• SBBSEcho and NetMail Routing?

    From Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHEVN to All on Monday, September 21, 2015 15:11:20
    I've been testing SBBSecho at another level, trying to determine if it's capable of this like I'd hope it to be.

    I'm acting NC for FidoNet for my network now, and as a result, I'm also the middle man for handling netmail routing.

    I had one of my downlinks send a netmail to a PING endpoint I know works, and what results I saw was very disturbing.

    SBBSecho gets the netmail, and exports it to my netmail directory. That's it. It doesn't try to route it or send it to my uplink as I would hope for it to do. It just sits there in my netmail directory as a raw *.msg file.

    Why would it do this, and why will it not pass it on? Is it expected that some other tosser be required to be configured in order to get things like this to route?

    I'm wondering because I notice it didn't try to import it to Synchronet, because the address is not mine, but it did export it at the least, it just didn't and won't seem to export it out the next route-hop.

    The way I'm calling sbbsecho on inbound packets is:

    sbbsecho -lesrfd!
    htick toss scan ffix
    sbbsecho -linefs

    Furthermore, it's possible that sbbsecho may be rewriting the netmail it exports? I'm confirming with the sender of it to validate this, but they were asked to send a netmail to PING@1:3634/12 (Mark Lewis's system, which I know works well with PING), but looking at the netmail message it exported, using GoldEd+, I see the To address is mine, 1:135/371. Again, I'm double-checking if they sent it to me or to the correct adress or not. :)

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Psi-Jack on Monday, September 21, 2015 17:33:17
    Re: SBBSEcho and NetMail Routing?
    By: Psi-Jack to All on Mon Sep 21 2015 03:11 pm

    I've been testing SBBSecho at another level, trying to determine if it's capable of this like I'd hope it to be.

    Okay. Any feedback on the last set of changes you requested (in regards to the file request/.req file stuff)?

    I'm acting NC for FidoNet for my network now, and as a result, I'm also the middle man for handling netmail routing.

    I had one of my downlinks send a netmail to a PING endpoint I know works, and what results I saw was very disturbing.

    SBBSecho gets the netmail, and exports it to my netmail directory. That's it. It doesn't try to route it or send it to my uplink as I would hope for it to do. It just sits there in my netmail directory as a raw *.msg file.

    The .msg file phase is required for all received netmail, even netmail destined for other nodes.

    Why would it do this, and why will it not pass it on?

    An export run with the 'F' command-line option should have SBBSecho then export the .msg to an outbound packet for the destination node.

    Is it expected that
    some other tosser be required to be configured in order to get things like this to route?

    No, but is expected that a second run of SBBSecho is required to get the netmail routed to a new outbound packet for the destination node (or route hop).

    I'm wondering because I notice it didn't try to import it to Synchronet, because the address is not mine, but it did export it at the least, it just didn't and won't seem to export it out the next route-hop.

    What does SBBSecho display when the export command-line is run and the .msg file(s) in question are processed?

    The way I'm calling sbbsecho on inbound packets is:

    sbbsecho -lesrfd!
    htick toss scan ffix
    sbbsecho -linefs

    Furthermore, it's possible that sbbsecho may be rewriting the netmail it exports?

    I'm not really sure what you're asking. SBBSecho doesn't actually export netmail. It can packetize netmail (from .msg to .pkt format), and by definition, that is "rewriting the netmail". If the netmail is to be routed, then the packet header may contain a different destination address than the "packed message" header.

    I'm confirming with the sender of it to validate this, but they
    were asked to send a netmail to PING@1:3634/12 (Mark Lewis's system, which I know works well with PING), but looking at the netmail message it exported, using GoldEd+, I see the To address is mine, 1:135/371. Again, I'm double-checking if they sent it to me or to the correct adress or not. :)

    There certainly could be a bug or two somewhere, but without more details (e.g. display or log output pointing out exactly what the problem is), I can't really determine that.

    digital man

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  • From Lord Time@VERT/TIME to Psi-Jack on Monday, September 21, 2015 18:15:00
    In a reply from Psi-Jack on 15:11 about SBBSEcho and NetMail Rout

    I've been testing SBBSecho at another level, trying to determine if it's capable of this like I'd hope it to be.

    I'm acting NC for FidoNet for my network now, and as a result, I'm also the middle man for handling netmail routing.

    I had one of my downlinks send a netmail to a PING endpoint I know works, and what results I saw was very disturbing.

    SBBSecho gets the netmail, and exports it to my netmail directory. That's it. It doesn't try to route it or send it to my uplink as I would hope for it to do. It just sits there in my netmail directory as a raw *.msg file.

    I don't use the sbbs netmail dir. or my ftn netmail, it goes to the right outbound dir. for each zone

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  • From Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHEVN to Digital Man on Tuesday, September 22, 2015 09:02:47
    Re: SBBSEcho and NetMail Routing?
    By: Digital Man to Psi-Jack on Mon Sep 21 2015 05:33 pm

    Re: SBBSEcho and NetMail Routing?
    By: Psi-Jack to All on Mon Sep 21 2015 03:11 pm

    I've been testing SBBSecho at another level, trying to determine if
    it's capable of this like I'd hope it to be.

    Okay. Any feedback on the last set of changes you requested (in regards to the file request/.req file stuff)?

    Sorry, been delayed with trying to get things up and running, life, and everything, but I'm working towards it. For me to cvs up from where I am now, I have to do a bit of massaging I think, it's near the top of my list though, along with RPMizing the synchronet build so I can do these, in the future, far more easily.

    I'm acting NC for FidoNet for my network now, and as a result, I'm
    also the middle man for handling netmail routing.

    I had one of my downlinks send a netmail to a PING endpoint I know
    works, and what results I saw was very disturbing.

    SBBSecho gets the netmail, and exports it to my netmail directory.
    That's it. It doesn't try to route it or send it to my uplink as I
    would hope for it to do. It just sits there in my netmail directory as
    a raw *.msg file.

    The .msg file phase is required for all received netmail, even netmail destined for other nodes.

    Hmm, I see.

    Why would it do this, and why will it not pass it on?

    An export run with the 'F' command-line option should have SBBSecho then export the .msg to an outbound packet for the destination node.

    So, in a sense, kind of what I am already doing in the below mentioned commands, running sbbsecho twice in the same toss run.

    Is it expected that
    some other tosser be required to be configured in order to get things
    like this to route?

    No, but is expected that a second run of SBBSecho is required to get the netmail routed to a new outbound packet for the destination node (or route hop).

    I'm wondering because I notice it didn't try to import it to
    Synchronet, because the address is not mine, but it did export it at
    the least, it just didn't and won't seem to export it out the next
    route-hop.

    What does SBBSecho display when the export command-line is run and the .msg file(s) in question are processed?

    The way I'm calling sbbsecho on inbound packets is:

    sbbsecho -lesrfd!
    htick toss scan ffix
    sbbsecho -linefs

    Furthermore, it's possible that sbbsecho may be rewriting the netmail
    it exports?

    I'm not really sure what you're asking. SBBSecho doesn't actually export netmail. It can packetize netmail (from .msg to .pkt format), and by definition, that is "rewriting the netmail". If the netmail is to be routed, then the packet header may contain a different destination address than the "packed message" header.

    I'm confirming with the sender of it to validate this, but they
    were asked to send a netmail to PING@1:3634/12 (Mark Lewis's system,
    which I know works well with PING), but looking at the netmail message
    it exported, using GoldEd+, I see the To address is mine, 1:135/371.
    Again, I'm double-checking if they sent it to me or to the correct
    adress or not. :)

    There certainly could be a bug or two somewhere, but without more details (e.g. display or log output pointing out exactly what the problem is), I can't really determine that.

    Sorry, what I determined after writing was that the downlink sent a netmail to both my address and to the address I asked him to do, but the one destined to the address with PING support was not routed appropriately. I'm guessing scfg->Networks->FidoNet settings might be using Crash, like my previous mistake before. heh heh..

    I had thought originally his netmail was sent to the address, (not to me specifically), and just rewritten as if it was written to me, but instead, he actually did in fact write to both me and to the other address, just for him, it got packed to deliver directly to the address, instead of routed like it should've..

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  • From Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHEVN to Lord Time on Tuesday, September 22, 2015 09:03:57
    Re: SBBSEcho and NetMail Rout
    By: Lord Time to Psi-Jack on Mon Sep 21 2015 06:15 pm

    In a reply from Psi-Jack on 15:11 about SBBSEcho and NetMail Rout

    I've been testing SBBSecho at another level, trying to determine if
    it's capable of this like I'd hope it to be.

    I'm acting NC for FidoNet for my network now, and as a result, I'm
    also the middle man for handling netmail routing.

    I had one of my downlinks send a netmail to a PING endpoint I know
    works, and what results I saw was very disturbing.

    SBBSecho gets the netmail, and exports it to my netmail directory.
    That's it. It doesn't try to route it or send it to my uplink as I
    would hope for it to do. It just sits there in my netmail directory
    as a raw *.msg file.

    I don't use the sbbs netmail dir. or my ftn netmail, it goes to the right outbound dir. for each zone

    What? SBBSecho doesn't support 5D, only 4D.

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  • From Lord Time@VERT/TIME to Psi-Jack on Wednesday, September 23, 2015 18:31:00
    In a reply from Psi-Jack on 09:03 about SBBSEcho and NetMail Rout

    I've been testing SBBSecho at another level, trying to determine if
    it's capable of this like I'd hope it to be.

    I'm acting NC for FidoNet for my network now, and as a result, I'm
    also the middle man for handling netmail routing.

    I had one of my downlinks send a netmail to a PING endpoint I know
    works, and what results I saw was very disturbing.

    SBBSecho gets the netmail, and exports it to my netmail directory.
    That's it. It doesn't try to route it or send it to my uplink as I
    would hope for it to do. It just sits there in my netmail directory
    as a raw *.msg file.

    I don't use the sbbs netmail dir. or my ftn netmail, it goes to the right outbound dir. for each zone

    What? SBBSecho doesn't support 5D, only 4D.

    DM will have to answer that, but that was the same problem I had years ago,
    so I gave up on it

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