How do I delete system list entries in SycnTERM ?
How do I delete system list entries in SycnTERM ?
Highlight the system entry, and hit delete?
There's a status bar on the bottom of the screen that gives you a small list of
hotkeys and what they do (ie: F1 Help, F2 Edit Item, INS Add Item, DEL Delete Item, ESC Exit). Are you able to see those?
There's a status bar on the bottom of the screen that gives you a
small list of hotkeys and what they do (ie: F1 Help, F2 Edit Item,
INS Add Item, DEL Delete Item, ESC Exit). Are you able to see
those?
When I press DEL on an entry, it says "Cannot delete system list
entries".
Apparently there are hardcoded entries in SyncTERM. I have checked my program directory and do not see any obvious files that may contain
these "system entries".
Is SyncTERM using forced advertising ?
When I press DEL on an entry, it says "Cannot delete system list entries".
Apparently there are hardcoded entries in SyncTERM. I have checked my program directory and do not see any obvious files that may contain these
Is SyncTERM using forced advertising ?
When I press DEL on an entry, it says "Cannot delete system list entries".
I don't seem to have that problem. Did you use the beta installer or did you just snag Deuce's original syncterm.zip file from bbsdev.net?
syncterm.lst I believe is the filename you're looking for when it comes to the system entries.
when you have a problem you should say what os you are running and what version of syncterm you are using.
also specify the entry that you are trying to delete.
Is SyncTERM using forced advertising ?
boy that would be a fucking laugh.
Is SyncTERM using forced advertising ?
boy that would be a fucking laugh.
That's what I thought, but you better believe it. Here's the proof:
Is SyncTERM using forced advertising ?
boy that would be a fucking laugh.
That's what I thought, but you better believe it. Here's the proof:
SyncTERM 1.0 - SDL Sun Apr 03 2016 12:01
am
that said it can't delete a list entry... it didn't say or show anything about forced advertising...
Is SyncTERM using forced advertising ?
I didnt see any advertising in the screen dump???
For example, I'm trying to delete "Batterstar BBS".
Is SyncTERM using forced advertising ?
boy that would be a fucking laugh.That's what I thought, but you better believe it. Here's the proof:
the one in this vm is in c:\ProgramData\SyncTERM\
hope this 'feature' gets removed in syncterm because it's pretty stupid.
I don't seem to have that problem. Did you use the beta installer
or did you just snag Deuce's original syncterm.zip file from
bbsdev.net?
I got the latest file from SourceForge (SyncTERM-1.0-setup.exe).
When I open SyncTerm, there's about 100 pre-defined BBSes in the list.
syncterm.lst I believe is the filename you're looking for when it
comes to the system entries.
My syncterm.list file (C:\Users\bbsop\AppData\Roaming\SyncTERM\syncterm.lst) seems to only contain BBSes that I've called / successfully connected to. It appears
to be automatically updated when selecting any of the
pre-defined entries in the SyncTERM phone book.
That's another thing. When I successfully connect to a pre-defined
entry, SyncTERM moves that entry to the top of the phone book. It then allows me to delete the entry, but then restores it as it was before
(ie. a "system list" entry).
geez, i just downloaded it to a vm and checked it out.
not only does it NOT let you delete any of the entries, it has several bbses that suck really bad. :D
/facepalm.
How do I delete system list entries in SycnTERM ?
That's what I thought, but you better believe it. Here's the proof:
that said it can't delete a list entry... it didn't say or show anything about forced advertising...
That's what I thought, but you better believe it. Here's the proof:
SyncTERM 1.0 - SDL Sun Apr 03 2016 12:01
am
I didnt see any advertising in the screen dump???
syncterm probably shouldnt even come with a list of crappy synchronet bbses anyways.
BUT.. you can easily remove them by searching for syncterm.lst and editing it with a text editor.
the one in this vm is in c:\ProgramData\SyncTERM\
If you want a list of good bbses check out the syncterm and mtelnet generated lists on bbslist.bbses.info (this isnt an advertisement, but you will atleast have a list of a few good bbses on your syncterm.lst if you use it)
why does syncterm need 2 lists? why do they have to be in odd locations? can't they just be in the same directory with syncterm? syncterm is just a little terminal program, i dont think it should have its data files scattered about my harddrive.
anyways, if you dont like it, don't use it. i prefer mtelnet for windows and i just checked out qodem and it's really nice.
if you dont like mtelnet i'd say use qodem.
I got the latest file from SourceForge (SyncTERM-1.0-setup.exe).
When I open SyncTerm, there's about 100 pre-defined BBSes in the list.
That's not the latest. "syncterm.zip" is the latest. What you grabbed was basically an old version of Syncterm (not sure when it was last updated) with an installer built into it by someone other than the original developer.
If you want to start with a clean slate, uninstall what you have, and grab syncterm.zip from syncterm.bbsdev.net (the Win32 link - NOT the installer).
I got the latest file from SourceForge (SyncTERM-1.0-setup.exe).
When I open SyncTerm, there's about 100 pre-defined BBSes in the list.
That's not the latest. "syncterm.zip" is the latest. What you grabbed was basically an old version of Syncterm (not sure when it was last updated) with an installer built into it by someone other than the original developer.
If you want to start with a clean slate, uninstall what you have, and grab syncterm.zip from syncterm.bbsdev.net (the Win32 link - NOT the installer).
If terminal software comes with a default pre-populated phone book, then those entries are advertisements.
It would not be so annoying if the option was provided to disable or remove those BBS entries. However, no option is given, even in the menus.
What's the consensus on what makes a good BBS these days ?
mTelnet is my first choice. But it doesn't work in Windows 7.
That's not the latest. "syncterm.zip" is the latest. What you
grabbed was basically an old version of Syncterm (not sure when it
was last updated) with an installer built into it by someone other
than the original developer.
More treachery from SourceForge. "SyncTERM-1.0-setup.exe" looks more legitimate than "syncterm.zip". The SourceForge
If you want to start with a clean slate, uninstall what you have,
and grab syncterm.zip from syncterm.bbsdev.net (the Win32 link -
NOT the installer).
Sounds like a good idea, but "syncterm.bbsdev.net" does not resolve.
Re: Re: How to delete system list entries ?
By: Mro to All on Sun Apr 03 2016 11:18 am
why does syncterm need 2 lists? why do they have to be in odd locations? can't they just be in the same directory with syncterm? syncterm is just a little terminal program, i dont think it should have its data files scattered about my harddrive.
Maybe it has to do with changes to default directories in different versions of Windows.
anyways, if you dont like it, don't use it. i prefer mtelnet for windows and i just checked out qodem and it's really nice.
mTelnet is my first choice. But it doesn't work in Windows 7.
if you dont like mtelnet i'd say use qodem.
SyncTERM is ok. The previous versions I remember didn't have this forced advertising. So I was shocked.
That's not the latest. "syncterm.zip" is the latest. What you
grabbed was basically an old version of Syncterm (not sure when it
was last updated) with an installer built into it by someone other
than the original developer.
More treachery from SourceForge. "SyncTERM-1.0-setup.exe" looks more legitimate than "syncterm.zip". The SourceForge
I don't think that has anything to do with sourceforge. While it may be hosted there, syncterm.zip is what Deuce creates nightly, as far as I know.
It's not "forced advertising", it's simply a pre-populated BBS list. If you use the "Get Synchronet BBS List" menu option (from the Windows start
menu), it'll update those entries (including removing old ones) from the official Synchronet BBS List on Vertrauen. You can even edit this script (SyncTERM/getlist.ftp) to update the system's SyncTERM list from *another* Internet-based BBS List (there are others). Or you can just delete the list as has already been detailed here.
Seems like you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. In any case, I'll update the installer for a future release to make the "system list" an option (checkbox) during installation.
More treachery from SourceForge. "SyncTERM-1.0-setup.exe" looks more legitimate than "syncterm.zip". The SourceForge
I don't think that has anything to do with sourceforge. While it may be hosted there, syncterm.zip is what Deuce creates nightly, as far as I know.
Sounds like a good idea, but "syncterm.bbsdev.net" does not resolve.
I accessed it just now, so I don't know what to tell you on that one.
mTelnet is my first choice. But it doesn't work in Windows 7.
mtelnet works in windows 7 64bit and 32bit.
It's not "forced advertising", it's simply a pre-populated BBS list. If you use the "Get Synchronet BBS List" menu option (from the Windows start menu), it'll update those entries (including removing old ones) from the official Synchronet BBS List on Vertrauen. You can even edit this script (SyncTERM/getlist.ftp) to update the system's SyncTERM list from *another* Internet-based BBS List (there are others). Or you can just delete the list as has already been detailed here.
Seems like you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. In any case, I'll update the installer for a future release to make the "system list" an option (checkbox) during installation.
sourceforge is bit weird about how it picks its current version downloads. but...looks like the one on sourceforge is dated 08-05-2015. this date is for the executable, .dmg, tgz, and .zip versions on sourceforge.
then he has stuff on github and his website. i would just keep it one place and nuke sourceforge since it sucks now in comparison to github.
looks like latest version allows you to delete the entries in the list. OR... it doesnt have that list in programdata because i used the .zip and not installer. maybe if you do have a listin programdata it wont let you delete from it now. or he shitcanned the idea. dunno and dont feel like testing it.
mTelnet is my first choice. But it doesn't work in Windows 7.
mtelnet works in windows 7 64bit and 32bit.
Oh I know what's wrong I was clicking on the non-32 bit executable :) d'Oh ...
I didnt see any advertising in the screen dump???
Didn't you see all those BBS's that couldn't be deleted ?
mTelnet is my first choice. But it doesn't work in Windows 7.
I accessed it just now, so I don't know what to tell you on that one.
Weird. I've tried "http://ping.eu/nslookup/", and this it what it says:
Didn't you see all those BBS's that couldn't be deleted ?
That is not advertising. There apparently are ways to delete them from the list, from what I have been reading here.
Weird. I've tried "http://ping.eu/nslookup/", and this it what it says:
why use something like that? what's wrong with nslookup??
The phone book is an important and highly visible part of a dialing program. For it to come preinstalled with a list of BBS's is advertising. These entries are not default configuration options or program features - they are highly personalised entries submitted by participants who want to advertise their BBS's.
Re: Re: How to delete system list entries ?
By: Dran Draggore to Joe Delahaye on Thu Apr 07 2016 12:10:35
The phone book is an important and highly visible part of a dialing program. For it to come preinstalled with a list of BBS's is advertising. These entries are not default configuration options or program features - they are highly personalised entries submitted by participants who want to advertise their BBS's.
Some time ago, I downloaded a new version of SyncTerm and I saw my BBS in its list. I didn't submit it though, so I don't know who put it in there.
I imagined whoever packaged that version of SyncTerm had put those BBSes on the list. I've never seen any forms or anything for sysops to submit their BBS to SyncTerm, so I don't know why that would be the case. Do you have a link to a form or anything you think sysops are using to submit their BBS to SyncTerm for this purpose?
The phone book is an important and highly visible part of a dialing program. For it to come preinstalled with a list of BBS's is advertising. These entries are not default configuration options or program features - they are highly personalised entries submitted by participants who want to advertise their BBS's.
The phone book is an important and highly visible part of a dialing program. For it to come preinstalled with a list of BBS's is advertising. These entries are not default configuration options or program features - they are highly personalised entries submitted by participants who want to advertise their BBS's.
Some time ago, I downloaded a new version of SyncTerm and I saw my BBS in its list. I didn't submit it though, so I don't know who put it in there.
I imagined whoever packaged that version of SyncTerm had put those BBSes on the list. I've never seen any forms or anything for sysops to submit their BBS to SyncTerm, so I don't know why that would be the case. Do you have a link to a form or anything you think sysops are using to submit their BBS to SyncTerm for this purpose?
The phone book is an important and highly visible part of a dialing program. For it to come preinstalled with a list of BBS's is advertising. These entries are not default configuration options or program features - they are highly personalised entries submitted by participants who want to advertise their BBS's.
The only problem here is that there aren't any obvious instructions on how to maintain or delete your system-wide SyncTERM address book.
Sounds like a good idea, but "syncterm.bbsdev.net" does not
resolve.
I accessed it just now, so I don't know what to tell you on that one.
Weird. I've tried "http://ping.eu/nslookup/", and this it what it says:
DNS lookup - Look up DNS record
IP address or host name:
syncterm.bbsdev.net
Re: Re: How to delete system list entries ?
By: Mro to Nicholas Boel on Wed Apr 06 2016 07:48 pm
sourceforge is bit weird about how it picks its current version downloads. but...looks like the one on sourceforge is dated 08-05-2015. this date is for the executable, .dmg, tgz, and .zip versions on sourceforge.
From what I remember, it defaults to the newest file uploaded. But this can then be manually set by the project owner.
then he has stuff on github and his website. i would just keep it one place and nuke sourceforge since it sucks now in comparison to github.
GitHub is for browsing source code. SourceForge is more appropriate for packaged distributions.
Actually no, upon closer inspection what happened is there's something
wrong with the default "mtel.cfg" in the "mt32installer.exe":
PS C:\Program Files (x86)\mtelnet> ./mt32.exe
Runtime error 5 at 00401332 (D:\TERM\MTEL.PAS#197) TID=1.
PS C:\Program Files (x86)\mtelnet>
PS C:\Program Files (x86)\mtelnet> del mtel.cfg
Deleting the "mtel.cfg" fixed it.
The one in "mtelb12.zip" is ok.
I didnt see any advertising in the screen dump???
Didn't you see all those BBS's that couldn't be deleted ?
That is not advertising. There apparently are ways to delete them from the list, from what I have been reading here.
While we're talking about syncterm lists I just wanted to give a shout-out to telnetbbsguide.com - where you can download a BBS list that's constantly curated to include almost 400 boards that are confirmed active each month.
are using to submit their BBS to SyncTerm for this purpose?
Ok I see your point.
Perhaps spam is a better word.
The only problem here is that there aren't any obvious instructions on how to maintain or delete your system-wide SyncTERM address book.
In past versions of SyncTerm, it was fairly easy to add an entry to the list (by
using the Insert key, I believe, or editing the empty entry at the bottom) and to
remove entries (by using the delete key). I think it works the same way in SyncTerm 1.0, which I am currently using. I'd find it hard to believe that they
would make it more difficult to edit the address book.
Deleting the "mtel.cfg" fixed it.
The one in "mtelb12.zip" is ok.
you probably have a corrupted archive. no problem here.
GitHub is for browsing source code. SourceForge is more appropriate for packaged distributions.
eh, you can put anything on github. sf has a bit of a black eye because of it messing with people's distros. (adware executables)
I get how you might interpret this as advertising, but I imagine it was intended as a helpful pre-populated list to get you started. In fact this follows on from discussion that's happened here in the past where several people wanted such a list, and even wanted one that updated itself automatically. (I bet you'd love that feature.)
I think you're making a leap in assuming that every system on that list was submitted by some self-serving "participant" sysop who wants to shove advertising (a whole line of text!) down your throat. I'm not aware of any submission process to get on this list, though perhaps it exists.
The only problem here is that there aren't any obvious instructions on how to maintain or delete your system-wide SyncTERM address book. Maybe you should just contact the developer (whom I don't think has chimed in on this
thread yet) and suggest that this information makes it into the program's help function or whatever. Indignant whining really doesn't help, and it's painful to read.
While we're talking about syncterm lists I just wanted to give a shout-out to telnetbbsguide.com - where you can download a BBS list that's constantly curated to include almost 400 boards that are confirmed active each month.
While we're talking about syncterm lists I just wanted to give a shout-out to telnetbbsguide.com - where you can download a BBS list that's constantly curated to include almost 400 boards that are confirmed active each month.
we've all been here longer than you so we know about telnetbbsguide.
Perhaps spam is a better word.
it's also missing the best bbs currently avaliable.
In past versions of SyncTerm, it was fairly easy to add an entry to the list (by
using the Insert key, I believe, or editing the empty entry at the bottom) and to
remove entries (by using the delete key). I think it works the same way in SyncTerm 1.0, which I am currently using. I'd find it hard to believe that they
would make it more difficult to edit the address book.
Re: Re: How to delete system list entries ?
By: Mro to Dran Draggore on Fri Apr 08 2016 05:24 pm
Deleting the "mtel.cfg" fixed it.
The one in "mtelb12.zip" is ok.
you probably have a corrupted archive. no problem here.
I'm now playing with Telix 3.51 and Terminate 5.00 over a vmodem. Seems to work alright.
That site is ok.
One of the things I'm interested in is trends in BBS software. Is there
such a list ?
I like to reflect on all those authors who tried to make
money and scouge me and are now bankrupt and futureless. I like to rub it
in their noses that I'm deriving great pleasure using a cracked version of RemoteAccess, BlueWave Reader/Door, or can get TBBS for free on bbsdocumentary.
okay but where did you get your archive for mtelnet from.
history has shown is they moved on and are probably doing better than you and they dont give a shit.
infact, some have said use a crack instead of hassling them to find old code.
it's also missing the best bbs currently avaliable.
It's not "forced advertising", it's simply a pre-populated BBS list. If you use the "Get Synchronet BBS List" menu option (from the Windows start
I was reading some forum that had reports of people getting scammed for trying to register LORD. The original developer has the keygen but is too scared to use it. The guy needs to get some balls. Nobody cares about 20 year old stuff.
Actually no, upon closer inspection what happened is there's something wrong with the default "mtel.cfg" in the "mt32installer.exe":
PS C:\Program Files (x86)\mtelnet> ./mt32.exe
Runtime error 5 at 00401332 (D:\TERM\MTEL.PAS#197) TID=1.
PS C:\Program Files (x86)\mtelnet>
PS C:\Program Files (x86)\mtelnet> del mtel.cfg
Deleting the "mtel.cfg" fixed it.
Mro wrote in a message to Dran Draggore:
it's also missing the best bbs currently avaliable.
Why isn't Tiny's BBS in the list?!?! ;)
the guy that owns metro works at multiserv in kansas and he's a bit of an oddball. he must have made some money off of lord and majormudd over the years because he's not giving anything up without some serious $$$.
In past versions of SyncTerm, it was fairly easy to add an entry to
the list (by
using the Insert key, I believe, or editing the empty entry at the
bottom) and to
remove entries (by using the delete key). I think it works the same
way in SyncTerm 1.0, which I am currently using. I'd find it hard to
believe that they
would make it more difficult to edit the address book.
I think what he's saying is that it's not clear how to manage the "system-wide" SyncTERM address book (bbs list). And it's true: the system-wide list is a separate file from the user-specific list. When you add, modify, and remove entries from the BBS list in SyncTERM, it's only modifying the user-specific list. This feature (the system list) in SyncTERM is not currently well documented.
the guy that owns metro works at multiserv in kansas and he's a bit of
an oddball. he must have made some money off of lord and majormudd over the years because he's not giving anything up without some serious $$$.
Based on the reports in 2012, he sounds like a scammer to me.
$15. I'm not paying $15 for LORD.
I found a working LORD 4.02 and serial pair on Google. It's not 4.07 but I don't think I'm missing anything.
Re: Re: How to delete system list entries ?
By: Digital Man to Dran Draggore on Wed Apr 06 2016 05:16 pm
It's not "forced advertising", it's simply a pre-populated BBS list. If you use the "Get Synchronet BBS List" menu option (from the Windows start
yeah but lets say you buy a new car and in the included gps are certain local gas stations but not all of them. that's advertising.
and like i stated before, there's people that use syncterm for things other than calling synchronet bbses or even bbses at all.
Sure. And they still can. And the list can be very easily removed or
edited.
Re: Re: How to delete system list entries ?
By: Digital Man to Mro on Sun Apr 10 2016 06:15 pm
Sure. And they still can. And the list can be very easily removed or edited.
well the version that he had from sourceforge didnt allow deleting entries. i think it was an old version compared to the builds on the syncterm website.
nah, he's not a scammer. he just is weird.
also some of these people arent bright as well.
$15. I'm not paying $15 for LORD.
why not? it's the best doorgame ever made. if your users use it, i'd pay for it.
I found a working LORD 4.02 and serial pair on Google. It's not 4.07 but I don't think I'm missing anything.
guess you arent looking so well. registered 4.07 and 4.08[dosemu patch]
have been passed around since it was released. also there's a crack program made
by a cracker group.
i wouldnt run 4.2. that one has issues.
Deleting the "mtel.cfg" fixed it.
okay i dont know what you are inspecting that installer with , but i just created a fresh vm and ran the installer and there's no corrupted files and the 1kb mtel.cfg file is created and intact.
check to see if you have corrupted memory or some program messing with the installation.
Synchronet "Real Fact" #41:
Rob Swindell was laughed out of a FidoNet Net103 (OC, Calif.) meeting
in 1992.
Dran Draggore wrote to Mro <=-
I don't know what happened. But it's all good now because I'm having a whale of a time with Telix and Terminate. I should find Telemate to complete the circle. --- SBBSecho 2.99-Win32
infact, some have said use a crack instead of hassling them to find old code.
I don't know what happened. But it's all good now because I'm having a whale of a time with Telix and Terminate. I should find Telemate to complete the circle. --- SBBSecho 2.99-Win32
Now, there's a trio of classic terminal programs! :)
I'm looking for the reg codes for Arrowbridge I and II.
well the version that he had from sourceforge didnt allow deleting entries. i think it was an old version compared to the builds on the syncterm website.
It has nothing to do with the version of SyncTERM. SyncTERM has supported the concept of a "system list" for a long time. This just happens to be the first Windows installer that included a system list by default. "system lists" are not edited using SyncTERM itself, but rather with a text editor (or just by copying/moving/deleting the file using normal file system shell commands).
The desire to add a list may have arose from a close-knit community in the interest of convenience and identity-building, but if that's the cause then somebody forgot to tell the wider audience.
Apparently that list comes from the 'official' Synchronet BBS list. So I believe there's a process to apply to get on that list.
Digital Man has admitted to contributing / maintaining the installer. There's also another guy - tracker1.
Well that depends on how you feel about the facist dictatorism of indelible phone books, and tacit claims that SyncTERM is cool and popular telnet BBS client.
why not? it's the best doorgame ever made. if your users use it, i'd
pay for it.
It's not all that. Usurper is heaps better. And it looks like Usurper is
I'm looking for the reg codes for Arrowbridge I and II. Would you know
where I can get them ? I searched the net for a while and only found keys for Arrowbridge II -- and I'm not even sure they'll work. Apparently Arrowbridge is freeware, so I'd expect an official keygen or prestine, pre-registered or unlocked download somewhere but I haven't been able to find it.
Hi Digital,
On 2016-04-11 01:01:57, you wrote to Mro:
Synchronet "Real Fact" #41:
Rob Swindell was laughed out of a FidoNet Net103 (OC, Calif.) meeting in 1992.
Why?
Hi Digital,
On 2016-04-11 01:01:57, you wrote to Mro:
Synchronet "Real Fact" #41:
Rob Swindell was laughed out of a FidoNet Net103 (OC, Calif.) meeting in 1992.
Why?
Re: Re: How to delete system list entries ?
By: Digital Man to Mro on Mon Apr 11 2016 01:01 am
well the version that he had from sourceforge didnt allow deleting entries. i think it was an old version compared to the builds on the syncterm website.
It has nothing to do with the version of SyncTERM. SyncTERM has supported the concept of a "system list" for a long time. This just happens to be the first Windows installer that included a system list by default. "system lists" are not edited using SyncTERM itself, but rather with a text editor (or just by copying/moving/deleting the file using normal file system shell commands).
that's very odd to not be able to delete from the default system list from the syncterm interface. i dont see what the point of preventing deletion is.
Re: Re: #41
By: Wilfred van Velzen to Digital Man on Mon Apr 11 2016 11:06 am
Hi Digital,
On 2016-04-11 01:01:57, you wrote to Mro:
Synchronet "Real Fact" #41:
Rob Swindell was laughed out of a FidoNet Net103 (OC, Calif.) meeting in 1992.
Why?
wow someone reads those things.
anyways, were they big belly laughs with pointing?
because that would be funny.
wow someone reads those things.
anyways, were they big belly laughs with pointing?
Not really. More like snickering and whispering.
because that would be funny.
It wasn't funny at the time. And they didn't exactly "kick me out"
either. It was more like: "yeah, that's cute kid, now back to the
business of men. You can stay if you really want to, but, um...
ahem".
Dran Draggore wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Now, there's a trio of classic terminal programs! :)
Yeah, the "three T's" as some reviewer put it.
Synchronet "Real Fact" #41:meeting
Rob Swindell was laughed out of a FidoNet Net103 (OC, Calif.)
in 1992.
Why?
Because I was this kid (22 years old), full of enthusiam for my software, and these old guys (not one was under 50, which was old to me at the time) weren't really interested in anything new or different from what they were used to. However, they did provide some pointed questions/concerns which I mulled over later and addressed with Synchronet v2. So it was a good experience, in hindsight.
I'm looking for the reg codes for Arrowbridge I and II.
there are no reg codes for AB-I... it is freeware since 1999 July when v1.40 was released...
Because I was this kid (22 years old), full of enthusiam for my software, and these old guys (not one was under 50, which was old to
me at the time) weren't really interested in anything new or different from what they were used to. However, they did provide some pointed questions/concerns which I mulled over later and addressed with Synchronet v2. So it was a good experience, in hindsight.
Mro wrote to All <=-
there's also the fact that most kids do think they know everything and
are short sighted and older people do have a lot to offer. but then
you get that jealousy they older folks have towards young people.
from what they were used to. However, they did provide some pointed questions/concerns which I mulled over later and addressed with Synchronet v2. So it was a good experience, in hindsight.
Thanks for the nice story! ;)
Everyone has something to offer. A lot of young people (and older out of
Anyone who excludes anyone else for some perceived difference is robbing everyone involved of some qualities.
Yep, I liked them all, and each had its own strengths. Probaby used Telix the most of the 3, but was particularly fond of Terminate, if I recall. Installing Telix in DOSBox is on my "things to tinker with" list. :D
Dran Draggore wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: mt32 issue
By: Tony Langdon to Dran Draggore on Tue Apr 12 2016 09:32 am
Yep, I liked them all, and each had its own strengths. Probaby used Telix the most of the 3, but was particularly fond of Terminate, if I recall. Installing Telix in DOSBox is on my "things to tinker with" list. :D
Same here. Telix was easy to use.
But watch out. I'm using Terminate right now and it appears CTRL-Y
doesn't work well in FSEditor, even with Doorway-mode on.
Terminate was awesome, but it did have a few hiccups, I recall. Doorway mode, that brings back memories. I remember writing not only a shell to DOS, but a "relogin" function for my RA BBS, so I could swap users (had to make the modem ignore DCD to avoid getting hung up), without incurring
another 25c for a new call. I was even able to reboot the BBS PC from a DOS shell (had a little "reboot.com" program written in bachine code (EA 00 00 FF FF, if I recall ;) to reboot the PC), then simulate a modem by hand to get back on the BBS. Got pretty good at typing ATA commands and responses by hand! :D
Dran Draggore wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Couldn't you have just switched users by running RA as a regular door ? that way you wouldn't need to worry about DCD.
another 25c for a new call. I was even able to reboot the BBS PC from a DOS shell (had a little "reboot.com" program written in bachine code (EA 00 00 FF FF, if I recall ;) to reboot the PC), then simulate a modem by hand to get back on the BBS. Got pretty good at typing ATA commands and responses by hand! :D
So are you saying you managed to reboot your PC without disconnecting
Couldn't you have just switched users by running RA as a regular door ? that way you wouldn't need to worry about DCD.
Good question, would that work?
Dran Draggore wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: mt32 issue
By: Tony Langdon to Dran Draggore on Fri Apr 15 2016 07:41 pm
Couldn't you have just switched users by running RA as a regular door ? that way you wouldn't need to worry about DCD.
Good question, would that work?
I think so. It would involve exiting RA like a door with an external errorlevel and looping back to "RA.EXE -b<baud> -n<node>". The NODE* directory might need to be cleaned.
I think so. It would involve exiting RA like a door with an external errorlevel and looping back to "RA.EXE -b<baud> -n<node>". The NODE* directory might need to be cleaned.
I used a custom errorlevel to reload RA from the main .bat file.
Dran Draggore wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Yeah. I don't think the "-E<errorlevel>" option matters when you do it
as an external Door exit. I am still reading "RA.DOC" so I'm not sure
what the menu type is.
Not sure why people bothered with anything else. There was one time I got desperate and used HyperTerminal. I just looked, and some guy's trying to flog it for $64.99 - O_o.
and these old guys (not one was under 50, which was old to me at the time) weren't really interested in anything new or different from what they were used to.
Yep, I liked them all, and each had its own strengths. Probaby used Telix the most of the 3, but was particularly fond of Terminate, if I recall. Installing Telix in DOSBox is on my "things to tinker with" list. :D
Telix was a solid comms program, rarely went wrong with it.
Poindexter Fortran wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Sitting in a dark room illuminated by a desk lamp. Late at night, everyone's asleep. Watching a dialing queue and hearing the modem
dialing, getting a busy, and repeating. Then hearing that Telix connect tone...
Poindexter Fortran wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: mt32 issue
By: Tony Langdon to Dran Draggore on Thu Apr 14 2016 10:02 pm
Telix was a solid comms program, rarely went wrong with it.
I loved it, the only reason I kept another program around was that I
was a telecom manager at the time and needed to dial into my systems
with a good, solid, complete VT102 emulation. Procomm Plus was the only app that supported all of the function keys on the VT102.
By: Dran Draggore to Nightfox on Fri Apr 08 2016 02:04 am
are using to submit their BBS to SyncTerm for this purpose?
Ok I see your point.
Perhaps spam is a better word.
it's also missing the best bbs currently avaliable.
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