• ecwebv4

    From Ace@VERT/TWODUDES to All on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 22:20:57
    Howdy all!

    Due to one of those "All your files are encrypted, send us money" viruses that are going around, I lost everything on my BBS.

    I'm doing a clean install of 3.17a, and also ecwebv4. I was previously using ecwebv4 with no issues, however I can't get the ftelnet box to show up anymore. Ports are still forwarded, and I've made the adjustments per the instructions at the echicken github as directed. Can anybody give me some suggestions?

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  • From Richard Williamson@VERT/RICHARDF to Ace on Thursday, July 06, 2017 00:41:40
    probley missing the ftelnet.min.js file in web/ftelnet grab it from here http://embed.ftelnet.ca/ftelnet/ftelnet.min.js

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Ace on Thursday, July 06, 2017 02:27:31
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Ace to All on Wed Jul 05 2017 22:20:57

    Due to one of those "All your files are encrypted, send us money" viruses that are going around, I lost everything on my BBS.

    Whats that called, the Cry your ASS off bot.



    I'm doing a clean install of 3.17a, and also ecwebv4. I was previously using ecwebv4 with no issues, however I can't get the ftelnet box to show up anymore. Ports are still forwarded, and I've made the adjustments per


    Thats a new one onme,


    the instructions at the echicken gi
    thub as directed. Can anybody give me
    some suggestions?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Thursday, July 06, 2017 09:31:15
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: KK4QBN to Ace on Thu Jul 06 2017 02:27 am

    Due to one of those "All your files are encrypted, send us money"
    viruses that are going around, I lost everything on my BBS.

    Whats that called, the Cry your ASS off bot.

    There's more than one virus that does that. The general name for that type of thing is 'ransomware'.

    Nightfox

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  • From Deepthaw@VERT/DS94 to Nightfox on Thursday, July 06, 2017 13:42:40
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Thu Jul 06 2017 09:31 am

    Re: ecwebv4
    By: KK4QBN to Ace on Thu Jul 06 2017 02:27 am

    Due to one of those "All your files are encrypted, send us money"
    viruses that are going around, I lost everything on my BBS.

    Whats that called, the Cry your ASS off bot.

    There's more than one virus that does that. The general name for that type of thing is 'ransomware'.

    The ironic thing is the the level of customer service they offer. They may be criminals, but their goal is to get money from you, so if it became known the ransom was worthless, it'd wreck their business model.

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  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Thursday, July 06, 2017 13:13:21
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Thu Jul 06 2017 09:31 am

    Due to one of those "All your files are encrypted, send us money"
    viruses that are going around, I lost everything on my BBS.

    Whats that called, the Cry your ASS off bot.

    There's more than one virus that does that. The general name for that type of thing is 'ransomware'.

    Usually you have to fall for a scam to get those like clicking a link in your email or on a webpage.

    "... He's dead Jim. You take his phaser, I'll take his wallet!"

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Deepthaw on Thursday, July 06, 2017 13:22:16
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Deepthaw to Nightfox on Thu Jul 06 2017 01:42 pm

    There's more than one virus that does that. The general name for
    that type of thing is 'ransomware'.

    The ironic thing is the the level of customer service they offer. They may be criminals, but their goal is to get money from you, so if it became known the ransom was worthless, it'd wreck their business model.

    If you think about it though, your files should never just randomly be encrypted. You shouldn't have to pay someone else to decrypt your own files. Only you should be in possession of any password for your own files, and the fact that someone else has the password (and you don't) should make it seem fishy. These people "kindly" offering to decrypt your files for a fee aren't doing you a service..

    Nightfox

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  • From Ace@VERT/TWODUDES to Richard Williamson on Thursday, July 06, 2017 17:13:10
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Richard Williamson to Ace on Thu Jul 06 2017 12:41 am

    http://embed.ftelnet.ca/ftelnet/ftelnet.min.js

    I got that. Put it where it goes, and I can get the telnet box to show up now, but when I hit "Connect" nothing happens on the webpage. On the BBS side of things i'm getting this:
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet connection accepted from: **.**.***.*** port 60712
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet JavaScript service thread started
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: GET / HTTP/1.1
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: Host: bbs.twodudesmedia.com:1123
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: Connection: Upgrade
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: Pragma: no-cache
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: Cache-Control: no-cache
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: Upgrade: websocket
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: Origin: http://bbs.twodudesmedia.com
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: Sec-WebSocket-Version: 13
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/59.0.3071.115 Safari/537.36
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: DNT: 1
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: Cookie: _ga=GA1.2.13477661.1489201786; synchronet=1,0qEoba3DV6hl65pPr19DResLiPhNikt9Eplng6Vy3EEt9dd91TR3sMKTTWaFEE9LOM z9oEwJsBoMf4yOIFlJtNwzrS3kk7LQdNVwRgNZkXn7S23h8H1iibJn84AKOxbwsRGXoPmZnp2As7QUR taK5P94xQLWp3G7pNGfk8sG367T8ZTinc9WuOOwvZl3
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: Sec-WebSocket-Key: ktLzkSsaso+RJdJ5PM2c5w==
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: Sec-WebSocket-Extensions: permessage-deflate; client_max_window_bits
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line: Sec-WebSocket-Protocol: binary, base64, plain
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet Handshake Line:
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 WebSocketTelnet service thread terminated (0 clients remain, 0 total, 2 served)
    7/6 05:10:21p 2116 !ERROR 38 closing socket


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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Thursday, July 06, 2017 17:00:25
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Thu Jul 06 2017 09:31:15

    Whats that called, the Cry your ASS off bot.

    There's more than one virus that does that. The general name for that type of thing is 'ransomware'.

    Yup.. and it's mostly hitting police departments and other government agencies that should'nt be engaging in whatever they are doing to get ahold of that virus in the first place.

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  • From Ace@VERT/TWODUDES to Nightfox on Thursday, July 06, 2017 17:23:26
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to Deepthaw on Thu Jul 06 2017 01:22 pm

    If you think about it though, your files should never just randomly be encrypted. You shouldn't have to pay someone else to decrypt your own files. Only you should be in possession of any password for your own files, and the fact that someone else has the password (and you don't) should make it seem fishy. These people "kindly" offering to decrypt your files for a fee aren't doing you a service..

    Nightfox

    A. I don't think you quite understand how these hacks work. Do a quick google search of "WannaCry", "Petya", or "CryptoLocker". The users files are encrypted using private cryptographic keys to lock and unlock the files. The end user is unable to just use a password to access their files.

    I'm generally pretty safe in my browsing habbits, and the computer that was affected is only used for the BBS, so I'm not exactly sure how it happened. Several people have mentioned it could have been the SMB Exploit, but that brings me to point B.

    B. We're getting side tracked off the real issue :)


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  • From Deepthaw@VERT/DS94 to Nightfox on Thursday, July 06, 2017 16:46:17
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to Deepthaw on Thu Jul 06 2017 01:22 pm

    If you think about it though, your files should never just randomly be encrypted. You shouldn't have to pay someone else to decrypt your own files. Only you should be in possession of any password for your own files, and the fact that someone else has the password (and you don't) should make it seem fishy. These people "kindly" offering to decrypt your files for a fee aren't doing you a service..

    Oh, they're definitely criminals committing extortion. It's just that they also offer good customer service.

    It'd be like if the Mob ran a protection racket but burned down your shop even when you paid. Nobody'd pay them anymore.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Ace on Friday, July 07, 2017 08:29:00
    Ace wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I'm generally pretty safe in my browsing habbits, and the computer that was affected is only used for the BBS, so I'm not exactly sure how it happened. Several people have mentioned it could have been the SMB Exploit, but that brings me to point B.

    I think Wannacry is one piece of ransomeware that can exploit the SMB vulnerability. Would have a hard time finding that one with my BBSs, they run Linux and Samba isn't running, so no SMB to exploit.

    B. We're getting side tracked off the real issue :)

    Nature of the beast. :D


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Deepthaw on Friday, July 07, 2017 08:30:00
    Deepthaw wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Oh, they're definitely criminals committing extortion. It's just that
    they also offer good customer service.

    Until the authorities get their email address shut down. :)


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Thursday, July 06, 2017 17:07:05
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Thu Jul 06 2017 05:00 pm

    Whats that called, the Cry your ASS off bot.

    There's more than one virus that does that. The general name for
    that type of thing is 'ransomware'.

    Yup.. and it's mostly hitting police departments and other government agencies that should'nt be engaging in whatever they are doing to get ahold of that virus in the first place.

    Yeah, I've heard of places being infected by ransomware recently. People should be more careful about what they click on in the emails they get.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ace on Thursday, July 06, 2017 17:08:58
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Ace to Nightfox on Thu Jul 06 2017 05:23 pm

    If you think about it though, your files should never just randomly be
    encrypted. You shouldn't have to pay someone else to decrypt your own
    files. Only you should be in possession of any password for your own

    A. I don't think you quite understand how these hacks work. Do a quick google search of "WannaCry", "Petya", or "CryptoLocker". The users files are encrypted using private cryptographic keys to lock and unlock the files. The end user is unable to just use a password to access their files.

    I understand they use cryptographic keys. But I believe often times a password is a cryptographic key? Or maybe not..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Deepthaw on Thursday, July 06, 2017 17:10:25
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Deepthaw to Nightfox on Thu Jul 06 2017 04:46 pm

    Oh, they're definitely criminals committing extortion. It's just that they also offer good customer service.

    It'd be like if the Mob ran a protection racket but burned down your shop even when you paid. Nobody'd pay them anymore.

    All people need to do with their files is to keep backups. It's unfortunate that people have to think about doing that and spend time doing it, but these people are out there, and there really is no good reason to have to send them money.

    Nightfox

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Friday, July 07, 2017 11:51:00
    Nightfox wrote to Deepthaw <=-

    All people need to do with their files is to keep backups. It's

    Yes, that would totally negate the impact of ransomware.


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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Thursday, July 06, 2017 22:28:32
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to Deepthaw on Thu Jul 06 2017 13:22:16

    If you think about it though, your files should never just randomly be encrypted. You shouldn't have to pay someone else to decrypt your own files. Only you should be in possession of any password for your own files, and the fact that someone else has the password (and you don't) should make it seem fishy. These people "kindly" offering to decrypt your files for a fee aren't doing you a service..

    same exact comparison with virus scanners.. I swear.. if virus scanners did'nt exist, I truly believe virii would'nt exist.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Thursday, July 06, 2017 20:42:09
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Thu Jul 06 2017 10:28 pm

    same exact comparison with virus scanners.. I swear.. if virus scanners did'nt exist, I truly believe virii would'nt exist.

    eh? What's your reasoning? Virus scanners exist to protect people from viruses..

    Nightfox

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  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Thursday, July 06, 2017 20:57:25
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to Deepthaw on Thu Jul 06 2017 01:22 pm

    There's more than one virus that does that. The general name for
    that type of thing is 'ransomware'.
    If you think about it though, your files should never just randomly be encrypted. You shouldn't have to pay someone else to decrypt your own files. Only you should be in possession of any password for your own files, and the fact that someone else has the password (and you don't) should make it seem fishy. These people "kindly" offering to decrypt your files for a fee aren't doing you a service..

    Makes a good case for backing up your BBS once in a while, I backmine up once a month or so.
    My BBS Computer has the os and BBS related stuff and I backup to a protected 1 terabye HD attached to my router, the most they could do is cripple me for a few hours and most of that time would be reinstalling windows.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DENN GRAY on Friday, July 07, 2017 01:53:00
    Denn,

    Usually you have to fall for a scam to get those like clicking a link in you DG>email or on a webpage.

    P.T. Barnum was right..."there's a sucker born every minute".

    You can warn people to "practice safe hex" until you're blue in the face...but some have to learn the hard way.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to TONY LANGDON on Friday, July 07, 2017 01:55:00
    Tony,

    Oh, they're definitely criminals committing extortion. It's just that they also offer good customer service.

    Until the authorities get their email address shut down. :)

    And, that's what they did with WannaCry. So, if folks tried to send
    the bitcoins, they had no proof the hackers got payment...let alone if
    they'd get the the key to decrypt their files.

    ... People who pun deserve to be drawn and quoted.

    I resemble that remark. <G> There's a "World Championship Pun-Off" in
    Austin, Texas in early May each year, where the humor is "drier than the
    Sahara Desert". :) Truly, the beauty of the pun is in the GROAN of the recipient!!

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Friday, July 07, 2017 17:34:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Until the authorities get their email address shut down. :)

    And, that's what they did with WannaCry. So, if folks tried to send
    the bitcoins, they had no proof the hackers got payment...let alone if they'd get the the key to decrypt their files.

    Indeed.

    ... People who pun deserve to be drawn and quoted.

    I resemble that remark. <G> There's a "World Championship Pun-Off" in Austin, Texas in early May each year, where the humor is "drier than
    the Sahara Desert". :) Truly, the beauty of the pun is in the GROAN of
    the recipient!!

    A good pun is its own reword.

    Puns are bad, but poetry is verse. :P


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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Friday, July 07, 2017 03:28:07
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Thu Jul 06 2017 20:42:09

    same exact comparison with virus scanners.. I swear.. if virus
    scanners did'nt exist, I truly believe virii would'nt exist.

    eh? What's your reasoning? Virus scanners exist to protect people from viruses..

    Yeah.. I know.. purely speculation.. but any computer I've ever owned has run like crap AFTER installing virus scanners. I've had machines (windows machines) run for a year without virus scanners and when installing a scanner it would not find a virus, yet less than a week later it would start finding viruses every week.. and thats with no change in suring habits..

    purely speculation.. but I'm willing to bet most trojans and virus are put out by the antivirus industry.

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  • From Richard Williamson@VERT/RICHARDF to Daryl Stout on Friday, July 07, 2017 04:10:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Tony,

    Oh, they're definitely criminals committing extortion. It's just that they also offer good customer service.

    Until the authorities get their email address shut down. :)

    And, that's what they did with WannaCry. So, if folks tried to send
    the bitcoins, they had no proof the hackers got payment...let alone if they'd get the the key to decrypt their files.

    ... People who pun deserve to be drawn and quoted.

    I resemble that remark. <G> There's a "World Championship Pun-Off" in Austin, Texas in early May each year, where the humor is "drier than
    the Sahara Desert". :) Truly, the beauty of the pun is in the GROAN of
    the recipient!!

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Friday, July 07, 2017 19:34:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Yeah.. I know.. purely speculation.. but any computer I've ever owned
    has run like crap AFTER installing virus scanners. I've had machines (windows machines) run for a year without virus scanners and when installing a scanner it would not find a virus, yet less than a week
    later it would start finding viruses every week.. and thats with no
    change in suring habits..

    The cure can be worse than the disease. :/ I enerally run without a virus scanner, because they suck so many resources on the PC.

    purely speculation.. but I'm willing to bet most trojans and virus are
    put out by the antivirus industry.

    I dunno about that, but there's better ways to deal with the problem - a combination of the right technology and the right habits, along with good backups.

    I remember the early days of DOS viruses such as ping pong and stoned. I learned how they worked and how to disable them while they were resident (I knew quite a bit about DOS TSRs back then). That got me out of trouble when a clean boot floppy wasn't handy. The technique was to look up the interrupt vector table in low memory, and search for suspicious vectors. Some viruses hid at the top of conventional RAM, instead of the bottom, making the changes obvious. Then it was a case of following the affected interrupts step by step, until the corrected vector was found. Hex edit the interrupt vector table to the correct vector, then you can fix the MBR or run any scanning tools. :)


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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Friday, July 07, 2017 09:28:47
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Fri Jul 07 2017 19:34:00

    I remember the early days of DOS viruses such as ping pong and stoned. I learned how they worked and how to disable them while they were resident (I knew quite a bit about DOS TSRs back then). That got me out of trouble when a clean boot floppy wasn't handy. The technique was to look up the interrupt vector table in low memory, and search for suspicious vectors. Some viruses hid at the top of conventional RAM, instead of the bottom, making the changes obvious. Then it was a case of following the affected interrupts step by step, until the corrected vector was found. Hex edit the interrupt vector table to the correct vector, then you can fix the MBR or run any scanning tools. :)

    Thats very cool. and yes.. your habits, and knowing just how your machine "feels" and acts helps a lot.. I will scan files with scanners, but will not allow one to run all the time. I do however have ad blockers on my browsers.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Friday, July 07, 2017 09:30:01
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Fri Jul 07 2017 03:28 am

    same exact comparison with virus scanners.. I swear.. if virus
    scanners did'nt exist, I truly believe virii would'nt exist.

    eh? What's your reasoning? Virus scanners exist to protect people
    from viruses..

    Yeah.. I know.. purely speculation.. but any computer I've ever owned has run like crap AFTER installing virus scanners. I've had machines (windows machines) run for a year without virus scanners and when installing a scanner it would not find a virus, yet less than a week later it would start finding viruses every week.. and thats with no change in suring habits..

    I have not had that happen to me.. But I have seen cases where a particular virus scanner slows down a system severely for no apparent reason. I think I've seen that with Norton once years ago, and since then I have avoided Norton. But I have used AVG and Microsoft Security Essentials (now called Windows Defender, I believe) and haven't had a problem with those.

    Nightfox

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  • From Richard Williamson@VERT/RICHARDF to Nightfox on Friday, July 07, 2017 13:54:12
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Fri Jul 07 2017 03:28 am

    I have not had that happen to me.. But I have seen cases where a particular virus scanner slows down a system severely for no apparent reason. I think I've seen that with Norton once years ago, and since then I have avoided Norton. But I have used AVG and Microsoft Security Essentials (now called Windows Defender, I believe) and haven't had a problem with those.

    Nightfox

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    I beleave that with Norton, ... Norton and McAfee did there way deep into your system , both require a "removal tool" to get rid of it totally as they like to leave stuff behind

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Saturday, July 08, 2017 08:10:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Thats very cool. and yes.. your habits, and knowing just how your

    DOS hacking was fun. Being such a simple OS, it was easy to learn the internals.

    machine "feels" and acts helps a lot.. I will scan files with scanners, but will not allow one to run all the time. I do however have ad
    blockers on my browsers.

    I will use a scanner to scan files too, and I also use an ad blocker. Another utility I have is an anti exploit tool that analyses data sent to the broiwser, blocking suspicious behaviour. This one blocks "drive by" downloads, where a hacked website can infect your computer by the simple act of browsing the site.
    Unlike a virus scanner, this doesn't need updating, because it targets the actual coding techniques (buffer overflows, etc) used by these exploits.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Saturday, July 08, 2017 09:18:00
    Nightfox wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    I have not had that happen to me.. But I have seen cases where a particular virus scanner slows down a system severely for no apparent reason. I think I've seen that with Norton once years ago, and since
    then I have avoided Norton. But I have used AVG and Microsoft Security Essentials (now called Windows Defender, I believe) and haven't had a problem with those.

    AVG will slow down lower powered systems quite significantly, especially if they're low on RAM. I've had to disable ACG's on access scanner on a couple of laptops for this reason. Memory constrained systems are the worst affected.


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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Saturday, July 08, 2017 22:59:16
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Fri Jul 07 2017 09:30:01

    I have not had that happen to me.. But I have seen cases where a particular virus scanner slows down a system severely for no apparent reason. I think I've seen that with Norton once years ago, and since then I have avoided Norton. But I have used AVG and Microsoft Security Essentials (now called Windows Defender, I believe) and haven't had a problem with those.

    I'll agree there.. windows 10 does seem to run very smooth with Defender.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Saturday, July 08, 2017 21:04:29
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Sat Jul 08 2017 10:59 pm

    I'll agree there.. windows 10 does seem to run very smooth with Defender.

    One time I was buying a used PC from someone via Craigslist. I went to pick it up, and he said he rebuilt and sold used PCs for extra cash on the side. This was about 6 years ago, I think before Windows Security Essentials was released. He said something about talking to some people from Microsoft and asked why they hadn't released an anti-virus product yet, and he said they told him they didn't know enough about how to make a good anti-virus product. This person I was buying the PC from seemed to be very pro-Microsoft, and I was a little surprised when he told me this story, since there were plenty of other anti-virus products on the market at the time.. I had been using AVG for a while and was happy with it.

    This person I was buying the PC from also asked me what web browser I usually use, and I answered (at the time) I normally used Firefox. He said he thought Firefox was only for Linux.. Seemed like he didn't really know as much about the computer industry as he liked to think, or he only kept up with the Microsoft side of things. Seems to me it's good to know about the general industry rather than just one side of it..

    Nightfox

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  • From Darkwing@VERT to Nightfox on Sunday, July 30, 2017 18:41:10
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Thu Jul 06 2017 09:31 am

    There's more than one virus that does that. The general name for that type thing is 'ransomware'.

    and yet almost all of them are delivered via email, with driveby exploit kits seriously declining in popularity. no clicky-clicky!

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  • From Darkwing@VERT to Nightfox on Sunday, July 30, 2017 18:43:48
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to Deepthaw on Thu Jul 06 2017 05:10 pm

    All people need to do with their files is to keep backups. It's unfortunate that people have to think about doing that and spend time doing it, but thes people are out there, and there really is no good reason to have to send the money.

    let's not forget that your backup shouldn't simply be a network share... that will get encrypted as well =)

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  • From Darkwing@VERT to Nightfox on Sunday, July 30, 2017 18:46:42
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Thu Jul 06 2017 08:42 pm

    eh? What's your reasoning? Virus scanners exist to protect people from viruses..

    hold on there buddy, virus scanners prevent against *known* bad. it's seriously trivial to bypass AV. that being said, i absolutely recommend using it to keep yourself from shoooting yourself in the foot with that known badness. also, in the corporate environment, AV affords the ability to customize the response (ie: override the alert only and actually block) as well as letting someone push out a custom detection rule to stop badness that is only targeting your company. i'd really push for full host IPS at that point, so you could enact a logical isolation to get infected machines off the network in the quickest way possible.

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  • From Darkwing@VERT to Tony Langdon on Sunday, July 30, 2017 18:49:21
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Fri Jul 07 2017 07:34 pm

    I remember the early days of DOS viruses such as ping pong and stoned. I

    PROMPT $_Computer is now Stoned.$_$_$P$G ... good times =)

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Darkwing on Monday, July 31, 2017 16:06:00
    Darkwing wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    PROMPT $_Computer is now Stoned.$_$_$P$G ... good times =)

    LOL yep, those were the days. :) I remember having to disable the resident virus, so I could clean up infected PCs without a boot disk. I did get pretty good at using DEBUG. :D


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Darkwing on Monday, July 31, 2017 09:30:44
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Darkwing to Nightfox on Sun Jul 30 2017 06:46 pm

    eh? What's your reasoning? Virus scanners exist to protect people
    from viruses..

    hold on there buddy, virus scanners prevent against *known* bad. it's seriously trivial to bypass AV. that being said, i absolutely recommend

    Well yeah, known viruses.. I never said otherwise.

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DARKWING on Tuesday, August 01, 2017 01:44:00
    There's more than one virus that does that. The general name for that typ thing is 'ransomware'.

    and yet almost all of them are delivered via email, with driveby exploit
    kits seriously declining in popularity. no clicky-clicky!

    And, even the ransomware can spoof the sender...so, you have to be
    very careful about what emails you open.

    I see reports every day on Facebook of several on my friends list,
    getting their accounts hacked.

    Daryl
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DARKWING on Tuesday, August 01, 2017 01:45:00
    All people need to do with their files is to keep backups. It's unfortuna that people have to think about doing that and spend time doing it, but th people are out there, and there really is no good reason to have to send t money.

    let's not forget that your backup shouldn't simply be a network share...
    that will get encrypted as well =)

    That's true...if it's on a LAN, it's fair game for it. Best to put the
    data on a thumb drive or a DVD, and keep it away from the system, unless
    you store it off site.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DARKWING on Tuesday, August 01, 2017 01:47:00
    I remember the early days of DOS viruses such as ping pong and stoned. I

    PROMPT $_Computer is now Stoned.$_$_$P$G ... good times =)

    I remember hearing about the "stoned" and "flame" viruses...I think
    the latter was supposed to fry your hard drive, then as it finished, to
    put a picture of a fire on your monitor, then you got the message "your
    system has been flamed", then it was "toast".

    I did see several posts in various forums, noting "no evidence of
    such"...but these hackers, ec. are ruthless in their endeavors. It's
    like the old saying, "they're not happy unless someone else is
    miserable".

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, August 01, 2017 21:22:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to DARKWING <=-

    And, even the ransomware can spoof the sender...so, you have to be
    very careful about what emails you open.

    Spoofing senders is dead easy. I used to do it with a telnet client. :) I rely on years of online experience - I recognise both previous events and patterns of behaviour, which has proven to be quite helpful.

    I see reports every day on Facebook of several on my friends list, getting their accounts hacked.

    Yes, it's common. :( Stay vigilant.


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  • From Darkwing@VERT to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, August 01, 2017 12:55:21
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Daryl Stout to DARKWING on Tue Aug 01 2017 01:44 am

    And, even the ransomware can spoof the sender...so, you have to be
    very careful about what emails you open.

    oh yeah, if a company has their internal SMTP relay setup to not require any auth, you can just telnet there and enter the commands manually to spoof email as anyone there. mail from:/rcpt to:/data/etc.

    it's also more difficult to spot the spoofed email on a mobile device. definitely not as easy to see the details, or the msg headers, etc.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to TONY LANGDON on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 20:24:00
    Tony,

    Spoofing senders is dead easy. I used to do it with a telnet client. :) I TL>rely on years of online experience - I recognise both previous events and TL>patterns of behaviour, which has proven to be quite helpful.

    I downloaded a Flash Telnet client (similar to the one on my website)
    for my android phone. I haven't tried it yet, but some say it works.

    I see reports every day on Facebook of several on my friends list, getting their accounts hacked.

    Yes, it's common. :( Stay vigilant.

    I remember on CompuServe, they said "use two unrelated passwords,
    separated by a symbol"...such as BOAT-TOUCH (obviously do NOT use this
    as an example). The best way is to use a combination of letters,
    numbers, and symbols, as long as possible...and without "words". I use a password manager to create difficult passwords, then it remembers them
    for me.

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Thursday, August 03, 2017 21:37:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    I downloaded a Flash Telnet client (similar to the one on my website) for my android phone. I haven't tried it yet, but some say it works.

    Flash is on the way out. Should be looking at HTML5 for web based clints these days. :)

    I see reports every day on Facebook of several on my friends list, getting their accounts hacked.

    Yes, it's common. :( Stay vigilant.

    I remember on CompuServe, they said "use two unrelated passwords, separated by a symbol"...such as BOAT-TOUCH (obviously do NOT use this
    as an example). The best way is to use a combination of letters,
    numbers, and symbols, as long as possible...and without "words". I use
    a password manager to create difficult passwords, then it remembers
    them for me.

    The biggest risk is a Trojan or being phished. :/


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Daryl Stout on Thursday, August 03, 2017 08:07:59
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Daryl Stout to TONY LANGDON on Wed Aug 02 2017 08:24 pm

    I remember on CompuServe, they said "use two unrelated passwords, separated by a symbol"...such as BOAT-TOUCH (obviously do NOT use this
    as an example). The best way is to use a combination of letters,
    numbers, and symbols, as long as possible...and without "words". I use a password manager to create difficult passwords, then it remembers them
    for me.

    Or you could use a password like John Podesta did "p@$$w0rd" LOL
    he thought his password was so clever took someone probably 30 seconds to figure out.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to echicken on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 20:02:53
    Hello echicken,

    I have been getting reports of problems from a user running Jeopardized getting disconnected. I don't use the web interface myself so I don't know it well or understand what these problems are all about. My BBS uses a non standard telnet port, so I am thinking that might be part of it but at this point I don't know.

    I have been wondering if it might work better from the ecweb interface?

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Al on Thursday, February 11, 2021 08:26:01
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Wed Feb 10 2021 08:02 pm

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    I had done that for a while. I just had them in two different directories that were both accessible from the web (I think I had ecweb in a subdirectory in the web directory).

    Nightfox

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Nightfox on Thursday, February 11, 2021 17:16:57
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to Al on Thu Feb 11 2021 08:26 am

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default
    runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    I had done that for a while. I just had them in two different directories that were both accessible from the web (I think I had ecweb in a subdirectory in the web directory).

    Yes, my install by default has symlinks to the web and webv4 directories. I think I can use those?

    Next question, how do I add the second web server alongside the other? There are a few already using that web interface so I don't want it to go away.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Al on Thursday, February 11, 2021 20:32:43
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to Nightfox on Thu Feb 11 2021 05:16 pm

    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to Al on Thu Feb 11 2021 08:26 am

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default
    runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    I had done that for a while. I just had them in two different directories that were both accessible from the web (I think I had ecweb in a subdirectory in the web directory).

    Yes, my install by default has symlinks to the web and webv4 directories. I think I can use those?

    Next question, how do I add the second web server alongside the other? There are a few already using that web interface so I don't want it to go away.

    Read about virtual hosts here: https://wiki.synchro.net/server:web#configuration

    Or you could just simply have a sub-directory off of your web/root that pointed to your webv4 directory (maybe?).
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Al on Thursday, February 11, 2021 20:20:21
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to Nightfox on Thu Feb 11 2021 05:16 pm

    I had done that for a while. I just had them in two different
    directories that were both accessible from the web (I think I had
    ecweb in a subdirectory in the web directory).

    Yes, my install by default has symlinks to the web and webv4 directories. I think I can use those?

    Next question, how do I add the second web server alongside the other? There are a few already using that web interface so I don't want it to go away.

    ecweb and the Runemaster web interface don't need 2 separate servers. The Synchronet web server can serve both of them. They're both just different interfaces to the same Synchronet instance.

    Nightfox

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Digital Man on Friday, February 12, 2021 07:25:15
    Read about virtual hosts here: https://wiki.synchro.net/server:web#configuration

    Thank you. I am having a look around there now.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Nightfox on Friday, February 12, 2021 07:27:28
    ecweb and the Runemaster web interface don't need 2 separate servers. The Synchronet web
    server can serve both of them. They're both just different interfaces to the same Synchronet
    instance.

    Thanks. I was thinking I need another instance but what I needed was the virtual server setup.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Al on Friday, February 12, 2021 23:11:00
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Wed Feb 10 2021 20:02:53

    I have been getting reports of problems from a user running Jeopardized getting disconnected. I don't use the web interface myself so I don't know it well or understand what these problems are all about. My BBS uses a non standard telnet port, so I am thinking that might be part of it but at this point I don't know.

    Are users able to play any other games from your web interface? It'd be weird if this problem were particular to Jeopardized. It's most likely that you'll need to correct something about your fTelnet and websocket server configuration.

    I have been wondering if it might work better from the ecweb interface?

    Unlikely, but I'm not very familiar with the external programs part of the Runemaster UI so I am not certain.

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    It's possible, but there may be a few bugs yet. (If CG sees this, perhaps he can chime in.) It mostly involves copying or symlinking the 'webv4/root/' directory to a location under the document root of your webserver (usually /sbbs/web/root), so that you end up with eg. a /sbbs/web/root/webv4 directory which contains all the stuff from /sbbs/webv4/root.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to echicken on Friday, February 12, 2021 21:56:26
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Fri Feb 12 2021 11:11 pm

    Are users able to play any other games from your web interface? It'd be weird if this problem were particular to Jeopardized. It's most likely that you'll need to correct something about your fTelnet and websocket server configuration.

    Yes, I don't use it often but am able to look at bulletins, the BBS list and play blackjack.

    If I can figure out any problems I'll make adjustments.

    It's possible, but there may be a few bugs yet. (If CG sees this, perhaps he can chime in.) It mostly involves copying or symlinking the 'webv4/root/' directory to a location under the document root of your webserver (usually /sbbs/web/root), so that you end up with eg. a /sbbs/web/root/webv4 directory which contains all the stuff from /sbbs/webv4/root.

    OK, I have it working as a virtual server now, with a symlink pointing to /sbbs/webv4/root.

    I have not done any configuration at all. Will I need entries in sbbs.ini or modopts.ini?

    I have asked Cyberpope to post his reports here. I don't know what button he is pressing when these errors happen, but he told me he was getting a "red line" on his screen. I have not seen that but it sounds like this is happening in ftelnet? I'm not sure but if the problem continues I'll try to zero in on it and your help would be appreciated.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Al on Saturday, February 13, 2021 18:09:00
    On 02-12-21 07:27, Al wrote to Nightfox <=-

    ecweb and the Runemaster web interface don't need 2 separate servers. The Synchronet web
    server can serve both of them. They're both just different interfaces to
    he
    same Synchronet
    instance.

    Thanks. I was thinking I need another instance but what I needed was
    the virtual server setup.

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list for years LOL. Damn executive dysfunction. :/


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Tony Langdon on Saturday, February 13, 2021 05:54:00
    Tony,

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list
    for years LOL. Damn executive dysfunction. :/

    Is that the corporate version of E.D.?? According to one ham radio
    operator, he thought it stood for "Electronic Doofus"!! Now, I can
    relate to that...especially when it comes to Violet (hi hi).

    Daryl, WX4QZ

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Al on Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:19:56
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Wed Feb 10 2021 08:02 pm

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    Yes, you can, assuming you have the newest version of webv4. make a dir called /sbbs/web/root/webv4 and move all of your root directory of webv4 into this directory, you should have 6 directories and 2 files in the newly created dir (api, bootstrap, css, error, images, js, .gitignore, index.xjs)

    Now make a directory /sbbs/webv4, and put the other directories form webv4 in this newly created dir. You should have 4 dirs and 1 file, (components, lib, pages. sidebar, .gitignore).

    Be sure you move all the files included in the webv4 directories to their respected new dirs.

    now go into sbbs/ctrl/modopts.ini and change the following line in the web section from: web_directory=../web/root/webv4 to: web_directory=../webv4

    Now you can point to your new web page as "http://yoursiteaddress.com/webv4"

    If you want, you can see it in action on my site http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/ then click on the test button located on the left hand side. I'm still tweaking it, thats why it's labeled test. The rest of my site is the old ruinmaster.

    Good luck. If you have any questions, feel free to ask, If I can't answer, I'm sure echicken can.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Tony Langdon on Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:18:39
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Tony Langdon to Al on Sat Feb 13 2021 06:09 pm

    Thanks. I was thinking I need another instance but what I needed was
    the virtual server setup.

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list for years LOL. Damn executive dysfunction. :/

    I love ecwebv4, just the stuff that can be done with it using HTML is way cool.
    outwestbbs.com to see some of the mod's I made to mine.

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  • From Alan Ianson@VERT to DesotoFireflite on Saturday, February 13, 2021 17:39:02
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to Al on Sat Feb 13 2021 11:19 am

    Is it possible to run the ecweb interface along side the default
    runemaster interface? If so how to do that?

    Yes, you can, assuming you have the newest version of webv4. make a dir called /sbbs/web/root/webv4 and move all of your root directory of webv4 into this directory, you should have 6 directories and 2 files in the newly created dir (api, bootstrap, css, error, images, js, .gitignore, index.xjs)

    Now make a directory /sbbs/webv4, and put the other directories form webv4 in this newly created dir. You should have 4 dirs and 1 file, (components, lib, pages. sidebar, .gitignore).

    Be sure you move all the files included in the webv4 directories to their respected new dirs.

    I tried this. I have symlinked the webv4/root directory to web/root/trmb.ddns.net and it works as expected. It seems to consume RAM after a time. The BBS eventually slows down and stops responding.

    If you want, you can see it in action on my site http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/ then click on the test button located on the left hand side. I'm still tweaking it, thats why it's labeled test. The rest of my site is the old ruinmaster.

    I did have a look. Your site is nicely modified and behaved.

    now go into sbbs/ctrl/modopts.ini and change the following line in the web section from: web_directory=../web/root/webv4 to: web_directory=../webv4

    This is what I don't have. I'll look into what needs to be done with modopts.ini and try again.

    That's for the info.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Tony Langdon on Saturday, February 13, 2021 17:51:49
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Tony Langdon to Al on Sat Feb 13 2021 06:09 pm

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list for years LOL.

    It has a nice interface.

    Damn executive dysfunction. :/

    Yep, it all takes time that's not always easy to find.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Sunday, February 14, 2021 20:42:00
    On 02-13-21 05:54, Daryl Stout wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Tony,

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list
    for years LOL. Damn executive dysfunction. :/

    Is that the corporate version of E.D.?? According to one ham radio operator, he thought it stood for "Electronic Doofus"!! Now, I can
    relate to that...especially when it comes to Violet (hi hi).

    LOL if only it was that simple, no, it's a real psychological thing, unfortunately. :/


    ... It's all more or less the same.. but it's all different now.
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Denn on Sunday, February 14, 2021 20:43:00
    On 02-13-21 11:18, Denn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I love ecwebv4, just the stuff that can be done with it using HTML is
    way cool.
    outwestbbs.com to see some of the mod's I made to mine.

    Yeah I've heard nothing but good things, and tried the ecweb interface on another BBS and found it quite good (for a web interface, they're not really my thing). :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Al on Sunday, February 14, 2021 20:44:00
    On 02-13-21 17:51, Al wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list for years LOL.

    It has a nice interface.

    Certainly one of the better web based messaging interfaces.

    Damn executive dysfunction. :/

    Yep, it all takes time that's not always easy to find.

    Not just time, but also information gathering, planning, etc.


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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Alan Ianson on Sunday, February 14, 2021 08:33:38
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Alan Ianson to DesotoFireflite on Sat Feb 13 2021 05:39 pm

    I tried this. I have symlinked the webv4/root directory to web/root/trmb.ddns.net and it works as expected. It seems to consume RAM after a time. The BBS eventually slows down and stops responding.

    I'm assuming since you said symlinked, you are running linux. I know nothing about linux, so echicken would be the one to ask about running webv4 on linux

    I did have a look. Your site is nicely modified and behaved.

    Thanks, but still have a lot of tweeking to do.

    now go into sbbs/ctrl/modopts.ini and change the following line in
    the web section from: web_directory=../web/root/webv4 to:
    web_directory=../webv4

    This is what I don't have. I'll look into what needs to be done with modopts.ini and try again.

    This is what made the difference on my site. Hope it works for you.

    SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Tony Langdon on Monday, February 15, 2021 07:16:00
    Tony,

    I must get around to that myself. ecwebv4 has been on my to do list
    for years LOL. Damn executive dysfunction. :/

    Is that the corporate version of E.D.?? According to one ham radio operator, he thought it stood for "Electronic Doofus"!! Now, I can
    relate to that...especially when it comes to Violet (hi hi).

    LOL if only it was that simple, no, it's a real psychological thing, unfortunately. :/

    In today's world, any bit of levity is helpful.

    Daryl

    ... All good things must come to an e
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, February 16, 2021 18:46:00
    On 02-15-21 07:16, Daryl Stout wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    In today's world, any bit of levity is helpful.

    True, except when it can cause a misunderstanding. :)


    ... I didn't like my beard at first, but it grew on me...
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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Al on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 11:19:59
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Fri Feb 12 2021 21:56:26

    I have not done any configuration at all. Will I need entries in sbbs.ini or modopts.ini?

    In your case, nothing needs to be changed in sbbs.ini.

    You can add a [web] section to modopts.ini; an annotated example is available here:

    http://wiki.synchro.net/config:webv4

    If you omit that section or any settings, then the defaults (as shown on that page) will be applied. The most important setting to consider is "guest".

    he is pressing when these errors happen, but he told me he was getting a "red line" on his screen. I have not seen that but it sounds like this is happening in ftelnet? I'm not sure but if the problem continues I'll try

    fTelnet will have a red bar across the bottom in some situations (loss of input focus, disconnection). Typically that bar contains some text, and it would be nice to know what it says (probably "Disconnected from ...").

    Yes, I don't use it often but am able to look at bulletins, the BBS list and play blackjack.

    Does Jeopardized work if you call in via, say, SyncTERM?

    When the problem occurs, does Jeopardized even launch, or does the disconnection happen before you see any output from it?

    Does anything interesting show up in the logs when this happens?

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Alan Ianson on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 11:27:47
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Alan Ianson to DesotoFireflite on Sat Feb 13 2021 17:39:02

    I tried this. I have symlinked the webv4/root directory to web/root/trmb.ddns.net and it works as expected. It seems to consume RAM after a time. The BBS eventually slows down and stops responding.

    There are a few changes I need to make which may help with this, but I'm only guessing. Since almost every script that's involved has a short lifecycle (an HTTP request and response) you would think any memory that's used would get freed up afterward, but it's not quite so simple.

    ---
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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to echicken on Thursday, February 18, 2021 00:56:27
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Wed Feb 17 2021 11:19 am

    You can add a [web] section to modopts.ini; an annotated example is available here:

    http://wiki.synchro.net/config:webv4

    If you omit that section or any settings, then the defaults (as shown on that page) will be applied. The most important setting to consider is "guest".

    I'll have a look at the wiki page and add those settings.

    fTelnet will have a red bar across the bottom in some situations (loss of input focus, disconnection). Typically that bar contains some text, and it would be nice to know what it says (probably "Disconnected from ...").

    I'll get more input and better details.

    Does Jeopardized work if you call in via, say, SyncTERM?

    Yes, I was just in there using telnet and I was able to read the news, scores etc and it seemed to work well for me. I'll haven't played at all but given some time I'll try that but it seemed to work for me.

    When the problem occurs, does Jeopardized even launch, or does the disconnection happen before you see any output from it?

    I'll try to get better info from that user, or maybe he will participate here.

    Does anything interesting show up in the logs when this happens?

    Not that I have noticed. I'll try to figure out what time this happens and look in the log and see if it shed's any light.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to echicken on Thursday, February 18, 2021 00:58:39
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Alan Ianson on Wed Feb 17 2021 11:27 am

    There are a few changes I need to make which may help with this, but I'm only guessing. Since almost every script that's involved has a short lifecycle (an HTTP request and response) you would think any memory that's used would get freed up afterward, but it's not quite so simple.

    I'll add the [web] section to modopts.ini and see if that makes a difference.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Al on Thursday, February 18, 2021 09:32:53
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 00:58:39

    I'll add the [web] section to modopts.ini and see if that makes a difference.

    Shouldn't be necessary unless you want to change one of the default settings. Definitely won't fix a memory leak, which is what seems to be happening.

    I made some changes last night but have no idea if they will do anything re: this issue. An update might help.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to echicken on Thursday, February 18, 2021 07:19:12
    Shouldn't be necessary unless you want to change one of the default settings. Definitely won't fix a memory leak, which is what seems to be happening.

    I did have a web section in my modopts.ini that I didn't notice before.

    I made some changes last night but have no idea if they will do anything re: this issue. An update might help.

    Leaving the modopts.ini intact the ecweb interface seems to load. The title bar says "The Rusty MailBox..." but the page does not display. I get an empty browser window.

    If I comment out the [web] section from modopts.ini I get this in my browser..

    !JavaScript /sbbs/web/root/trmb.ddns.net/index.xjs.ssjs line 3: Error: can't open /sbbs/web/root/../lib/init.js: No such file or directory

    I hope that makes sense.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Al on Thursday, February 18, 2021 13:23:35
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 07:19:12

    If I comment out the [web] section from modopts.ini I get this in my browser..

    !JavaScript /sbbs/web/root/trmb.ddns.net/index.xjs.ssjs line 3: Error: can't open /sbbs/web/root/../lib/init.js: No such file or directory

    That's to be expected in this scenario, since you aren't specifying the web_directory setting and the default doesn't work for your system.

    I would suggest that you add [web] back to modopts.ini, but start with just this:

    [web]
    web_directory = ../webv4

    (Adjust the value as needed to point to your webv4 directory; the location is relative to the exec directory.)

    After that, you'll most likely end up back in this state:

    Leaving the modopts.ini intact the ecweb interface seems to load. The title bar says "The Rusty MailBox..." but the page does not display. I get an empty browser window.

    At which point there will probably be errors in your logs to help us find out what's going wrong.

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Al on Thursday, February 18, 2021 13:27:58
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 07:19:12

    !JavaScript /sbbs/web/root/trmb.ddns.net/index.xjs.ssjs line 3: Error:

    Incidentally if I go here:

    http://trmb.synchro.net/trmb.ddns.net/

    everything does seem to work, but if I go here:

    http://trmb.ddns.net/

    I see the runemaster UI, which strikes me as odd.

    Do you have VIRTUAL_HOSTS in the Options line under [Web] in sbbs.ini?

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to echicken on Thursday, February 18, 2021 11:38:06
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Thu Feb 18 2021 01:27 pm

    Incidentally if I go here:

    http://trmb.synchro.net/trmb.ddns.net/

    everything does seem to work, but if I go here:

    http://trmb.ddns.net/

    I see the runemaster UI, which strikes me as odd.

    Do you have VIRTUAL_HOSTS in the Options line under [Web] in sbbs.ini?

    I had it disabled because of the ram usage but it is enabled now.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Al on Thursday, February 18, 2021 14:58:01
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 11:38:06

    I had it disabled because of the ram usage but it is enabled now.

    Interestingly, now fTelnet is missing from your Home page but other things (such as Forum and Files) appear to work just fine. I'll try to figure out why that is.

    Incidentally, you may wish to lock down permissions on some of your file areas. Right now, any guest user from the web could leech The BBS Documentary off of your server, for example. (This is a good case for setting up a dedicated guest user account for your website.)

    ---
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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Al on Thursday, February 18, 2021 15:08:42
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 11:38:06

    I had it disabled because of the ram usage but it is enabled now.

    An update - or adding 'ftelnet=true' to modopts.ini->[web] - might make your Home page look correct. If not, please let me know.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to echicken on Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:37:18
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Thu Feb 18 2021 02:58 pm

    Interestingly, now fTelnet is missing from your Home page but other things (such as Forum and Files) appear to work just fine. I'll try to figure out why that is.

    Is that the runemaster interface? The externals menu option doesn't show unless you login.

    Incidentally, you may wish to lock down permissions on some of your file areas. Right now, any guest user from the web could leech The BBS Documentary off of your server, for example. (This is a good case for setting up a dedicated guest user account for your website.)

    I sometimes wonder if that should be a protected area, but I don't think so. I got those files many years ago now from legaltorrents.com when that site was running. I think Jason is OK with those files being freely shared. You can actually download iso images of the documentary from archive.org.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to echicken on Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:40:19
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Thu Feb 18 2021 03:08 pm

    An update - or adding 'ftelnet=true' to modopts.ini->[web] - might make your Home page look correct. If not, please let me know.

    I enabled that option but I don't see any difference. I still don't see anything in my browser when I go to trmb.ddns.net.

    Ram usage seems to be OK, so far anyway.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... The large print giveth and the small print taketh away.

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Al on Thursday, February 18, 2021 15:52:07
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 12:37:18

    I sometimes wonder if that should be a protected area, but I don't think so. I got those files many years ago now from legaltorrents.com when that site was running. I think Jason is OK with those files being freely shared. You can actually download iso images of the documentary from archive.org.

    I believe it was released under a Creative Commons license, so distributing it is no problem. I was mainly thinking about it as a bandwidth consideration; that's around 2GB of video, which is probably fine, but could add up if for some reason you got a lot of downloads one month.

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Al on Thursday, February 18, 2021 15:53:32
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Thu Feb 18 2021 12:40:19

    I enabled that option but I don't see any difference. I still don't see anything in my browser when I go to trmb.ddns.net.

    You see nothing at all in your browser?

    When I go to trmb.ddns.net now, I see a full working webv4 site. fTelnet appears to be working now too.

    ---
    echicken
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  • From Alan Ianson@VERT to echicken on Thursday, February 18, 2021 13:05:20
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Thu Feb 18 2021 03:53 pm

    You see nothing at all in your browser?

    Yes, just a blank page at trmb.ddns.net. If I go to trmb.synchro.net/trmb.ddns.net then I see the ecweb page fine.

    My router is known for playing strange tricks, this might be one of them.

    When I go to trmb.ddns.net now, I see a full working webv4 site. fTelnet appears to be working now too.

    Excellent. Thank you for your efforts, it is appreciated. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to echicken on Thursday, February 18, 2021 15:02:45
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Thu Feb 18 2021 03:53 pm

    I enabled that option but I don't see any difference. I still don't
    see anything in my browser when I go to trmb.ddns.net.

    You see nothing at all in your browser?

    When I go to trmb.ddns.net now, I see a full working webv4 site. fTelnet appears to be working now too.

    I also get to his webv4 page just fine and ftelnet works for me as well.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to echicken on Saturday, February 20, 2021 00:30:25
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Thu Feb 18 2021 03:53 pm

    I enabled that option but I don't see any difference. I still don't
    see anything in my browser when I go to trmb.ddns.net.

    You see nothing at all in your browser?

    Further to this I have noticed I can go to http://trmb.ddns.net and I see the page fine. It's when I use https://trmb.ddns.net that I see a blank page.

    The memory usage does not seem to be a problem anymore.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat vegetables!

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Al on Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:12:19
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Al to echicken on Sat Feb 20 2021 00:30:25

    Further to this I have noticed I can go to http://trmb.ddns.net and I see the page fine. It's when I use https://trmb.ddns.net that I see a blank page.

    I am not seeing that problem here - webv4 appears and seems to be working whether via http or https.

    ---
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    ---
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  • From Alan Ianson@VERT to echicken on Saturday, February 20, 2021 09:21:21
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to Al on Sat Feb 20 2021 11:12 am

    I am not seeing that problem here - webv4 appears and seems to be working whether via http or https.

    I wonder if it could be my virtual server setup, but that's not an ecweb issue.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to echicken on Saturday, January 29, 2022 15:51:54
    Hi EC

    My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these things up.

    If you remember correctly, I am running webv4 off of my other website, and you and I worked to get it so it worked fine by changing a few things in modopts.ini. But at that time, you said all the modules may not function correctly, and this is the only one I've found that is giving issues. What do we need to do to get the register feature working correctly.

    If you want to check it out, go to my webpage "valhallabbs.com", and click on the Synchronet Icon. Thanks in advance

    SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to DesotoFireflite on Saturday, January 29, 2022 21:15:03
    On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 15:51:54 -0500
    "DesotoFireflite" <desotofireflite@VERT/VALHALLA> wrote:

    Hi EC

    My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works
    fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my
    system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and
    Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few
    other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these
    things up.

    Do people really give their details up? I guess these days it's easy
    enough to look someone up on the internet, and before the times of
    email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the days
    of collecting true, authentic user information is in the past.
    --
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nelgin on Saturday, January 29, 2022 22:10:47
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nelgin to DesotoFireflite on Sat Jan 29 2022 09:15 pm

    My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works
    fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few
    other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these
    things up.

    Do people really give their details up? I guess these days it's easy
    enough to look someone up on the internet, and before the times of
    email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the days
    of collecting true, authentic user information is in the past.


    i dont know why any sysop would want someone's real birthdate or street address.

    unless they are on some power trip.
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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to DesotoFireflite on Sunday, January 30, 2022 05:08:10
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to echicken on Sat Jan 29 2022 15:51:54

    My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these things up.

    It's meant to respect the new user questions you've specified via SCFG. (And this worked the last time I checked.) Required fields should show up with an asterisk or something beside them, and the form shouldn't submit without them being filled out.

    If you remember correctly, I am running webv4 off of my other website, and you and I worked to get it so it worked fine by changing a few things in modopts.ini. But at that time, you said all the modules may not function

    Sounds familiar, but I don't remember the details. Can you remind me what changes you made to modopts.ini?

    Does your webv4 installation have a lib/locale/en_us.ini file, and in that file is there a [page_register] section, and in that section is there a 'stat_suffix_field_required' entry? If so, what does it say?

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Nelgin on Sunday, January 30, 2022 09:06:23
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nelgin to DesotoFireflite on Sat Jan 29 2022 09:15 pm

    My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works
    fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match my
    system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password, and
    Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a few
    other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these
    things up.

    Do people really give their details up? I guess these days it's easy enough to look someone up on the internet, and before the times of
    email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the days
    of collecting true, authentic user information is in the past.

    Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been around so long...LOL.
    Now, is the info honest, that's the million dollor question.

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to echicken on Sunday, January 30, 2022 09:53:53
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jan 30 2022 05:08 am

    My Register function on webv4 is not in tune with the bbs. It works
    fine for registering new users, but the required items don't match
    my system. The only thing webv4 is requiring is the Name, Password,
    and Email, but I require on my system Street Address, Birthday and a
    few other things. Is there a special file that I need to sync these
    things up.

    It's meant to respect the new user questions you've specified via SCFG. (And this worked the last time I checked.) Required fields should show up with an asterisk or something beside them, and the form shouldn't submit without them being filled out.

    Yes, I understand that, but the asterisk is only showing up on the Name Field, and the Password Fields, and EMail Address Fields, none of the others, yet in SCFG, most are required for new users.

    If you remember correctly, I am running webv4 off of my other
    website, and you and I worked to get it so it worked fine by
    changing a few things in modopts.ini. But at that time, you said all
    the modules may not function

    whatchanges you made to modopts.ini?

    modopts.ini..Not sure if we made changes to modopts.ini, but if we did
    I believe these were it...it's been awhile

    brand_link = http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/
    web_directory=../webv4

    sbbs.ini
    [Web]Web (HTTP) Server
    RootDirectory = ../web/root

    my index.html pointing to webv4
    http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/webv4

    in the web/root directory, we added a webv4 directory and put webv4 root directory there, containing the api, bootstrap, css, error, immages directories, and the index.xjs and index.xjs.ssjs files. Then we added the webv4 other directories under sbbs/webv4 containing the following directories components, lib, pages, and sidebar.

    It's all been working fineit registers people fine, but it's only req name, password and email, all other fields can be blank. why is it not seeing the other required fields from scfg. sorry for repeating myself.

    Does your webv4 installation have a lib/locale/en_us.ini file, and in that file is there a [page_register] section, and in that section is there a 'stat_suffix_field_required' entry? If so, what does it say?

    Yes it's there
    stat_suffix_field_required = required

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DesotoFireflite on Sunday, January 30, 2022 16:42:22
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to Nelgin on Sun Jan 30 2022 09:06 am

    email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the days of collecting true, authentic user information is in the past.

    Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been around so long...LOL. Now, is the info honest, that's the million dollor question.

    why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what disclaimer you put up.

    i don't want anybody's personal information. i ask for birthdate but that's just something i havent switched off. i'd rather just ask 'age' because i'm curious about my user demographics.

    i recommend that you pare down your user questions.
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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to DesotoFireflite on Monday, January 31, 2022 04:48:28
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to echicken on Sun Jan 30 2022 09:53:53

    modopts.ini..Not sure if we made changes to modopts.ini, but if we did
    I believe these were it...it's been awhile

    brand_link = http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/
    web_directory=../webv4

    sbbs.ini
    [Web]Web (HTTP) Server
    RootDirectory = ../web/root

    my index.html pointing to webv4
    http://bbs.valhallabbs.com/webv4

    Thanks - none of this should affect newuser questions.

    Yes it's there
    stat_suffix_field_required = required

    I have no idea why I made that customizable, but there was probably a reason. That's good then.

    I think this may just be down to a typo. Could you try the following for me and let me know if it helps?

    1) Create a webv4/mods/ directory (if not already present)

    2) Create a webv4/mods/pages/ directory (if not already present)

    3) Copy webv4/pages/000-register.xjs to webv4/mods/pages/

    4) Edit lines 16 and 20 of webv4/mods/pages/000-register.xjs, replacing 'system.new_user_questions' with 'system.newuser_questions'

    5) Save the file, see if your reg page is fixed

    If it does work, you can leave the copy of 000-register.xjs in place for the time being, and I'll put the fix in the git repo soon.

    Thanks,

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to DesotoFireflite on Monday, January 31, 2022 15:21:00
    On 01-30-22 09:06, DesotoFireflite wrote to Nelgin <=-

    Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part
    most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been
    around so long...LOL. Now, is the info honest, that's the million
    dollor question.

    I agree with MRO on this, ask yourself do you really need to collect all of the information? I took a number of the new user questions out, because I really don't need the info. And these days, it's best not to collect information you're not planning to use.


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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to MRO on Monday, January 31, 2022 08:16:13
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: MRO to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jan 30 2022 04:42 pm

    email for verification, there had to an alternate way. I feel the
    days of collecting true, authentic user information is in the
    past.

    Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part
    most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been
    around so long...LOL. Now, is the info honest, that's the million
    dollor question.

    why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what disclaimer you put up.

    Well, I just want complete info. I want the City and State because I want to know where callers are from, and it leaves a blank spot in my last ten callers list, and I want the Age for my adult section, and the rest is for demographics.

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to echicken on Monday, January 31, 2022 08:29:42
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 04:48 am

    I think this may just be down to a typo. Could you try the following for me and let me know if it helps?

    1) Create a webv4/mods/ directory (if not already present)

    2) Create a webv4/mods/pages/ directory (if not already present)

    3) Copy webv4/pages/000-register.xjs to webv4/mods/pages/

    4) Edit lines 16 and 20 of webv4/mods/pages/000-register.xjs, replacing 'system.new_user_questions' with 'system.newuser_questions'

    5) Save the file, see if your reg page is fixed

    If it does work, you can leave the copy of 000-register.xjs in place for the time being, and I'll put the fix in the git repo soon.

    Worked like a charm, Thanks EC, now that it's fixed, I can turn off a few of the requirements I don't need. Again thanks for solving the problem.

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Vk3jed on Monday, January 31, 2022 08:34:46
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Vk3jed to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 03:21 pm

    Actually yes, I lose some users because of it, but for the most part
    most will fill in the info requested. Maybe it's because I've been
    around so long...LOL. Now, is the info honest, that's the million
    dollor question.

    I agree with MRO on this, ask yourself do you really need to collect all of the information? I took a number of the new user questions out, because I really don't need the info. And these days, it's best not to collect information you're not planning to use.

    Yes, I'm planning on trimming down the required questions to what I really want and need. I still want the city and state, age, alias, real Name, and email and password, the rest I don't really care about. Now that EC solved the issue, I can get things squared up.



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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to DesotoFireflite on Monday, January 31, 2022 14:00:47
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to echicken on Mon Jan 31 2022 08:29:42

    Worked like a charm, Thanks EC, now that it's fixed, I can turn off a few of the requirements I don't need. Again thanks for solving the problem.

    Thanks for doing the legwork - I didn't have the energy to test it last night.

    Hang on to your modified copy of 000-register.xjs for now, but you'll want to remove it after I've fixed the official one and you've updated. (I'll try to remember to remind you of that when the time comes.)

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to echicken on Monday, January 31, 2022 12:43:28
    Re: ecwebv4
    By: echicken to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 02:00 pm

    Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to echicken on Mon Jan 31 2022 08:29:42

    Worked like a charm, Thanks EC, now that it's fixed, I can turn off
    a few of the requirements I don't need. Again thanks for solving the
    problem.

    Thanks for doing the legwork - I didn't have the energy to test it last night.

    I understand compleatly, at 70 most of my energy has long gone :)

    Hang on to your modified copy of 000-register.xjs for now, but you'll want to remove it after I've fixed the official one and you've updated. (I'll try to remember to remind you of that when the time comes.)

    Thanks.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DesotoFireflite on Monday, January 31, 2022 12:54:54
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to MRO on Mon Jan 31 2022 08:16 am

    why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what disclaimer you put up.

    Well, I just want complete info. I want the City and State because I want to know where callers are from, and it leaves a blank spot in my last ten callers list, and I want the Age for my adult section, and the rest is for demographics.


    what good is their address to you? why should you have their address?
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to DesotoFireflite on Monday, January 31, 2022 11:19:38
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to MRO on Mon Jan 31 2022 08:16 am

    why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised
    and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what disclaimer
    you put up.

    Well, I just want complete info. I want the City and State because I want to know where callers are from, and it leaves a blank spot in my last ten callers list, and I want the Age for my adult section, and the rest is for demographics.

    I don't really see a need to ask users for things like their address or phone number. I could see those things possibly being useful if you're running a BBS with adult content and want to do your due dilligence to verify user age etc.. but for the most part, I don't think that information is really necessary.

    Nightfox

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Nightfox on Monday, January 31, 2022 14:53:40
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 11:19 am

    why do you even want that info? what if your system is compromised
    and their data is stolen? they can sue you no matter what
    disclaimer you put up.

    Well, I just want complete info. I want the City and State because
    I want to know where callers are from, and it leaves a blank spot
    in my last ten callers list, and I want the Age for my adult
    section, and the rest is for demographics.

    I don't really see a need to ask users for things like their address or phone number. I could see those things possibly being useful if you're running a BBS with adult content and want to do your due dilligence to verify user age etc.. but for the most part, I don't think that information is really necessary.

    I guess I don't, but I'm from the old school of BBSing, and I guess It's a hard habit to break. I guess it's not really needed. At least it's working now, and I can decide. I just perfer to run my system the old way.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to DesotoFireflite on Monday, January 31, 2022 15:17:15
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Mon Jan 31 2022 02:53 pm

    I don't really see a need to ask users for things like their
    address or phone number. I could see those things possibly being
    useful if you're running a BBS with adult content and want to do
    your due dilligence to verify user age etc.. but for the most
    part, I don't think that information is really necessary.

    I guess I don't, but I'm from the old school of BBSing, and I guess It's a hard habit to break. I guess it's not really needed. At least it's working now, and I can decide. I just perfer to run my system the old way.

    I ran a BBS from 1994 to 2000, and I don't think I had my BBS ask for users' addresses back then. Only their phone number, since I used a callback verifier at the time.

    When I saw a BBS ask for a mailing address, I think it was often for BBSes with adult content where they might want to contact you for verification of your age.

    Nightfox

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Nightfox on Monday, January 31, 2022 19:27:27
    Re: Re: ecwebv4
    By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jan 31 2022 03:17 pm

    I ran a BBS from 1994 to 2000, and I don't think I had my BBS ask for users' addresses back then. Only their phone number, since I used a callback verifier at the time.

    When I saw a BBS ask for a mailing address, I think it was often for BBSes with adult content where they might want to contact you for verification of your age.

    The only address info I plan to collect is the City & State, and that's for my last ten callers info, as I don't like it showing a blank line. The actual street address, and zip code, and phone number I could care less, as it's not needed these days. I plan on changing it tomorrow. The problem was, webv4 was only asking for a user name, password and email as mandatory, and I wanted more, and now that it's fixed, I can tweak the system. My problem was, that I have been realitivly lazy for a few years, now I've got back into it, and I'm paying the price fixing the things that were broken and negiected. It's all coming togeather now though. :)

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to DesotoFireflite on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 16:30:00
    On 01-31-22 08:34, DesotoFireflite wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yes, I'm planning on trimming down the required questions to what I
    really want and need. I still want the city and state, age, alias, real Name, and email and password, the rest I don't really care about. Now
    that EC solved the issue, I can get things squared up.

    I find city/state antiquated without country, given everything is globlly accessible. And those are pretty much the details I'm interested in as well. Alias and "real name" are needed for using the system, including much of Fidonet, email is an alternative point of contact, and password is obvious. :D



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