• Hosting QWK Network

    From Patch@VERT/R2LOTW to All on Monday, May 16, 2016 10:24:09
    I'm tyring to get our area BBS's into our own network. I've configured the files needed in order for new users to be prompted if they are 1.) Sysop, and 2.) Account Used for QWK.


    I've created new message bases specifically for Utah systems and users. I've asked a few of the systems to connect and create QWK accounts, posted test messages but so far nothing has been replied to.

    DM asked me to remove the network name from bbs -> config -> networks area, saying that if I am the host then nothing should be in there.

    I've done that, but still nothing comes through.

    What am I missing and doing wrong? How can I create and get systems actively into the local network so that we can coordinate events, etc.?

    Any help is greatly appreciated!


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Patch on Monday, May 16, 2016 15:12:27
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Patch to All on Mon May 16 2016 10:24 am

    I'm tyring to get our area BBS's into our own network. I've configured the files needed in order for new users to be prompted if they are 1.) Sysop, and 2.) Account Used for QWK.


    I've created new message bases specifically for Utah systems and users.
    I've asked a few of the systems to connect and create QWK accounts, posted test messages but so far nothing has been replied to.

    DM asked me to remove the network name from bbs -> config -> networks area, saying that if I am the host then nothing should be in there.

    I've done that, but still nothing comes through.

    If "nothing has been replied to", then what would you expect?

    What am I missing and doing wrong?

    Maybe nothing? If no systems have linked with yours via QWKnetworking and subsequently posted messages on your networked conferences, then I would not expect to see anything "come through".

    How can I create and get systems
    actively into the local network so that we can coordinate events, etc.?

    Are there other systems that you're corrdinating with?

    digital man

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  • From Patch@VERT/R2LOTW to Digital Man on Monday, May 16, 2016 20:08:26
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Digital Man to Patch on Mon May 16 2016 03:12 pm

    If "nothing has been replied to", then what would you expect?

    Honestly I think that you're spot on with that.

    After I posted the question I went through the new user process and added a QWK account.

    One of the things that I noticed is that in the QWK menu you can configure the message areas to get information from, right?

    So wouldn't that be all that's needed?


    Maybe nothing? If no systems have linked with yours via QWKnetworking and subsequently posted messages on your networked conferences, then I would not expect to see anything "come through".

    I am trying to test this out with two systems right now ... I'm hoping to get some feedback from them about what they are experiencing, but so far nada.

    To be sure of myself, they need to create a QWK account on my board using their QWK network name and password ... just like as if we were connecting to Vert?!


    Are there other systems that you're corrdinating with?

    Yes ... at least two, and I'm told that there are other Utah-based systems that would be interested since from what I understand there was a local network that they once belonged to using the same name that I chose.

    Go figure ... so much for trying to be unique! =)



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Patch on Monday, May 16, 2016 22:22:34
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Patch to Digital Man on Mon May 16 2016 08:08 pm

    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Digital Man to Patch on Mon May 16 2016 03:12 pm

    If "nothing has been replied to", then what would you expect?

    Honestly I think that you're spot on with that.

    After I posted the question I went through the new user process and added a QWK account.

    One of the things that I noticed is that in the QWK menu you can configure the message areas to get information from, right?

    There is a QWK menu option to configure the "message scan" which determines which message areas are included in the QWK packet that is created by the BBS and sent to (downloaded by) the QWKnet user account.

    So wouldn't that be all that's needed?

    I'm not really sure what you mean. Needed for what?

    Maybe nothing? If no systems have linked with yours via QWKnetworking and subsequently posted messages on your networked conferences, then I would not expect to see anything "come through".

    I am trying to test this out with two systems right now ... I'm hoping to get some feedback from them about what they are experiencing, but so far nada.

    To be sure of myself, they need to create a QWK account on my board using their QWK network name and password ... just like as if we were connecting to Vert?!

    Yes. And they would have to configure something on their BBS software to "call" your BBS and transfer message packets.

    digital man

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  • From Patch@VERT/R2LOTW to Digital Man on Tuesday, May 17, 2016 07:59:52
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Digital Man to Patch on Mon May 16 2016 10:22 pm

    Yes. And they would have to configure something on their BBS software to "call" your BBS and transfer message packets.

    Gah, I thought so. Thanks for the clarification on that.

    They would just need to set up the Network -> QWK portion in BBS Configure to 'call out' and obtain the information.

    Remembering how QWK was, it basically archived up messages to the bases that you subscribed to for offline reading.

    In this case, which I think is quite ingenious to be honest, you've made it essentially a network packet.

    Again, thanks for the clarification. I'll see if the other SysOps have that setup and see what result we get from that.


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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Patch on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 06:53:26
    17 May 16 07:59, you wrote to Digital Man:

    Remembering how QWK was, it basically archived up messages to the
    bases that you subscribed to for offline reading.

    In this case, which I think is quite ingenious to be honest, you've
    made it essentially a network packet.

    QWK networking has been around forever... PCRelay/RIME was QWK networking as were several other networks... it all stems from the PCBoard message base format...

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  • From Immortal@VERT/IDOMAIN to Patch on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 14:01:12
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Patch to Digital Man on Mon May 16 2016 20:08:26

    I am trying to test this out with two systems right now ... I'm hoping to get some feedback from them about what they are experiencing, but so far nada.

    I've got my QWK account created on your system and think I have everything configured to "poll" you and get messages. I've got the message areas set up but cannot link them until I know your conference numbers. I think you need to go into "advanced options" under each message area and change it from dynamic to any number, and then tell me what the correct number is for each message base. Then I believe it will work.

    Steve

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  • From Pbmountaincat@VERT/FLAMINGS to mark lewis on Wednesday, May 25, 2016 14:41:35
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: mark lewis to Patch on Wed May 18 2016 06:53 am

    QWK networking has been around forever... PCRelay/RIME was QWK networking as

    Hello,

    The old days of RIME (RelayNet), I was a member back in the early 90's pulling mail for a BBS at a college that had a BBS I managed. Those were the days... calling long distance many times a day on someone elses dime. :)

    Take Care,
    Philip

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  • From Mojo@VERT/MOJO to Pbmountaincat on Wednesday, May 25, 2016 18:19:27
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Pbmountaincat to mark lewis on Wed May 25 2016 02:41 pm

    Hi Philip,


    The old days of RIME (RelayNet), I was a member back in the early 90's pulling mail for a BBS at a college that had a BBS I managed. Those were the days... calling long distance many times a day on someone elses dime. :)

    Is your bbs up and running? I took the information from the bottom of your post and tried to connect to the address listed there and it does nothing but say connecting?

    Thanks
    Mojo

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  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to Pbmountaincat on Wednesday, May 25, 2016 13:32:07
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Pbmountaincat to mark lewis on Wed May 25 2016 02:41 pm

    The old days of RIME (RelayNet), I was a member back in the early 90's pulli mail for a BBS at a college that had a BBS I managed. Those were the days.. calling long distance many times a day on someone elses dime. :)

    oohhhh thats why my taxes were so high back in to 90's

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Pbmountaincat on Wednesday, May 25, 2016 21:31:52
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Pbmountaincat to mark lewis on Wed May 25 2016 02:41 pm

    The old days of RIME (RelayNet), I was a member back in the early 90's pulling mail for a BBS at a college that had a BBS I managed. Those were the days... calling long distance many times a day on someone elses dime.
    :)


    i remember rime. i met a sysop who was a member of it and moderated echos.
    they complained about my quoting costing them bandwidth. and other petty things. then i introduced the sysop to doorgames [he never had them which was weird!] and he banned me from the bbs when i killed people in lord!

    they could still login and play. it just said i killed them the previous day.

    oh the joys of bbsing.
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  • From Pbmountaincat@VERT/FLAMINGS to Mojo on Thursday, May 26, 2016 23:24:32
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Mojo to Pbmountaincat on Wed May 25 2016 06:19 pm

    Is your bbs up and running? I took the information from the bottom of your post and tried to connect to the address listed there and it does nothing but say connecting?

    Hello,

    Yeah, still working on that. I couldn't get it to work a year ago either.

    Time Warner Internet and there provided modem/router said they don't allow it, but it had worked for years under a different modem and my router. Need to try my router again in conjunction with theres or something.

    Thanks,
    Philip

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  • From Mojo@VERT/MOJO to Pbmountaincat on Friday, May 27, 2016 13:05:31
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Pbmountaincat to Mojo on Thu May 26 2016 11:24 pm

    Yeah, still working on that. I couldn't get it to work a year ago either.

    Time Warner Internet and there provided modem/router said they don't allow it, but it had worked for years under a different modem and my router. Need to try my router again in conjunction with theres or something.


    Cool, I hope to see it up and running when you can get that stuff all worked out.

    Mojo

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Pbmountaincat on Friday, May 27, 2016 16:16:42
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Pbmountaincat to Mojo on Thu May 26 2016 11:24 pm


    Is your bbs up and running? I took the information from the bottom of your post and tried to connect to the address listed there and it does nothing but say connecting?

    Hello,

    Yeah, still working on that. I couldn't get it to work a year ago either.

    Time Warner Internet and there provided modem/router said they don't allow it, but it had worked for years under a different modem and my router.
    Need to try my router again in conjunction with theres or something.



    time warner does allow it, i had a good talk with them about that. they were probably just confused.
    regarding your modem/router you need to google the admin pw and then set it up correctly. OR... buy your own and then have faster speeds and not get that monthly rental charge.
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  • From Joe Delahaye@VERT to Pbmountaincat on Friday, May 27, 2016 20:55:57
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Pbmountaincat to Mojo on Thu May 26 2016 23:24:32

    Time Warner Internet and there provided modem/router said they don't allow it, but it had worked for years under a different modem and my router. Need to try my router again in conjunction with theres or something.


    Set the TW modem/router in Bypass mode if you are able to do so, and then use your own router.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Joe Delahaye on Friday, May 27, 2016 22:40:46
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Joe Delahaye to Pbmountaincat on Fri May 27 2016 08:55 pm

    allow it, but it had worked for years under a different modem and my router. Need to try my router again in conjunction with theres or something.


    Set the TW modem/router in Bypass mode if you are able to do so, and then use your own router.

    tw is actually pretty good with you running servers at home. they dont mind as long as you're not running a business on non-business class.

    all this guy needs is the access to his device and he can do a lot of shit. infact, i think i'm going to go back into mine and turn on the wifi just for better reach in some areas outside.
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  • From Joe Delahaye@VERT to Mro on Saturday, May 28, 2016 21:43:40
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Mro to Joe Delahaye on Fri May 27 2016 22:40:46

    Set the TW modem/router in Bypass mode if you are able to do so, and
    then use your own router.

    tw is actually pretty good with you running servers at home. they dont mind as long as you're not running a business on non-business class.

    all this guy needs is the access to his device and he can do a lot of shit. infact, i think i'm going to go back into mine and turn on the wifi just for better reach in some areas outside.

    Will they give him the PW to access that menu?
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Joe Delahaye on Saturday, May 28, 2016 22:18:47
    Re: Hosting QWK Network
    By: Joe Delahaye to Mro on Sat May 28 2016 09:43 pm


    all this guy needs is the access to his device and he can do a lot of shit. infact, i think i'm going to go back into mine and turn on the wifi just for better reach in some areas outside.

    Will they give him the PW to access that menu?


    you just google it. it's on defaults.
    i cant remember the model i have but i have the voip/router/modem kind and had to go in the settings and pass it all through.

    he would be better off just buying his own shit, though. no monthly fee and not a refurb.
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