• How to enable ;EDIT?

    From Jollis@VERT/CHIVANET to All on Monday, April 04, 2016 02:07:42
    Hello all,

    how does one enable the ;EDIT command in the menu?

    Thanks,
    Jollis

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Jollis on Sunday, April 03, 2016 23:39:18
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Jollis to All on Mon Apr 04 2016 02:07 am

    Hello all,

    how does one enable the ;EDIT command in the menu?

    You can edit exec/str_cmds.js. But why? It's only available to sysops.

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Jollis on Monday, April 04, 2016 09:09:40
    04 Apr 16 02:07, you wrote to All:

    how does one enable the ;EDIT command in the menu?

    are you using the sysop account?
    if you have a system password set, are you putting that in when asked?
    the system will then ask for the filename to edit...

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  • From Jollis@VERT/CHIVANET to Digital Man on Monday, April 04, 2016 14:18:57
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to Jollis on Sun Apr 03 2016 11:39 pm


    how does one enable the ;EDIT command in the menu?

    You can edit exec/str_cmds.js. But why? It's only available to sysops.


    Hmm, perhaps I have something misconfigured. I am the sysop, and it doesn't seem to be available.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Jollis on Monday, April 04, 2016 15:08:57
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Jollis to Digital Man on Mon Apr 04 2016 02:18 pm

    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to Jollis on Sun Apr 03 2016 11:39 pm


    how does one enable the ;EDIT command in the menu?

    You can edit exec/str_cmds.js. But why? It's only available to sysops.


    Hmm, perhaps I have something misconfigured. I am the sysop, and it doesn't seem to be available.

    What command shell are you using? Can you elaborate on how you're trying to use the ;EDIT command?

    digital man

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  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to Digital Man on Thursday, April 07, 2016 11:47:07
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to Jollis on Sun Apr 03 2016 11:39 pm

    how does one enable the ;EDIT command in the menu?

    You can edit exec/str_cmds.js. But why? It's only available to sysops.

    digital man

    Mr. Digital Man...I know this is off topic but I am very curious. What BBS software did you "RUN" before you wrote Synchronet?? Which ones did you take from or leave to come up with Synchronet BBS? It's obvious a lot of thought when into Synchronet BBS but is there any BBS software that inspired you to write Synchronet? Which ones?

    HusTler

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Hustler on Sunday, April 10, 2016 18:13:20
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Hustler to Digital Man on Thu Apr 07 2016 11:47 am

    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to Jollis on Sun Apr 03 2016 11:39 pm

    how does one enable the ;EDIT command in the menu?

    You can edit exec/str_cmds.js. But why? It's only available to sysops.

    digital man

    Mr. Digital Man...I know this is off topic but I am very curious. What BBS software did you "RUN" before you wrote Synchronet??

    WWIV v4.2

    Which ones did you take
    from or leave to come up with Synchronet BBS?

    That's pretty much the end of the list. I also used a Telix host mode script for a short while, but wasn't much of a "BBS" really.

    It's obvious a lot of thought
    when into Synchronet BBS but is there any BBS software that inspired you to write Synchronet? Which ones?

    The initial inspiration was WWIV, but I had used a lot of other BBSes from the user's perspective and certainly was inspired for certain features or feels by them too. That continues to this day. :-)

    digital man

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  • From Dran Draggore@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, April 14, 2016 04:40:37
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to Hustler on Sun Apr 10 2016 06:13 pm

    The initial inspiration was WWIV, but I had used a lot of other BBSes from the user's perspective and certainly was inspired for certain features or feels by them too. That continues to this day. :-)

    Don't you mean this is the inspiration:

    * SYNCHRONET PRICING
    -------------------
    2 node licence..............$ 99.00
    4 node licence..............$199.00
    8 node licence..............$299.00
    16 node licence.............$399.00
    250 node licence............$499.00

    Professional Packages:
    4 node package..............$499.00
    8 node package..............$699.00

    500 bucks for 4 nodes. That's outrageous.

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  • From Dran Draggore@VERT to Hustler on Thursday, April 14, 2016 04:44:10
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Hustler to Digital Man on Thu Apr 07 2016 11:47 am

    Mr. Digital Man...I know this is off topic but I am very curious. What BBS

    "Mr" Digital Man ? -- by the sounds of it, don't you mean "Your Royal Highness, King of Kings, holy defender of the faith - saviour from heaven" ?

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  • From Joe Delahaye@VERT to Dran Draggore on Thursday, April 14, 2016 09:09:32
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Dran Draggore to Digital Man on Thu Apr 14 2016 04:40:37

    The initial inspiration was WWIV, but I had used a lot of other BBSes
    from the user's perspective and certainly was inspired for certain
    features or feels by them too. That continues to this day. :-)

    Don't you mean this is the inspiration:

    * SYNCHRONET PRICING
    -------------------
    2 node licence..............$ 99.00
    4 node licence..............$199.00
    8 node licence..............$299.00
    16 node licence.............$399.00
    250 node licence............$499.00

    Professional Packages:
    4 node package..............$499.00
    8 node package..............$699.00

    500 bucks for 4 nodes. That's outrageous.

    You forgot to mention that was for the Professional Package. For you, that price gave you 250 Nodes
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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Dran Draggore on Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:45:44
    14 Apr 16 04:40, you wrote to Digital Man:

    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to Hustler on Sun Apr 10 2016 06:13 pm

    The initial inspiration was WWIV, but I had used a lot of other BBSes
    from the user's perspective and certainly was inspired for certain
    features or feels by them too. That continues to this day. :-)

    Don't you mean this is the inspiration:

    * SYNCHRONET PRICING
    -------------------
    2 node licence..............$ 99.00
    4 node licence..............$199.00
    8 node licence..............$299.00
    16 node licence.............$399.00
    250 node licence............$499.00

    Professional Packages:
    4 node package..............$499.00
    8 node package..............$699.00

    500 bucks for 4 nodes. That's outrageous.

    not for a commercial entity... apparently you don't know or understand the difference between the normal and the professional packages... you also are apparently unaware of the how software was priced back in the day... IIRC, remoteaccess was one of the first, if not the first, to offer 255 nodes for its
    miniscule $50US price tag... other BBS packages followed suit soon after... then over time RA and others developed their professional packages which had a few more features and capabilities... they had to reduce some of those in the free/shareware releases...

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to mark lewis on Thursday, April 14, 2016 12:26:25
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: mark lewis to Dran Draggore on Thu Apr 14 2016 10:45 am

    14 Apr 16 04:40, you wrote to Digital Man:

    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to Hustler on Sun Apr 10 2016 06:13 pm

    The initial inspiration was WWIV, but I had used a lot of other BBSes
    from the user's perspective and certainly was inspired for certain
    features or feels by them too. That continues to this day. :-)

    Don't you mean this is the inspiration:

    * SYNCHRONET PRICING
    -------------------
    2 node licence..............$ 99.00
    4 node licence..............$199.00
    8 node licence..............$299.00
    16 node licence.............$399.00
    250 node licence............$499.00

    Professional Packages:
    4 node package..............$499.00
    8 node package..............$699.00

    500 bucks for 4 nodes. That's outrageous.

    not for a commercial entity... apparently you don't know or understand the difference between the normal and the professional packages... you also are apparently unaware of the how software was priced back in the day... IIRC, remoteaccess was one of the first, if not the first, to offer 255 nodes for its
    miniscule $50US price tag... other BBS packages followed suit soon after... then over time RA and others developed their professional packages which had a few more features and capabilities... they had to reduce some of those in the free/shareware releases...

    I don't recall Synchronet ever having a "Professional Package". <shrug>

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, April 14, 2016 19:55:50
    14 Apr 16 12:26, you wrote to me:

    * SYNCHRONET PRICING
    -------------------
    2 node licence..............$ 99.00
    4 node licence..............$199.00
    8 node licence..............$299.00
    16 node licence.............$399.00
    250 node licence............$499.00

    Professional Packages:
    4 node package..............$499.00
    8 node package..............$699.00

    500 bucks for 4 nodes. That's outrageous.

    not for a commercial entity... apparently you don't know or understand
    the difference between the normal and the professional packages... you
    also are apparently unaware of the how software was priced back in the
    day... IIRC, remoteaccess was one of the first, if not the first, to
    offer 255 nodes for its miniscule $50US price tag... other BBS packages
    followed suit soon after... then over time RA and others developed their
    professional packages which had a few more features and capabilities...
    they had to reduce some of those in the free/shareware releases...

    I don't recall Synchronet ever having a "Professional Package". <shrug>

    i didn't write it but there's sure an entry up there for such... RA added a few
    additional binaries, mainly... things that you had to hunt down a 3rd party tool for and might have to pay $$$ for... if it was included in RA, you didn't pay anything for it other than the RA reg stuffs... RAEdit was one such... it was a special compiled version of GEdit... there were other things available, too... but not all BBSes did this for their professional or commercial "packages"...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to mark lewis on Thursday, April 14, 2016 18:12:19
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Thu Apr 14 2016 07:55 pm

    14 Apr 16 12:26, you wrote to me:

    * SYNCHRONET PRICING
    -------------------
    2 node licence..............$ 99.00
    4 node licence..............$199.00
    8 node licence..............$299.00
    16 node licence.............$399.00
    250 node licence............$499.00

    Professional Packages:
    4 node package..............$499.00
    8 node package..............$699.00

    500 bucks for 4 nodes. That's outrageous.

    not for a commercial entity... apparently you don't know or understand
    the difference between the normal and the professional packages... you
    also are apparently unaware of the how software was priced back in the
    day... IIRC, remoteaccess was one of the first, if not the first, to
    offer 255 nodes for its miniscule $50US price tag... other BBS packages
    followed suit soon after... then over time RA and others developed their
    professional packages which had a few more features and capabilities...
    they had to reduce some of those in the free/shareware releases...

    I don't recall Synchronet ever having a "Professional Package". <shrug>

    i didn't write it but there's sure an entry up there for such...

    Some posted it, sure. Doesn't mean it's true.

    digital man

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  • From Nicholas Boel@VERT to mark lewis on Thursday, April 14, 2016 19:56:17
    Hello mark,

    On 14 Apr 16 19:55, mark lewis wrote to Digital Man:

    i didn't write it but there's sure an entry up there for such... RA
    added a few additional binaries, mainly... things that you had to hunt down a 3rd party tool for and might have to pay $$$ for... if it was included in RA, you didn't pay anything for it other than the RA reg stuffs... RAEdit was one such... it was a special compiled version of GEdit... there were other things available, too... but not all BBSes
    did this for their professional or commercial "packages"...

    But... Has RA ever went "freeware?"

    I see why you stick with your paid version, but tinker with many others. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Nicholas Boel on Thursday, April 14, 2016 22:17:42
    14 Apr 16 19:56, you wrote to me:

    i didn't write it but there's sure an entry up there for such... RA
    added a few additional binaries, mainly... things that you had to
    hunt down a 3rd party tool for and might have to pay $$$ for... if it
    was included in RA, you didn't pay anything for it other than the RA
    reg stuffs... RAEdit was one such... it was a special compiled
    version of GEdit... there were other things available, too... but not
    all BBSes did this for their professional or commercial "packages"...

    But... Has RA ever went "freeware?"

    not yet... i've thought about trying to get the source and update it but i don't know if the current owner would be willing to do that... and i don't know
    that i want to spend the next X period of time to learn someone else's code and
    then see what the current owner has done on top of that...

    I see why you stick with your paid version, but tinker with many
    others. :)

    it was $50US well spent ;)

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Thursday, April 14, 2016 22:20:14
    14 Apr 16 18:12, you wrote to me:

    I don't recall Synchronet ever having a "Professional Package".
    <shrug>

    i didn't write it but there's sure an entry up there for such...

    Some posted it, sure. Doesn't mean it's true.

    i would have thought you'd have shot the original post down if it were not valid... no biggie ;)

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to mark lewis on Thursday, April 14, 2016 22:10:21
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Thu Apr 14 2016 10:20 pm


    14 Apr 16 18:12, you wrote to me:

    I don't recall Synchronet ever having a "Professional Package".
    <shrug>

    i didn't write it but there's sure an entry up there for such...

    Some posted it, sure. Doesn't mean it's true.

    i would have thought you'd have shot the original post down if it were not valid... no biggie ;)

    I dismissed it as a trolling attempt and decided not to bite. :-)

    digital man

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    Synchronet apparel and merchandise can be purchased at cafepress.com/synchronet Norco, CA WX: 57.6øF, 79.0% humidity, 1 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Friday, April 15, 2016 00:43:42
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to mark lewis on Thu Apr 14 2016 10:10 pm

    Some posted it, sure. Doesn't mean it's true.

    i would have thought you'd have shot the original post down if it were not valid... no biggie ;)

    I dismissed it as a trolling attempt and decided not to bite. :-)


    well i dont think he was trolling; i just think he isnt thinking about the way things WERE back then. he's thinking of it in today's terms.

    also nobody forces anybody to buy anything. there were free alternatives out there.
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  • From Dran Draggore@VERT to Joe Delahaye on Friday, April 15, 2016 02:33:58
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Joe Delahaye to Dran Draggore on Thu Apr 14 2016 09:09 am

    500 bucks for 4 nodes. That's outrageous.

    You forgot to mention that was for the Professional Package. For you, that price gave you 250 Nodes

    Were there any actual 250-node BBS's ? if so, weren't they all using TBBS ?

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  • From Dran Draggore@VERT to mark lewis on Friday, April 15, 2016 02:46:09
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: mark lewis to Nicholas Boel on Thu Apr 14 2016 10:17 pm

    I see why you stick with your paid version, but tinker with many others. :)

    it was $50US well spent ;)

    Yeah but then you would've had to spend money on all the other RA stuff. It seems like almost every RA addon cost money. FrontDoor, FastEcho, lightbars etc. It's like a bad infomercial; but wait, there's more !

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  • From Dran Draggore@VERT to Digital Man on Friday, April 15, 2016 02:51:29
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to mark lewis on Thu Apr 14 2016 06:12 pm

    i didn't write it but there's sure an entry up there for such...

    Some posted it, sure. Doesn't mean it's true.

    It's on the official BBS FAQ, 10th Edition, January 2005.

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  • From Dran Draggore@VERT to Digital Man on Friday, April 15, 2016 02:57:35
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to mark lewis on Thu Apr 14 2016 10:10 pm

    i would have thought you'd have shot the original post down if it were not valid... no biggie ;)

    I dismissed it as a trolling attempt and decided not to bite. :-)

    Digital Man, it's ok to admit that you erred and changed your ways with recent versions of Synchronet being penance for past sins.

    500 bucks. That's like $1000 in today's terms, that could have gone to feeding a Ugandan or North Korean family, but some SysOp had to spend it on your BBS.

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Friday, April 15, 2016 12:01:04
    14 Apr 16 22:10, you wrote to me:

    Some posted it, sure. Doesn't mean it's true.

    i would have thought you'd have shot the original post down if it
    were not valid... no biggie ;)

    I dismissed it as a trolling attempt and decided not to bite. :-)

    hahaha... that's a valid option, too... i guess i'm more atuned to shooting down misinformation than letting it run free without a correction ;)

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Dran Draggore on Friday, April 15, 2016 12:03:38
    15 Apr 16 02:33, you wrote to Joe Delahaye:

    500 bucks for 4 nodes. That's outrageous.

    You forgot to mention that was for the Professional Package. For
    you, that price gave you 250 Nodes

    Were there any actual 250-node BBS's ? if so, weren't they all using TBBS
    ?

    yes and an emphatic no...

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Dran Draggore on Friday, April 15, 2016 12:04:30
    15 Apr 16 02:46, you wrote to me:

    I see why you stick with your paid version, but tinker with many
    others. :)

    it was $50US well spent ;)

    Yeah but then you would've had to spend money on all the other RA stuff.

    no i didn't...

    It seems like almost every RA addon cost money. FrontDoor, FastEcho,

    frontdoor and fastecho are not addons... they are separate programs in their own right and used for other purposes...

    lightbars etc. It's like a bad infomercial; but wait, there's more !

    lightbars? i never saw any need for them so i didn't fall for that mess... everything else i use(d) i either wrote or i paid for if it was really good...

    )\/(ark

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Dran Draggore on Friday, April 15, 2016 12:06:52
    15 Apr 16 02:51, you wrote to Digital Man:

    i didn't write it but there's sure an entry up there for such...

    Some posted it, sure. Doesn't mean it's true.

    It's on the official BBS FAQ, 10th Edition, January 2005.

    1. what makes that FAQ official?
    2. no link?
    3. found it on the internet so it /must/ be true even if it isn't.

    )\/(ark

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to mark lewis on Saturday, April 16, 2016 05:38:00
    mark lewis wrote to Dran Draggore <=-

    It seems like almost every RA addon cost money. FrontDoor, FastEcho,

    frontdoor and fastecho are not addons... they are separate programs in their own right and used for other purposes...

    And Binkleyterm was free. I used Bink with my RA system, and now it's all coming back to me, with BinkD. Recalled the outbound directory structure and the ?LO and ?UT files very quickly! :)

    lightbars etc. It's like a bad infomercial; but wait, there's more !

    lightbars? i never saw any need for them so i didn't fall for that
    mess... everything else i use(d) i either wrote or i paid for if it was really good...

    Yeah, I never went for lightbars either.


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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Dran Draggore on Friday, April 15, 2016 15:48:32
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Dran Draggore to Digital Man on Fri Apr 15 2016 02:57 am

    500 bucks. That's like $1000 in today's terms, that could have gone to feeding a Ugandan or North Korean family, but some SysOp had to spend it on your BBS.


    they would have just spent it all on cigarrettes and candy anyways.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to mark lewis on Friday, April 15, 2016 15:50:34
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Fri Apr 15 2016 12:01 pm


    hahaha... that's a valid option, too... i guess i'm more atuned to shooting down misinformation than letting it run free without a correction ;)



    yeah i gave the guy the benefit of the doubt but i guess he is trolling. that's okay it's entertainment. better than 'remember when we used modems' 'i like retro', 'i still have a closet full of 286s' type stuff.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to mark lewis on Friday, April 15, 2016 15:51:37
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: mark lewis to Dran Draggore on Fri Apr 15 2016 12:06 pm

    i didn't write it but there's sure an entry up there for such...

    Some posted it, sure. Doesn't mean it's true.

    It's on the official BBS FAQ, 10th Edition, January 2005.

    1. what makes that FAQ official?


    if i didnt write it, it's not official.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Dran Draggore on Friday, April 15, 2016 18:00:50
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Dran Draggore to Digital Man on Fri Apr 15 2016 02:51 am

    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to mark lewis on Thu Apr 14 2016 06:12 pm

    i didn't write it but there's sure an entry up there for such...

    Some posted it, sure. Doesn't mean it's true.

    It's on the official BBS FAQ, 10th Edition, January 2005.

    Never heard of it.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #20:
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Dran Draggore on Friday, April 15, 2016 18:02:24
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Dran Draggore to Digital Man on Fri Apr 15 2016 02:57 am

    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to mark lewis on Thu Apr 14 2016 10:10 pm

    i would have thought you'd have shot the original post down if it were not valid... no biggie ;)

    I dismissed it as a trolling attempt and decided not to bite. :-)

    Digital Man, it's ok to admit that you erred and changed your ways with recent versions of Synchronet being penance for past sins.

    500 bucks. That's like $1000 in today's terms, that could have gone to feeding a Ugandan or North Korean family, but some SysOp had to spend it on your BBS.

    "Had to"? You have a distorted sense of reality. And not a friendly distortion either.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #66:
    SEXYZ is as a 32-bit replacement for [F]DSZ, CE-XYZ and other protocol drivers. Norco, CA WX: 75.5øF, 9.0% humidity, 23 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Joe Delahaye@VERT to Dran Draggore on Friday, April 15, 2016 21:57:53
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Dran Draggore to Joe Delahaye on Fri Apr 15 2016 02:33:58


    You forgot to mention that was for the Professional Package. For you,
    that price gave you 250 Nodes

    Were there any actual 250-node BBS's ? if so, weren't they all using TBBS ?

    No idea. PCBoard had a few actuall BBS with that many. I connected with one daily to get my feed. That was POTS and QWK.
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  • From Dran Draggore@VERT to mark lewis on Saturday, April 16, 2016 02:01:11
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: mark lewis to Dran Draggore on Fri Apr 15 2016 12:06 pm

    It's on the official BBS FAQ, 10th Edition, January 2005.

    1. what makes that FAQ official?
    2. no link?
    3. found it on the internet so it /must/ be true even if it isn't.

    You're clutching at straws.

    It's the official BBS FAQ because it is the most supported and contributed-to BBS FAQ of the BBS era.

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  • From Dran Draggore@VERT to Mro on Saturday, April 16, 2016 02:04:31
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Mro to Dran Draggore on Fri Apr 15 2016 03:48 pm

    500 bucks. That's like $1000 in today's terms, that could have gone to feeding a Ugandan or North Korean family, but some SysOp had to spend it on your BBS.

    they would have just spent it all on cigarrettes and candy anyways.

    But it would have helped their economy. You must look at the big picture.

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  • From Deuce@VERT/BBSDEV to Dran Draggore on Saturday, April 16, 2016 09:39:28
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Dran Draggore to mark lewis on Sat Apr 16 2016 02:01 am

    It's on the official BBS FAQ, 10th Edition, January 2005.

    1. what makes that FAQ official?
    2. no link?
    3. found it on the internet so it /must/ be true even if it isn't.

    You're clutching at straws.

    It's the official BBS FAQ because it is the most supported and contributed-to BBS FAQ of the BBS era.

    Still no link. Since you're too stupid to post one, here you go: http://thebbs.org/bbsfaq/ch03.3.5.htm#3.5.27

    Here's an ad from 1995... http://wiki.synchro.net/_media/museum:ads:1995-08_accept_the_inevitable.png

    No "pro" version.

    In Janurary of 2005, Synchronet v2 had been in the public domain for eight years with free source code and binaries. v3 had been free for five years... and released under the GPL for four of them. I had already supported the FreeBSD port of GPL licensed Synchronet v3 for four years.

    Anyway, I dug up your FAQ... as it happens, the pro package apparently included "node license, shipping, QEMM Memory Manager, DESQview 386 Multitasker, & 4 port High Speed Seriel [sic] Cables"

    I paid around $400 for DESQview/X back in the day.

    Regardless, none of that matters. If you think that Digital Man was trying to get rich off of selling Synchronet you clearly don't have any grasp of BBS "companies" back in the day or any idea of how large their market was.

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Dran Draggore on Saturday, April 16, 2016 10:13:00
    Dran Draggore wrote to mark lewis <=-

    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: mark lewis to Dran Draggore on Fri Apr 15 2016 12:06 pm

    It's on the official BBS FAQ, 10th Edition, January 2005.

    1. what makes that FAQ official?
    2. no link?
    3. found it on the internet so it /must/ be true even if it isn't.

    You're clutching at straws.

    It's the official BBS FAQ because it is the most supported and contributed-to BBS FAQ of the BBS era.

    From the date alone, support has been far and few. It's sorta like saying the census of 1940 gives the actual number of people living in the US in 2016.


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  • From Dran Draggore@VERT to DEUCE on Sunday, April 17, 2016 01:12:00
    Quoting Deuce to Dran Draggore <=-

    Still no link. Since you're too stupid to post one, here you go: http://thebbs.org/bbsfaq/ch03.3.5.htm#3.5.27

    The BBS FAQ is not that hard to find.

    In Janurary of 2005, Synchronet v2 had been in the public domain for
    eight years with free source code and binaries. v3 had been free for
    five years... and released under the GPL for four of them. I had
    already supported the FreeBSD port of GPL licensed Synchronet v3 for
    four years.

    This only shows that the FAQ is out of date, as is with a lot of things related to BBS's.

    Anyway, I dug up your FAQ... as it happens, the pro package apparently included "node license, shipping, QEMM Memory Manager, DESQview 386 Multitasker, & 4 port High Speed Seriel [sic] Cables"
    I paid around $400 for DESQview/X back in the day.

    The pro package could have appeared in an earlier version of the BBS FAQ.

    Regardless, none of that matters. If you think that Digital Man was trying to get rich off of selling Synchronet you clearly don't have any grasp of BBS "companies" back in the day or any idea of how large their market was.

    The guy's taking his company to BBS conventions, floating a blimp, restricting licensed nodes for hundreds of dollars, bundling in other commercial software, and you're telling me there's no business sense or enterprise aspirations ?

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  • From Dran Draggore@VERT to DIGITAL MAN on Sunday, April 17, 2016 01:05:00
    Quoting Digital Man to Dran Draggore <=-

    500 bucks. That's like $1000 in today's terms, that could have gone to feeding a Ugandan or North Korean family, but some SysOp had to spend it on your BBS.

    "Had to"? You have a distorted sense of reality. And not a friendly distortion either.

    Cynicism is not necessarily friendly nor distorted. The SysOps who "had to" spend money on your BBS software chose to because of its terms of use. There is nothing distorted about the reality of license agreements. Would you have accepted people running 250 nodes of Synchronet v2.20 without paying for it ?

    You tried to make money with your software, and when you realised it was not viable you gave it away for the greater good. A lot of people have done what you did.

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  • From Dran Draggore@VERT to BILL MCGARRITY on Sunday, April 17, 2016 01:27:00
    Quoting Bill Mcgarrity to Dran Draggore <=-

    It's the official BBS FAQ because it is the most supported and contributed-to BBS FAQ of the BBS era.

    From the date alone, support has been far and few. It's sorta like
    saying the census of 1940 gives the actual number of people living in
    the US in 2016.

    Information can be officially out of date.

    It's still the official BBS FAQ for 2005.
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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Dran Draggore on Saturday, April 16, 2016 12:38:50
    16 Apr 16 02:01, you wrote to me:

    It's on the official BBS FAQ, 10th Edition, January 2005.

    1. what makes that FAQ official?
    2. no link?
    3. found it on the internet so it /must/ be true even if it isn't.

    You're clutching at straws.

    no straws... you could have posted the link...

    It's the official BBS FAQ because it is the most supported and contributed-to BBS FAQ of the BBS era.

    i've been a sysop since the early to mid 80s... i've been in fidonet almost as long... i've never heard of this FAQ... ever...

    )\/(ark

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Deuce on Saturday, April 16, 2016 12:42:24
    16 Apr 16 09:39, you wrote to Dran Draggore:

    It's on the official BBS FAQ, 10th Edition, January 2005.

    1. what makes that FAQ official?
    2. no link?
    3. found it on the internet so it /must/ be true even if it isn't.

    You're clutching at straws.

    It's the official BBS FAQ because it is the most supported and
    contributed-to BBS FAQ of the BBS era.

    Still no link. Since you're too stupid to post one, here you go: http://thebbs.org/bbsfaq/ch03.3.5.htm#3.5.27

    here's the next part that the OP left out...

    ----- snip -----
    (Professional packages include: node license, shipping, QEMM
    Memory Manager, DESQview 386 Multitasker, & 4 port High Speed
    Seriel Cables)
    ----- snip -----

    i can see exactly why the price was listed as what it was if it included QEMM and DESQview and those serial cables...

    Here's an ad from 1995... http://wiki.synchro.net/_media/museum:ads:1995-08_accept_the_inevitable.png

    No "pro" version.

    In Janurary of 2005, Synchronet v2 had been in the public domain for eight years with free source code and binaries. v3 had been free for five years... and released under the GPL for four of them. I had already supported the FreeBSD port of GPL licensed Synchronet v3 for four years.

    it is funny that that FAQ is dated 2005 Jan, too...

    Edition no. 10
    January 2005
    Copyright (C) 1994-2005


    Anyway, I dug up your FAQ... as it happens, the pro package apparently included "node license, shipping, QEMM Memory Manager, DESQview 386 Multitasker, & 4 port High Speed Seriel [sic] Cables"

    I paid around $400 for DESQview/X back in the day.

    no doubt! many of us did... i ran multinode RA and frontdoor under DESQview for
    a long while... frontdoor wasn't even multinode aware at that time but i still ran it like that :)

    Regardless, none of that matters. If you think that Digital Man was trying to get rich off of selling Synchronet you clearly don't have
    any grasp of BBS "companies" back in the day or any idea of how large their market was.

    no doubt there, either... there was some $$$ to be made but it wasn't all easy in the least...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Saturday, April 16, 2016 15:48:25
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to Dran Draggore on Fri Apr 15 2016 06:00 pm

    It's on the official BBS FAQ, 10th Edition, January 2005.

    Never heard of it.

    digital man


    i'm sure you've seen it and dont remember. it's the one pcmike made for thebbs.org
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Dran Draggore on Saturday, April 16, 2016 15:49:30
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Dran Draggore to mark lewis on Sat Apr 16 2016 02:01 am

    It's the official BBS FAQ because it is the most supported and contributed-to BBS FAQ of the BBS era.

    i think one guy made it.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Dran Draggore on Saturday, April 16, 2016 15:49:55
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Dran Draggore to Mro on Sat Apr 16 2016 02:04 am

    500 bucks. That's like $1000 in today's terms, that could have gone
    to feeding a Ugandan or North Korean family, but some SysOp had to spend it on your BBS.

    they would have just spent it all on cigarrettes and candy anyways.

    But it would have helped their economy. You must look at the big picture.


    any human that is not white is better off dead in my opinion.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to mark lewis on Saturday, April 16, 2016 15:50:45
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: mark lewis to Dran Draggore on Sat Apr 16 2016 12:38 pm


    i've been a sysop since the early to mid 80s... i've been in fidonet almost as long... i've never heard of this FAQ... ever...


    i'm sure you have.
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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Dran Draggore on Saturday, April 16, 2016 18:49:00
    Dran Draggore wrote to BILL MCGARRITY <=-

    Quoting Bill Mcgarrity to Dran Draggore <=-

    It's the official BBS FAQ because it is the most supported and contributed-to BBS FAQ of the BBS era.

    From the date alone, support has been far and few. It's sorta like
    saying the census of 1940 gives the actual number of people living in
    the US in 2016.

    Information can be officially out of date.

    It's still the official BBS FAQ for 2005.

    Information can drastically change in 11 years.... that's the point you seem to be missing. I learn from the past but I certainly have no desire to live in it.



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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to All on Saturday, April 16, 2016 20:36:45
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Dran Draggore to Digital Man on Fri Apr 15 2016 02:51 am

    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Digital Man to mark lewis on Thu Apr 14 2016 06:12 pm

    i didn't write it but there's sure an entry up there for such...

    Some posted it, sure. Doesn't mean it's true.

    It's on the official BBS FAQ, 10th Edition, January 2005.


    http://i.imgur.com/XzIWwOF.png


    looks like it is a cut and paste from some synchronet doc.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Bill McGarrity on Saturday, April 16, 2016 20:39:18
    Re: Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Bill McGarrity to Dran Draggore on Sat Apr 16 2016 06:49 pm

    Information can drastically change in 11 years.... that's the point you
    seem to be missing. I learn from the past but I certainly have no desire to live in it.


    he was just saying how much synchronet cost back then and he referenced the bbs faq. i looked at it and it looks like it's a cut and paste from synchronet docs.
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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dran Draggore on Sunday, April 17, 2016 02:14:48
    Hello Dran,

    On 17 Apr 16 01:12, Dran Draggore wrote to DEUCE:

    The guy's taking his company to BBS conventions, floating a blimp, restricting licensed nodes for hundreds of dollars, bundling in other commercial software, and you're telling me there's no business sense
    or enterprise aspirations ?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

    Wow, are you clueless.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Mro on Sunday, April 17, 2016 06:13:04
    16 Apr 16 15:50, you wrote to me:

    i've been a sysop since the early to mid 80s... i've been in fidonet
    almost as long... i've never heard of this FAQ... ever...

    i'm sure you have.

    actually, i have not... really... this is the first time that i've heard of it... rather surprising to find that pcmike was involved, too...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Mro on Sunday, April 17, 2016 11:09:00
    Mro wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Bill McGarrity to Dran Draggore on Sat Apr 16 2016 06:49 pm

    Information can drastically change in 11 years.... that's the point you
    seem to be missing. I learn from the past but I certainly have no desire to live in it.


    he was just saying how much synchronet cost back then and he referenced the bbs faq. i looked at it and it looks like it's a cut and paste
    from synchronet docs.

    Who really cares what the price was back then... it's 2016 and the software Rob is distributing has nothing to do with the software then other than a name. People have to stop living in the past...


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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Tony Langdon on Sunday, April 17, 2016 08:57:43
    Re: Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Tony Langdon to mark lewis on Sat Apr 16 2016 05:38 am

    Yeah, I never went for lightbars either.

    The only time I liked them was on an old SLBBS install that I co-sysoped. I've tried duplicating that, might have been a third-party menu. This was back in 1989 or so...

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to mark lewis on Sunday, April 17, 2016 12:19:53
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: mark lewis to Mro on Sun Apr 17 2016 06:13 am

    actually, i have not... really... this is the first time that i've heard of it... rather surprising to find that pcmike was involved, too...



    why are you so suprised? thebbs.org was a huge part of bbsing for many many years.

    he also ran bbsnews , dyndns services, free hosting, a banner site and many other services.

    http://thebbs.org/mainmenu.htm
    ^^^
    the link to the faq is there
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Bill McGarrity on Sunday, April 17, 2016 12:21:44
    Re: Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Bill McGarrity to Mro on Sun Apr 17 2016 11:09 am

    he was just saying how much synchronet cost back then and he
    referenced the bbs faq. i looked at it and it looks like it's a cut and paste from synchronet docs.

    Who really cares what the price was back then... it's 2016 and the software Rob is distributing has nothing to do with the software then other than a name. People have to stop living in the past...


    i'm just saying what he was saying. i think a lot of people are jumping in and dont even know wtf the thread is even about. hell, the subject is still "re:how to enable;edit?"
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Poindexter Fortran on Monday, April 18, 2016 07:15:00
    Poindexter Fortran wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    The only time I liked them was on an old SLBBS install that I
    co-sysoped. I've tried duplicating that, might have been a third-party menu. This was back in 1989 or so...

    SL as in Searchlight? One system I could never warm to. One of the boards I occasionally called ran Searchlight, and I think I encountered another over the years too. RA and Maximus were the popular choices down here.


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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Mro on Sunday, April 17, 2016 17:38:00
    Mro wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Bill McGarrity to Mro on Sun Apr 17 2016 11:09 am

    he was just saying how much synchronet cost back then and he
    referenced the bbs faq. i looked at it and it looks like it's a cut and paste from synchronet docs.

    Who really cares what the price was back then... it's 2016 and the software Rob is distributing has nothing to do with the software then other than a name. People have to stop living in the past...


    i'm just saying what he was saying. i think a lot of people are jumping
    in and dont even know wtf the thread is even about. hell, the subject
    is still "re:how to enable;edit?"

    I know exactly what he was trying to do. He was the one who took this thread off topic with his weak excuse of trying to get a rise out of DM. Why bring shit up from 11 years ago if it's not to illiciet some sort of negative response.

    It's over... you can continue discussing this feeble attempt at character assassination but I draw the line here....

    Enjoy...


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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Bill McGarrity on Sunday, April 17, 2016 17:35:56
    Re: Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Bill McGarrity to Mro on Sun Apr 17 2016 05:38 pm

    I know exactly what he was trying to do. He was the one who took this thread off topic with his weak excuse of trying to get a rise out of DM.


    i think this thread has been off topic a looong time. it was about how to enable the ;edit function in someone's command shell.
    thread off topic with his weak excuse of trying to get a rise out of DM.
    Why bring shit up from 11 years ago if it's not to illiciet some sort of negative response.

    It's over... you can continue discussing this feeble attempt at character assassination but I draw the line here....


    well he didnt get rob swindell's goat so you shouldnt let him get yours.
    it's just the internet, no reason to be mad at someone you've never met and will never know.
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  • From Deuce@VERT/BBSDEV to Dran Draggore on Monday, April 18, 2016 02:38:27
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Dran Draggore to DEUCE on Sun Apr 17 2016 01:12 am

    Still no link. Since you're too stupid to post one, here you go: http://thebbs.org/bbsfaq/ch03.3.5.htm#3.5.27

    The BBS FAQ is not that hard to find.

    And yet you can't provide a link to it when asked.

    This only shows that the FAQ is out of date, as is with a lot of things related to BBS's.

    So you would agree that on the date it was published, a simple web search would have shown that it was wrong?

    The pro package could have appeared in an earlier version of the BBS FAQ.

    Now you're just making things up. It's also possible that you maliciously edited the FAQ by hacking the server.

    The guy's taking his company to BBS conventions, floating a blimp, restricting licensed nodes for hundreds of dollars, bundling in other commercial software, and you're telling me there's no business sense or enterprise aspirations ?

    Right, as I said, you have no grasp of the BBS companies. Almost all of them were formed so that the authors could afford to work full time on the software, not so that they could get rich. The ones that were in it for the big bucks were almost never ran by the author.

    I'm telling you that you don't understand anything about that time period. I'm telling you that BBS companies were just trying to make enough money to live off of. I'm telling you that your reference is wrong. I'm telling you that you have no concept of what it cost to run a four node BBS in the mid 90s, let along a 250 node one. I'm telling you that $500 for a 250 node license is $2 per node, and the phone line for that would cost about $20 per month, and the BBS would collect at least $300 in revenue each month for that node or would cut back on the number of nodes. I'm telling you that expecting the author of the BBS software to expect less than 1% worth of one months revenue for a lifetime license to software that takes five man-years of work to develop and is a full time job to support is not some weird unfair price gouging.

    I'm telling you that you're clearly ignorant and are making yourself look like an idiot.

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  • From Deuce@VERT/BBSDEV to Dran Draggore on Monday, April 18, 2016 02:39:21
    Re: Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Dran Draggore to BILL MCGARRITY on Sun Apr 17 2016 01:27 am

    Information can be officially out of date.

    Who is the official in charge of certifying the out-of-dateness of information?

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  • From HusTler@VERT/DECKHEVN to Dran Draggore on Monday, April 18, 2016 13:24:25
    Re: How to enable ;EDIT?
    By: Dran Draggore to Hustler on Thu Apr 14 2016 04:44 am

    By: Hustler to Digital Man on Thu Apr 07 2016 11:47 am

    Mr. Digital Man...I know this is off topic but I am very curious. What
    BBS

    "Mr" Digital Man ? -- by the sounds of it, don't you mean "Your Royal Highness, King of Kings, holy defender of the faith - saviour from heaven"

    Errrr. Sounds like a personal problem. Ok.. Ahem.. Dear your Holyness Digital Man. What BBS software did you use prior to writing Synchronet?

    How was that? Better?

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Tony Langdon on Monday, April 18, 2016 12:04:00
    Tony Langdon wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    SL as in Searchlight? One system I could never warm to. One of the boards I occasionally called ran Searchlight, and I think I encountered another over the years too.

    Yes, SL = Searchlight. I was never a big fan of Searchlight but loved
    the way the BBS I co-sysoped was set up.



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