• BBSLinkNet

    From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to All on Monday, June 19, 2017 01:46:02
    Hello All,

    for all those interested, I have DISSOLVED BBSLink Network, I sent a message to ALL sysops about this on BBSLink Net a month before I discontinued it. I received NOT ONE REPLY from any of the SYSOPS (8 different systems polling) as to whether they were making use of it.

    I created this Network for BBSLink players to be able to speak privately about game strategy, and also for Sysops to have UPDATED ANSI/ASCII, and PNG scorefiles of the games sent to their systems four times daily to be used in bulletins. the ONLY traffic on this net was that of what myself and my co-sysop posted. so the NETWORK is dissolved, and I have disabled ALL the QWKNET acounts that were exchanging packets.

    Please remember BBSLink Network and BBSLINK are two seperate entities. so BBSLINK is still runnig strong.

    It breaks my heart that all these sysops join these networks, then do not post in them.. whats the use in having 50 DEAD networks on your BBS. this does nothing but OVERWHELM regular users. much less NEW users.

    I'm sorry it did'nt work out. but from all my years in the BBS field, when a SysOp takes the time to setup ANYTHING, they also make the time to make their presense known on that resourse.

    take care.

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to KK4QBN on Monday, June 19, 2017 06:56:13
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: KK4QBN to All on Mon Jun 19 2017 01:46 am

    for all those interested, I have DISSOLVED BBSLink Network, I sent a message to ALL sysops about this on BBSLink Net a month before I discontinued it. I received NOT ONE REPLY from any of the SYSOPS (8 different systems polling) as to whether they were making use of it.

    Sorry to hear that. I never saw the message, but in all honesty, I've not been active lately trying to get the old antique car back on the road for the last few months. Sorry it didn't work out, it was a great idea.

    << C.G. >>

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to DesotoFireflite on Monday, June 19, 2017 08:41:26
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: DesotoFireflite to KK4QBN on Mon Jun 19 2017 06:56:13

    for all those interested, I have DISSOLVED BBSLink Network, I sent a
    message to ALL sysops about this on BBSLink Net a month before I
    discontinued it. I received NOT ONE REPLY from any of the SYSOPS (8
    different systems polling) as to whether they were making use of it.

    Sorry to hear that. I never saw the message, but in all honesty, I've not been active lately trying to get the old antique car back on the road for the last few months. Sorry it didn't work out, it was a great idea.


    Its the same for me, I thought maybe the network would help players who were teams discuss strategy in private forums, and also help sysops with updated scorefiles 4 times daily, but not one sould bu my CoSysop posted in this network, and I see no use in yet another dead network floating around.

    I don't consider "BOT POSTS" traffic. those posts can be sent out via listserver. there are WAY too many dead networks out there, that people still say are active networks, yet the sysops waste their time installing a "MAY" get one real message every month or so.. all this is is a waste of time, and I did'nt want BBSLink Net to be "One of those". If all these networks were consolided to 1 good network with a FTN and QWK feed (NOT FIDO) now, that may be a good thing. even have a couple more data echoes on there for apps and doors to communicate with eache other like SBL. I know it would'nt be instant like JSON, but just a though..

    You know when a new sysop comes in and is presented with all these networks that still claim to be active, it must be overwhelming.

    Still even, in most the networks I'm in now, 90% of the traffic is a automated.

    Seems no one wants to post anymore until they need help reading a doc, or being shown how to read a doc.

    <shrug>

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  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to KK4QBN on Monday, June 19, 2017 08:12:42
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: KK4QBN to All on Mon Jun 19 2017 01:46 am

    I created this Network for BBSLink players to be able to speak privately about game strategy, and also for Sysops to have UPDATED ANSI/ASCII, and PNG scorefiles of the games sent to their systems four times daily to be used in bulletins. the ONLY traffic on this net was that of what myself and my co-sysop posted. so the NETWORK is dissolved, and I have disabled ALL the QWKNET acounts that were exchanging packets.

    Hmm I don't recall ever getiing the email or I would have joined it.

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  • From Deepthaw@VERT/DS94 to KK4QBN on Monday, June 19, 2017 13:42:31
    Hello All,

    for all those interested, I have DISSOLVED BBSLink Network, I sent a message to ALL sysops about this on BBSLink Net a month before I discontinued it. I received NOT ONE REPLY from any of the SYSOPS (8 different systems polling) as to whether they were making use of it.

    I created this Network for BBSLink players to be able to speak privately about game strategy, and also for Sysops to have UPDATED ANSI/ASCII, and PNG scorefiles of the games sent to their systems four times daily to be used in bulletins. the ONLY traffic on this net was that of what myself and my co-sysop posted. so the NETWORK is dissolved, and I have disabled ALL the QWKNET acounts that were exchanging packets.

    Please remember BBSLink Network and BBSLINK are two seperate entities. so BBSLINK is still runnig strong.

    It breaks my heart that all these sysops join these networks, then do not post in them.. whats the use in having 50 DEAD networks on your BBS. this does nothing but OVERWHELM regular users. much less NEW users.

    I'm sorry it did'nt work out. but from all my years in the BBS field, when a SysOp takes the time to setup ANYTHING, they also make the time to make their presense known on that resourse.

    take care.

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    KK4QBN BBS

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    Sadness - I just joined it last week or so and was hoping to get my BBS public in time for it to somehow make a difference as to whether the network kept running but I can fully understand why this had to be done.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Monday, June 19, 2017 09:21:00
    Tim,

    It breaks my heart that all these sysops join these networks, then do not pos K>in them.. whats the use in having 50 DEAD networks on your BBS. this does K>nothing but OVERWHELM regular users. much less NEW users.

    I'm sorry it did'nt work out. but from all my years in the BBS field, when a K>SysOp takes the time to setup ANYTHING, they also make the time to make their K>presense known on that resourse.

    I did give it a shot, and downloaded packets...but for some reason, I
    must've had a glitch in my setup with Virtual Advanced (VADV32), as I
    never saw the posts. I've switched to Synchronet BBS software (due to
    MSGID issues with VADV32's FIDONet Tosser), so QWK Networking now is
    automated.

    However, I'm probably going to have to switch FIDONet hubs. The
    ZIP/UNZIP archiver over here won't recognize stuff compressed with PKZIP/PKUNZIP -- and I'm losing a ton of FIDONet echomail.

    Daryl

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Daryl Stout on Monday, June 19, 2017 14:47:03
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Mon Jun 19 2017 09:21 am

    However, I'm probably going to have to switch FIDONet hubs. The
    ZIP/UNZIP archiver over here won't recognize stuff compressed with PKZIP/PKUNZIP -- and I'm losing a ton of FIDONet echomail.

    You're using InfoZip? Seems unlikely that unzip would be an issue unless your data is getting corrupted in transfer. Talked to your uplink about the problem?

    Tried any other compression app like 7-zip? I setup that a while back and I love it. I got it setup to [de]compress all supported formats, it'll add comments to downloaded zip files, can decompress not only .zip but like 15 other formats, it's fast, and I set everything to ultra compression which does a pretty damn good job vs. pkzip/infozip .zip files.

    Only format it doesn't decompress is .zoo, .arc, and a few other obscure formats. It doesn't compress all of them, but what it does support it does nicely.


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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Denn Gray on Monday, June 19, 2017 18:36:56
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Denn Gray to KK4QBN on Mon Jun 19 2017 08:12:42

    Hmm I don't recall ever getiing the email or I would have joined it.
    [0m

    it was advertised a few months.. many other sysops had no issue finding the setup files, etc. thats not really the point though,, could have a thousand systems connected to it, but if none of them are participating, whats the use in having it?

    along with all the OTHER DEAD networks around here.

    I posted, and posted, amd posted, and threw so many diferent ideas out on BBSlink Net, and not ONE sysop even answer (much less players) so if the sysops don't care, why should I.. Why setup a network that is DEAD? why setup a network or a BBS AT ALL if you (as the SYSOP) will not participate in messages, or games..

    thats whats BBS systems are all about.. not just the challenge of building one, or like post people do, just throw a stock SBBS up and call it their own.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Deepthaw on Monday, June 19, 2017 18:44:54
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Deepthaw to KK4QBN on Mon Jun 19 2017 13:42:31


    Sadness - I just joined it last week or so and was hoping to get my BBS public in time for it to somehow make a difference as to whether the network kept running but I can fully understand why this had to be done. [0m

    I hoep you caught my netmail before it was too late.. because the week I was to shut it down was when you signed up, and I was very busy that week.

    Your welcome to host it yourself if you like. be sure to get Mark, over at BBSlinks permission to.

    But it never genereated anything but my systems automated posts, and some posts from myself and my CoSysop DEAVMI, trying to drum up some participation,


    the way I had it set up, it would have been an excellent area for TEAM mates on BBSLink games to discuss their strategy in private, becuse all the GAME echos were set to private. and it was a good way to deliver score files to BBS systems who utilize BBSLink..

    The sysops that did joing had enough iniatave to join but thats it.. never heard not even a reply to a welcome message, or a "test" in any of the echo. and they were all configured properly, I know this for sure. I've been hosting qwknets for a long time, and also run a few ftn<>qwk gateways..

    ... just too many dead networks to waste time setting up.


    like I said, you have my blessing. Please get Marks at BBSLink, if you would like to keep it going. if you need help, let me know.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Monday, June 19, 2017 18:52:18
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Mon Jun 19 2017 09:21:00

    However, I'm probably going to have to switch FIDONet hubs. The
    ZIP/UNZIP archiver over here won't recognize stuff compressed with PKZIP/PKUNZIP -- and I'm losing a ton of FIDONet echomail.

    afaik, anything SBBS makes useof use infozips stuff now instead of pkware..

    hate to hear you are having issues.

    But the isue with BBSLink Network started BEFORE you even became a node.

    and it it possible I may have lost a packet or two when migrating from win32 to linux but I ver seriously doubt it.

    the network was just a bust. I might end up with another type a network than carries a data channel, for ansi, ascii, other data, etc. and ONE discussion channel set to private where users can talk strategy, then a SYSOP only base, and MAYBE a BBSad base for the BBS systems who are part of BBSLink to advertise their systems.

    seems much easier to setup, maintain, and will do the same job.. I'm working on a JS that will just download the Scorefiles on the fly, convert lord color codes (thanks to ken3db) and have its on standalone bulletins program.

    dunno yet.

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  • From Lith@VERT/ASIRTA to KK4QBN on Monday, June 19, 2017 11:18:32
    It breaks my heart that all these sysops join these networks, then do not post in them.. whats the use in having 50 DEAD
    networks on your BBS. this does nothing but OVERWHELM regular users. much less NEW users.
    I'm sorry it did'nt work out. but from all my years in the BBS field, when a SysOp takes the time to setup ANYTHING, they
    also make the time to make their presense known on that resourse.

    I think the BBSLink Message Network is a good idea and just saw the announcement yesterday. When I went to the link to join, there was no file there to download.

    From my limited experience, if you start a message network, it could take 6 months before word gets around and you get a good amount of systems on it.
    Many people run BBS's as a side hobby and sometimes don't check messages for weeks/months.

    Even if you get many BBS's on the network after a few Months, people still may not post that much. That's just how it is. Maybe you can talk to the people who run BBSLink and advertise your network there?

    If you ever decide to bring it back up I would still like to join. I'm a big BBSLink fan.

    Lith,
    asirta.com

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Lith on Monday, June 19, 2017 21:19:17
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Lith to KK4QBN on Mon Jun 19 2017 11:18:32

    I think the BBSLink Message Network is a good idea and just saw the announcement yesterday. When I went to the link to join, there was no file there to download.

    From my limited experience, if you start a message network, it could take 6 months before word gets around and you get a good amount of systems on it. Many people run BBS's as a side hobby and sometimes don't check messages for weeks/months.

    thats true, but in the MANY years I've both been part of networks and hubbed networks, sysops DO put the sysop areas of each network in their newscan, and since I received NO contact from anyone in a 3 week period, I presume they don't care that much about their BBS or networks they install.

    that is one major issue wit BBS systems these days is sysops who just do not engage. I'm just as busy as the next guy, I work 10-16 hours daily six days a week and still have time to do this. and spend time with family.

    I was thinkinging of maybe just creating a net with 3-4 subboards, a bbsads board, sysop area, scores area, and strategy area (general:private) for the users. this may work better.

    give me some time to think over it, I spoke with another sysop and told him if he would like to hub it with Marks ok he could, but I may still be interested in getting into it if enough people are interested. I will also let him be a hub too..

    trust me, I'm not green when it comes to running/creating networks. I have created a few, both Qwknet and FTN. and some popular ones at that, I was one of the co-creators of AcNet back in the day, and we were a very popular network with tons of traffic.

    Even if you get many BBS's on the network after a few Months, people still may not post that much. That's just how it is. Maybe you can talk to the people who run BBSLink and advertise your network there?

    I have dropped that hint with no response, Mark is fairly busy, he stated he would check the network out, and then go from there, have'nt heard back from him and awaiting his reply, I will not send no more out to him, he was kind enough for letting me create a network using his namesake.

    The only reason I created it, is because it would be a perfect companion to BBSlink.

    I just don't think a lot of the other BBS sysops understood exactly what the network was for. I think even some systems signed up that did'nt even offer BBSLink..

    I believe I'll put it back up, and reactiveate the accounts for the time being, and put the setup packet back online. I don't guess it will hurt.. it will take a couple days to get everything correct again. and get the BBSScores to autopost under linux.

    I need to take a little time as to whether I'll leave it like it is or truncate it to just a few areas.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Lith on Monday, June 19, 2017 22:36:42
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: KK4QBN to Lith on Mon Jun 19 2017 21:19:17

    Hello Lith, and All,

    I have decided to give BBSLink one more chance, I will reactive the QWKNET nodes that have already signed in, I will setup the newuser script to accept new ones also.

    and soon I'll fix my scripts back up to keeo the updated scores flowing in their repected area.

    Thanks.

    The setup file can be located:

    http://kk4qbn.synchro.net/bblnknet.zip

    or:

    http://kk4qbn.synchro.net/api/files.ssjs?call=download-file&dir=2024&file=bblnk net.zip

    or:

    ftp://kk4qbn.synchro.net/mainboard.files/2024/bblnknet.zip


    Thanks!

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to ANDROID8675 on Monday, June 19, 2017 22:13:00
    You're using InfoZip? Seems unlikely that unzip would be an issue unless your A>data is getting corrupted in transfer. Talked to your uplink about the proble

    My guess it was coming in PKZIP 2.04g format -- the formats changed
    with PKZIP 2.50 -- and I have a registered copy of both.

    Tried any other compression app like 7-zip? I setup that a while back and I A>love it. I got it setup to [de]compress all supported formats, it'll add A>comments to downloaded zip files, can decompress not only .zip but like 15 A>other formats, it's fast, and I set everything to ultra compression which doe A>a pretty damn good job vs. pkzip/infozip .zip files.

    I can write a batchfile for the BBS, but my programming ENDS at
    setting the clock on the Microwave Oven. If I forget how to do that, I'm
    going to starve to death. :P

    I did get an incoming run to toss earlier, so if the outgoing one does likewise, then I'm of the belief of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
    But, by switching hubs, that saves me 2 connects...leaving just 3
    FIDONet FTN connects. The rest of my networks are done via QWK
    Networking...and for either one, if I can get more than one message
    network from them, all the better.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Monday, June 19, 2017 22:23:00
    Tim,

    afaik, anything SBBS makes useof use infozips stuff now instead of pkware..

    A test packet run from my new hub (Chad Adams) worked. Now, if the
    outgoing ones tonight will work as well, I'll be happy.

    hate to hear you are having issues.

    I doubt there's a Sysop alive who hasn't had any issues with their
    system. I have made a bunch of progress in the last few days, including
    getting some doors online that I previously had trouble with. One of the
    nicest things about Synchronet, is that you can install non-fossil
    doors, without any needed workaround.

    But the isue with BBSLink Network started BEFORE you even became a node.

    Bummer.

    the network was just a bust. I might end up with another type a network than K>carries a data channel, for ansi, ascii, other data, etc. and ONE discussion K>channel set to private where users can talk strategy, then a SYSOP only base, K>and MAYBE a BBSad base for the BBS systems who are part of BBSLink to adverti K>their systems.

    If you do, will it be QWK Networking or FTN?? With Synchronet, the QWK Networking is all automated...no more of this manually polling systems.
    Either way, I'd be interested.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Monday, June 19, 2017 22:19:00
    Tim,

    thats whats BBS systems are all about.. not just the challenge of building on K>or like post people do, just throw a stock SBBS up and call it their own.

    I heard of one Sysop who "had another Sysop help him with the setup".
    Yet, this Sysop did little to no work on it...but when the system came
    up, he took all the credit for work he didn't do!!

    There's an unwritten law of Sysoping, that if you set up a BBS, you do
    the work, customization, organization, etc. Now, if I have a problem
    with a particular area, I need someone to give me an idea of the syntax
    of that setup, then I can take it from there.

    Over the 25 years I've Sysoped, I've set up GT Power, Virtual
    Advanced, and Synchronet...plus many other utilities. If I can do it,
    anyone can. And, this is from a Sysop who can write a batchfile for the BBS...but his programming ENDS at setting the clock on the microwave
    oven. If I forget how to do that, I guess I'll starve to death. <G>

    Daryl, WX1DER

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to KK4QBN on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 06:31:21
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: KK4QBN to Lith on Mon Jun 19 2017 10:36 pm

    Hello Lith, and All,

    I have decided to give BBSLink one more chance, I will reactive the QWKNET nodes that have already signed in, I will setup the newuser script to accept new ones also.

    OK, I'll turn it back on today to poll. Great

    SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 08:45:25
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Mon Jun 19 2017 22:23:00

    afaik, anything SBBS makes useof use infozips stuff now instead of
    pkware..

    A test packet run from my new hub (Chad Adams) worked. Now, if the outgoing ones tonight will work as well, I'll be happy.

    Good!

    hate to hear you are having issues.

    I doubt there's a Sysop alive who hasn't had any issues with their
    system. I have made a bunch of progress in the last few days, including getting some doors online that I previously had trouble with. One of the nicest things about Synchronet, is that you can install non-fossil
    doors, without any needed workaround.

    I WHOLE heartily agree!

    and by te way, a couple of folks have talked me into keepint the BBSLink Network up, so I have re-activated the QWK accounts that have already signed up and hope I have my newuser module fixed back right, it does seems to work correctly but it appears it dupes when asking a couple quuestions for some reason, maybe its swapping back and before between two modules. I dunno I'll get it figured out, it's serving it's function as of this moment,


    and yes, SBBS is one of the EASIEST bbs systems to set doors up on, even under dosemu. I love it :)

    If you do, will it be QWK Networking or FTN?? With Synchronet, the QWK Networking is all automated...no more of this manually polling systems. Either way, I'd be interested.

    I've just installed it back as it was, same conf numbers, your old QWKnet account will work, let me know if I need to forward your pwd to you.

    You can set it to poll every hour if you like, I think I had previously set restrictions because I was on a slower machine, but I have enough power to deal with it now..

    I still have a few things I need to do to get it running the way I like, BUT it is set up to the point where sysops can go ahead and setup on their end.. boom or bust this time I'll leave it going for good..

    When I posted that I was shutting down a few people contacted me wondering why, and I stated, "Hey I posted numerouse times in the network about shutting down with not one single reply!" :)

    Thats cool though.. as one person said it may take 6 or 7 months to start to get people posting. But I have alway thought it was proper etiquitte when joining a network to at least post a "hello I'm here" or test message.. No one even replied to my threats (notices) of shutting it down. the same message was pretty much a roll call..

    but anyway.. its back up.. there are 0 messages an any message base on it, except the Sysop base I believe, I will have the automated scores back up soon.

    73!

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    KK4QBN BBS

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 09:04:17
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Mon Jun 19 2017 22:19:00

    thats whats BBS systems are all about.. not just the challenge of
    building on or like post people do, just throw a stock SBBS up and
    call it their own.

    I heard of one Sysop who "had another Sysop help him with the setup".
    Yet, this Sysop did little to no work on it...but when the system came
    up, he took all the credit for work he didn't do!!

    Yes, I've heard this on a couple occasions,

    I don't care at ALL to help anyone, but I WILL NOT set their system up for them, how are they ever to learn when issues come up. Now if they want to put me on a full time salary to build and maintain the system, I will, but I still request credits posted somwhere in the login/logout sequence.

    I admit, I use MODS built by other people, JS MODS that could easily be changed around to appear completely different that what that coder built, if I do make it appear nothing like the original, somewhere, visible to the public, I always give credit where credit is due to the original coder. its only moral.


    There's an unwritten law of Sysoping, that if you set up a BBS, you do
    the work, customization, organization, etc. Now, if I have a problem
    with a particular area, I need someone to give me an idea of the syntax
    of that setup, then I can take it from there.

    EXACTLY!

    Over the 25 years I've Sysoped, I've set up GT Power, Virtual
    Advanced, and Synchronet...plus many other utilities. If I can do it, anyone can. And, this is from a Sysop who can write a batchfile for the BBS...but his programming ENDS at setting the clock on the microwave
    oven. If I forget how to do that, I guess I'll starve to death. <G>

    Same here, I've setup TriBBS, Proboard, PCBoard, Telegard, Renegade, SBBS, and one obsucre one I cannot think of at the moment, but for some reason loved very much. and every one of these boards were heavy customized. When I ran the probard BBS I was northwest georgias findonet hub, pulling the mail, etc in through satellite. I had these boards customized much much more that I have my present board customized, maybe it was because I was a teen and had more time. but, never will I attempt to open a BBS without some customization. I understand why VERT has'nt that is Robs, BBS, his style, If I were him I would put SBBS out with everything it has now, but have the default menus all in pure b/w ascii and plain as possible. at least so VERT will be unique again, and not have 20 "Mirror" BBS systems of it hanging aroound"

    I'm still awaiting word from Florian of Blocktronics, he had drawn me some bad ass ANSIS for Warzone BBS (My Previous) and says he still has them. I lost them and everything else when that storm (Lightening) fried every circuit in all my computers many years ago, and plan on putting Warzone BBS up also to deal with gamuing, etc. When users loging, they will have the option to continue to KK4QBN or RLOGIN over to Warzone (Which will be back on the WIN machine) since it will not run a webserver.

    sounds good to me.. might start working on it in a bit, if I can rember what the crap U ws just about to work on.. OH BBSlink :-)

    73

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN + (706)-422-9538 + kk4qbn.synchro.net + 24/7/365
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to DesotoFireflite on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 09:07:08
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: DesotoFireflite to KK4QBN on Tue Jun 20 2017 06:31:21

    Hello Lith, and All,

    I have decided to give BBSLink one more chance, I will reactive the
    QWKNET nodes that have already signed in, I will setup the newuser
    script to accept new ones also.

    OK, I'll turn it back on today to poll. Great

    sorry for the confusion, I had just though no one had ANY interest whatsoever when they did'nt reply to the message that I would be shutting the network down in a month if I did'nt get any objections :)

    Now to forge ahead and make it a kickass network.

    BTW yo can set your polls to 1 hourly if you like, my machine can now handle the traffic. I need to make sure the docs are updated.


    Take care.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN + (706)-422-9538 + kk4qbn.synchro.net + 24/7/365
  • From Deepthaw@VERT/DS94 to KK4QBN on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 09:08:40
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: KK4QBN to Lith on Mon Jun 19 2017 21:19:17

    Hello Lith, and All,

    I have decided to give BBSLink one more chance, I will reactive the QWKNET nodes that have already signed in, I will setup the newuser script to accept new ones also.


    You sent this message out *right* after I'd deleted all my of message areas and network settings, so I had to reconfigure it all again, but I'm back in!

    And I think the process of reconfiguring everything resulting in my system sending a copy of DOVE-Net general to the BBSlink general area. :\ I will totally own up to that, even if I'm not sure how I did it (and it doesn't seem to be doing it any more?)

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Deep Space '94 - bbs.deepthaw.com - The Best 1994 Had to Offer
  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to KK4QBN on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 07:51:59
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: KK4QBN to DesotoFireflite on Tue Jun 20 2017 09:07 am

    I have decided to give BBSLink one more chance, I will reactive the
    QWKNET nodes that have already signed in, I will setup the newuser
    script to accept new ones also.

    Just set it up, Hopefully I did it right.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ the Outwest BBS - outwestbbs.com
  • From Zero Reader@VERT/ALKY to KK4QBN on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 11:21:00
    On 06/19/17, KK4QBN said the following...

    it was advertised a few months.. many other sysops had no issue finding the setup files, etc. thats not really the point though,, could have a thousand systems connected to it, but if none of them are participating, whats the use in having it?

    I must have missed the memo about it as well because I would have joined up.
    I don't scan the advertisement echoes anymore, so I guess I just missed it.

    I think the greater problem is that people mostly play LORD and not much else. I'd love to see BBSLink stats on which games get used the most.

    p.s., I'm a KK4 also...

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Raspberry Pi)
    * Origin: Alcoholiday / Est. 1995 / alco.bbs.io
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Deepthaw on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 11:02:14
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Deepthaw to KK4QBN on Tue Jun 20 2017 09:08:40

    You sent this message out *right* after I'd deleted all my of message areas and network settings, so I had to reconfigure it all again, but I'm back in!

    Oops, sorry.. but welcome back!

    And I think the process of reconfiguring everything resulting in my system sending a copy of DOVE-Net general to the BBSlink general area. :\ I will totally own up to that, even if I'm not sure how I did it (and it doesn't seem to be doing it any more?)
    [0m

    The ONLY one that may have done that was the General area. BUT it really should have because if you imported the subs.txt I provided it has an internal code prefix.

    I'll keep an eye on it.. I still have some work to do on getting the scores posting script going, so its all a work in progress anyway :)

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN + (706)-422-9538 + kk4qbn.synchro.net + 24/7/365
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Denn Gray on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 13:27:10
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Denn Gray to KK4QBN on Tue Jun 20 2017 07:51:59

    Just set it up, Hopefully I did it right.

    we shall see in time. :-)

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN + (706)-422-9538 + kk4qbn.synchro.net + 24/7/365
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Zero Reader on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 13:29:09
    Re: Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Zero Reader to KK4QBN on Tue Jun 20 2017 11:21:00

    I must have missed the memo about it as well because I would have joined up. I don't scan the advertisement echoes anymore, so I guess I just missed it.

    Tah memo was actually in BBSlink NET itself, which had NO replies, which made me think no one was actually using it.

    I think the greater problem is that people mostly play LORD and not much else. I'd love to see BBSLink stats on which games get used the most.

    Those score files will be in their own message base, once I get my scripts back up.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN + (706)-422-9538 + kk4qbn.synchro.net + 24/7/365
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 08:26:00
    Tim,

    I believe I'll put it back up, and reactiveate the accounts for the time bein K>and put the setup packet back online. I don't guess it will hurt.. it will ta K>a couple days to get everything correct again. and get the BBSScores to K>autopost under linux.

    I need to take a little time as to whether I'll leave it like it is or trunca K>it to just a few areas.

    Just let me know what you'd like to do on it. I likely will be offline
    from Thursday into next week, due to the combined effects of the
    remnants of what may become Tropical Cyclone Cindy...and an usually
    strong cold front impinging on the region. Heavy flooding rain, gusty
    winds, and tornadoes, look to be in the cards. So, I have to cram all my
    BBS work in today, since I'm helping my 90 year old Mom with errands
    tomorrow.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ The wheel's spinning, but the hamster's dead.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 08:40:00
    Tim,

    I have decided to give BBSLink one more chance, I will reactive the QWKNET K>nodes that have already signed in, I will setup the newuser script to accept K>new ones also.

    I'll have to get my credentials again, as I had deleted the setup from
    my telnet client when you originally shut it down.

    http://kk4qbn.synchro.net/bblnknet.zip

    I had ot get it this way, as the FTP deal didn't work in my
    browser...but I could've typed it in wrong. :P

    Daryl
    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ This tagline is freeware; future support is unavailable.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 09:45:21
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to ANDROID8675 on Mon Jun 19 2017 10:13 pm

    Tried any other compression app like 7-zip? I setup that a while back
    and I love it. I got it setup to [de]compress all supported formats,

    I can write a batchfile for the BBS, but my programming ENDS at
    setting the clock on the Microwave Oven. If I forget how to do that, I'm going to starve to death. :P

    No programming required, install 7-zip, make sure the executables are in your PATH, add the necessary entries into scfg. I went as far as to add them to
    the Husky utils configuration as well (use it for nodelist compling mostly).

    I've uploaded a bunch of old ST files that are in weird compression formats, Synchronet can view the file contents online, extract descriptions, add comments/ads before sending to downloaders.

    Pretty sure 7z supports both pkzip 2.5 and 2.0x, but might be wrong.


    ... He who laughs, lasts.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Shodan's Core @ ShodansCore.com (Port 2323 for Nethack)
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 15:18:32
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Tue Jun 20 2017 08:26:00

    Just let me know what you'd like to do on it. I likely will be offline from Thursday into next week, due to the combined effects of the
    remnants of what may become Tropical Cyclone Cindy...and an usually
    strong cold front impinging on the region. Heavy flooding rain, gusty winds, and tornadoes, look to be in the cards. So, I have to cram all my BBS work in today, since I'm helping my 90 year old Mom with errands tomorrow.

    I'll leave it as it was in the original subs.txt it will serve its purpose, I just have some more tweaking to do on my side to get the score files floweing again.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN + (706)-422-9538 + kk4qbn.synchro.net + 24/7/365
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 15:26:08
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Tue Jun 20 2017 08:40:00

    Tim,

    I have decided to give BBSLink one more chance, I will reactive the
    QWKNET nodes that have already signed in, I will setup the newuser
    script to accept new ones also.


    I sent you an email with your username/password.

    http://kk4qbn.synchro.net/bblnknet.zip

    This is a www link, it can be downloaded there or via ftp/telnet.

    after setting up, if your system has issues contacting mine, you can use net BIN file included in the setup packet as a replacement of the qnet-ftp.js.

    I had ot get it this way, as the FTP deal didn't work in my
    browser...but I could've typed it in wrong. :P

    I may have that directory shut of to guest users, you would have to authenticate if thats the case, I will check and make sure it open to all users. that would also not allow you download via www if you did'nt login on the website, or the HTML index page on FTP.

    Yep, that was the issue, thanks for letting me know, now any guest/anon user can download just as they can all the amateur radio files. I have all other file area locked to guest access to keep googleboot from killing my bandwidht.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN + (706)-422-9538 + kk4qbn.synchro.net + 24/7/365
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 15:40:00
    Tim,

    A test packet run from my new hub (Chad Adams) worked. Now, if the outgoing ones tonight will work as well, I'll be happy.

    Good!

    At times, there are still some bad packets, but I set it up to do a
    poll 4 times a day.

    I doubt there's a Sysop alive who hasn't had any issues with their system. I have made a bunch of progress in the last few days, including getting some doors online that I previously had trouble with. One of the nicest things about Synchronet, is that you can install non-fossil doors, without any needed workaround.

    I WHOLE heartily agree!

    There's also "The Sysop's Curse"...when the computer and/or BBS
    software can tell when the Sysop is going away for a period of more than
    a day. So, like new puppies, it develops "separation anixety", and
    crashes. :P

    and by te way, a couple of folks have talked me into keepint the BBSLink K>Network up, so I have re-activated the QWK accounts that have already signed K>and hope I have my newuser module fixed back right, it does seems to work K>correctly but it appears it dupes when asking a couple quuestions for some K>reason, maybe its swapping back and before between two modules. I dunno I'll K>get it figured out, it's serving it's function as of this moment,

    I got it set up over here, now that I recovered my password. I just
    did a poll, and there wasn't anything yet...but I will post something
    shortly.

    and yes, SBBS is one of the EASIEST bbs systems to set doors up on, even unde K>dosemu. I love it :)

    It's tedious, but once you figure out the basic format, it's easy.

    I've just installed it back as it was, same conf numbers, your old QWKnet K>account will work, let me know if I need to forward your pwd to you.

    I logged onto your BBS, and got it. I found the conference numbers in
    the info pack.

    You can set it to poll every hour if you like, I think I had previously set K>restrictions because I was on a slower machine, but I have enough power to de K>with it now..

    I think 4 times a day is plenty.

    When I posted that I was shutting down a few people contacted me wondering wh K>and I stated, "Hey I posted numerouse times in the network about shutting dow K>with not one single reply!" :)

    Nothing like rattling folks cages to get a response. :P

    but anyway.. its back up.. there are 0 messages an any message base on it, K>except the Sysop base I believe, I will have the automated scores back up soo

    I'll be interested in the scores.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ The number you've dialed...9-1-1...has been changed.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 15:43:00
    Tim,

    I heard of one Sysop who "had another Sysop help him with the setup". Yet, this Sysop did little to no work on it...but when the system came up, he took all the credit for work he didn't do!!

    Yes, I've heard this on a couple occasions,

    Talk about leeches!!

    I don't care at ALL to help anyone, but I WILL NOT set their system up for K>them, how are they ever to learn when issues come up. Now if they want to put K>me on a full time salary to build and maintain the system, I will, but I stil K>request credits posted somwhere in the login/logout sequence.

    It's either their system, or someone elses.

    I admit, I use MODS built by other people, JS MODS that could easily be chang K>around to appear completely different that what that coder built, if I do mak K>it appear nothing like the original, somewhere, visible to the public, I alwa K>give credit where credit is due to the original coder. its only moral.

    Definitely. I will be glad to give credit where credit is due.

    There's an unwritten law of Sysoping, that if you set up a BBS, you do the work, customization, organization, etc. Now, if I have a problem with a particular area, I need someone to give me an idea of the syntax of that setup, then I can take it from there.

    EXACTLY!

    Too bad there may still be some who disagree with that. Basically,
    they're lazy.

    sounds good to me.. might start working on it in a bit, if I can rember what K>the crap U ws just about to work on.. OH BBSlink :-)

    Three things fail when you get older. The first is memory... ... ...
    ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

    Darn!! I forgot the other two!! :)

    Daryl, WX1DER

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Do not use elevator in case of fire. Water works better.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 18:26:28
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Mon Jun 19 2017 09:21 am

    However, I'm probably going to have to switch FIDONet hubs. The
    ZIP/UNZIP archiver over here won't recognize stuff compressed with PKZIP/PKUNZIP -- and I'm losing a ton of FIDONet echomail.

    I doubt very much the problem is with your hub. What is your zip/unzip configuration in ctrl/sbbsecho.ini? You previously posted your configuration in SCFG but that has no effect on SBBSecho.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #46:
    Synchronet External X/Y/ZMODEM protocol driver (SEXYZ) was introduced in 2005. Norco, CA WX: 92.6øF, 32.0% humidity, 6 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 18:29:25
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to ANDROID8675 on Mon Jun 19 2017 10:13 pm

    You're using InfoZip? Seems unlikely that unzip would be an issue unless your A>data is getting corrupted in transfer. Talked to your uplink about the proble

    My guess it was coming in PKZIP 2.04g format -- the formats changed
    with PKZIP 2.50 -- and I have a registered copy of both.

    No, that's not true. While PKZIP v2.5 does add some new compression schemes, they are optional and disabled by default. Unless you try *really* hard, any .zip files created with PKZIP v2.5 can be extracted with PKUNZIP v2.04g and vice-versa is always fine.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #50:
    JAM and Squish were considered before developing Synchronet Message Base format.
    Norco, CA WX: 92.6øF, 31.0% humidity, 8 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 20:58:00
    Tim,

    I'll leave it as it was in the original subs.txt it will serve its purpose, I K>just have some more tweaking to do on my side to get the score files floweing K>again.

    I got the areas set up, and posted some messages in several
    areas...including on some on how to get games going under Synchronet.
    It's probably a simple error I'm overlooking, but my brain is too fried
    right now to think of it.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ What are turkeys thankful for?? Vegeterians.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 21:00:00
    Tim,

    I sent you an email with your username/password.

    Got that already, and got the QWK Networking set up for it.

    after setting up, if your system has issues contacting mine, you can use net K>BIN file included in the setup packet as a replacement of the qnet-ftp.js.

    I wondered what that file was.

    Yep, that was the issue, thanks for letting me know, now any guest/anon user K>can download just as they can all the amateur radio files. I have all other K>file area locked to guest access to keep googleboot from killing my bandwidht

    Yeah, it bugs the daylights out of mine...about as much as these bots
    with "root", "admin", etc.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 17:43:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Denn Gray <=-

    thats whats BBS systems are all about.. not just the challenge of
    building one, or like post people do, just throw a stock SBBS up and
    call it their own.

    My main interest in BBSing is communication, hence my presence in the echoes. :) Only reason I didn't join your net is I haven't joined BBSLink or any of the other door/game server platforms.


    ... No viruses detected. Must be a pair of Nanites.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    * Origin: Freeway BBS - freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 17:50:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    There's an unwritten law of Sysoping, that if you set up a BBS, you
    do the work, customization, organization, etc. Now, if I have a problem with a particular area, I need someone to give me an idea of the syntax
    of that setup, then I can take it from there.

    I live by that rule. Not being an artist, that's why my systems tend not to have much in the way of customised visuals. But my work tends to be in gathering message areas, getting them configured, and offering facilities. Back in the day, that meant installing QWK and Bluewave doors for offline users, but today, offline functionality is built into BBS software.

    Over the 25 years I've Sysoped, I've set up GT Power, Virtual
    Advanced, and Synchronet...plus many other utilities. If I can do it, anyone can. And, this is from a Sysop who can write a batchfile for the BBS...but his programming ENDS at setting the clock on the microwave
    oven. If I forget how to do that, I guess I'll starve to death. <G>

    In the DOS days, I found batch scripting (in DOS back then) was essential. My BBS batch file from that era was a work of art. :) I have to see if I can locate a copy one of these days. :) I don't know how you managed to run a BBS back in the day without being able to write batch files or other equivalent scripts. Now THAT is impressive! :)


    ... Your most unhappy customers are your greatest source of learning. - B.Gates --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    * Origin: Freeway BBS - freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 17:59:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    I don't care at ALL to help anyone, but I WILL NOT set their system up
    for them, how are they ever to learn when issues come up. Now if they
    want to put me on a full time salary to build and maintain the system,
    I will, but I still request credits posted somwhere in the login/logout sequence.

    Yes, if someone wants to run a BBS, they should be ready to do the work themselves, or at least learn with that as an aim. When I handed my BBS to a friend, I did decide to stay on as co-sysop, because my main reason for handing it over was I moved house and it wasn't practical to get a second line. The alternative was to shut down. However, over the years, the new sysop gradually got the hang of how it all worked, and I spent less time working on the system and more as a regular user. By the end of it, he was capable of doing almost everything, it was only the really oddball stuff (which I often worked out on the fly) that I was needed for. :)

    I did turn my attention to gating Internet email and Usenet news, which I did with my point system. My ability to take on a new technical challenge was always better, because that was simply what my brain was really good at doing. :) As for ANSI art and that sort of thing, I was (and am) crap at that.


    ... DISK ERROR: DISK ERROR: DISK ERROR: @$%#&%!! *WHACK* C:\>
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    * Origin: Freeway BBS - freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 06:50:04
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Tue Jun 20 2017 21:00:00

    Yeah, it bugs the daylights out of mine...about as much as these bots
    with "root", "admin", etc.

    most definatly

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN + (706)-422-9538 + kk4qbn.synchro.net + 24/7/365
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 06:51:08
    Re: Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Wed Jun 21 2017 17:43:00

    My main interest in BBSing is communication, hence my presence in the echoes. :) Only reason I didn't join your net is I haven't joined BBSLink or any of the other door/game server platforms.

    Jump on it, you don't kmow what your missing. BBSLink is the bomb!

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN + (706)-422-9538 + kk4qbn.synchro.net + 24/7/365
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 21:56:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Jump on it, you don't kmow what your missing. BBSLink is the bomb!

    Maybe I should, though I wouldn't do it justice, not being one for games. Would need more users to really justify it.


    ... If you call me insane again, I'll eat your other eye.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    * Origin: Freeway BBS - freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 08:30:48
    Re: Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Wed Jun 21 2017 21:56:00

    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Jump on it, you don't kmow what your missing. BBSLink is the bomb!

    Maybe I should, though I wouldn't do it justice, not being one for games. Would need more users to really justify it.

    if yo build it, and advertise it... they will come..


    even if just like lord, there are two lord games plating withouth 50 active in each.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ KK4QBN + (706)-422-9538 + kk4qbn.synchro.net + 24/7/365
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DIGITAL MAN on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 09:40:00
    Rob,

    I doubt very much the problem is with your hub. What is your zip/unzip DM>configuration in ctrl/sbbsecho.ini? You previously posted your configuration DM>SCFG but that has no effect on SBBSecho.

    Well, the problem was that from the default sbbsecho.ini
    configuration, I still got errors. But, when I start the unzip command
    with -Cojqq (then the rest of it), it works.

    But, by switching to a new FIDONet Hub, who is getting stuff from my 2
    former FIDOnet connects (one the Region 19 Hub, as my system is classed
    as a "regional independent", as there are no other FIDONet BBS's in
    Arkansas), it saved me 2 connects.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Smile if you're not wearing any underwear.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to TONY LANGDON on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 09:44:00
    Tony,

    There's an unwritten law of Sysoping, that if you set up a BBS, you do the work, customization, organization, etc. Now, if I have a problem with a particular area, I need someone to give me an idea of the syntax of that setup, then I can take it from there.

    I live by that rule. Not being an artist, that's why my systems tend not to TL>have much in the way of customised visuals. But my work tends to be in TL>gathering message areas, getting them configured, and offering facilities. TL>Back in the day, that meant installing QWK and Bluewave doors for offline TL>users, but today, offline functionality is built into BBS software.

    I prefer QWK Mail for messaging. That way, I can download stuff, and
    read it at my leisure.

    In the DOS days, I found batch scripting (in DOS back then) was essential. TL>BBS batch file from that era was a work of art. :) I have to see if I can TL>locate a copy one of these days. :) I don't know how you managed to run a B TL>back in the day without being able to write batch files or other equivalent TL>scripts. Now THAT is impressive! :)

    I basically learned it, as well as touch typing, on my own. I never
    took a programming or typing course in my life. Of course, I do better
    at touch typing than at programming. I remember typewriters with built
    in "liquid paper" for corrections. At least with the computer, there's a delete/backspace key. <G> But, that reminds me of the joke which asks
    "How can you tell when a blond has been at your computer??" The answer
    is "There are splotches of "white out" all over the monitor". <BG>

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ NO CARRIER -- but I've got some warships and F-15's.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 09:44:00
    Tim,

    Yeah, it bugs the daylights out of mine...about as much as these bots with "root", "admin", etc.

    most definatly

    But, for the most part, those are basically harmless. I keep adding to
    my trashcan (name.can) file every day. :P

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ "Daddy, what does 'FORMATTING DRIVE C' mean??"
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to TONY LANGDON on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 09:47:00
    Tony,

    :) As for ANSI art and that sort of thing, I was (and am) crap at that.

    What ANSI screens I created, and even the .ASC screens for Synchronet,
    I just used the old MS-DOS Editor, and entered the basic codes, after
    creating the file in straight ASCII text...then adding high ascii
    characters, where desired.

    So, you're in good company. <G>

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI!
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 09:48:00
    Tim,

    Jump on it, you don't kmow what your missing. BBSLink is the bomb!

    Just don't let it blow up my QWK packet. <G>

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Deepend@VERT/RDBBS to KK4QBN on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 21:52:54
    I'd be interested in joining.. Link to download the setup file was not up so I will try again later.

    Thanks for keeping it up.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ RetroDigital BBS - rdnetbbs.com
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Thursday, June 22, 2017 01:46:20
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Wed Jun 21 2017 09:44:00

    Tim,

    Yeah, it bugs the daylights out of mine...about as much as these
    bots with "root", "admin", etc.

    most definatly

    But, for the most part, those are basically harmless. I keep adding to
    my trashcan (name.can) file every day. :P


    Yea it's most definatky more fodder for the trashcan

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Deepend on Thursday, June 22, 2017 01:49:25
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Deepend to KK4QBN on Wed Jun 21 2017 21:52:54

    I'd be interested in joining.. Link to download the setup file was not up so I will try again later.

    Thanks for keeping it up.


    Its all up on my webite now http://kk4qbn.synchro.net. the setup packet eveb now has a modded version of ECHickens Bulletin Program,

    and all the how tos sould be very self explanatory.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Thursday, June 22, 2017 07:56:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    if yo build it, and advertise it... they will come..


    even if just like lord, there are two lord games plating withouth 50 active in each.

    Well, you've talked me into it lol, probably a project for the weekend or early next week. Right now, I'm likely to drop off the edge of the earth at any moment, the tech is scheduled to do work on the line any time in the next 7 hours. :)

    And I will add BBSLinkNet when the time comes. :)


    ... A bird in the hand's better than one overhead.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    * Origin: Freeway BBS - freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Thursday, June 22, 2017 08:12:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    I prefer QWK Mail for messaging. That way, I can download stuff, and read it at my leisure.

    That and a better interface all round. :)

    batch files or other equivalent
    scripts. Now THAT is impressive! :)

    I basically learned it, as well as touch typing, on my own. I never
    took a programming or typing course in my life. Of course, I do better
    at touch typing than at programming. I remember typewriters with built
    in "liquid paper" for corrections. At least with the computer, there's

    I learned most of my batch scripting on my own, as well as Linux scripting. I tried touch typing at school, and even in the early 1980s, I knew my future was going to involve a lot of keyboard time, as the PC revolution was just getting started, and I could see myself working with computers.

    a delete/backspace key. <G> But, that reminds me of the joke which asks "How can you tell when a blond has been at your computer??" The answer
    is "There are splotches of "white out" all over the monitor". <BG>

    While I did have a little chuckle, that is a bit dated. I now work in an environment that's at the forefront of inclusiveness - it's an autistic driven advocacy and support org, so a lot of the old jokes don't elicit the same response (if I was blonde, I would have had a real laugh though).

    Yeah it's incredible how things have changed. One might say it's political correctness gone mad, but at the coal face, I've seen the harm non inclusive behaviour does, and know it starts at home (i.e. me). :)

    Jokes I make today are more likely to be at my own expense, implicitly or explicitly, directly or by association, or the usual targets like Microsost - How many Microsoft programmers does it take to change a light bulb? None - they just define darkness as an industry standard instead. :)

    I also like:

    How many flies does it take to screw in a light bulb?

    Only 2, but you have to wonder how they gto in there! :D

    I wonder what the answer is for "How many hams does it take to change a light bulb?" (since we're both hams ;) ) :D

    or

    How many sysops does it take to change a light bulb? ;)


    ... Before you find your handsome prince, you've got to kiss a lot of frogs. --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    * Origin: Freeway BBS - freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Thursday, June 22, 2017 08:13:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    What ANSI screens I created, and even the .ASC screens for
    Synchronet, I just used the old MS-DOS Editor, and entered the basic codes, after creating the file in straight ASCII text...then adding
    high ascii characters, where desired.

    So, you're in good company. <G>

    Still trquires some ability to "draw" something. :)


    ... Information deteriorates upward through bureaucracies.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    * Origin: Freeway BBS - freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Thursday, June 22, 2017 08:17:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    Jump on it, you don't kmow what your missing. BBSLink is the bomb!

    Just don't let it blow up my QWK packet. <G>

    ROFLMAO!!! :D


    ... Old Celts never die, they just have harp failure.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    * Origin: Freeway BBS - freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to KK4QBN on Thursday, June 22, 2017 05:35:26
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Thu Jun 22 2017 01:46 am

    Yeah, it bugs the daylights out of mine...about as much as these DS>> bots with "root", "admin", etc.

    most definatly

    But, for the most part, those are basically harmless. I keep adding to my trashcan (name.can) file every day. :P

    Yea it's most definatky more fodder for the trashcan

    My ports are closed except for the ports I forward for my BBS
    I set my BBS to only allow 2 simultaneous connections, I do have a few ip's in my ip.can but these are the persistant ip's that keep trying to hit the BBS.
    I don't see much activity anymore since I closed all the un needed ports.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ the Outwest BBS - outwestbbs.com
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Denn Gray on Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:41:51
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Denn Gray to KK4QBN on Thu Jun 22 2017 05:35:26

    My ports are closed except for the ports I forward for my BBS
    I set my BBS to only allow 2 simultaneous connections, I do have a few ip's in my ip.can but these are the persistant ip's that keep trying to hit the BBS. I don't see much activity anymore since I closed all the un needed ports. [0m

    Mirai has been known to try port 25, but works on ports 22 and 23 mainly, and if you you are fairly new, thats why you have'nt been bombarded yet. just wait until your address gets out there for a while.

    were you saying you only allow 2 connections from the same IP or you have 2 nodes, if its the latter, once these do start, your nodes will stay full ALL the time. and no one will be able to login.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:34:00
    Tim,

    But, for the most part, those are basically harmless. I keep adding to my trashcan (name.can) file every day. :P

    Yea it's most definatky more fodder for the trashcan

    At least I don't have flies, or a horrid stench emanating from the
    computer. <G> But, I have to chuckle at the stupidity of these idiots.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ I tried snorting Coke; but the bubbles went up my nose.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to TONY LANGDON on Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:48:00
    Tony,

    What ANSI screens I created, and even the .ASC screens for Synchronet, I just used the old MS-DOS Editor, and entered the basic codes, after creating the file in straight ASCII text...then adding high ascii characters, where desired.

    So, you're in good company. <G>

    Still trquires some ability to "draw" something. :)

    As long as we're not drawing flies. :P

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Windows Vista7Up Virus: Renders 16-bit programs useless.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Friday, June 23, 2017 06:48:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    As long as we're not drawing flies. :P

    Hmm, that one almost hit a plane, it went so far overhead. :P


    ... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (S)lap nearest innocent bystander.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    * Origin: Freeway BBS - freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Thursday, June 22, 2017 18:52:36
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Thu Jun 22 2017 10:34:00

    But, for the most part, those are basically harmless. I keep
    adding to my trashcan (name.can) file every day. :P

    Yea it's most definatky more fodder for the trashcan

    At least I don't have flies, or a horrid stench emanating from the computer. <G> But, I have to chuckle at the stupidity of these idiots.

    Daryl

    The owners of these companies who release the IOT devices that succomb to this crap so easily should be held responsible for the damage inflicted by this.. including, but not limited to data charges.

    The owners of the devices that these attacks are coming from more than likely have NO IDEA that their TV or rooted phone is one little part of a very large super computer bent on world domination :-)

    I created one of the DUMBEST trojans when I was about 11 that ended up making it to a "few" newspapers. I won't say anymore about it. I did it just for the "heck" of it, and really never thought anyone would take the bait.. well.. the wrong person in the wrong building took the bait, and thats all I'll say about that.. hopefully there is a statute of limitation on that.. but I'm not confirming anything with this statement :-)..

    companies that are entrusted with our private info and money, NEED to hire crackers/hackers to exploit their code to keep our stuff safe..

    I believe when Mirai finally does what it is gearing up to do, it will cause a mess.. We need to find some way to counteract these Bots when they try to access our systems, I'm sure something can be done to make them thing they have what they are looking for, then trap, kill, and let the IOT go on its merry way.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From Mickey@VERT/OXFORDMI to Tony Langdon on Thursday, June 22, 2017 20:33:00
    On 06/22/17, Tony Langdon considered the following...

    a delete/backspace key. <G> But, that reminds me of the joke which as "How can you tell when a blond has been at your computer??" The answe is "There are splotches of "white out" all over the monitor". <BG>


    Theres an alcoholic drink called a red-headed slut. I once asked for a blonde-headed slut, but the glass came back empty.

    Central Ontario Remote BBS
    Telnet: oxfordmi.synchro.net

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A33 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Central Ontario Remote
  • From mark lewis@VERT to KK4QBN on Friday, June 23, 2017 01:39:58
    On 2017 Jun 22 18:52:36, you wrote to Daryl Stout:

    I believe when Mirai finally does what it is gearing up to do, it will cause a mess..

    MIRAI has already done what it was intended to do... build and maintain a botnet... that's all it was intended to do... the source code is out there... go look for yourself ;)

    when the code was released, that lead to variants... some use a different "keyword" than "MIRAI" and some also look for additional IoT devices to infest... some have some additional means of infestation but all are variants of MIRAI... few people realize the botnet wars that go on all the time... gamers DDoSing other gamers, blackhats DDoSing some site that has offended them, etc...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... Vegetarian ham now in chicken flavour?!?
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to mark lewis on Friday, June 23, 2017 08:46:47
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: mark lewis to KK4QBN on Fri Jun 23 2017 01:39:58

    I believe when Mirai finally does what it is gearing up to do, it
    will cause a mess..

    MIRAI has already done what it was intended to do... build and maintain a botnet... that's all it was intended to do... the source code is out there... go look for yourself ;)


    and you don't think all of this is'nt happening to server a larger purpose?

    Its not all about some game nerd sitting in his basement getting pissed at ther person that wont let him on his minecraft server.


    millions of devices infected, maybe more.. thats distributed super computer power.. for free.. and do you really see anyone do much of anything about it?

    sooner or later, this will serve a larger purpose. maybe I'm just overhginking and should put my tinfoil hat back on, whatever.. I think some of the varients out there are mining bitcoins.. or "Adolfcoin" to be exact.. using peoples data and processing power without their knowledge.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to KK4QBN on Friday, June 23, 2017 06:28:06
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: KK4QBN to Denn Gray on Thu Jun 22 2017 11:41 am

    My ports are closed except for the ports I forward for my BBS
    I set my BBS to only allow 2 simultaneous connections, I do have a few ip's in my ip.can but these are the persistant ip's that keep trying to hit the BBS. I don't see much activity anymore since I closed all the un needed ports. [0m

    Mirai has been known to try port 25, but works on ports 22 and 23 mainly, and if you you are fairly new, thats why you have'nt been bombarded yet. just wait until your address gets out there for a while.

    I was being bomb barded before I closed my ports, and yes the Mirai was hitting my server, there is an option in the ini file to se the number of concurrent connections by a single ip address.


    were you saying you only allow 2 connections from the same IP or you have 2 nodes, if its the latter, once these do start, your nodes will stay full ALL the time. and no one will be able to login.

    No I have 12 nodes, the first 10 are for user connections, 11 and 12 are for BBS callouts and such.
    there were times before I did this that over half of my nodes were being bombarded.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ the Outwest BBS - outwestbbs.com
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Friday, June 23, 2017 09:11:00
    Tim,

    I believe when Mirai finally does what it is gearing up to do, it will cause K>mess.. We need to find some way to counteract these Bots when they try to K>access our systems, I'm sure something can be done to make them thing they ha K>what they are looking for, then trap, kill, and let the IOT go on its merry K>way.

    Never mind that "DEL *.* gives max disk space". For that matter, it
    reminds me of a woman who said her system crashed, because she was low
    on space. She said "The system was slow as a drunk, so I deleted the
    pickled files". What she was referring to were the "dill" (DLL - data
    link library) files. No wonder her system crashed!! I wonder if she was
    a blond?? <G>

    On another note, what are the conference numbers for BBSLinkNet?? I
    saw in the info pack they were 9001, 9003, 9005, etc. -- but when the
    deal tossed today, the number started with 2001, 2003, 2005, etc. I'd
    like to get the conference numbers right. Also, my system deletes
    anything over 30 days old, as I don't consider messages timely after
    that point...and I did note a bunch of messages get zapped for that.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Drink Canada Dry. Maybe you can't, but it's fun trying.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Mickey on Friday, June 23, 2017 20:28:00
    Mickey wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Theres an alcoholic drink called a red-headed slut. I once asked for a blonde-headed slut, but the glass came back empty.

    Oops. :)


    ... These mating rituals you humans indulge in are quite disgusting.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS in Bendigo, Australia.
  • From mark lewis@VERT to KK4QBN on Friday, June 23, 2017 18:31:08
    On 2017 Jun 23 08:46:46, you wrote to me:

    I believe when Mirai finally does what it is gearing up to do, it
    will cause a mess..

    MIRAI has already done what it was intended to do... build and
    maintain a botnet... that's all it was intended to do... the source
    code is out there... go look for yourself ;)

    and you don't think all of this is'nt happening to server a larger purpose?

    nope... i've been watching it too long... a bunch of it is gamers bitching at each other and taking it so far as a DDoS their opponents or the game servers so they can try to gain an advantage and achieve a higher score in the game... one of the reasons why they're known as skiddies, too...

    Its not all about some game nerd sitting in his basement getting
    pissed at ther person that wont let him on his minecraft server.

    you'd be surprised...

    millions of devices infected, maybe more.. thats distributed super computer power.. for free..

    yes it is... but it isn't all just for knocking gamers off, either... they're also selling access to DDoS services... it is another avenue of income... they're already making some via endorsements and streaming revenue...

    and do you really see anyone do much of anything about it?

    there are services available to try to mitigate DDoS attacks... the real fix will come from the awakening... the question is if the awakening will arrive in
    time...

    sooner or later, this will serve a larger purpose. maybe I'm just overhginking and should put my tinfoil hat back on, whatever.. I think some of the varients out there are mining bitcoins.. or "Adolfcoin" to
    be exact.. using peoples data and processing power without their knowledge.

    there are some of those out there but they are not related to MIRAI... there's too many of us watching MIRAI to not have seen that... digging about in honeypots turns up all kinds of stuff but nothing to do with bitcoins and MIRAI...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... Are the taglines too long, or is the tagline-space to sh
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Denn Gray on Friday, June 23, 2017 20:01:47
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Denn Gray to KK4QBN on Fri Jun 23 2017 06:28:06

    were you saying you only allow 2 connections from the same IP or you
    have 2 nodes, if its the latter, once these do start, your nodes will
    stay full ALL the time. and no one will be able to login.

    [1m No I have 12 nodes, the first 10 are for user connections, 11 and 12 are for BBS callouts and such.
    there were times before I did this that over half of my nodes were being bombarded.

    Ah, gotcha.. It's gotten pretty good over here now since the new implementations have been put into sbbs. there are still times when 6 or 7 nodes fire up at once. but it is nowhere near as bad as it used to be,

    I'd love to be able to send some kind of code sequence back to the infected bot to disable the code. has anyone ever had their hands on the code to see what it actually does when it gains access? I know it's job is to infiltrate and replicate. but what else does it do? DDOS attacks and the such? there should be a way to stop this thing. because everyone knows that manufacturers won't even spend money to upgrade firmware, much less fix this issue. (I think) Roku is staying on top of the issue. although I do know roku does have a telnet server on it for its android based "remote control".

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Friday, June 23, 2017 20:07:15
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Fri Jun 23 2017 09:11:00

    Never mind that "DEL *.* gives max disk space". For that matter, it reminds me of a woman who said her system crashed, because she was low
    on space. She said "The system was slow as a drunk, so I deleted the pickled files". What she was referring to were the "dill" (DLL - data link library) files. No wonder her system crashed!! I wonder if she was
    a blond?? <G>

    ROFLMAO!

    On another note, what are the conference numbers for BBSLinkNet?? I
    saw in the info pack they were 9001, 9003, 9005, etc. -- but when the deal tossed today, the number started with 2001, 2003, 2005, etc. I'd like to get the conference numbers right. Also, my system deletes anything over 30 days old, as I don't consider messages timely after
    that point...and I did note a bunch of messages get zapped for that.

    Yes, 9001-9027, odd numbers, if you had conference number of 2000 then you must have dovenet setup in your newscan, I've set dove up so I can pull to another BBS on my network. I don't know why it would automatically put it in your newscan but sounds like it did. I'll see if I can get that fixed for ou after supper. OH, and btw, none of the BBSLINK messages should be over 4-5 days old at this point in time.

    Take care.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS


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    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Friday, June 23, 2017 21:34:00
    Tim,

    ROFLMAO!

    Will you need help getting that put back on, since you laughed it
    off?? <G>

    Yes, 9001-9027, odd numbers, if you had conference number of 2000 then you mu K>have dovenet setup in your newscan, I've set dove up so I can pull to another K>BBS on my network. I don't know why it would automatically put it in your K>newscan but sounds like it did. I'll see if I can get that fixed for ou after K>supper. OH, and btw, none of the BBSLINK messages should be over 4-5 days old K>at this point in time.

    OK, I'll have to go in and turn them off for my feed...but I don't
    think it'll affect things.

    I delete any messages that are over 30 days old, because I don't
    consider them timely.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Cold winter coming!! I saw a squirrel buying Sterno!
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Saturday, June 24, 2017 17:15:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    Yes, 9001-9027, odd numbers, if you had conference number of 2000 then
    you must have dovenet setup in your newscan, I've set dove up so I can pull to another BBS on my network. I don't know why it would
    automatically put it in your newscan but sounds like it did. I'll see
    if I can get that fixed for ou after supper. OH, and btw, none of the BBSLINK messages should be over 4-5 days old at this point in time.

    So, dumb question time. How does one get started with BBSLink? :)


    ... I refuse to be intimidated by Reality
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
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  • From Captain Kiwi@VERT/BLACKSUN to Mickey on Friday, June 23, 2017 22:49:44
    Re: Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Mickey to Tony Langdon on Thu Jun 22 2017 20:33:00

    Theres an alcoholic drink called a red-headed slut. I once asked for a blonde-headed slut, but the glass came back empty.

    At least you didn't get crabs. ;)

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Black Sun BBS
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to CAPTAIN KIWI on Saturday, June 24, 2017 08:47:00
    Theres an alcoholic drink called a red-headed slut. I once asked for a blonde-headed slut, but the glass came back empty.

    At least you didn't get crabs. ;)

    The only "good way" to get crabs is to go to the beach. <G>

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ If you're consonated, maybe you need a vowel movement.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Sunday, June 25, 2017 15:22:00
    Daryl Stout wrote to CAPTAIN KIWI <=-

    At least you didn't get crabs. ;)

    The only "good way" to get crabs is to go to the beach. <G>

    Or in the seafood store. :D


    ... Why risk a hangover? Stay Drunk!!
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Daryl Stout on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 22:23:58
    Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Daryl Stout to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Jun 21 2017 09:40 am

    Rob,

    I doubt very much the problem is with your hub. What is your zip/unzip DM>configuration in ctrl/sbbsecho.ini? You previously posted your configuration DM>SCFG but that has no effect on SBBSecho.

    Well, the problem was that from the default sbbsecho.ini
    configuration, I still got errors. But, when I start the unzip command
    with -Cojqq (then the rest of it), it works.

    I'm not sure what you're saying.

    But, by switching to a new FIDONet Hub, who is getting stuff from my 2 former FIDOnet connects (one the Region 19 Hub, as my system is classed
    as a "regional independent", as there are no other FIDONet BBS's in Arkansas), it saved me 2 connects.

    Okay, good, I guess. :-)

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #23:
    FSP = FidoNet Standards Proposal
    Norco, CA WX: 71.6øF, 47.0% humidity, 4 mph SSE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 09:31:22
    Re: Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Sat Jun 24 2017 17:15:00

    So, dumb question time. How does one get started with BBSLink? :)

    http://bbslink.net/sysop/

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Thursday, June 29, 2017 08:41:00
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    http://bbslink.net/sysop/

    Thanks. :)


    ... It is easier to write an incorrect program than understand a correct one. --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DIGITAL MAN on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 08:19:00
    Rob,

    with -Cojqq (then the rest of it), it works.

    I'm not sure what you're saying.

    That's the command to unpack the ZIP files with InfoZip. I think there
    was a different command setup in the default sbbsecho.ini file.

    On another note, I've run into another problem, this time in the
    message bases.

    I tried using SMBUTIL to autopost a message in a group in a board, and
    it says the message area/directory doesn't exist. Yet, I went in, and
    posted a message manually into it...then when I tried it again, I got
    the same error. Any idea what's going on?? It's the first time I've seen
    that error.

    Daryl
    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ My last original thought died of loneliness.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Daryl Stout on Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:51:35
    Re: SBBS Issues
    By: Daryl Stout to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Jun 28 2017 08:19 am

    Rob,

    with -Cojqq (then the rest of it), it works.

    I'm not sure what you're saying.

    That's the command to unpack the ZIP files with InfoZip. I think there
    was a different command setup in the default sbbsecho.ini file.

    If you run sbbsecho_upgrade.js (when upgrading from SBBSecho v2 to v3), then the sbbsecho.ini is created based on the contents of your old ctrl/sbbsecho.cfg. Unless you're installing from scratch on *nix, you likely never had the "default sbbsecho.ini file" (from CVS) on your system.

    If your sbbsecho.ini had a bad configuration (i.e. for InfoZip), then it came from your old sbbsecho.cfg.

    On another note, I've run into another problem, this time in the
    message bases.

    I tried using SMBUTIL to autopost a message in a group in a board, and
    it says the message area/directory doesn't exist. Yet, I went in, and
    posted a message manually into it...then when I tried it again, I got
    the same error. Any idea what's going on?? It's the first time I've seen that error.

    What is the smbutil command-line you're using?

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #21:
    FF = Form Feed (ASCII 12, Ctrl-L)
    Norco, CA WX: 70.8øF, 68.0% humidity, 3 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    ---
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DIGITAL MAN on Friday, June 30, 2017 12:00:00
    What is the smbutil command-line you're using?

    I'll use the posting of the BBS ad, for the FIDONet BBS Ads echo as an example:

    SMBUTIL -c -i -tAll -f"Daryl Stout" -s"Thunderbolt BBS Ad" ic:\sysbltns\bbsad.txt c:\sbbs\data\subs\fidonet-bbs_ads.shd

    That glitch for that other area (one of the QWK Networks) was the
    first one I had seen for that...even though I used a similar syntax. So,
    I forwarded the message from one area to another via the QWK Reader, and
    it posted OK.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ Climate is what we expect, weather is what we get.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Daryl Stout on Saturday, July 01, 2017 11:33:36
    Re: SBBS Issues
    By: Daryl Stout to DIGITAL MAN on Fri Jun 30 2017 12:00 pm

    What is the smbutil command-line you're using?

    I'll use the posting of the BBS ad, for the FIDONet BBS Ads echo as an example:

    SMBUTIL -c -i -tAll -f"Daryl Stout" -s"Thunderbolt BBS Ad" ic:\sysbltns\bbsad.txt c:\sbbs\data\subs\fidonet-bbs_ads.shd

    And what is the exact error message that is displayed when you run this command-line?

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #31:
    JS = JavaScript
    Norco, CA WX: 73.1øF, 69.0% humidity, 1 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    ---
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Digital Man on Sunday, July 02, 2017 06:54:30
    Re: SBBS Issues
    By: Digital Man to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 01 2017 11:33 am

    I sent this in another message. It basically said the message area/database file didn't exist, yet I had created it, and was able to post a message manually, or via QWK Networking, but SMBUTIL wouldn't do it.

    The errors each time are:

    !Error -200 (2 'No such file or directory' opening c:\sbbs\data\dirs\subs\radwxnt-5005.shd) opening c:\sbbs\data\dirs\subs-radwxnt-5005 message base). Returning error code: 1

    It does the same for message base 5013.

    All of the other message bases online work fine. I get it via QWK Networking from Mojo, and have set up the message bases in the Message Networks part of SCFG, and in the Message Bases part of the QWK Networks. Those are the ONLY 2 areas online that won't work.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Daryl Stout on Monday, July 03, 2017 11:52:38
    Re: SBBS Issues
    By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Sun Jul 02 2017 06:54 am

    Re: SBBS Issues
    By: Digital Man to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 01 2017 11:33 am

    I sent this in another message. It basically said the message area/database file didn't exist, yet I had created it, and was able to post a message manually, or via QWK Networking, but SMBUTIL wouldn't do it.

    The errors each time are:

    !Error -200 (2 'No such file or directory' opening c:\sbbs\data\dirs\subs\radwxnt-5005.shd) opening c:\sbbs\data\dirs\subs-radwxnt-5005 message base). Returning error code: 1

    See the "data\dirs\subs" part? That doesn't match the command-line you posted earlier:

    SMBUTIL -c -i -tAll -f"Daryl Stout" -s"Thunderbolt BBS Ad" ic:\sysbltns\bbsad.txt c:\sbbs\data\subs\fidonet-bbs_ads.shd

    So... double-check those command-lines.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #71:
    The largest dial-up Synchronet BBS was The Easy Street BBS with 25 nodes/lines. Norco, CA WX: 82.0øF, 45.0% humidity, 3 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DIGITAL MAN on Monday, July 03, 2017 20:11:00
    See the "data\dirs\subs" part? That doesn't match the command-line you poste DM>earlier:

    SMBUTIL -c -i -tAll -f"Daryl Stout" -s"Thunderbolt BBS Ad" ic:\sysbltns\bbsad.txt c:\sbbs\data\subs\fidonet-bbs_ads.shd

    So... double-check those command-lines.

    That was the problem -- I've been in front of the computer too long!!

    But, it proves that someone else needs to look at what you type, to
    catch any errors.

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ In Case Of Emergency: Break glass, scream, bleed to death
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Ragnarok@VERT/DOCKSUD to Tony Langdon on Friday, July 28, 2017 20:35:31
    El 28/06/17 a las 19:41, Tony Langdon escribió:
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    http://bbslink.net/sysop/

    Thanks. :)

    I just fill the apply! I like to join!

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Dock Sud BBS TLD 24 HS - http://www.docksud.com.ar - telnet://bbs.docksud.com.ar
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Ragnarok on Saturday, July 29, 2017 10:45:00
    Ragnarok wrote to Tony Langdon <=-


    I just fill the apply! I like to join!

    Cool! :)


    ... Starting a new era in tagline lunacy!
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
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  • From Ragnarok@VERT/DOCKSUD to Tony Langdon on Monday, July 31, 2017 11:57:59
    El 28/07/17 a las 21:45, Tony Langdon escribió:
    Ragnarok wrote to Tony Langdon <=-


    I just fill the apply! I like to join!

    Cool! :)

    i do not have any answer yet. =|

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Dock Sud BBS TLD 24 HS - http://www.docksud.com.ar - telnet://bbs.docksud.com.ar
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Ragnarok on Monday, July 31, 2017 13:44:00
    Re: Re: BBSLinkNet
    By: Ragnarok to Tony Langdon on Mon Jul 31 2017 11:57:59

    I just fill the apply! I like to join!

    Cool! :)

    i do not have any answer yet. =|


    Sometimes it may take him some tim to get back to you. once he does though you will be up and going in 5 minutes or so.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Ragnarok on Tuesday, August 01, 2017 07:45:00
    Ragnarok wrote to Tony Langdon <=-


    i do not have any answer yet. =|

    Give it a week or so, and if still no answer, there is an email contact.


    ... My brain has never had a firm grip on where my feet are.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
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