I was using PeerBlock, and that helped stop a bunch of them. But, is there a "list of bad countries", per se?? If so, I can put them into PeerBlock, and that'll stop them from accessing at all.
ipdeny.com has country blocks.
someone quote me so daryl can see. he probably blocked me because
i'm going to hell and the devil and the demons are laughing at me.
As for the Christian related items, I have them on my BBS, but users
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I have also set it to where messages posted on my BBS are to use REAL NAMES. This provides for accountability in the postings, instead of
having to hide behind an alias. Users who apply for access who do not
I was using PeerBlock, and that helped stop a bunch of them. But, is there a "list of bad countries", per se?? If so, I can put them into PeerBlock, and that'll stop them from accessing at all.
ipdeny.com has country blocks.
I had to disable PeerBlock, because it not only does NOT allow me to
not get the Sunrise Doors InterBBS compeitition games processed, it also does NOT allow me to access the BBSLinkNet doorgames scores.
someone quote me so daryl can see. he probably blocked me because
i'm going to hell and the devil and the demons are laughing at me.
Not to mention your attitude that I've seen in various messages
from you toward others in several echoes. If you can't say something
nice to someone, don't say anything at all.
Many times, I've seen your messages to others laced with profanity, or engaged in "character assassination". I have enough of a command of the English language where I don't need to use such. To me, profanity is the attempt of a feeble mind to express itself forcibly. When I see users
engaging in such behavior on another BBS, I feel that they will do
likewise on my system...so, they are blocked.
I have also set it to where messages posted on my BBS are to use REAL NAMES. This provides for accountability in the postings, instead of
having to hide behind an alias. Users who apply for access who do not provide their real name are blocked from ever connecting to the BBS
again. They can use an alias after verification, but I've had scores of users over the 25 years I've been a Sysop, try to circumvent the rules
I've laid down...and doing what I've described in this paragraph.
What users do OUTSIDE MY BBS is THEIR BUSINESS...but, they're a Guest
In My Home at logon. And, admittedly, all caps is considered shouting,
but I'm using this for emphasis. If a user or Sysop doesn't want to
logon to my BBS because of the way I run it, that's their choice. There
are likely many more BBS's out there that are probably much more to
their liking.
With FIDONet and QWK Networking, you have NOTHING like that. A message laced with profanity, character assassination, attacking the moderator,
etc. goes through several systems before it gets to the moderator's
As for the Christian related items, I have them on my BBS, but users
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NAMES. This provides for accountability in the postings, instead of having to hide behind an alias. Users who apply for access who do not
As far as using real names - I agree that people shouldn't hide behind an alias. However, I think there are valid reasons one might use an alias besides hiding behind it online to troll people. Some people might just
Daryl Stout wrote to MRO on 09-10-17 13:18 <=-
I was using PeerBlock, and that helped stop a bunch of them. But, is there a "list of bad countries", per se?? If so, I can put them into PeerBlock, and that'll stop them from accessing at all.
ipdeny.com has country blocks.
I had to disable PeerBlock, because it not only does NOT allow me to
not get the Sunrise Doors InterBBS compeitition games processed, it
also does NOT allow me to access the BBSLinkNet doorgames scores.
using an alias isnt 'hiding' infact, it was the norm for this hobby and computing in general.
who cares what someone's name is? i sure dont.
I'm just curious, does your BBS software or message editor limit the size of messages that you post? I'm curious why you tend to break messages up into several messages (even mid-sentence, as you've done with this message).
As far as using real names - I agree that people shouldn't hide behind an alias. However, I think there are valid reasons one might use an alias besides hiding behind it online to troll people. Some people might just want a little privacy online - They might have a reason to not want people to easily track them. Perhaps someone has a stalker in real life who might want to follow them.. Who knows, and IMO it's best not to judge people. You don't know what struggles someone might be facing. Using a handle seems to be fairly standard practice - For instance, there's a guitar forum I read & post in online, and everyone there uses a handle.
As for the Christian related items, I have them on my BBS, but users
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Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow and you'll be fine.
Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow and you'll be fine.
Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Bill McGarrity to Daryl Stout on Mon Sep 11 2017 09:07:00
Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow and you'll be fine.
I knew there would have to be away to get around that just like any frewall, etc.. but I've never run PeerBlock.. SBBS does all I need it to do, if I give it enough time to keeps it's database built up.
Nightfox wrote to Daryl Stout <=-
As far as using real names - I agree that people shouldn't hide behind
an alias. However, I think there are valid reasons one might use an
alias besides hiding behind it online to troll people. Some people
might just want a little privacy online - They might have a reason to
not want people to easily track them. Perhaps someone has a stalker in real life who might want to follow them.. Who knows, and IMO it's best not to judge people. You don't know what struggles someone might be facing. Using a handle seems to be fairly standard practice - For instance, there's a guitar forum I read & post in online, and everyone there uses a handle.
And are you sure everyone who has used your BBS has used their real
real name? People could make up a fake first & last name.
KK4QBN wrote to Nightfox <=-
Otherwise, if a use is to lazy to take the 2 minutes to aplly for user acces here, then they will never be a productive member of this system.
I don't ask off the wall question.. Name, Location, Handle, Callsign (handle) email address, and where you heard of the BBS and what you
want to see in a BBS (Why do you visit). takes no more then a couple minutes to sign up..
And I've noticed these BOTS are getting further and further into
peoples systems and inadvertently posting stuff on networked walls,
etc.. just through the random commands/ logins they issue.. So guest account here is gone.. pretty much.
KK4QBN wrote to Mro <=-
LOL, I don'l let my religious or political beliefs govern my BBS, (but will defend myself from persecution)
I'm in no race to get users, they call when they want to.. I have a
good many regulars who call many times a day, but its because I try to welcome them on the system and have something here to please everyone.
I would more than likely put "Tasteful Nudes" on the BBS for a certian security level, because I've had people ask for the quality pics we
used to offer on our website.. we recruited good, up and coming models, paid them well, followed all laws, and was always tasteful with the sites.. we embedded tracking cookies to see what peoples bests
interests were, through referral links, etc.. and it seemed people
liked some raunchy stuff.. thats when we shut down.
Daryl Stout wrote to MRO <=-
@VIA: VERT/TBOLT
@TZ: c168
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are NOT required to access or use them (message areas, file areas, bulletins, or doors). If they access them, I want it to be of their own free will and choice. What they do with the information is up to them.
I also have other issues that make jumping through hoops something I prever to avoid. I will be keeping my guest account, but will be reviewing the security settings. Long term is I may leave it for file download access only. In this scenaario, telnet guest access might become information about signing up to the BBS and that's in, in this scenario.
Today, no need, because the Internet provides the breadth of content. There's nothing "controversial" that I've seen in current echo lists.
And are you sure everyone who has used your BBS has used their real real name? People could make up a fake first & last name.
That's what I did for those times I need it. :) It looked like a real name, but was an alias.
Re: Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Vk3jed to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 12 2017 08:33:00
Today, no need, because the Internet provides the breadth of content. There's nothing "controversial" that I've seen in current echo lists.
EXACTLY.. its sad that my 9 year old nephew will do a search for some game or addon and get bombarded with explicit pictures on google.. even with
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I'm just curious, does your BBS software or message editor limit the size of N>messages that you post? I'm curious why you tend to break messages up into N>several messages (even mid-sentence, as you've done with this message).
And are you sure everyone who has used your BBS has used their real real name N>People could make up a fake first & last name.
you are using the default peerblock blocklists apparently.
you dont need to do that.
you telling me i was going to hell (FOR 4 PAGES) for something trivial isnt s M>nice either. religious people are the ones with the most skeletons in the M>closet.
there's nothing wrong with some fucking swearing. i'm not a feeble mind, and M>i'm sure if you and i went toe to toe intellectually you wouldnt fare M>well. you'd probably have a medical issue and not show up beforehand, though.
good to know that i am blocked on a bbs i would never visit anyways.
who the fuck cares what name someone uses. i'm not hiding. am i afraid dary M>is going to come to my house and beat me up? nope. also i dont care what name M>you use.
i bet you get no users.
I had to disable PeerBlock, because it not only does NOT allow me to not get the Sunrise Doors InterBBS compeitition games processed, it also does NOT allow me to access the BBSLinkNet doorgames scores.
Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow a BM>you'll be fine.
LOL, I don'l let my religious or political beliefs govern my BBS, (but will K>defend myself from persecution)
I'm in no race to get users, they call when they want to.. I have a good many K>regulars who call many times a day, but its because I try to welcome them on K>the system and have something here to please everyone.
I would more than likely put "Tasteful Nudes" on the BBS for a certian securi K>level, because I've had people ask for the quality pics we used to offer on K>our website.. we recruited good, up and coming models, paid them well, follow K>all laws, and was always tasteful with the sites.. we embedded tracking cooki K>to see what peoples bests interests were, through referral links, etc.. and i K>seemed people liked some raunchy stuff.. thats when we shut down.
Still it was a good venture considering T1 was the quickest backbone running K>from chattanooga to our area, and we ran dual ISDN lines and would change K>settings as need to either give better bandwith to the website or free up K>phonelines for POTS calls coming in (We provided PPP and BBS dialup acces and K>could have four incoming lines at once coming in and 64mbs going in/out think K>it was divided)
I've had a couple of twits...even a "Sysop" who refused to provide his details. As a result, he was banned from the system. I don't remember
his name, or his system.
reached". I feel that "honesty is the best policy" (as per the late Ben Franklin <G>),
If the user commits a serious egregious violation of the BBS rules,
then I advise other Confirmed Visiting Sysops, so that they may protect their systems. We've spent too much time and money, to let a twit
destroy everything.
you are using the default peerblock blocklists apparently.
you dont need to do that.
Well, it won't let me run certain BBS or ham radio programs. So, I had
to disable it.
I wouldn't waste my time. Vengenance is The Lord's -- He will take
care of you in His own time.
i bet you get no users.
I'm not running the BBS for my ego, and it doesn't bother me if I get
very few users. If I didn't enjoy the BBS, I would have shut it down
years ago.
Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow a BM>you'll be fine.
The Sunrise Doors InterBBS competition has its own processor...not
sure what it's IP address is...and the same thing applies for the ham
radio application of CQ100.
I am manually adding the IP of the "temporary block" addresses into
the ip.can file; in effect, permanently blocking them from the BBS. I'm
also doing the same to these IP's, who are slamming my system via SSH
logon attempts.
I've had a couple of twits...even a "Sysop" who refused to provide his
details. As a result, he was banned from the system. I don't remember
his name, or his system.
just because someone doesnt want to give a stranger his real personal information just to use a shitty bbs, that doesnt make him a twit.
i wouldnt let any kid use the internet without close supervision.
maybe that's why my son is so fucking computer illiterate now. my gf's daughter is 12 and got in trouble a bunch of times on her phone. she even catfished a guy.
Did you get much damage from Hurricane Irma?? The ham radio and
damage reports I saw from Florida were staggering.
we dont even HAVE users nowadays.
Well, it won't let me run certain BBS or ham radio programs. So, I had
to disable it.
peerblock doesnt prevent bbs or ham radio programs to run.
it only has blocklists that you can optionally use.
seems like a lot of work for nothing. but if you have the free time, go ahead. you know you could just cat the file into ip.can hourly
Mro wrote to Bill McGarrity on 09-11-17 18:34 <=-
Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Bill McGarrity to Daryl Stout on Mon Sep 11 2017 09:07 am
Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow and you'll be fine.
well those default lists arent any good really. they have always had issues. it blocks many game companies like activision and residential
ip addresses too. it's best to make up your own list and the syntax is pretty easy. ---
Bill,
I had to disable PeerBlock, because it not only does NOT allow me to not get the Sunrise Doors InterBBS compeitition games processed, it also does NOT allow me to access the BBSLinkNet doorgames scores.
Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow a BM>you'll be fine.
The Sunrise Doors InterBBS competition has its own processor...not
sure what it's IP address is...and the same thing applies for the ham
radio application of CQ100.
I am manually adding the IP of the "temporary block" addresses into
the ip.can file; in effect, permanently blocking them from the BBS. I'm
also doing the same to these IP's, who are slamming my system via SSH
logon attempts.
just because someone doesnt want to give a stranger his real personal information just to use a shitty bbs, that doesnt make him a twit.
no, it makes them a twunt... if it is a "shitty bbs", WTF are they doing there on it anyway?
we dont even HAVE users nowadays.
Umm... I have a few regulars, and usually get 1-2 new users a week, the pots line is pretty damn popular too..
Maybe It's how the people percieve the SYSOP of a bbs??
peerblock doesnt prevent bbs or ham radio programs to run.
it only has blocklists that you can optionally use.
Well something is blocking outgoing traffic on his system.. the BBSLINK connector was'nt working, He disables peerblock and then it works..
the bbslink connector is a hacked over telgate feature..
if you have the answers tell us?
Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Mro to Daryl Stout on Tue Sep 12 2017 00:07:18
seems like a lot of work for nothing. but if you have the free time, go ahead. you know you could just cat the file into ip.can hourly
be nice and give him an example HOW instead of berating him and being such a prick.. You used to actually offer help to people, but anymore you won't offer them crap without first being a dick.. either you're just turning into a sour old man, or you have issues.. very serious issues.. there is no use in this.. go troll on facebook..
just because someone doesnt want to give a stranger his real personal M>information just to use a shitty bbs, that doesnt make him a twit.
you know ben franklin cheated on his wife, right?
we dont even HAVE users nowadays.
I have real issues with this, especially in the modern climate of personal V>information gathering. While that's not something a BBS sysop does (for V>pusposes other than running the BBS itself), the perception is out there, V>because of all those services that _do_ collect your information to add you t V>their mailing lists.
I run my systems for one user - me. If anyone else likes what I'm doing and V>wants to stick around, great, but if they don't, that's fine by me too.
Yes, back in the day, a lot of BBSs had somewhat "raunchy" sections, usually V>only offered to users who the sysop had a particularly good relationship with
Today, no need, because the Internet provides the breadth of content. There' V>nothing "controversial" that I've seen in current echo lists.
... The wheel's spinning, but the hamster's dead.
DM has fixed this issue with a new upgraded logon.js and a couple other thing K>that one would need to fix to make sure it works correctly.. I beleive the K>thread is in dovenet Synchronet programming.
EXACTLY.. its sad that my 9 year old nephew will do a search for some game or K>addon and get bombarded with explicit pictures on google.. even with strict K>filtering..
sad indeed.. I'm all for open internet, but lets at least try to keep our K>pre-pubescent kids as innocent as possible.
when I walked on him one day with those pics on the browser, he told me he wa K>searching for something for minecraft and it came up.. I believe him.. so I s K>him down and explained to him what his father should have.
He left with a better understanding and now I do not believe it will scare hi
I'm not going to lie.. I looked at Playboys, etc when I was 8 or 9 but not no K>of the crap that is freely acessible today.. My dad say me down and taught me K>that nudity was natural and sex was natural, I guess thats when I got my bird K>and bees talks..
Tim,
DM has fixed this issue with a new upgraded logon.js and a couple other thing K>that one would need to fix to make sure it works correctly.. I beleive the K>thread is in dovenet Synchronet programming.
I'll have go get that new logon.js -- unless it was in the new SBBS_DEV.ZIP that I got last night. I did have to reboot the system to
unzip it, because the system wouldn't let SMBUTIL be replaced, even
though I had shut down the Synchronet Control Panel. Once I rebooted,
and extracted SBBS_DEV.ZIP to C:\SBBS\EXEC, everything extracted fine. That's the first time I've had a problem with extracting files from it.
infact, one guy called me a homosexual (using not so nice words)here and said i never did anything for the bbs community. so i banned his ass from my bbs.
Umm... I have a few regulars, and usually get 1-2 new users a week,
the pots line is pretty damn popular too..
yeah i get that. i dont consider that real traffic though. i had a pots line up for 5 yrs or so but only one guy used it and he was just an experimenter retro guy.
Maybe It's how the people percieve the SYSOP of a bbs??
i dont think any users know anything about the sysops of bbses nor do they research about it.
infact, one guy called me a homosexual (using not so nice words)here and said i never did anything for the bbs community. so i banned his ass from my bbs. my bbs had the best lord game according to him and he loved it.
if you have the answers tell us?
i already said it many times over many months. you dont use those default shit lists.
i already told this nutjob 100 times. over the past 3 months
just because someone doesnt want to give a stranger his real personal M>information just to use a shitty bbs, that doesnt make him a twit.
Even if the President of the United States showed up at my door, with
the Secret Service in tow, I would want ID.
If I don't know someone's true identity, or whether I can trust them,
they are NOT WELCOME in my home, or on my BBS.
you know ben franklin cheated on his wife, right?
That's none of my concern. He's not the first person in history to do that.
infact, one guy called me a homosexual (using not so nice words)here and said i never did anything for the bbs community. so i banned his ass from my bbs.
You have also used not-so-nice words to call people that on Dove-Net.. Not too long ago, in fact. Just wanted to point that out..
well.. obviously he researched you and your antics somewhere, to find out that you really do more harm to the bbs community than good.. so there you just debunked your own opinion..
i already said it many times over many months. you dont use those default shit lists.
people tend to disregard the rest of your message when you call them idiots, or other choice words, so pretty much everything else you type beyond the halfway relative stuff you do mutter goes unseen.
Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Mro to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 12 2017 16:02:58
i already told this nutjob 100 times. over the past 3 months
Referenece my last message regarding this.
actually, no he didnt. he didnt know shit. and when he was banned from my systems and websites he was surprised and he was crying about it.
i havent harmed the bbs community one bit. infact it's not possible to harm the bbs community period. the only way to harm the community would be
people tend to disregard the rest of your message when you call them
idiots, or other choice words, so pretty much everything else you type
beyond the halfway relative stuff you do mutter goes unseen.
this guy has 2 brain cells and they're fighting.
if your theory is correct [which it probably isnt], i couldnt care less.
Referenece my last message regarding this.
nope.
KK4QBN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
DM has fixed this issue with a new upgraded logon.js and a couple other things that one would need to fix to make sure it works correctly.. I beleive the thread is in dovenet Synchronet programming.
KK4QBN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
EXACTLY.. its sad that my 9 year old nephew will do a search for some
game or addon and get bombarded with explicit pictures on google.. even with strict filtering..
sad indeed.. I'm all for open internet, but lets at least try to keep
our pre-pubescent kids as innocent as possible.
when I walked on him one day with those pics on the browser, he told me
he was searching for something for minecraft and it came up.. I believe him.. so I sat him down and explained to him what his father should
have.
He left with a better understanding and now I do not believe it will
scare him.
I'm not going to lie.. I looked at Playboys, etc when I was 8 or 9 but
not none of the crap that is freely acessible today.. My dad say me
down and taught me that nudity was natural and sex was natural, I guess thats when I got my birds and bees talks..
Bad parenting is what creates sexual predators IMHO.
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i'm pretty sure with fidonet you can SIGN your name, or you can just
use a real looking name.
Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-
1) As long as you play by the simple rules I've laid down, your data is kept STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL. If you break the rules, Confirmed Visiting Sysops are notified of your data, so that they can protect their
systems.
When my late wife and Co-Sysop was alive, even she did NOT have
access to the data...that's how seriously I took it. And, in the over
25 years of being a Sysop, I've NEVER had a law enforcement subpeona
for user data...and I intend to keep it that way. I'm going to run the system "above board".
2) They will NOT be sent mail from the Sysop, unless they initiate a message first.
Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-
I run my systems for one user - me. If anyone else likes what I'm doing and
wants to stick around, great, but if they don't, that's fine by me too.
THANK YOU!!
Years ago in central Arkansas, when there were at least a dozen local BBS's, there were monthly gatherings of Sysops and users at local restaurants. Like with ham radio hamfests, it was "an experience"
putting faces to user names. :)
One female Sysop ran an adult BBS, and she was "carding" every single person who applied for access. I never did call her BBS.
Today, no need, because the Internet provides the breadth of content.here'
nothing "controversial" that I've seen in current echo lists.
When I was on dial-up only over 20 years ago, I had a caller page me
for chat. He asked "Where's all the adult content??". When I typed "The Internet", his response was <CLICK!> -- NO CARRIER. <G>
... The wheel's spinning, but the hamster's dead.
His ghosts keep it moving. <G>
Daryl Stout wrote to KK4QBN <=-
Sort of like a user wanting access to adult files, even though he's under 18. His reason?? "I need them for a high school sex education
class project!!". Nice try, but no dice. <G>
graffitti on a newstand that was selling Playboy. After their deed, it read "If you enjoy self PLAY, BOY this magazine will sure help!!". :P
It's not like the old days of "the birds and the beees"...especially
in the Yogi Bear cartoon, where Yogi explains that to Boo Boo...in that "birds fly, and bees make honey". :P
Now, they say "sex is a misdemeanor -- the more you miss, the meaner
you get!!". <G> Just what these hormone fevered adolescents need to
hear <sigh!>.
I am manually adding the IP of the "temporary block" addresses into the
ip.can file; in effect, permanently blocking them from the BBS. I'm
also doing the same to these IP's, who are slamming my system via SSH
logon attempts.
That's unnecessary. Synchronet can automatically do this for you. Just
set the "Perm Filter Threshold" to the same value that you currently
have for the "Temp Ban Threshold" and those IP addresses will be automatically added your ip.can file, effectively disabling the
temp-ban feature altogether.
DM has fixed this issue with a new upgraded logon.js and a couple
other things that one would need to fix to make sure it works
correctly.. I beleive the thread is in dovenet Synchronet
programming.
Oh, OK. I don't follow that area closely, because it's mostly the finer points of the coding, and C is not my language. :) I'm still to upgrade to 3.17, last attempt failed to compile, and haven't got around to it since.
LoginAttemptDelay=5000 < these 2 create a pause before allowing LoginAttemptThrottle=1000 login prompt to reappear. LoginAttemptHackThreshold=10 Logs attempted hack LoginAttemptTempBanThreshold=20 tmp ban saved in memory LoginAttemptTempBanDuration=10M for a total of _ minutes LoginAttemptFilterThreshold=10 attemps before added to ip.can
He is trolling you... if y'all want to keep this thread up, please move it to K>the RELIGION area.. for the sanity of us all..
we dodged the bullet brother.. the first few track projections showed the eye K>coming right up through our area, but when it dissapated to a category 2 arou K>ft meyers and once made land fall I beleive it weakened it so much that the K>system already in place just pushed it around and KO'd it.. all we have up he K>is empty gas stations, empty grocery stores, motels, campgrounds, and horse K>stables full of Floridians, about a half inch of rain and the wind never made K>it over about 15-20 mph gusts.. That was a strange Hurricane.. the way it K>hugged the coastline of every landmass it went to, I presume thats why all K>their bays and beaches temporarily were drew back..
There was a lot of good hospitality here.. a couple motels lodged people free K>as did most the campgrounds. our animal shelters are full of evacuees.. and K>there are a few shelters open in different counties up here.. I'm about 65m N K>of Atlanta and they faired a bit differently down there, Was listening to the K>radio and heard a few streets were shut down because falling debris off K>buildings.. It's weird how only a few miles can make the difference.
What was left of it turned into alabama, we only received I presume the very K>edge of it, or whatever it pushed this way.. :)
That's unnecessary. Synchronet can automatically do this for you. Just set t DM>"Perm Filter Threshold" to the same value that you currently have for the "T DM>Ban Threshold" and those IP addresses will be automatically added your ip.ca DM>file, effectively disabling the temp-ban feature altogether.
That works for me. No one, other than myself ever got access to user TL>information, except for the friend who took over the system, and he never TL>divulged anything either.
Same here. Never had an issue with law enforcement, and as a matter of fact TL>we did put in a submission to an early inquiry into regulation of online TL>systems.
2) They will NOT be sent mail from the Sysop, unless they initiate a message first.
Yep. :)
... What you can do to stop obscene phone calls: Don't make them!
The point being each of us has our reasons for running a BBS. Today, costs TL>much lower, so we don't have to justify our rationale for running a BBS.
"carding"? Female sysops were a relatively rare breed, in any case. I only TL>recall encountering one or two back then.
... It usually takes weeks to prepare an impromptu speech.
infact, one guy called me a homosexual (using not so nice
words)here and said i never did anything for the bbs community. so
i banned his ass from my bbs.
You have also used not-so-nice words to call people that on Dove-Net..
Not too long ago, in fact. Just wanted to point that out..
whats your point?
I'm going to have to check with the Wooly Worms, for their prognostication. Punxatawney Phil is in hiberation until February. <G>
I also saw a bizarre hostname slam the system...
I.DareYou.ToHit.This
It is now in the host filter.
I've also notice at times with the emails, some try to hack that,
and both usually resolve to 72.52.4.122 (I have several blacklists
enabled) -- and at times, these come in with a reversible IP (in
this case, 122.4.52.72) -- so, I block both.
On 2017 Sep 12 13:31:30, you wrote to Daryl Stout:
I am manually adding the IP of the "temporary block" addresses into the
ip.can file; in effect, permanently blocking them from the BBS. I'm
also doing the same to these IP's, who are slamming my system via SSH
logon attempts.
That's unnecessary. Synchronet can automatically do this for you. Just set the "Perm Filter Threshold" to the same value that you currently have for the "Temp Ban Threshold" and those IP addresses will be automatically added your ip.can file, effectively disabling the temp-ban feature altogether.
what are the INI file keys for "Perm Filter Threshold" and "Temp Ban Threshold"?
i havent harmed the bbs community one bit. infact it's not possible to harm the bbs community period. the only way to harm the community would be to attack bbses and make them unconnectable or something to that effect.
Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Mro to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 12 2017 19:32:35
actually, no he didnt. he didnt know shit. and when he was banned from my systems and websites he was surprised and he was crying about it.
i havent harmed the bbs community one bit. infact it's not possible to harm the bbs community period. the only way to harm the community would be
Why not just go back to using your old handle.. because obviously you are OBVLIOUS to MANY things.
if your theory is correct [which it probably isnt], i couldnt care less.
Actually, He is just as smart or smarter than anyone in this network, different people have different ways of looking at things.. there are some
Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Mro to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 12 2017 19:33:50
Referenece my last message regarding this.
nope.
Troll.. (I'm beginning to think this is too nice a label for you).
Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-
1) As long as you play by the simple rules I've laid down, your data is kept STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL. If you break the rules, Confirmed Visiting Sysops are notified of your data, so that they can protect their systems.
That works for me. No one, other than myself ever got access to user information, except for the friend who took over the system, and he never divulged anything either.
Tim,
He is trolling you... if y'all want to keep this thread up, please move it to K>the RELIGION area.. for the sanity of us all..
I have now put his name in the TWIT configuration of Synchronet...so
any further messages from him will automatically be deleted by
Synchronet. I looked through the documentation, and discovered
that...it's like the SPOTKILL utility for GT Power BBS software.
So, he will never darken my message bases again. Thankfully, the
others I've seen in DoveNet aren't as vitrolic as he is.
That will help. I'm getting slammed by SSH bots.
I also saw a bizarre hostname slam the system...
I.DareYou.ToHit.This
It is now in the host filter.
I've also notice at times with the emails, some try to hack that, and
both usually resolve to 72.52.4.122 (I have several blacklists enabled)
-- and at times, these come in with a reversible IP (in this case, 122.4.52.72) -- so, I block both.
Re: On The Twit List
By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Wed Sep 13 2017 10:04 am
Tim,
He is trolling you... if y'all want to keep this thread up, please move it to K>the RELIGION area.. for the sanity of us all..
I have now put his name in the TWIT configuration of Synchronet...so any further messages from him will automatically be deleted by Synchronet. I looked through the documentation, and discovered that...it's like the SPOTKILL utility for GT Power BBS software.
So, he will never darken my message bases again. Thankfully, the
others I've seen in DoveNet aren't as vitrolic as he is.
whats your point?
It seems a little hypocritical to ban someone from your BBS for that, and then you go and talk like that to other people.
i havent harmed the bbs community one bit. infact it's not possible
to harm the bbs community period. the only way to harm the community
would be to attack bbses and make them unconnectable or something to
that effect.
In my time on Dove-Net, I've seen several new sysops be driven away by trollish antics from other members on Dove-Net.. Often by bashing them for not doing enough research or putting up a BBS that isn't modded enough, etc.
In my time on Dove-Net, I've seen several new sysops be driven away by trollish antics from other members on Dove-Net.. Often by bashing them for not doing enough research or putting up a BBS that isn't modded enough, etc.
whats your point?
It seems a little hypocritical to ban someone from your BBS for that, and then you go and talk like that to other people.
Remember who you're talking to.. decency, common courtesy, and dare I say intelligence take a back seat when it comes to him..
I was going to make a political pot shot, but will bite my tongue because I really would rather not see the mess that would unfold.. so.. use your imaginations folks..
I first came back in July or so of last year, and no sooner did I get hooked back up with dovenet this jackelop started on me, drudging up the past about my PAST active drug addiction, etc.. in fear of relapse because of his ignorance and shear disregard for the human race I just dropped it all and went away..
with him on a good many things, but if he was'nt such a trollish Dick he would be cool IMO.. I know he's gonna come back with "know one cares about your opinion" and "I do what I want, this is my world" or some stupid shit like that... but I don't care.. as long as he continues being a twit, twat, wanker, skater boi wanna be I'll bask in the fact that I know I, and everyone else here is better than him for that.. and I do realize he needs serious mental help so I try my best not to bash him too hard..
I'll never ever again put him in my twitlist, because you do not walk away from people who need help.. MRO go get that help that you desperatly need.. I did.. and it worked for me.. I was very seriously addicted to opiates.. and I am still and will always be an addict. I went to rehab and used the tools given to me to keep me straight.. I'm sure they have something out
Why not just go back to using your old handle.. because obviously you
are OBVLIOUS to MANY things.
i like this one because it's shorter.
i offered a cash reward in the past to people that could provide proof that i harmed the bbs community. nobody got it.
Actually, He is just as smart or smarter than anyone in this network,
different people have different ways of looking at things.. there are
some
yeah ok.
Troll.. (I'm beginning to think this is too nice a label for you).
you dont even know what a troll is.
with the way today's sysops do things i wouldnt trust my information with them. they run older versions of windows that are easily compromised and lose their systems to 'crashes' and never seem to backup.
thank you. see you in hell with your wife.
thank you. see you in hell with your wife.
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
the file in questions is javascript, and you can upgrade your binaries without having to compile the source code, they have nightly builds on
the website.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
If there's no reason to divulge, why do it??
When I did a brief stint at Little Rock 911, they did a complete criminal background check on me...and they do the same on a yearly
basis out where I live.
Yet, when I worked at Burger King 40 years ago...and then in
silkscreen printing for nearly 20 years, people would come in, and have
no idea what they wanted...expecting us to figure it out for them!!
That was even with a menu, and samples of what we had printed!!
... What you can do to stop obscene phone calls: Don't make them!
Tell that to former college football coach Hugh Freeze. <G> It came
out that he did that (called an out of state escort service), and he abruptly resigned!!
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Especially considering that you can have as many telnet nodes as you desire...without the additional expense of another dial-up line for a node...and folks from anywhere in the world can telnet in.
"carding"? Female sysops were a relatively rare breed, in any case. Inly
recall encountering one or two back then.
That's what we termed it here. As I recall, she wasn't too bad
looking, but she was rather heavy set. Now, had she been with a slender figure and in a bikini, folks would've really been "coming toward her" (yes, I did just go there <LOL!>). :P
... It usually takes weeks to prepare an impromptu speech.
Isn't that the truth!! I'll add that to my collection. :)
Seriously, before doing ham radio nets, I practice the preamble...and
in some cases, have done it so much, that I've memorized it. Now, watch the net manager go ahead and switch it all around. :P
Mro wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
with the way today's sysops do things i wouldnt trust my information
with them. they run older versions of windows that are easily
compromised and lose their systems to 'crashes' and never seem to
Teh proof is in the pudding bud.. it's all over google... I'll admit, You have HELPED many people.. but you have also done things to run Sysops and users off..
And its latin roots are:
MrOblivious1BMF..
If this is'nt blatent abuse of systems you have implemented into synchronet and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..
can you not just SHITCAN this guy at the source?
EVERYONE IS SICK OF HIM!
I believe in free speech, but enough is enough already..
Re: On The Twit List
By: Mro2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:42:10
thank you. see you in hell with your wife.
Rob,
If this is'nt blatent abuse of systems you have implemented into synchronet and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..
can you not just SHITCAN this guy at the source?
EVERYONE IS SICK OF HIM!
I believe in free speech, but enough is enough already..
Mro wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
with the way today's sysops do things i wouldnt trust my information with them. they run older versions of windows that are easily compromised and lose their systems to 'crashes' and never seem to
I don't run Windows for server applications, and a BBS is a server. Linux is a better OS for those applications in my opinion. Windows is fine for the end user though.
you come and go all the time. dont blame it on other people. you are unstable.
you started a fight and i finished it.
the file in questions is javascript, and you can upgrade your
binaries without having to compile the source code, they have
nightly builds on the website.
ARRRGH, another Windows user. AFAIK, binaries are only for Windows, I run on a Pi.
mr proper is trying to bait me into being banned, but i'm not taking the bait. it's either calculated or he's having an episode.
If this is'nt blatent abuse of systems you have implemented into synchronet and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..
can you not just SHITCAN this guy at the source?
EVERYONE IS SICK OF HIM!
Speak for yourself and don't think you have the right to include everyone is your ignorant moronic statements, I like reading everyones opinions even yours and Dayrls.
You two are just thin skined self rightous self absorbed idiots.
In my time on Dove-Net, I've seen several new sysops be driven away by
trollish antics from other members on Dove-Net.. Often by bashing
them for not doing enough research or putting up a BBS that isn't
modded enough, etc.
nobody ever left bbsing because of what another sysop said in a msg network. never happened ever.
Re: On The Twit List
By: Mro2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:42:10
thank you. see you in hell with your wife.
Rob,
If this is'nt blatent abuse of systems you have implemented into synchronet
and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..
can you not just SHITCAN this guy at the source?
EVERYONE IS SICK OF HIM!
I believe in free speech, but enough is enough already..
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
the file in questions is javascript, and you can upgrade your binaries without having to compile the source code, they have nightly builds on the website.
ARRRGH, another Windows user. AFAIK, binaries are only for Windows, I run on a Pi.
^^^^Re: On The Twit List
By: Mro2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:42:10
and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in
the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..
Does what?
ARRRGH, another Windows user. AFAIK, binaries are only for Windows, I
run on a Pi.
nobody ever left bbsing because of what another sysop said in a msg network. never happened ever.
Oh really? I don't remember names specifically right now, but I remember seeing several sysops on Dove-Net getting fed up and saying they were going to quit because of the crap they got from others on Dove-Net.
On 2017 Sep 14 12:18:56, you wrote to KK4QBN:
^^^^Re: On The Twit List
By: Mro2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:42:10
[...]
and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in
the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..
Does what?
changed his name to Mro2 (as can be seen in the above quote header) to get around daryl's twitlisting of Mro...
^^^^By: Mro2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:42:10
changed his name to Mro2 (as can be seen in the above quote header) to get around daryl's twitlisting of Mro...
I believe in free speech, but enough is enough already..
And you have the freedom to filter his messages.
I had to have a police check to join the fire brigade, and other police chec TL>are likely in the future, all routine. I'm also constantly monitored for TL>evidence of certain offences, as a condition to maintaining my working with TL>children permit, which is a state requirement for any work, paid or voluntee TL>that involved direct contact with children, either in person or over TL>communication media (phone, Internet, etc). One good thing they did here is TL>made checks for volunteers free, but I have to pay for mine, becaise I do pa TL>work with kids.
no idea what they wanted...expecting us to figure it out for them!! That was even with a menu, and samples of what we had printed!!
Hahaha :)
Tell that to former college football coach Hugh Freeze. <G> It came out that he did that (called an out of state escort service), and he abruptly resigned!!
Oops. :D
LOL, I have literally done an impromptu talk in the truest sense - just stan TL>up and do it. :)
Seriously, before doing ham radio nets, I practice the preamble...and in some cases, have done it so much, that I've memorized it. Now, watch the net manager go ahead and switch it all around. :P
Hahaha :)
On 2017 Sep 14 12:18:56, you wrote to KK4QBN:
^^^^Re: On The Twit List
By: Mro2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:42:10
[...]
and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in
the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..
Does what?
changed his name to Mro2 (as can be seen in the above quote header) to get around daryl's twitlisting of Mro...
Re: On The Twit List
By: Digital Man to KK4QBN on Thu Sep 14 2017 12:18:56
I believe in free speech, but enough is enough already..
And you have the freedom to filter his messages.
Whats the use when he just logs in under a different name? that was the whole point of the message..
Yup. And we've had much more troublesome characters in the past do just that and elaborate counter-measures were developed to filter based on content rather than author/poster name, but even those filters could be circumvented. Nothing is 100%.
changed his name to Mro2 (as can be seen in the above quote header) to ge around daryl's twitlisting of Mro...
Ah, I didn't notice that. Well there's always away around. <shrug>
Whats the use when he just logs in under a different name? that was the whole point of the message..
There was a time I used a "real looking" alias on some nets and echoes.
Today, no need, because the Internet provides the breadth of content. There's nothing "controversial" that I've seen in current echo lists.
Re: On The Twit List
By: Digital Man to KK4QBN on Thu Sep 14 2017 12:18:56
I believe in free speech, but enough is enough already..
And you have the freedom to filter his messages.
Whats the use when he just logs in under a different name? that was the whole point of the message..
I run my systems for one user - me. If anyone else likes what I'm doing a V>wants to stick around, great, but if they don't, that's fine by me too.
when I walked on him one day with those pics on the browser, he told me he K>searching for something for minecraft and it came up.. I believe him.. so K>him down and explained to him what his father should have.
and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name
the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..
Does what?
changed his name to Mro2 (as can be seen in the above quote header) to ge around daryl's twitlisting of Mro...
Ah, I didn't notice that. Well there's always away around. <shrug>
Whats the use when he just logs in under a different name? that was
the whole point of the message..
I believe Mro said you can put wildcards in your name filter, so for example Mro~ would filter any name starting with Mro (including Mro2 etc.)
I don't have a BBS but I am wondering if there is a way to twit you out on my netrunner I will have to research that because I hate reading all your whaaaa whaaaaa self rightous BS.
What ever happenend to your enter key? you know if you don't like a post you can just hit enter and go to the next message, gawd what a moron.
I did notice it...and that's in the twit list as well. And, if I knew
his IP, I'd block it as well.
stuff like this really don't bother me anymore.. I just don't like others being bullied.. especially ones who are not around to stick up for themselves.
I realize some people have to do this to make themselves feel superior because they have an inferiority complex, I used to allow people to bully me all the time, but I've grown to either not give a crap in most situations now, or to fight back if needed..
I don't have a BBS but I am wondering if there is a way to twit you out on my netrunner I will have to research that because I hate reading all your whaaaa whaaaaa self rightous BS.
What ever happenend to your enter key? you know if you don't like a post you can just hit enter and go to the next message, gawd what a moron.
someone says something you don't like on a message board just remember these words of wisdom from The Big Lebowski "I can't be worried about that shit. Fuck it man, life goes on." Remember that and you'll be in a much better place :)
The comments left by Mro are often offensive. But what is a member of a message board going to do hundred or thousands of miles away? Remember the old saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?" I think that applies here. If Mro wants to be an asshole, that is his right. If you don't want to see them, filter his messages as needed (including alternate names if he uses them.) The Internet is not a friendly place and we should expect people to be abbrasive much of the time (look at a majority of Facebook as a great example of this.) If someone says something you don't like on a message board just remember these words of wisdom from The Big Lebowski "I can't be worried about that shit. Fuck it man, life goes on." Remember that and you'll be in a much better place :)
I did notice it...and that's in the twit list as well. And, if I
knew his IP, I'd block it as well.
You could probably do a whois or similar command with this BBS domain and find his IP that way (assuming he usually connects from home, where his external-facing IP address would be the same IP address that his BBS is hosted on). Even just pinging his BBS domain would probably come back with an IP address.
I realize some people have to do this to make themselves feel
superior because they have an inferiority complex, I used to allow
people to bully me all the time, but I've grown to either not give a
crap in most situations now, or to fight back if needed..
Yeah, I sometimes wonder that about trolls and bullies, whether they have an inferiority complex. I've decided not to let that bother me so much, because I know there are plenty more decent people in the world.
someone says something you don't like on a message board just
remember these words of wisdom from The Big Lebowski "I can't be
worried about that shit. Fuck it man, life goes on." Remember that
and you'll be in a much better place :)
Yep. Ain't nobody got time for that.
There are the few out there who are just plain sadistic bullies, who were either abused as children (mainly mentally). Or got to their sad state of mind some other way. and its sad to say, most will NEVER change. because
changed his name to Mro2 (as can be seen in the above quote header) to ge around daryl's twitlisting of Mro...
Ah, I didn't notice that. Well there's always away around. <shrug>
I did notice it...and that's in the twit list as well. And, if I knew
his IP, I'd block it as well.
As one user noted, "he was trolling me". Since I use QWK Mail to
I realize I'm not the administrator of Dove-Net; but for the sake of argument, had I been the administrator of a message network, he would
get banned in a hurry...and I would advise all confirmed Visiting Sysops
of his details.
IMO, he refuses to be courteous to fellow BBS users. His profane
attacks also shows to me that he doesn't believe in "if you would not
say it to your mother, wife, daughter, sister, pastor, etc. -- don't say
it at all"...although I've heard of some females whose "vocabulary"
would make a sailor blush!!. Had I been such a "potty mouth" to my
My late wife could tell someone off, and not have to use one single
word of profanity in doing so. I have very little respect for someone
who has a "potty mouth"...which seems to be the norm in today's world. There's a time and place for everything, and a public BBS echo is not
So many think that for comedy, it has to equate to "the raunchier, the better"...and they feel that a "G" rating for a move is a "death
sentence". Truth be told, you do NOT have to be dirty or vulgar to be funny...the late Red Skelton, Bob Hope, Jack Benny, Groucho Marx, George Burns and Gracie Allen, and more, all proved that to be such. Some of
One can "agree to disagree"...the world would be boring if everyone
and everything was the same. However, he takes it into overdrive.
Re: Why I Run A BBS
By: Daryl Stout to VK3JED on Tue Sep 12 2017 11:33:00
I run my systems for one user - me. If anyone else likes what I'm doing a V>wants to stick around, great, but if they don't, that's fine by me too.
This should be the only reason anyone needs to run a board. I have 3 or 4
The comments left by Mro are often offensive.
The comments left by Mro are often offensive. But what is a member of a message board going to do hundred or thousands of miles away? Remember the old saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?" I think that applies here. If Mro wants to be an asshole, that is his right. If you don't want to see them, filter his messages as needed (including alternate names if he uses them.) The Internet is not a friendly
You could probably do a whois or similar command with this BBS domain and find his IP that way (assuming he usually connects from home, where his external-facing IP address would be the same IP address that his BBS is hosted on). Even just pinging his BBS domain would probably come back with an IP address.
Re: On The Twit List
By: Roadhog to KK4QBN on Fri Sep 15 2017 11:11 am
I don't have a BBS but I am wondering if there is a way to twit you out on my netrunner I will have to research that because I hate reading all your whaaaa whaaaaa self rightous BS.
What ever happenend to your enter key? you know if you don't like a post you can just hit enter and go to the next message, gawd what a moron.
The same goes with you, you can simply go on to the next message rather than calling someone a moron. Responses like this contribute to the troll problem on a message network.
I don't have a BBS but I am wondering if there is a way to twit you
out on my netrunner I will have to research that because I hate [...]
On 2017 Sep 15 11:11:08, you wrote to KK4QBN:
I don't have a BBS but I am wondering if there is a way to twit you
out on my netrunner I will have to research that because I hate [...]
your terminal program won't have the first idea about any twitlist... the BBS you are using, on the other hand, may offer such capability... it is a synchronet system, after all... take a look in your settings area on the BBS and see if you find an option for twits... it may be near the option to have a signature or even where you might provide some information for finger to emit is someone tries to finger you on that system...
You can also do the same.. or tell your sysop to twitlist me.. what
You know, its funny that the BBS that you do not have you happen to be user #3, user slot created around the same time the sysop and guest account were created.. That reinfoces my point that you are just either troll #1, or one of his cronies.. because I've never had any prior issue
i have mr proper twilisted. i can give him a qwk or nntp feed :D
I'm now a part time drug abuse counselor (I do it to give back to the commun that has saved my life) so I do it free for are local judicial court circuit
Looks to me like Mro plays you like a fiddle because you get so upset so easily.
i have mr proper twilisted. i can give him a qwk or nntp feed :D
Still so full of himself that he does'nt realize that has'nt been my handle in 15 years... and he is actually SPEAKING to him self with this message.
MRO and Roadhog is the same person. the sysop of the BBS just
verified that.
Not really that funny, I know the Sysop and was a tester for him when he set it up.
Not that hard to figure out but then for you who knows.
and no I do not know Mro, I just think it's funny that he gets under your thin skin so easily.
Looks to me like Mro plays you like a fiddle because you get so upset so easily.
I'm now a part time drug abuse counselor (I do it to give back to the
commun that has saved my life) so I do it free for are local judicial
court circuit
Great work on getting clean! It's not an easy thing to do. Giving back and helping out those in need is a very noble work. Thank you!! :)
Looks to me like Mro plays you like a fiddle because you get so
upset so easily.
Are you suggesting that KK4QBN is to blame for Mro being an asshole to him? A bit of victim-blaming, it seems.. Rather than blame the target, I think people should just stop being assholes in the first place.
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Still so full of himself that he does'nt realize that has'nt been my
handle in 15 years... and he is actually SPEAKING to him self with
this message.
I have some messages from mrproper from as recent as 2009 and 2016 (the latest being from November 22, 2016 in the Synchronet Discussion area).
Looks to me like Mro plays you like a fiddle because you get so upset so easily.
Are you suggesting that KK4QBN is to blame for Mro being an asshole to him? A bit of victim-blaming, it seems.. Rather than blame the target, I think
I'm better off learning for myself anyway.. I remember when one could pull 60 active systems up on the im list.. now were lucky to see 7.. thats not
because the BBS scene is going away, as a matter of fact, there is a resurgances of users calling BBS'es especialy ham radio operators and many other POT line users.. there is also a resurgance of the ANSI art scene..
but you cannot see any of that here because the infux of dramatic messages that border on the edge of lunacy. I dropped ALL dovnet areas except Synchronet Discussion and the Synchronet programming areas. and I'll be damned if he did'nt follow me into here too..
I don't want to have to drop these areas.. they are my only lifeline to keep up with Synchronets development and newest features. But, I also don't want to have to come in reading a frigging transcript from the daily happenings of a mental insitution either..
And it can be stopped and should be stopped. Did you know the Twitlist feature come about because arguments between myself, Angus Mcleod, and another user.. I don't know where Angus is these days, but he would get very stubborn and bullheaded if you did'nt see something the way he did.. But he was NOTHING like this guy...
I'm better off learning for myself anyway.. I remember when one
could pull 60 active systems up on the im list.. now were lucky to
see 7.. thats not
I just had a look at the Synchronet BBS list (www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html) and it seems there are plenty more than 7 up there. And that's just mainly Synchronet BBSes - There are other online BBS lists that probably include more BBSes.
because the BBS scene is going away, as a matter of fact, there is a
resurgances of users calling BBS'es especialy ham radio operators
and many other POT line users.. there is also a resurgance of the
ANSI art scene..
Yeah, there are a couple of BBS groups I follow on Facebook, and there is ANSI art posted in one or two of them regularly. It definitely seems the scene is still around.
And it can be stopped and should be stopped. Did you know the
Twitlist feature come about because arguments between myself, Angus
Mcleod, and another user.. I don't know where Angus is these days,
but he would get very stubborn and bullheaded if you did'nt see
something the way he did.. But he was NOTHING like this guy...
I didn't realize that.. When was that? I started running Synchronet in 2007 and perhaps that happened before then?
MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
in a loose sense of the word it's a server. anyways, most of us are running a 32 os windows os that suits our bbs and our legacy dos games.
it's cool if you want to emulate the dos environment for your
doorgames, but you are at a disadvange in this situation. i'd suggest running it in a vm on your linux server like i do.
if you're running linux synchronet for its ssh server, email server,
http, etc you are better off using something else.
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I hope you're talking about the original poster.. although I don't run
on a Pi, I'm by far not a windows user.. most of my services run off linux, My IRC server, and POTS server run off an old rusty XP machine
that has better uptime then my linux box does BTW. (upgrades.) My XP machine has been running since before I moved my whole BBS (minus the
irc server, bots and pots server) flawlessly.. it was just a bit too
slow to keep up with the growth of my BBS.
This old tower says "Optimized for AOL" if that tells you anything. I
paid about 2.50 for it at a thrift store and another 2 bucks for the
17" flatscreen monitor.. Now I have dual monitors on my linux box and
the one on the XP machine "Like I really need it.. I only use it to monitor pots connections every now and then). But really.. come one..
why shame someone for what OS they use.. thats like some of these Ham radio operators shaming others for using Chinese radios.. Newsflash people.. the components of all these radios are built on the same
freaking assembly line by the same 5 year old kids in China.. get a
grip.. you just paid 15x more for yours than I did mine.. You're afraid
to use your 400+ dollar ht because it might get dirty.. I'll throw mine
in the mud puddle, pick it up, get shocked (they'll shock whether their wet or not haha.. and keep using it)
Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I release daily builds for linux-x64 too (sbbs_dev.tgz).
Joe Schweier wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
@TZ: 4168
ARRRGH, another Windows user. AFAIK, binaries are only for Windows, I
run on a Pi.
Have you been running Synchronet on a pi?? How's that working out for you??
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
A friend of the family worked for the Little Rock Police Department,
and had stopped by my parents home 20 years ago, and was chatting with
my Dad (he passed away 10 1/2 years ago). I had just gotten home from
work at a silkscreen print shop, when the officer decided to have some
fun with me. Over the bullhorn speaker it was "You in the jeans and
grungy clothes!! Up against the wall and spread them!!". :P
It's like printing a card with directions in ENGLISH on it, and they still can't follow it. Now, I admit that I nearly flunked first grade
for having trouble following directions in school...but at the young
age, I can understand that. These are full grown adults who can't seem
to understand plain English!!
The college was already in trouble with the National Collegiate
Athletic Association (NCAA), the body that governs collegiate sports in the U.S. and its territories. So, when they go before "the committee on infractions", they really are going to have some explaining to do!!
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
That's what I've had to do on some ham radio nets. First, I've been doing nets since I got into the hobby 26 years ago...so, I should know what I'm doing (hi hi). But, without a script, I end up "winging it", trying to go with the format that the net had used.
The shock came when he said "This is WA5NBK. Russell. Downtown Jacksonville. No traffic". I went "Oh, <expeletive!>"...<scribble!> <scribble!> <scribble!> -- so much so, I tore a hole in the log!!
When I met him again, I said "Darn your hide, Russell!!" :P
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Back in the day, one of my othernet colleagues used a "real looking"
alias as his real name on the othernets, and his "real" real name on Fidonet. There came quite a kerfluffle when he was accused by the Fido
NEC of providing an unauthorized Fidonet feed to himself.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I get requests for "Elite File Access" occasionally. One of my menus
has "Elite files" listed without a menu option, the other links the
Elite files option to "hangup".
KK4QBN wrote to Mro <=-
I fully agree.. I feel weird just asking the questions I do ask..
Name
Password
Handle
Location
and write an email with any suggestions, gripes, whatever.. or
NOTHING..
I would'nt want anymore information from anyone.. and the only reason I ask for email is if someone wants to join the mailing list, or if I
need to get updates out to people who call only once a month or so.
Nightfox wrote to KK4QBN <=-
Yeah, I sometimes wonder that about trolls and bullies, whether they
have an inferiority complex. I've decided not to let that bother me so much, because I know there are plenty more decent people in the world.
Captain Kiwi wrote to Daryl Stout <=-
I run my systems for one user - me. If anyone else likes what I'm doing a V>wants to stick around, great, but if they don't, that's fine by me too.
This should be the only reason anyone needs to run a board. I have 3
or 4 regular users and a few that come back every couple of weeks. I
also have some that show up once and never call again. I enjoy having users, but my reasoning for running a board is because I've wanted to
do so since I was a young teenager.
I have found that running my board has helped me connect with some
great people in the Arkansas area. People that I've never thought I
would have any kind of connection and I have "bonded" over tales of the "good ol' days" of LORD, Trade Wars, getting the latest shareware, etc.
When it comes to asking for users personal info; As the SysOp of the board, Daryl has every right to ask for that information. My board however, you're free to do whatever you want (within reason) and may do
so anonymously. The feedback form is available and users are welcome to send me their information, but it's not required to get full user
access.
I'm better off learning for myself anyway.. I remember when one
could pull 60 active systems up on the im list.. now were lucky to
see 7.. thats not
I was speaking of the instant message list..
It appears you came on the scene right as I shut down Warzone BBS, it was around that time when lightening hit my system and I was backing up on CD's at the time, and the backup was no good.. Plus I was right in the middle of the worse part of my active addiction (right before I hit rock bottom).
This should be the only reason anyone needs to run a board. I have 3 or 4 CK>regular users and a few that come back every couple of weeks. I also have s CK>that show up once and never call again. I enjoy having users, but my reason CK>for running a board is because I've wanted to do so since I was a young CK>teenager.
When it comes to asking for users personal info; As the SysOp of the board, CK>Daryl has every right to ask for that information. My board however, you're CK>free to do whatever you want (within reason) and may do so anonymously. CK>The feedback form is available and users are welcome to send me their CK>information, but it's not required to get full user access.
Re: Sex And The Kids
By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 12 2017 11:32:00
when I walked on him one day with those pics on the browser, he told me K>searching for something for minecraft and it came up.. I believe him.. K>him down and explained to him what his father should have.
My girlfriends daughter had the same thing happen while looking up the same CK>thing.
I did notice it...and that's in the twit list as well. And, if I knew his IP, I'd block it as well.
You could probably do a whois or similar command with this BBS domain and fin N>his IP that way (assuming he usually connects from home, where his N>external-facing IP address would be the same IP address that his BBS is hoste N>on). Even just pinging his BBS domain would probably come back with an IP N>address.
Please forgive me if my messages offend anyone.. I'm just trying to help.
Captain Kiwi wrote to KK4QBN <=-
I'm now a part time drug abuse counselor (I do it to give back to the commun that has saved my life) so I do it free for are local judicial court circuit
Great work on getting clean! It's not an easy thing to do. Giving
back and helping out those in need is a very noble work. Thank you!!
Nightfox wrote to KK4QBN <=-
I just had a look at the Synchronet BBS list (www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html) and it seems there are plenty more than
7 up there. And that's just mainly Synchronet BBSes - There are other online BBS lists that probably include more BBSes.
It was not so much about the OS people use, more about the assumption that because one is running an OS (most commonly Windows for reasons of convenience, since the installed base of compilers is much smaller proportionally) for which a precompiled version is available for download. It's those blind assumptions that annoy me more. I don't care what OS people use, just don't assume I'm using the same or that upgrade and other paths are the same! :)
Cool, good to know, if I ever change architecture (such as move to a VPS). But I run on a Pi at the moment. Daily builds for the Pi would be nice (especially as I run on a 1B), but I understand why they might not be available. :)
I'm better off learning for myself anyway.. I remember when one
could pull 60 active systems up on the im list.. now were lucky to
see 7.. thats not
I was speaking of the instant message list..
Ah, the inter-BBS message list? I thought that was a pretty cool feature when I started using Synchronet. I've been wondering why there are so few BBSes on that list and how that list is generated.
I ran a BBS in the 90s, but I took it down in 2000. I didn't get back into BBSing until 2007, when I saw Jason Scott's documentary "BBS: The Documentary", and I was curious how many BBSes were running online and was inspired to start a BBS again. I am a little surprised I had not heard of Synchronet before 2007, but I don't remember there being any BBSes in my area using Synchronet in the 90s..
Those were great times years ago...I loved those face to face user and Sysop meetings. It was fun putting faces to names. I remember at one gathering at a (now former) Denny's Restaurant, one (now former) Sysop opened up his case, and pulled out a fancy laptop computer. All the conversation in the room STOPPED, and all eyes GRAVITATED to the
I run my BBS my way...and others run their BBS their way...and that's
fine with me. I know my BBS is not the only one in existence...but each BBS is run "for the Sysop" in many cases. Plus, I had promised my late wife that I'd continue the BBS in her memory, if she died first...which
is exactly what happened.
In a word, oops. :P
The next thing will be the dogs and cats are looking up canine and
kitty porn -- but the animals are naturally nude, anyway. Yet, I've seen several instances where folks "dress their dogs and cats to the hilt"
for various things (including a "wedding"). The look on the animals'
faces are like "get this crap off of me, before I rip it to shreds!!".
As for the comments of bullying, etc., it's sad there are so many of
these in the world nowadays (i.e. the school bullying, then suicides
on Facebook).
My parents taught me that "if you can't say something nice, don't say
it at all"...but you're right...these "bullies" have to "have the last word". Plus, if I talked to my parents the way he responds in the
majority of his messages, I wouldn't be here today!!
Then, when you tell these people that "Life Isn't Burger King -- you
can't always 'Have It Your Way'...they really get offended. I can say that, though...I worked for them nearly 40 years ago.
Speaking of which, I absolutely *LOVE* their new Rodeo King sandwich!! It's like a "Double Whopper With Cheese"...but it has bacon, onion
rings, barbeque sauce, and mayonnaise on it. I just hope this isn't a "temporary promotional item".
I also love their 10 piece chicken nuggets. Unlike Wendy's and
McDonald's, the burgers are "flame broiled", and not swimming in grease.
back and helping out those in need is a very noble work. Thank
you!!
My hat goes off to anyone who's battled their demons and is now using that to do good. Kudos to KK4QBN. :)
I don't think I've got around to putting myself up there.
... Aha! Another "undocumented feature"!
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Yeay, you would probably be the rare exeception that would need to
build your own, but as DM stated there are binaries for both windows
and linux, and if I'm not mistaken the whole reasone wer were even speaking of prebuilt binaries was because someone running windows
(maybe Daryl) was asking about upgrading but did'nt want ot build his
own src.. I might be way off on this though because I've processed a
lot of messages lately (most of it not worth the bits it took to write
it) :-)
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Build them daily and offer them yourself?! :-)
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Thank you both! It still helps to keep me clean also though, so it is
for me too :)
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Just jump into the SBL door..
... Aha! Another "undocumented feature"!
in 2017? better build a wall around it!
Somewhere the issue of me upgrading did come up, and the fact I have to compile it. Pre-built binaries would be nice, given the lengthy compile time on the Pi 1B
Build them daily and offer them yourself?! :-)
Which brings me back to my original problem - compilation time! :( Now, if I had a Pi 3, or if I could cross compile for the Pi on an x86 host, then it might be feasible. :)
Just jump into the SBL door..
Yeah I did look it up at some stage, just never got round to it lol
... Aha! Another "undocumented feature"!
in 2017? better build a wall around it!
:D
Have you been running Synchronet on a pi?? How's that working out fo you??
Yes, for almost 2 years. Runs very well. :) I don't have any DOS doors to run, only native JS ones.
it's cool if you want to emulate the dos environment for your doorgames, but you are at a disadvange in this situation. i'd suggest running it in a vm on your linux server like i do.
I'm not running any doors locally, but I am using BBSLink as a remote door server.
Nightfox wrote to KK4QBN <=-
Yeah, I sometimes wonder that about trolls and bullies, whether they have an inferiority complex. I've decided not to let that bother me so much, because I know there are plenty more decent people in the world.
Yeah, I just use the twit filter between my ears, that one is _much_ harder to get around. ;) I'm here for fun, not for a fight, though I can look after myself too.
version... I di not know enough to know what that means... When I et Mystic up under windwos and couldn't get any doors to work... the author called me a troll and said I was out to trash him and his software.... I fixed my door issue by setting up SBBS as a door server and had mystic log in to Synchronet in order to run games.
that's too bad. i checked it out again the other day and it still looks pretty mediocre. lord game doesnt even have any igms.
part of what makes a bbs good is putting work into it. if you just use shortcuts like these door servers, it cheapens the feel.
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I'm getting me a PI sometime soon.. I already have a bunch of Arduino boards with atmega chip (tons can be done with them). I bash
successfully runnig on my Wii, I wonder if it's possible to build SBBS
on the Wii.. seems far fetched :)
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
AH, gotcha now... time for another pie :)
Send me all your BBS stats and I'll be happy to add it for you, DMs JS version of the SBL should be close to being completed. Its all going to
be in one file :)
I have aquired a free Ibook g4 (I beleive) I think its a G4.. ppc.. it
has issues and I cannot get MacOS to install back onto it... I'm
seriously thinking of installing ubuntu mate or something to it.. looks like it's gonna be a pita.
IB JOE wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Good to know.... I am not a linux user, just learning, Mystic BBS has a
pi version... I di not know enough to know what that means... When I
et Mystic up under windwos and couldn't get any doors to work... the author called me a troll and said I was out to trash him and his software.... I fixed my door issue by setting up SBBS as a door server
and had mystic log in to Synchronet in order to run games.
Great news for the BBS community and linux users... %JoHo%, the author
of Frontdoor is back in the mix and he's working on a possible linux version of FD...
MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
that's too bad. i checked it out again the other day and it still looks pretty mediocre. lord game doesnt even have any igms.
part of what makes a bbs good is putting work into it. if you just use shortcuts like these door servers, it cheapens the feel.
MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
in the real world if someone is fucking with you, you turn it back on them. i've even had to do that after becoming an adult. in the
workplace you cant always knock out your coworker, but there's more
than one way to skin a cat.
today online, people use the word troll just as a label for someone
that they disagree with. that's incorrect. a troll is someone who says something they do not mean and tries to stir up a reaction. they
sit back and laugh while people freak out.
KK4QBN wrote to MRO <=-
Along with tons of other stuff.. I'm working on a shell right now that will work liek more of a RPG instead of a menuing system to get around
the BBS. so goto external, message, file, and other areas one will need
to follow a story mode type rpg.. maybe even give them ways to interact with each other, fight, and do other things..
MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
that's too bad. i checked it out again the other day and it still looks pretty mediocre. lord game doesnt even have any igms.
There's others out there.
in the real world if someone is fucking with you, you turn it back on them. i've even had to do that after becoming an adult. in the workplace you cant always knock out your coworker, but there's more than one way to skin a cat.
Summarised as "please don't feed the trolls". :)
What OS were/are you running Mystic under? Regardless of BBS software, you have to use either Windows 32 bit (64 bit won't work), or Linux on a PC with DOSemu to be able to run DOS doors. Yes, Synchronet does make a great door server, and it has a few tricks that make it easier to run
DOS doors under it. I haven't tried doing that myself yet, could be an interesting side project.
Arduino is on my purchase list, just haven't got around to it yet. They look like a lot of fun to play with. :) Hmm, SBBS on a Wii, that's novel. :)
Cool, thanks, though it's easier if I have direct interaction with the script, open ended recall is a slow and inefficient process for me.
I... for the life of me cannot get doors, I got 1 or 2 to work... but I mean none of the ones I like. And I spent hours trying to get them to work.
Problem solved. Author called me a trole.... I honestly wanted themm to work and I honestly put in the hours in effort and could not get them to work.
BTW, my VM crashed and took everything out... bought a raspbarry pi 3 to have some fun and learn... I know nothing about linux... Installed the software
and I'm playing around with it.
I tried to install the linux version of SBBS today and couldn't get it to go... at least this time I know its me.
At some point in the future I will learn how to install SBBS and I'll start to play with the linux version
It's like printing a card with directions in ENGLISH on it, and they still can't follow it. Now, I admit that I nearly flunked first grade for having trouble following directions in school...but at the young age, I can understand that. These are full grown adults who can't seem to understand plain English!!
Oh, that's like working in tech support. :)
... I got a new shadow. My last shadow wasn't doing what I was doing.
Hahahaha I'll keep that in mind <evil grin> ;) (like many hams here, I hold TL>multiple callsigns ;) ).
Just like hamfests, usuakky when you finally see the face behind the name, K>handle, callsign, or voice, it is not what you expected.. I don't know why we K>tend to create expectations of people appearance just by the way they type or K>talk.. very strange.
Exactly.. people should'nt be taunted for running the BBS the way they want, K>my case I try to run the system to give the users what they ask for.. if I K>possibly can.. but I also run it for myself too.. It's a great side hobby..
I'm afraid of height too, the coasters (even some of the highest) dont bother K>me because I know they're coming straight down.. but you'll never catch me K>bungee jumping or taking a dive out of a perfectly good airplane :)
SO very true... these "keyboard warriors" are just that.. they do this behind K>their keyboard, but I guarantee if you were face to face with one they would' K>even look at you, they would hang their head to the ground and scurry away.
Same here.. I can tell you some very creative ways I used to get my whoopings
Lol, I was the nightshift manager at burgerking a good many years ago, and ju K>about had all my family and friends working there. the owner of that particul K>frachise loved it because we all worked together so well.
Wow.. that sounds like you would need to take some pipe cleaners through your K>arteries to clean out the cholesterol after one sitting.
I still cannot really eat there too much just because I worked there and eat K>just about every day. same goes for any other eatery I've ever worked at..
What I loved about working there though, even though we kept that store so K>clean one could eat off the floor, on the weekends it would get so busy at K>night that our broiler would ALWAYS catch fire at peak hours. we'd have to pu K>it out with an extinguisher, break it down, wash it, put it back together and K>fire it up again. we got so good that we could break it down in less than 10 K>minutes with it still flaming hot.
I would get customers who would come up and tell me thats the whole reason th K>come on peak hours on weekend nights is to just catch the fire show.. and wat K>the customers who did'nt know that it occured frequently at peak hours freak K>out over it and just about evacuate the store... HAHAHA some good ol times..
anyway.. think I've gotton way off topic here.. this no longer has anything a K>all to do with SBBS :)
Besides the BBS and ham radio, I square dance. So, I have 3 hobbies to keep me busy. Now, if there are storms outside, I just shut things off, and go take a nap. However, it isn't for beauty's sake...I gave that up long ago -- and no comments from the peanut gallery!! <G>
The preacher said "Well, I'm sorry...I can't marry you two".
To which the young man replied "I can't say that I blame you. The
reason th come on peak hours on weekend nights is to just catch the
fire show.. and wat the customers who did'nt know that it occured
frequently at peak hours freak out over it and just about evacuate the
store... HAHAHA some good ol times..
I'm sure the Fire Department made frequent visits to your restaurant.
MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
no, you confront people if you have a problem with them and you fix the problem one way or another. in the end you might make a friend or
atleast help someone.
IB JOE wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I get where you're going... I had a windows XP 32bit VM setup.... I can get any door... what-so-ever, to work under SBBS, or any other BBS
package for that matter... I also have a copy of WINServer, Wild Cat 5
on hand as well. I have been a SysOp since 1991....
I ended up setting SBBS up as a door server and had Mystic log into
that.. Problem solved. Author called me a trole.... I honestly wanted themm to work and I honestly put in the hours in effort and could not
get them to work.
BTW, my VM crashed and took everything out... bought a raspbarry pi 3
to have some fun and learn... I know nothing about linux... Installed
the software and I'm playing around with it.
I tried to install the linux version of SBBS today and couldn't get it
to go... at least this time I know its me.
At some point in the future I will learn how to install SBBS and I'll start to play with the linux version
Thank you for your interest!!
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Well, have a working linux base system un the Wii, believe that is the
os for it anyway (Gentoo I believe... Might be wrong) but with my
current softmod, I have a bash prompt with internet connectivity,
keyboard and mouse works. dunno what type of processor is in it though without looking it up.. probably arm.
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
open the syncdata conference up and read how the messages are formatted and straight type one up I presume.. the sbbslist script is in CVS now,
I believe it resides in the exec dir.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
The examples that come to mind are:
1) When the computer said it couldn't find the printer, the woman shook the printer in front of her monitor, and screamed "HERE IT IS!! WHY
CAN'T YOU SEE IT??!!" <G>
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
The thing is...with ham radio operators...our first name is our first name. Our last name is our callsign. We have no clue what the last name
of fellow hams is!! <G>
Daryl Stout wrote to KK4QBN <=-
Besides the BBS and ham radio, I square dance. So, I have 3 hobbies
to keep me busy. Now, if there are storms outside, I just shut things
off, and go take a nap. However, it isn't for beauty's sake...I gave
that up long ago -- and no comments from the peanut gallery!! <G>
I'm afraid of height too, the coasters (even some of the highest) dontother
me because I know they're coming straight down.. but you'll never catch me
bungee jumping or taking a dive out of a perfectly good airplane :)
I don't even like getting on a stepstool to change the battery in the smoke detector.
KK4QBN wrote to Daryl Stout <=-
You would'nt catch me doing any type of dancing.. my coordination is
all sorts of messed up and I would end up stomping everyones feet and
then end up barfing on them from vertigo. BUt if there is a storm outside, and I can be I'm usually out in it, looking at the awesome
power of it, watching the cloud formations, etc.. I always get an energized feeling out in storms.. probably all the positivly charged
ions floating around.. makes the hairs on my arms stand up as if I was holding a static charged balloon over my arm.
my current softmod, I have a bash prompt with internet connectivity,
keyboard and mouse works. dunno what type of processor is in it
though without looking it up.. probably arm.
Shuld be able to do a uname -a to find the architecture.
open the syncdata conference up and read how the messages are
formatted and straight type one up I presume.. the sbbslist script
is in CVS now, I believe it resides in the exec dir.
I have that conference in my QWK packets, but wasn't sure what was going on there.
power of it, watching the cloud formations, etc.. I always get an
energized feeling out in storms.. probably all the positivly charged
ions floating around.. makes the hairs on my arms stand up as if I
was holding a static charged balloon over my arm.
Hmm, trying to get zapped? ;)
Ah, the inter-BBS message list? I thought that was a pretty cool
feature when I started using Synchronet. I've been wondering why
there are so few BBSes on that list and how that list is generated.
I believe all system who are running the instant messenger are still polled on udp ports nightly by Robs system, a list is distrubuted and sent around to all the BBS systems. then when you use it it parses the list and probes the UDP ports for available system.. most of the time there is no one on there..
I had a cool setup in the 90s when I was in my teens, was the local fidonet hub, we had planet connect satellite downling for fidonet and had to call chattanooga nightly for the uplink. ended up getting ISDN, so it did make the mail calls a bit cheaper. but before that I ended up having 3 lines running into the house :) This was all before the internet was available around here.. don't think it became available until 96 or so, and that was a deathblow to all the BBS systems.. I actually had a great many paying subscribers too..
That sounds pretty cool. I never had a big BBS setup, just one line, and my BBS was free (I got plenty of callers but never really felt like I could justify charging a subscription for it). I eventually did set up DESQView so I could try running a separate local node so I could log in locally while someone was on my BBS though, and it was cool to at least learn how a multi-node BBS setup worked in DOS, even though I only had one BBS phone line.
The internet did seem like a death blow to BBSes, which was the main reason I took my original BBS down in 2000. It wasn't getting many callers anymore, and at the time I figured probably nobody would want to call a BBS anymore now that the internet was widely available. I had heard of telnet BBSes, but for a while I didn't think anyone would want to use a telnet BBS when they have internet access. But later (2007) I found that telnet BBSes still existed and people do call them, so I decided to start running a BBS again. It might not be quite the same as it used to be, but
Re: On The Twit List
By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Sun Sep 17 2017 04:36 am
Ah, the inter-BBS message list? I thought that was a pretty cool
feature when I started using Synchronet. I've been wondering why
there are so few BBSes on that list and how that list is generated.
I believe all system who are running the instant messenger are still polled on udp ports nightly by Robs system, a list is distrubuted and sent around to all the BBS systems. then when you use it it parses the list and probes the UDP ports for available system.. most of the time there is no one on there..
What instant messenger do you have to run? I don't recall reading about that. I thought the Synchronet instant messenger ran over SMTP or something.. And I know a lot of ISPs block port 25 (the incoming SMTP port), and that can be an issue. Unless I'm thinking of something else..
You would'nt catch me doing any type of dancing.. my coordination is all sort K>of messed up and I would end up stomping everyones feet and then end up barfi K>on them from vertigo. BUt if there is a storm outside, and I can be I'm K>usually out in it, looking at the awesome power of it, watching the cloud K>formations, etc.. I always get an energized feeling out in storms.. probably K>all the positivly charged ions floating around.. makes the hairs on my arms K>stand up as if I was holding a static charged balloon over my arm.
Lol.. that was a good one, dunno why my editor cut the last of your sentence K>off, it usually don't do that, but it got the point across..
I don't even like getting on a stepstool to change the battery in the smoke detector.
Haha, I race up 20 foot ladders for fun. :D
... Beam a large pepperoni pizza to these coordinates.
No actually they did'nt.. it happened at peak hours from thursay - saturday, K>and we always put it put fairly quickly, plus the broiler had the large fire K>hood over it anyway with exhaust and a fire suppresant system that actually K>never activated (kinda made me wonder if it even worked) must have needed a K>certain amount of heat to turn it on, it would use C02 and baking soda just a K>our extinguisers did.. we did have to get our 50 pound fire extinguiser K>refilled on a weekly basis though.. never had to worry about it failing K>inspection.. man that store stayed busy.. and he had 2 in Dalton, now there i K>a 3rd less than 15 miles away in Chatswort..
Thats like Zaxbys.. there are 4 in Dalton all within 3-5 LOS miles, and one i K>chatsworth around 10 miles away from them.
Well.. not really.. when the lightening gets close enough I do go inside.. K>after a while you lean how it all works and where it is and will be..
the only thing that scares me with storms is wind.. especially straight line. K>theres not predecting those.
yep, thats how SBL and the match makr data is passed.. don't know if anything K>else flows through there anymore.. I don't know for sure but think SMM is now K>obsolete also..
too many grinder apps, etc out for a BBS matcmaker app to be of any relevence K>:)
I did notice it...and that's in the twit list as well. And, if I
knew his IP, I'd block it as well.
He'll more than likely need to ad the IP of outwest BBS also, because he is posting as Roadhog (90% guarantee) also.
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Shuld be able to do a uname -a to find the architecture.
I will try that, I know I'm wrong with Gentoo I believe.. but It's a
specialized OS for the wii, but it is linux based.. able to have bash
on there because the softmod.. I'll look into that further later on.. still have too many things to catch up with her on the BBS.
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
open the syncdata conference up and read how the messages are
formatted and straight type one up I presume.. the sbbslist script
is in CVS now, I believe it resides in the exec dir.
I have that conference in my QWK packets, but wasn't sure what was going on there.
yep, thats how SBL and the match makr data is passed.. don't know if anything else flows through there anymore.. I don't know for sure but think SMM is now obsolete also..
too many grinder apps, etc out for a BBS matcmaker app to be of any relevence :)
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
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Re: Re: Why I Run A BBS
By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 2017 20:28:00
power of it, watching the cloud formations, etc.. I always get an
energized feeling out in storms.. probably all the positivly charged
ions floating around.. makes the hairs on my arms stand up as if I
was holding a static charged balloon over my arm.
Hmm, trying to get zapped? ;)
Well.. not really.. when the lightening gets close enough I do go
inside.. after a while you lean how it all works and where it is and
will be..
the only thing that scares me with storms is wind.. especially straight line.. theres not predecting those.
Nightfox wrote to KK4QBN <=-
That sounds pretty cool. I never had a big BBS setup, just one line,
and my BBS was free (I got plenty of callers but never really felt like
I could justify charging a subscription for it). I eventually did set
up DESQView so I could try running a separate local node so I could log
in locally while someone was on my BBS though, and it was cool to at
least learn how a multi-node BBS setup worked in DOS, even though I
only had one BBS phone line.
The internet did seem like a death blow to BBSes, which was the main reason I took my original BBS down in 2000. It wasn't getting many callers anymore, and at the time I figured probably nobody would want
to call a BBS anymore now that the internet was widely available. I
had heard of telnet BBSes, but for a while I didn't think anyone would want to use a telnet BBS when they have internet access. But later
(2007) I found that telnet BBSes still existed and people do call them,
so I decided to start running a BBS again. It might not be quite the
same as it used to be, but my BBS still gets callers and I enjoy
running it.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Haha, I race up 20 foot ladders for fun. :D
Braggert. <G>
... Beam a large pepperoni pizza to these coordinates.
I'd rather have ground beef, extra chese, and sweet onion. :)
Daryl Stout wrote to KK4QBN <=-
I'm reminded of a bizarre cartoon I saw on Facebook. This guy was in
an "adult store" (sex videos, supplies, etc.) -- and he wanted "to purchase the large red dildo on the wall". He was sternly told "That is not for sale. That's our Fire extinguisher. You'll have to find
something else"!! <BG>
I'm reminded of a bizarre cartoon I saw on Facebook. This guy was in an "adult store" (sex videos, supplies, etc.) -- and he wanted "to purchase the large red dildo on the wall". He was sternly told "That is not for sale. That's our Fire extinguisher. You'll have to find something else"!! <BG>
There's a similar joke where a guy stood in for the shop owner on a quiet da TL>while the owner ran errands. But he got a few sales - the first was someone TL>who wanted the 6" model. The next wanted the 10" black model, and then the TL>third wanted the tartan "Scots special". When the owner came back, he asked TL>how things were, and the reply was "I got $10 for the standard model, $30 fo TL>the big black one, and $80 for your thermos!" :D
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
open the syncdata conference up and read how the messages are
formatted and straight type one up I presume.. the sbbslist script
is in CVS now, I believe it resides in the exec dir.
CVS suggests it's a 3.17 thing, or am I wrong?
What's even more confusing is that the process that creating the nightly sbbsimsg.lst file on Vertrauen verified instant-message capable systems by checking if they supported SMTP and UDP-Finger (rather than MSP/SYSTAT)for
a long time. So a system had to support both the old protocols and the "new" protocols in order to be listed in sbbsimsg.lst. That should befixed
now, but some lingering Finger/SMTP support remains (e.g. in exec/sbbsimsg.js) and that still needs cleaning up.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
Her boss asks what she has in it, and the blond replies "Vegetable
Soup and Ice Cream"!! :P
I don't think I'd have the heart to put a blond on a twit list...they provide too much comedy relief. ;)
Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I can't think of any reason of the top of my head why the new (still in-progress) sbbslist (exec/sbbslist.js) wouldn't run on v3.16. There might be something in the JS object model (in v3.17+) that it uses that I'm not thinking of. It might just work.
I have been playing with trying to update the windows vewrsion of SBBS. I downloaded a file that had all the exe directgory, I think I did anyway.... I'm getting an error everytime I go to read a message though... Something about a bin file for Avitars not being in the exec directory.
I do not know how to compile programs... what is the easiest way to update SBBS to it's current version??
Re: SBBS Updates
By: IB Joe to All on Sun Oct 28 2018 10:24:10
I have been playing with trying to update the windows vewrsion of SBBS. I
downloaded a file that had all the exe directgory, I think I did
anyway.... I'm getting an error everytime I go to read a message
though...
Something about a bin file for Avitars not being in the exec directory.
I do not know how to compile programs... what is the easiest way to
update
SBBS to it's current version??
Downloading the build archive (sbbs_dev.zip) is one step.
Updating scripts etc
is another:
http://wiki.synchro.net/install:dev
See Step 4. You can overwrite any .js stuff in your
exec/ and exec/load/
directories assuming you haven't modified anything in
there. If you do have
customizations in there, they should be copied to mods/.
Be careful when it comes to updating files anywhere else
(text/, ctrl/) as you
don't want to overwrite your own customizations or
config.
I muddled through step 4... ran jsexec update and I still have an issue with the BBS looking for a bin file related to avitars.
Re: SBBS Updates
By: Joe Schweier to echicken on Sun Oct 28 2018 20:24:28
I muddled through step 4... ran jsexec update and I still have an
issue with the BBS looking for a bin file related to avitars.
If possible, please share the actual error message. (Always.)
Does the file 'exec/avatars.js' exist on your system?
I muddled through step 4... ran jsexec update and I still have an
issue with the BBS looking for a bin file related to avitars.
Does the file 'exec/avatars.js' exist on your system?
Nope, and I fixed things kinda sorta... I have had a working copy of SBBS
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