Part of this is the nightly auto-verification performed by vert.synchro.net. It used to just verify a telnet connection (and confirm Synchronet was being used), SMTP and Finger TCP connections. Now, it 'll confirm RLogin as well as Telnet and capture the login sequence to display as a "preview" for prospective users. See http://synchro.net/sbbslist.html to see what I'm talking about. I'm no HTML/CSS expert, so that kind of work is tedious for me, but it's been fun and educational too.
- the instant-message module ('I' from the Chat: menu) should become useful again in the near future
- no changes for any sysops right now (no need to use any of the sbblist*.js files you might notice are being added/modified in CVS lately), I'll let you know when it's ready for prime time
near future - no changes for any sysops right now (no need to use any
of the sbblist*.js files you might notice are being added/modified in
CVS lately), I'll let you know when it's ready for prime time
Part of this is the nightly auto-verification performed by vert.synchro.net. It used to just verify a telnet connection (and confirm Synchronet was being used), SMTP and Finger TCP connections. Now, it 'll confirm RLogin as well as Telnet and capture the login sequence to display as a "preview" for prospective users. See http://synchro.net/sbbslist.html to see what I'm talking about. I'm no HTML/CSS expert, so that kind of work is tedious for me, but it's been fun and educational too.
The updated BBS list HTML page looks pretty cool. I like the idea of showing a telnet login screen capture with each BBS. Though I'm wondering if some might still prefer the older format as a "condensed form", since it had less to scroll through.
- the instant-message module ('I' from the Chat: menu) should become useful again in the near future
I think that will be interesting. I thought that was pretty cool when I first looked into it.
- no changes for any sysops right now (no need to use any of the sbblist*.js files you might notice are being added/modified in CVS lately), I'll let you know when it's ready for prime time
When it's ready, will it require sysops to update their Synchronet binaries as well as .js files, or just the .js files?
Hello Digital,
On 11 Sep 15 15:34, Digital Man wrote to All:
near future - no changes for any sysops right now (no need to use any of the sbblist*.js files you might notice are being added/modified in CVS lately), I'll let you know when it's ready for prime time
I've been upgrading via CVS for the past I don't know how many years now. So as
you and I have found in the past, I was using some pretty old stock stuff (stuff that I don't really utilize much, but when I finally do.. I notice it's old as all hell).
Anyway, At some point, when 3.17 is at a stable point, and maybe you release a new binary/executable thing-a-ma-bobber. I would like to try that and migrate most, if not all of my stuff over. I'll most likely need instructions on how to
do that safely and without screwing up that new version (ie: if I copy over my entire data, ctrl, mods, or any other directory that is usually moved over, I don't want to have something like that screw me out of the new features).
My mods directory contains a bunch of .js files that come stock in Synchronet too, so that's where my main problem may lie. So as long as you may be willing to go over it all with me one day, I'd really like to jump into the new stuff without wrecking the old. If I have to give up a few things, so be it, but there may be a couple things that I'm iffy about. :)
Now the technical bits:>
- everything (SBL-related) is now written in JavaScript, previous SBL stuff was all written in C
- the SyncData messages will be backward-compatible with older/existing versions of SBL
- the local data store will be JSON (with no intrinsic limitations), meaning it should be trivial for other developers to write tools to deal with the data or enhance the object model as needed
- the instant-message module ('I' from the Chat: menu) should become useful again in the near future
digital man
Now the technical bits:
- everything (SBL-related) is now written in JavaScript, previous SBL stuff was all written in C
- the SyncData messages will be backward-compatible with older/existing versions of SBL
- the local data store will be JSON (with no intrinsic limitations), meaning it should be trivial for other developers to write tools to deal with the data or enhance the object model as needed
- the instant-message module ('I' from the Chat: menu) should become useful again in the near future
I think it is a good idea that you're focusing on the BBS List. It would be nice if the door would auto-generate an html (or something similar) in the /web/root directory and the BBS list could blend in with CSS or at least be easy customize the colors to blend in with a website theme.
The BBS list is an important feature. It's like the "Main Street" with the BBS's being the small towns or houses :). The BBS list helps advertise our boards (using the 100's of other boards) without having to rely solely on search engines and/or banners.
An auto-updating, well thought-out and nicely designed BBS list for SynchroNET would help bring more people to the product. And would be another step into modernizing BBS's.
Now, it 'll confirm RLogin as well as Telnet and capture the login sequence to display as a "preview" for prospective users. See http://synchro.net/sbbslist.html to see what I'm talking about. I'm no HTML/CSS expert, so that kind of work is tedious for me, but it's been fun and educational too.
The updated BBS list HTML page looks pretty cool. I like the idea of showing a telnet login screen capture with each BBS. Though I'm wondering if some might still prefer the older format as a "condensed form", since it had less to scroll through.
The BBS list is an important feature. It's like the "Main Street" with the BBS's being the small towns or houses :). The BBS list helps advertise our boards (using the 100's of other boards) without having to rely solely on search engines and/or banners.
confirm RLogin as well as Telnet and capture the login sequence to display as a "preview" for prospective users. See http://synchro.net/sbbslist.html to see what I'm talking about.
For other (non-SBL) related stuff, it'd be a case by case as to what you might be missing by not taking what's in CVS or at least merging in the changes.
The SBL update will come with instructions. If you haven't modified
your sbbsimsg.js, you should be fine (that's the only pre-existing JS component that related to the new SBL v4).
For other (non-SBL) related stuff, it'd be a case by case as to what
you might be missing by not taking what's in CVS or at least merging
in the changes.
Re: Synchronet BBS List v4
By: Digital Man to All on Fri Sep 11 2015 03:34 pm
confirm RLogin as well as Telnet and capture the login sequence to display as a "preview" for prospective users. See http://synchro.net/sbbslist.html to see what I'm talking about.
Very cool - I bet this compels people to mod their login pages if they haven't already... :)
That is a great looking app.
Where/when/will it be available for everyone's use?
yeah, but people have to KNOW about the bbs list first.
that's why banners and search engines are useful.
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I'm working on it. :-)
digital man
I know banners and search engines are useful. But, for instance, if you do
a google search for "Synchronet BBS list" right now, generally only 1 list will come up which is: http://synchro.net/sbbslist.html
It would be better if the BBS list was pre-configured, or at least, easy to turn on, with the initial Synchronet installation packages as it already is with the "external program" text door side.
If each BBS hosted a copy of the BBS list, instead of the Synchronet BBS list showing once in a google search, it would show 150+ times. Also, the
A shared networked BBS list is probably 2nd to only networked message bases in importance to keeping BBS's alive and relevant looking forward.
Also, the internet was built on "links" before "search engines" and who
says search engines are better? I would prefer information to come to me "like networked message bases and networked file areas" rather than me
have to search for what I need. And this is the major flaw with current
And this is the major flaw with current
internetworking. You figure out how to leverage that idea and you will be
a rich man.
I'm working on it. :-)
digital man
The new list looks awesome btw!)
Also, the internet was built on "links" before "search engines" and who says search engines are better? I would prefer information to come to me "like networked message bases and networked file areas" rather than me have to search for what I need. And this is the major flaw with current internetworking. You figure out how to leverage that idea and you will be a rich man.
Search engines do however fill a much-needed space when there's something specific in mind that you want to actively seek out. I remember combing through web "directory" type sites in the early to mid 90s, browsing categorized lists of links to other sites. It was fine if you were just looking for something topical to read, not so great if you were hunting down a particular bit of info.
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I agree about search engines filling a much needed space. They are very useful. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it would be nice to not have to rely solely on the big search engines who get to control the info.
I cleaned out my dad's office space when he passed away this year. He'd retired in 1994, and I put together a PC for him. He'd spent all of his
time working on computers and never enjoyed them until he'd gotten a PC - and now he was like we all were when we first got them -- making budget
Back then, you didn't have search engines. You had a paperback directory of web sites...
I cleaned out his bookcase and found some relics from the old days - Van Wolvertons Running/Supercharging MSDOS (books I now have in my bookcase, great books for undeerstanding and writing batch files)
and the capper was the book "What's NEW! on the internet, 1996 edition. Backthen, you didn't have search engines. You had a paperback directory of web sites...
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