Care, and it may have an undelete deal. You can likely undelete stuff if in something like Windows Explorer, but I don't think that's possible if you delete it from a command prompt.

Deleting files works the same way whether you delete from Windows Explorer or N>the command prompt. It has to do with the filesystem, not the user interface N>you're using.

Well, I've tried an undelete utility after zapping stuff from a DOS
prompt, and it didn't work.

Daryl

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Re: Deleting Files
By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Thu Jun 29 2017 08:04 am

Well, I've tried an undelete utility after zapping stuff from a DOS prompt, and it didn't work.

By "DOS prompt", do you mean you were using MS-DOS (or similar DOS), or do you mean the command prompt in Windows? If this was in Windows, you need to run the undelete utility fairly quickly because with the background tasks Windows does, Windows could overwrite the deleted file's sectors, making them unable to be recovered.

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Re: Deleting Files
By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Thu Jun 29 2017 08:04 am

Care, and it may have an undelete deal. You can likely undelete stuff if in something like Windows Explorer, but I don't think that's possible if you delete it from a command prompt.

Deleting files works the same way whether you delete from Windows Explorer or N>the command prompt. It has to do with the filesystem, not the user interface N>you're using.

Well, I've tried an undelete utility after zapping stuff from a DOS prompt, and it didn't work.

I've used recuva (recuva.com) with good success. And that's a Windows command prompt (cmd.exe) most likely, not DOS.

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Daryl Stout wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

Well, I've tried an undelete utility after zapping stuff from a DOS prompt, and it didn't work.

Yeah no guarantees, because once a file is deleted, the diskspace is freed and something can come along and use that space.


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Re: Re: Deleting Files
By: Tony Langdon to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 01 2017 08:28 am

Well, I've tried an undelete utility after zapping stuff from a DOS
prompt, and it didn't work.

Yeah no guarantees, because once a file is deleted, the diskspace is freed and something can come along and use that space.

Back in the day, when using MS-DOS or similar DOS operating system, you could easily undelete a file immediately after deleting it because there was nothing going on that would use that file's space. But with Windows and other modern operating systems, there are background tasks that could potentially write something where the deleted files used to be.

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Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Back in the day, when using MS-DOS or similar DOS operating system, you could easily undelete a file immediately after deleting it because
there was nothing going on that would use that file's space. But with Windows and other modern operating systems, there are background tasks that could potentially write something where the deleted files used to
be.

Yep, it was easier in the DOS days, because the probability of something writing all over the disk before you attempted to unerase something was much lower. It would only be if you were running Windows (3.x), DESQview or select TSRs that you might have a problem, and the first 2 were easy to shut down.


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By "DOS prompt", do you mean you were using MS-DOS (or similar DOS), or do yo N>mean the command prompt in Windows? If this was in Windows, you need to run N>the undelete utility fairly quickly because with the background tasks Windows N>does, Windows could overwrite the deleted file's sectors, making them unable N>be recovered.

The DOS prompt. I just have to be more careful.

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Tony,

Yep, it was easier in the DOS days, because the probability of something TL>writing all over the disk before you attempted to unerase something was much TL>lower. It would only be if you were running Windows (3.x), DESQview or sele TL>TSRs that you might have a problem, and the first 2 were easy to shut down.

That brings back memories...Windows 3.11 and DESQview with
QEMM...wow!!

Daryl

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Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

That brings back memories...Windows 3.11 and DESQview with
QEMM...wow!!

I ran QEMM/DV, until switching to OS/2, which was the best DOS multitasker I've seen. :)


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That brings back memories...Windows 3.11 and DESQview with
QEMM...wow!!

omg does it! I still have my IBM PS2 486 DX2 66 ready to go with win3.11 and desqview. Using Qemm 8.0 as the memory manager. and all the other DOS-day goodness I could get in there. Complete with the win32 tcp/ip it still goes online (sadly) with OLD microslop internet exploder.

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Re: Re: Deleting Files
By: Tony Langdon to Daryl Stout on Sun Jul 02 2017 08:24 am

Tony,

To me, DESQView and QEMM were great for running GT Power under dial-up, and it allowed me to do stuff in the background, while the BBS was running. I think Quarterdeck Software, who made QEMM and DESQview, has long since gone out of business.

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Daryl Stout wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

To me, DESQView and QEMM were great for running GT Power under
dial-up, and it allowed me to do stuff in the background, while the BBS was running. I think Quarterdeck Software, who made QEMM and DESQview,
has long since gone out of business.

Yeah, guess OS/2, Windows and later, Linux kinda killed off their market. :(


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Tony,

To me, DESQView and QEMM were great for running GT Power under dial-up, and it allowed me to do stuff in the background, while the BBS was running. I think Quarterdeck Software, who made QEMM and DESQview, has long since gone out of business.

Yeah, guess OS/2, Windows and later, Linux kinda killed off their market. :(

I used to joke that those who use Linux "have a fetish for penguins".


Daryl

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Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

I used to joke that those who use Linux "have a fetish for penguins".

You're just jealous you don't have penguins living naturally on your side of the equator. :P


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Tony,

You're just jealous you don't have penguins living naturally on your side of TL>the equator. :P

They're just birds wearing tuxedos. <G>

Daryl

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Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

You're just jealous you don't have penguins living naturally on your side

f

the equator. :P

They're just birds wearing tuxedos. <G>

And a mascot for a very useful OS. ;)


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Re: Re: Deleting Files
By: Tony Langdon to Daryl Stout on Wed Jul 05 2017 08:12 am

You're just jealous you don't have penguins living naturally on your side

f

the equator. :P

They're just birds wearing tuxedos. <G>

I love Penguins, they taste like chicken.

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