• No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?

    From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to All on Sunday, August 23, 2015 07:19:31
    Subject: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
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    I just upgraded everything to 3.17 from the pre-made builds and noticed that the Events window in sbbsctrl doesn't show results when you do an FTP upload of a QWK .REP packet.

    Is this expected behavior?

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Poindexter Fortran on Monday, August 24, 2015 16:50:23
    Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Poindexter Fortran to All on Sun Aug 23 2015 07:19 am

    Subject: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
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    I just upgraded everything to 3.17 from the pre-made builds and noticed that the Events window in sbbsctrl doesn't show results when you do an FTP upload of a QWK .REP packet.

    Is this expected behavior?

    A lot of things are broken currently in the code in CVS (currently reported as v3.17a), especially for Windows, so I wouldn't recommend "upgrading" to it.

    digital man

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  • From Deuce@VERT/SYNCNIX to Poindexter Fortran on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 00:03:40
    Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Poindexter Fortran to All on Sun Aug 23 2015 07:19 am

    Subject: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
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    What are these doing here, do you know?

    I just upgraded everything to 3.17 from the pre-made builds and noticed that the Events window in sbbsctrl doesn't show results when you do an FTP upload of a QWK .REP packet.

    Do you mean your BBS uploading a DOVE-Net REP packet to vert or a user uploading a QWK .REP packet to your BBS?

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Digital Man on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 05:39:34
    Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Digital Man to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Aug 24 2015 04:50 pm

    A lot of things are broken currently in the code in CVS (currently reported as v3.17a), especially for Windows, so I wouldn't recommend "upgrading" to it.

    I have a backup of my 3.16 install. Would the bugs merit going back or might it be worth it to grin and bear it and do another CVS install in a while?

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Deuce on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:48:06
    Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Deuce to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Aug 25 2015 12:03 am

    Do you mean your BBS uploading a DOVE-Net REP packet to vert or a user uploading a QWK .REP packet to your BBS?

    A user uploading a packet. I do most of my BBSing via QWK, and would watch the upload to see if I'd forgotten to delete a .REP packet.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Poindexter Fortran on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 13:35:27
    Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Digital Man on Tue Aug 25 2015 05:39 am

    Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Digital Man to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Aug 24 2015 04:50 pm

    A lot of things are broken currently in the code in CVS (currently reported as v3.17a), especially for Windows, so I wouldn't recommend "upgrading" to it.

    I have a backup of my 3.16 install. Would the bugs merit going back or might it be worth it to grin and bear it and do another CVS install in a while?

    I guess that's up to you. I'm currently only running v3.17 on *one* of my instances of Synchronet (the other 2 are still running v3.16) cause it's crashing pretty much daily right now. If you don't mind the crashes or missing features or are wanting to help detect and solve bugs, then please run the development code!

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Poindexter Fortran on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 13:36:22
    Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Deuce on Tue Aug 25 2015 10:48 am

    Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Deuce to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Aug 25 2015 12:03 am

    Do you mean your BBS uploading a DOVE-Net REP packet to vert or a user uploading a QWK .REP packet to your BBS?

    A user uploading a packet. I do most of my BBSing via QWK, and would watch the upload to see if I'd forgotten to delete a .REP packet.

    I can't think of any reason why there'd be a change in this behavior in the current code base.

    digital man

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Digital Man on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 14:22:06
    Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Digital Man to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Aug 25 2015 01:35 pm

    I guess that's up to you. I'm currently only running v3.17 on *one* of my instances of Synchronet (the other 2 are still running v3.16) cause it's crashing pretty much daily right now. If you don't mind the crashes or missing features or are wanting to help detect and solve bugs, then please run the development code!

    I haven't crashed once (knocks on wood), so unless something seriously breaks, I'll stick with 3.17 and wait for the bug fixes to keep up.

    3.17 broke my web server (I was running the older ecweb v2 and some of the init code changed on the server) so I'm working on moving my stylesheet over to V3. If I stick to 3.17 I can keep working on it.

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  • From Deuce@VERT/SYNCNIX to Poindexter Fortran on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 18:57:27
    Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Digital Man on Tue Aug 25 2015 05:39 am

    A lot of things are broken currently in the code in CVS (currently reported as v3.17a), especially for Windows, so I wouldn't recommend "upgrading" to it.

    I have a backup of my 3.16 install. Would the bugs merit going back or might it be worth it to grin and bear it and do another CVS install in a while?

    If you're happy reporting crashes and helping improve the next version, by all means, run 3.17. Be prepared to update regularly though since bugs are being found and fixed every day or two.

    If you want something you can leave alone and expect to keep working without you putting extra effort in, use the latest release.

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  • From KenDB3@VERT/KD3NET to Deuce on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 23:05:47
    If you're happy reporting crashes and helping improve the next version, by all means, run 3.17. Be prepared to update regularly though since bugs are being found and fixed every day or two.

    If you want something you can leave alone and expect to keep working without you putting extra effort in, use the latest release.

    Deuce, I am also running the new 3.17 (on WinXP), and I think I can deal with some crashes and general buggy-ness. What can I do to help? How can I report crashes and such? What kind of info would you like?

    On the plus side, I have seen crashes with 3.17 but the BBS is still chugging along and running until I acknowledge the crash and hit the "send" or "don't send" on the crash report. Once I touch one of those buttons, it all evaporates.

    ~KenDB3

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to KenDB3 on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 22:30:03
    Re: Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: KenDB3 to Deuce on Tue Aug 25 2015 11:05 pm

    If you're happy reporting crashes and helping improve the next version, by all means, run 3.17. Be prepared to update regularly though since bugs are being found and fixed every day or two.

    If you want something you can leave alone and expect to keep working without you putting extra effort in, use the latest release.

    Deuce, I am also running the new 3.17 (on WinXP), and I think I can deal with some crashes and general buggy-ness. What can I do to help? How can I report crashes and such? What kind of info would you like?

    A debug stack trace would be the most helpful. Unfortunately, you need to use MSVC2013 to build the latest Synchronet for Windows and I don't think it'll run on WinXP. So if you have another Win7+ computer you can run MSVC on, you can download Visual Studio/C++ Express edition (12.0/2013) and build a debug version of the DLLs and run those with the sbbsctrl.exe from the sbbs-dev.zip. Then if it crashes, you should be able to capture a stack trace and provide it to us.

    On the plus side, I have seen crashes with 3.17 but the BBS is still chugging along and running until I acknowledge the crash and hit the "send" or "don't send" on the crash report. Once I touch one of those buttons, it all evaporates.

    The thread that crashed has stopped. That sometimes will stop that particular server or service or node or sometimes the entire process, it depends on where exactly the crash occurred and what kind of crash.

    digital man

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  • From Deuce@VERT/SYNCNIX to KenDB3 on Wednesday, August 26, 2015 03:16:53
    Re: Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: KenDB3 to Deuce on Tue Aug 25 2015 11:05 pm

    Deuce, I am also running the new 3.17 (on WinXP), and I think I can deal with some crashes and general buggy-ness. What can I do to help? How can I report crashes and such? What kind of info would you like?

    This wiki article covers how to report issues. If you follow it, you'll be doing well: http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:support

    If it turns out that article isn't complete enough, we'll update it as needed. For Windows development builds, there may be Windows-specific things that can help out. Digital Man is the Windows guy, so I'll let him flesh it out if there's a way to get "good" info vs. "bad" info.

    On the plus side, I have seen crashes with 3.17 but the BBS is still chugging along and running until I acknowledge the crash and hit the "send" or "don't send" on the crash report. Once I touch one of those buttons, it all evaporates.

    Most likely, the service that caused the crash has stopped working in this case (FTP, HTTP, Terminal Server, etc). You do want to hit that button as soon as possible (after collecting as much information as possible).

    I'm not sure if/how we can access crash data submitted to Microsoft. I suspect we can't, but I'll defer to Digital Man on this one.

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  • From Coz@VERT/CEBBS to Deuce on Thursday, August 27, 2015 16:29:19
    Re: Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Deuce to KenDB3 on Wed Aug 26 2015 03:16 am

    If it turns out that article isn't complete enough, we'll update it as needed. For Windows development builds, there may be Windows-specific things that can help out. Digital Man is the Windows guy, so I'll let him flesh it out if there's a way to get "good" info vs. "bad" info.

    Hi Deuce,

    Is there a way to build the "stable" 3.16 version on Linux? I'm just following the install directions for Linux to build - I'm assuming this is a snapshot of current development code?

    Thanks,
    Chris

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Coz on Thursday, August 27, 2015 14:41:21
    Re: Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Coz to Deuce on Thu Aug 27 2015 04:29 pm

    Re: Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Deuce to KenDB3 on Wed Aug 26 2015 03:16 am

    If it turns out that article isn't complete enough, we'll update it as needed. For Windows development builds, there may be Windows-specific things that can help out. Digital Man is the Windows guy, so I'll let him flesh it out if there's a way to get "good" info vs. "bad" info.

    Hi Deuce,

    Is there a way to build the "stable" 3.16 version on Linux? I'm just following the install directions for Linux to build - I'm assuming this is a snapshot of current development code?

    There are 2 ways:
    Add "-r sbbs316c" to the CVS checkout command-lines or "CVSTAG=sbbs316c" to the GNU make or gmake command-line.
    Or download the v3.16c source archive (ftp://vert.synchro.net/Synchronet/ssrc316c.tgz) and build from that.

    digital man

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  • From Deuce@VERT/SYNCNIX to Coz on Thursday, August 27, 2015 16:48:25
    Re: Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Coz to Deuce on Thu Aug 27 2015 04:29 pm

    Is there a way to build the "stable" 3.16 version on Linux? I'm just following the install directions for Linux to build - I'm assuming this is a snapshot of current development code?

    To use 3.16c via the "wget GNUmakefile" method, add the parameter: CVSTAG=sbbs316c

    To the end of the make command-line... so something like this:

    gmake install SYMLINK=1 CVSTAG=sbbs316c


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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Deuce on Wednesday, August 26, 2015 09:35:00
    Deuce wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    If you want something you can leave alone and expect to keep working without you putting extra effort in, use the latest release.

    If I wanted that, I wouldn't run a BBS! :)

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  • From KenDB3@VERT/KD3NET to Digital Man on Saturday, February 06, 2106 22:28:15
    Re: Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Digital Man to KenDB3 on Tue Aug 25 2015 10:30 pm

    Re: Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: KenDB3 to Deuce on Tue Aug 25 2015 11:05 pm

    If you're happy reporting crashes and helping improve the next
    version, by all means, run 3.17. Be prepared to update regularly

    Deuce, I am also running the new 3.17 (on WinXP), and I think I can
    deal with some crashes and general buggy-ness. What can I do to help?

    A debug stack trace would be the most helpful. Unfortunately, you need to use MSVC2013 to build the latest Synchronet for Windows and I don't think it'll run on WinXP. So if you have another Win7+ computer you can run MSVC on, you can download Visual Studio/C++ Express edition (12.0/2013) and build a debug version of the DLLs and run those with the sbbsctrl.exe from the sbbs-dev.zip. Then if it crashes, you should be able to capture a stack trace and provide it to us.

    DM, thanks for the response. I tried to revive a dead Win7 machine, but no luck. Pretty sure the MoBo or CPU is toast. So, still have to run WinXP for now. If I run into issues, I'll be sure to gather what I can for you and Deuce. In the mean time, I have a regulary scheduled backup that I do of the whole BBS monthly. If anything goes terrbily wrong, I should be in good shape. I will probably update less often but will still try to catch up occassionally. (Mostly so upgrades aren't so involved if I wait for too long)

    Speaking of regularly scheduled events... I run my backup from a batch file, it uses robocopy and 7zip, which works well. But when I tried to set it up as an event in SBBS, I tried to set it up to run the First Monday of every month. Which isn't really an option. So I tried to see if I could do some mutual exclusions based on the options available. Short story, it didn't work, but would it be possible to get something like this? Here is what I tried to do to see if it would only run the first Monday of the month:

    Execution Months: Any
    Execution Days of the Month: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
    Execution Days of the Week: Mon

    So, instead of limiting it to just Monday the 1st or Monday the 2nd, etc, it runs on the 1st, the 2nd, etc....

    My solution was to use another scheduling program and taskill SBBS. But, an option to stack requirements to limit a timed event would be cool.

    ~KenDB3

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to KenDB3 on Wednesday, September 02, 2015 19:08:08
    Re: Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: KenDB3 to Digital Man on Invalid Time

    Speaking of regularly scheduled events... I run my backup from a batch file, it uses robocopy and 7zip, which works well. But when I tried to set it up as an event in SBBS, I tried to set it up to run the First Monday of every month. Which isn't really an option. So I tried to see if I could do some mutual exclusions based on the options available. Short story, it didn't work, but would it be possible to get something like this? Here is what I tried to do to see if it would only run the first Monday of the month:

    Execution Months: Any
    Execution Days of the Month: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
    Execution Days of the Week: Mon

    So, instead of limiting it to just Monday the 1st or Monday the 2nd, etc, it runs on the 1st, the 2nd, etc....

    My solution was to use another scheduling program and taskill SBBS. But, an option to stack requirements to limit a timed event would be cool.

    Those requirements (months, days of month, days of week) are logically "AND"ed together, so in your example above, the event should only run on a Monday (with a day-of-month value of 1-7). Here's the actual code and I know it's a bit hard to read but I don't see anything wrong with it:

    if(sbbs->cfg.event[i]->last==-1 ||
    (((sbbs->cfg.event[i]->freq
    && (now-sbbs->cfg.event[i]->last)/60>=sbbs->cfg.event[i]->freq)
    || (!sbbs->cfg.event[i]->freq
    && (now_tm.tm_hour*60)+now_tm.tm_min>=sbbs->cfg.event[i]->time
    && (now_tm.tm_mday!=tm.tm_mday || now_tm.tm_mon!=tm.tm_mon)))
    && sbbs->cfg.event[i]->days&(1<<now_tm.tm_wday)
    && (sbbs->cfg.event[i]->mdays==0
    || sbbs->cfg.event[i]->mdays&(1<<now_tm.tm_mday))
    && (sbbs->cfg.event[i]->months==0
    || sbbs->cfg.event[i]->months&(1<<now_tm.tm_mon))))

    The "last==-1" check is just a check to see if the event was forced. Otherwise, it will only run if the configured conditions are met (frequency, time, day of week, day of month, and month). And *all* the conditions that are not set to "any/all", indicated mostly with "==0" above, must be "true" for the event to execute. I guess I could setup a test case and see if I can reproduce the problem you're reporting.

    digital man

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  • From KenDB3@VERT/KD3NET to Digital Man on Wednesday, September 02, 2015 23:06:40
    Re: Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Digital Man to KenDB3 on Wed Sep 02 2015 07:08 pm

    Those requirements (months, days of month, days of week) are logically "AND"ed together, so in your example above, the event should only run on a Monday (with a day-of-month value of 1-7). Here's the actual code and I know it's a bit hard to read but I don't see anything wrong with it:

    if(sbbs->cfg.event[i]->last==-1 ||
    (((sbbs->cfg.event[i]->freq
    &&
    (now-sbbs->cfg.event[i]->last)/60>=sbbs->cfg.event[i]->freq)
    || (!sbbs->cfg.event[i]->freq
    &&
    (now_tm.tm_hour*60)+now_tm.tm_min>=sbbs->cfg.event[i]->time
    && (now_tm.tm_mday!=tm.tm_mday ||
    now_tm.tm_mon!=tm.tm_mon)))
    && sbbs->cfg.event[i]->days&(1<<now_tm.tm_wday)
    && (sbbs->cfg.event[i]->mdays==0
    ||
    sbbs->cfg.event[i]->mdays&(1<<now_tm.tm_mday))
    && (sbbs->cfg.event[i]->months==0
    ||
    sbbs->cfg.event[i]->months&(1<<now_tm.tm_mon))))

    The "last==-1" check is just a check to see if the event was forced. Otherwise, it will only run if the configured conditions are met (frequency, time, day of week, day of month, and month). And *all* the conditions that are not set to "any/all", indicated mostly with "==0" above, must be "true" for the event to execute. I guess I could setup a test case and see if I can reproduce the problem you're reporting.

    I'll see if I can check it out too. I noticed after I set it up, I got the notification that my time was reduced for that whole week. BUT I just realized I didn't see the message today (and wasn't looking for it yesterday).

    So I wonder if it was an odd fluke that changed for me with one of the more recent updates. I'll retest as well. I don't kick off the backup batch from SBBS, but I kick off another batch file from SBBS first that simply knocks everyone offline for a minute preceding the backup.

    Apologies if this all turned out to be crazy talk o.O

    ~KenDB3

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  • From KenDB3@VERT/KD3NET to KenDB3 on Thursday, September 03, 2015 22:29:10
    Re: Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Digital Man to KenDB3 on Wed Sep 02 2015 07:08 pm

    Those requirements (months, days of month, days of week) are logically "AND"ed together, so in your example above, the event should only run on a Monday (with a day-of-month value of 1-7). Here's the actual code and I know it's a bit hard to read but I don't see anything wrong with it:
    <snip>

    The "last==-1" check is just a check to see if the event was forced. Otherwise, it will only run if the configured conditions are met (frequency, time, day of week, day of month, and month). And *all* the conditions that are not set to "any/all", indicated mostly with "==0" above, must be "true" for the event to execute. I guess I could setup a test case and see if I can reproduce the problem you're reporting.

    I'll see if I can check it out too. I noticed after I set it up, I got the notification that my time was reduced for that whole week. BUT I just realized I didn't see the message today (and wasn't looking for it yesterday).

    So I wonder if it was an odd fluke that changed for me with one of the more recent updates. I'll retest as well. I don't kick off the backup batch from SBBS, but I kick off another batch file from SBBS first that simply knocks everyone offline for a minute preceding the backup.

    Apologies if this all turned out to be crazy talk o.O

    ~KenDB3

    I am totally not seeing the behavior anymore, and have no idea what caused me to see it before. Sorry, I really thought I knew what I was talking about there for a minute, lol.

    Thanks for the clarification though, because that is exactly how I was expecting the functionality to work.

    ~KenDB3

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to KenDB3 on Friday, September 04, 2015 01:55:11
    Re: Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: KenDB3 to KenDB3 on Thu Sep 03 2015 10:29 pm

    Re: Re: No log entries in sbbsctrl for ftp/qwk uploads?
    By: Digital Man to KenDB3 on Wed Sep 02 2015 07:08 pm

    Those requirements (months, days of month, days of week) are logically "AND"ed together, so in your example above, the event should only run on a Monday (with a day-of-month value of 1-7). Here's the actual code and I know it's a bit hard to read but I don't see anything wrong with it:
    <snip>

    The "last==-1" check is just a check to see if the event was forced. Otherwise, it will only run if the configured conditions are met (frequency, time, day of week, day of month, and month). And *all* the conditions that are not set to "any/all", indicated mostly with "==0" above, must be "true" for the event to execute. I guess I could setup a test case and see if I can reproduce the problem you're reporting.

    I'll see if I can check it out too. I noticed after I set it up, I got the notification that my time was reduced for that whole week. BUT I just realized I didn't see the message today (and wasn't looking for it yesterday).

    So I wonder if it was an odd fluke that changed for me with one of the more recent updates. I'll retest as well. I don't kick off the backup batch from SBBS, but I kick off another batch file from SBBS first that simply knocks everyone offline for a minute preceding the backup.

    Apologies if this all turned out to be crazy talk o.O

    ~KenDB3

    I am totally not seeing the behavior anymore, and have no idea what caused me to see it before. Sorry, I really thought I knew what I was talking about there for a minute, lol.

    Thanks for the clarification though, because that is exactly how I was expecting the functionality to work.

    Okay, cool. I tested it too and found it to work as you expected it to.

    digital man

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