each of them...


    )\/(ark

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to MRO on Monday, September 23, 2019 10:52:08
    Re: photo.scr
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Sep 22 2019 18:23:02

    The files are gone, but they still show up in the file listings. Is
    there a quicker way to remove the file listing than logging on and
    going to each base individually?

    use delfiles to get rid of offline files

    i cannot seem to get it to run cleanly on my system... it appears to not read/use the $SBBSCTRL environment var... it also seems to want to work only in the current directory... in other words, when i start it from my $HOME directory, it tries to walk through the directories in there instead of those in sbbs/data/dirs... changing to sbbs/data/dirs and then running it seems to only do the first listed area... in all cases, i've followed the wiki and tried with the following command line...

    /sbbs/exec/delfiles * /off /rpt

    for example:

    user@machine:~$ cd /sbbs/data/dirs

    user@machine:/sbbs/data/dirs$ /sbbs/exec/delfiles * /off /rpt

    DELFILES Version 1.01 (Linux) - Removes files from Synchronet Filebase

    Scanning Main BBS Related

    sbbs@southeaststar:/sbbs/data/dirs$

    and that's it... it isn't walking through all the areas like the wiki seems to indicate it should do...


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Rampage on Monday, September 23, 2019 12:15:58
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Rampage to MRO on Mon Sep 23 2019 10:52 am

    Re: photo.scr
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Sep 22 2019 18:23:02

    The files are gone, but they still show up in the file listings. Is there a quicker way to remove the file listing than logging on and going to each base individually?

    use delfiles to get rid of offline files

    i cannot seem to get it to run cleanly on my system... it appears to not read/use the $SBBSCTRL environment var...

    Seems to work for me.

    it also seems to want to work only
    in the current directory... in other words, when i start it from my $HOME directory, it tries to walk through the directories in there instead of those in sbbs/data/dirs... changing to sbbs/data/dirs and then running it seems to only do the first listed area... in all cases, i've followed the wiki and tried with the following command line...

    /sbbs/exec/delfiles * /off /rpt

    for example:

    user@machine:~$ cd /sbbs/data/dirs

    user@machine:/sbbs/data/dirs$ /sbbs/exec/delfiles * /off /rpt

    '*' is special in bash. Try using "\*" or the "-all" option instead (I know, it's not documented).

    DELFILES Version 1.01 (Linux) - Removes files from Synchronet Filebase

    Scanning Main BBS Related

    sbbs@southeaststar:/sbbs/data/dirs$

    and that's it... it isn't walking through all the areas like the wiki seems to indicate it should do...

    It's expanding '*' to a list of files in the current directory.

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Monday, September 23, 2019 15:39:59
    Re: photo.scr
    By: Digital Man to Rampage on Mon Sep 23 2019 12:15:58

    user@machine:/sbbs/data/dirs$ /sbbs/exec/delfiles * /off /rpt

    '*' is special in bash. Try using "\*" or the "-all" option instead (I know,
    it's not documented).

    ahh, shit! i keep forgetting that... yes, "\*' works :embarrassed:


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  • From Kurt Weiske@VERT to Digital Man on Monday, September 23, 2019 06:37:00
    Digital Man wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Use the ;OFFLINE sysop command.

    Thanks! That's a great way to do some cleanup work, too - I imported some of my file bases from my old BBS, and some files ended up being missing.

    Time to house clean...


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 14:19:00
    I added photo.scr to my file.can file years ago, and deleted all of
    the copies of it - someone uploaded it to all of my bases.

    The files are gone, but they still show up in the file listings. Is
    there a quicker way to remove the file listing than logging on and
    going to each base individually?

    At a command prompt, type:

    1) SET SBBSCTRL=C:\SBBS\CTRL
    2) SET SBBSNODEC:\SBBS\NODE1

    Then, go to \sbbs\exec and type DELFILES * /OFF -- I have that on a
    line by itself in nightly maintenance, and it zaps files I've removed.

    Daryl


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