Hi folks,

I've been trying to access wiki.synchro.net for a couple of days. It appears the server is offline.

Thanks.

Joe

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Re: Wiki is down
By: Joe to All on Sat Jun 10 2017 10:14 am

Hi folks,

I've been trying to access wiki.synchro.net for a couple of days. It appears the server is offline.

Appears to be online to me. <shrug>

digital man

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Re: Wiki is down
By: Joe to All on Sat Jun 10 2017 10:14 am

Hi folks,

I've been trying to access wiki.synchro.net for a couple of days.
It appears
the server is offline.

Appears to be online to me. <shrug>

I was able to access it this morning. It just takes an extremely long time to load on my end. I'm going to download a local copy for the future.

Thanks.


Regards,

Joe
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Re: Wiki is down
By: Joe Bruchis to Digital Man on Sun Jun 11 2017 11:29 am

Digital Man wrote in a message to Joe:

Re: Wiki is down
By: Joe to All on Sat Jun 10 2017 10:14 am

Hi folks,

I've been trying to access wiki.synchro.net for a couple of days.
It appears
the server is offline.

Appears to be online to me. <shrug>

I was able to access it this morning. It just takes an extremely long time to load on my end. I'm going to download a local copy for the future.

Thanks.

you're right about that. takes several minutes to load.
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On 2017 Jun 11 15:20:04, you wrote to Joe Bruchis:

I've been trying to access wiki.synchro.net for a couple of days. It
appears the server is offline.

Appears to be online to me. <shrug>

I was able to access it this morning. It just takes an extremely long
time to load on my end. I'm going to download a local copy for the
future.

you're right about that. takes several minutes to load.

looks like either an overloaded server or an overloaded pipeline somewhere... i'm on the east coast and it took a bit to arrive here, too... here's the timings (and errors) from firefox from trying to access it just now... i don't recall the last time i was there so there may not have been anything in my local cache at all...

GET http://wiki.synchro.net/ [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 800ms]
GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/exe/css.php [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 26170ms]
GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/exe/js.php [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 106661ms]
GET http://api.qrserver.com/v1/create-qr-code/ [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 106775ms]
GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/tpl/monobook/static/img/button-rss.png [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 107508ms]
GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/tpl/monobook/static/img/button-monobook.png [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 106830ms]
GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/tpl/monobook/static/img/button-dw.png [HTTP/1.1
200 OK 106921ms]
GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/tpl/monobook/user/button-xhtml.png [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 106917ms]
GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/exe/indexer.php [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 106976ms] Expected 'none', URL, or filter function but found 'Alpha('. Error in parsing value for 'filter'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:8588
Expected 'none', URL, or filter function but found 'alpha('. Error in parsing value for 'filter'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:18356
Expected 'none', URL, or filter function but found 'Alpha('. Error in parsing value for 'filter'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:25775
Expected 'none', URL, or filter function but found 'Alpha('. Error in parsing value for 'filter'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:25926
Expected 'none', URL, or filter function but found 'Alpha('. Error in parsing value for 'filter'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:26002
Expected 'none', URL, or filter function but found 'Alpha('. Error in parsing value for 'filter'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:36949
Expected 'none', URL, or filter function but found 'Alpha('. Error in parsing value for 'filter'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:37151
Expected color but found '__background_other__'. Error in parsing value for 'background-color'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:40523
Expected color but found '__background_other__'. Error in parsing value for 'background-color'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:40891
Unknown property '-moz-box-shadow'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:70304 Unknown property 'zoom'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:82357
Error in parsing value for 'background'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:84426 Error in parsing value for 'background'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:84498 Expected color but found 'top'. Error in parsing value for 'background'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:84587
Unknown property 'zoom'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:91790
Unknown property '-moz-opacity'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:95534
Unknown property 'speak'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:114728
Error in parsing value for 'padding'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:142408 Error in parsing value for 'font-weight'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:154735
Error in parsing value for 'font-weight'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:154778
Expected color but found '__background_other__'. Error in parsing value for 'background-color'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:155573
Expected color but found '__background_other__'. Error in parsing value for 'background-color'. Declaration dropped. css.php:1:155756
ReferenceError: sack is not defined. js.php:24:79617
GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/tpl/monobook/static/3rd/monobook/headbg.jpg [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 825ms]
GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/images/interwiki/wp.gif [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 606ms] GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/tpl/monobook/static/3rd/monobook/external.png [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 600ms]
GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/tpl/monobook/static/3rd/monobook/bullet.gif [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 553ms]
GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/tpl/monobook/user/logo.png [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 1779ms]
GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/tpl/monobook/static/3rd/monobook/user.gif [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 810ms]
GET http://wiki.synchro.net/lib/tpl/monobook/static/3rd/dokuwiki/closed.png [HTTP/1.1 200 OK 819ms]


so yeah, 106 seconds is a long time to wait... really weird, though, is that some things are pretty quick... on the order of just a few seconds... that might be due to caching but i checked some pages that i've never been to before
as well as some that i know have been updated recently... the ANSI page i never
saw before and there was a delay of tens of seconds on it but other larger pages like the unix install page and the requesits page popped right up in less
than 5 seconds...

FWIW: i know the above is going to be hard to read on an 80 column screen... i can redo it as a picture or as a text file if DM or anyone else is interested in a cleaner wide view of it... it is just a text capture from firefox's Developer->Performance tool...

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Re: Wiki is down
By: mark lewis to Mro on Sun Jun 11 2017 07:32 pm

so yeah, 106 seconds is a long time to wait... really weird, though, is that some things are pretty quick... on the order of just a few seconds... that might be due to caching but i checked some pages that i've never been to before

someone should tell deuce to run it on a hosted server.
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Re: Wiki is down
By: Mro to mark lewis on Mon Jun 12 2017 07:11 pm

Re: Wiki is down
By: mark lewis to Mro on Sun Jun 11 2017 07:32 pm

so yeah, 106 seconds is a long time to wait... really weird, though, is that some things are pretty quick... on the order of just a few seconds... that might be due to caching but i checked some pages that i've never been to before

someone should tell deuce to run it on a hosted server.

1. I host wiki.synchro.net.

2. I don't like hosting my stuff off-site, especially when there is dynamic content and authentication involved, like the wiki has. I have 5 Mb/s upstream which should be plenty.

3. I just tested it from Northern California, and it appears to be responding fast.

digital man

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Re: Wiki is down
By: Digital Man to Mro on Mon Jun 12 2017 17:35:50

1. I host wiki.synchro.net.

2. I don't like hosting my stuff off-site, especially when there is dynamic content and authentication involved, like the wiki has. I have 5 Mb/s upstream which should be plenty.

3. I just tested it from Northern California, and it appears to be responding fast.

I've had slow response times from Georgia, but not bad enough to make me go away, I usually swap over to whatever project I'm working on until the wiki pages load. what is strange though is that YOU host wiki and it is so much slower than anything else you host.. it might be somethign other than bandwidth, and/or speed.

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On 6/12/2017 7:35 PM, Digital Man -> Mro wrote:

2. I don't like hosting my stuff off-site, especially when there is

dynamic

content and authentication involved, like the wiki has. I have 5 Mb/s upstream which should be plenty.

Definitely should be, however..

3. I just tested it from Northern California, and it appears to be responding fast.

It just took 15-20 seconds for wiki.synchro.net to load up here.

Do you by chance have IPv6 but you're not currently using it? If so, is there an AAAA record set for your domain?

It may be trying to connect via IPv6 first for people that have it, and taking awhile to revert to IPv4.

If it's not that, I have no idea what it could be.. but it's been taking longer
than normal to load for quite some time now, and it has been mentioned before by multiple people as well. *shrug*

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Re: Wiki is down
By: KK4QBN to Digital Man on Mon Jun 12 2017 10:09 pm

Re: Wiki is down
By: Digital Man to Mro on Mon Jun 12 2017 17:35:50

1. I host wiki.synchro.net.

2. I don't like hosting my stuff off-site, especially when there is dynamic content and authentication involved, like the wiki has. I have 5 Mb/s upstream which should be plenty.

3. I just tested it from Northern California, and it appears to be responding fast.

I've had slow response times from Georgia, but not bad enough to make me go away, I usually swap over to whatever project I'm working on until the wiki pages load. what is strange though is that YOU host wiki and it is so much slower than anything else you host.. it might be somethign other than bandwidth, and/or speed.

And stranger still.. I'm traveling and have accessed it from 2 other vastly different Internet connection and other than an inital pause, the site loads fast. <shrug>

I am performing a massive sync to Onedrive that won't be done for days. Since these complaints, I've thottled those uploads to 1Mb/s. I'm guessing when the Onedrive sync is done (which will be longer now), the responsiveness will improve.

digital man

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Re: Wiki is down
By: Nicholas Boel to Digital Man on Mon Jun 12 2017 08:32 pm

Do you by chance have IPv6 but you're not currently using it? If so, is there an AAAA record set for your domain?

No to both.

digital man

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Re: Wiki is down
By: Digital Man to Mro on Mon Jun 12 2017 05:35 pm

3. I just tested it from Northern California, and it appears to be responding fast.

Just checked, In Virginia, it loaded fully in under 10 seconds, and my cable is slow.

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On 2017 Jun 12 19:11:30, you wrote to me:

so yeah, 106 seconds is a long time to wait... really weird, though, is
that some things are pretty quick... on the order of just a few
seconds... that might be due to caching but i checked some pages that
i've never been to before

someone should tell deuce to run it on a hosted server.

hahaha! i wouldn't even do that... running it on a hosted server or telling deuce to do so :lololol:

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On 2017 Jun 12 20:32:34, you wrote to Digital Man:

Do you by chance have IPv6 but you're not currently using it? If so,
is there an AAAA record set for your domain?

It may be trying to connect via IPv6 first for people that have it,
and taking awhile to revert to IPv4.

good thought except that we don't have IPv6 here... we just got an upgrade on our DSL and it does bring IPv6 along but IPv6 cannot travel through my firewall
and it is completely disabled on the internal LANs... i just loaded it in my browser and it is definitely faster today than it was the other day... i also ran a traceroute which was pretty fast as well...


traceroute to cvs.synchro.net (71.95.196.36), 64 hops max
1 192.168.xxx.1 0.264ms 0.216ms 0.158ms
2 40.136.240.2 16.084ms 15.964ms 11.930ms
3 40.136.114.166 11.986ms 12.006ms 11.953ms
4 40.130.35.152 16.018ms 19.768ms 15.909ms
5 40.128.248.160 15.883ms 19.893ms 15.999ms
6 40.132.59.32 23.791ms 23.785ms 23.945ms
7 198.32.132.162 23.743ms 23.987ms 23.844ms
8 * * *
9 * * *
10 * * *
11 * * *
12 * * *
13 * * *
14 * * *
15 * * *
16 * * *
17 * * *
18 * * *
19 71.95.196.36 95.635ms 91.901ms 88.038ms


it is possible that there was a router loop in the path that has been fixed since we last looked at it... or maybe the kids were home from school and flooding the 'net with all their traffic... it is also possible that the machine, itself, was just loaded up or maybe even dealing with a DDOS at that time... i don't know but it is certainly much faster now than it was the other day :)

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On 2017 Jun 12 20:54:24, you wrote to KK4QBN:

I am performing a massive sync to Onedrive that won't be done for
days. Since these complaints, I've thottled those uploads to 1Mb/s.
I'm guessing when the Onedrive sync is done (which will be longer
now), the responsiveness will improve.

ahhh, yeah, that may very well have been the choke point... overloaded outbound
pipe... it is much faster today then the other day...

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On 6/13/2017 9:52 AM, mark lewis -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

it is possible that there was a router loop in the path that has been

fixed

since we last looked at it... or maybe the kids were home from school and flooding the 'net with all their traffic... it is also possible that the machine, itself, was just loaded up or maybe even dealing with a DDOS at that time... i don't know but it is certainly much faster now than it was the other day :)

Hmph, I don't know then. Just now it took over 15 seconds to load again, no real difference from any other time in the past year or two (or more) I've visited the wiki.

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On 6/13/2017 10:13 AM, mark lewis -> Digital Man wrote:

I am performing a massive sync to Onedrive that won't be done for
days. Since these complaints, I've thottled those uploads to 1Mb/s.
I'm guessing when the Onedrive sync is done (which will be longer
now), the responsiveness will improve.

ahhh, yeah, that may very well have been the choke point... overloaded outbound pipe... it is much faster today then the other day...

Not for me. Maybe newer versions of Firefox have issues now connecting to unsecure and/or non-private sites that take your login credentials?

Website Identity:

Website: wiki.synchro.net
Owner: This website does not supply ownership information
Verified by: Not specified

Technical Details:

Connection Not Encrypted
The website wiki.synchro.net does not support encryption for the page you are
viewing. Information sent over the Internet without encryption can be seen by other people while it is in transit.

I don't know if that has to do with anything, but I can't recall any other site
I have a prolonged wait before the page loads.

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Re: Wiki is down
By: Digital Man to Mro on Mon Jun 12 2017 05:35 pm

someone should tell deuce to run it on a hosted server.

1. I host wiki.synchro.net.

i know i was joking.

i dont know why you are numbering your replies.

2. I don't like hosting my stuff off-site, especially when there is dynamic content and authentication involved, like the wiki has. I have 5 Mb/s upstream which should be plenty.

there are many advantages when hosting content on commercial servers.
all i know is the site was very slow to load when i tried it and it has been very slow in the past to load.

3. I just tested it from Northern California, and it appears to be responding fast.

the problem is intermittent.
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Re: Wiki is down
By: Digital Man to KK4QBN on Mon Jun 12 2017 08:54 pm

I am performing a massive sync to Onedrive that won't be done for days. Since these complaints, I've thottled those uploads to 1Mb/s. I'm guessing when the Onedrive sync is done (which will be longer now), the responsiveness will improve.

just tried it again and it took 1 minute to load the welcome page.
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Re: Wiki is down
By: mark lewis to Mro on Tue Jun 13 2017 10:50 am

someone should tell deuce to run it on a hosted server.

hahaha! i wouldn't even do that... running it on a hosted server or telling deuce to do so :lololol:

why not
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Re: Wiki is down
By: Mro to Digital Man on Wed Jun 14 2017 19:14:47

someone should tell deuce to run it on a hosted server.

1. I host wiki.synchro.net.

i know i was joking.

i dont know why you are numbering your replies.

Maybe to help you get the point.. did'nt sound like a joke to me.. or at least I did'nt get a chuckle out of it..

(don't think anyone else did either imho)

:-)

there are many advantages when hosting content on commercial servers.
all i know is the site was very slow to load when i tried it and it has been very slow in the past to load.

The wiki has always seemed to be slower than any other services he hosts on my part at least.. here lately.. I presume maybe it was because the backup.. I have'nt utilized it in a while now.

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Re: Wiki is down
By: Mro to Digital Man on Wed Jun 14 2017 19:16:01

I am performing a massive sync to Onedrive that won't be done for
days. Since these complaints, I've thottled those uploads to 1Mb/s.
I'm guessing when the Onedrive sync is done (which will be longer
now), the responsiveness will improve.

just tried it again and it took 1 minute to load the welcome page.

Just clicked the link for espanol (no chance of cache), took 6 seconds to load.

I can deal with that..

Remember the "good ol days" when it took 45 minutes to download a nudie picture with square pixelated boobies over modem? haha.

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Re: Wiki is down
By: KK4QBN to Mro on Wed Jun 14 2017 08:52 pm

someone should tell deuce to run it on a hosted server.

1. I host wiki.synchro.net.

i know i was joking.

i dont know why you are numbering your replies.

Maybe to help you get the point.. did'nt sound like a joke to me.. or at

it was an inside joke.

The wiki has always seemed to be slower than any other services he hosts on my part at least.. here lately.. I presume maybe it was because the backup.. I have'nt utilized it in a while now.

i just tried it again and it loaded up quick. it could be the internet toobs are clogged or not connecting as well or it could be the wiki is being hit by an attacker or someone who is trying to mirror it.
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