hi i just installed zyxelnet and i can send and receive netmail with my nc no prob, however the problem him and i are having is when i try to areafix i get the error "unknown echo area" he has removed and reinstalled zyxel on my sys hisself and i have done it a couple times to no avail.

i have tried totally removing the echo area and deleting all data files related to it in sbbs\data\subs, than removing all traces of it from areas.bbs

after that i rebooted synchronet and reinstalled the echo areas, than exported em and still get the areafix error
my NC says its not showing a error on his side so its gotta be a sync setting, any ideas? cause me and him are fresh out!
on a side note fidonet and familynet work perfectly as well as all my qwk areas its just zyxelnet
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Re: areafix - error
By: daniel davis to All on Sun Jun 21 2015 12:30 pm

hi i just installed zyxelnet and i can send and receive netmail with my nc no prob, however the problem him and i are having is when i try to areafix i get the error "unknown echo area" he has removed and reinstalled zyxel on my sys hisself and i have done it a couple times to no avail.

i have tried totally removing the echo area and deleting all data files related to it in sbbs\data\subs, than removing all traces of it from areas.bbs

after that i rebooted synchronet and reinstalled the echo areas, than exported em and still get the areafix error
my NC says its not showing a error on his side so its gotta be a sync setting, any idea?

If his areafix is rejecting your request, then the problem is on *his* side. Unless you mispelled the echotag.

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Re: areafix - error
By: Digital Man to daniel davis on Sun Jun 21 2015 18:34:34

well, i think i am gonna just drop the conference we have tried installing it a couple times now to no avail with the newest zyxelnet.na file he had, i can use fido, advnet and familynet no prob its just the zyxel thats buggin things up and i dont think the headache is really worth it.
as for misspelling, all i did was a straight import than i did a areafix list request and compared the names that got exported to areas.bbs with what i got back in the list and they matched but when i try to do any other command besides list i get the unknown echo area msg back but, he still insists its not showing on his side.
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Re: areafix - error
By: daniel davis to Digital Man on Sun Jun 21 2015 11:49 pm

Re: areafix - error
By: Digital Man to daniel davis on
Sun Jun 21 2015 18:34:34

well, i think i am gonna just drop the conference we have tried installing it a couple times now to no avail with the newest zyxelnet.na file he had, i can use fido, advnet and familynet no prob its just the zyxel thats buggin things up and i dont think the headache is really worth it.

I know ZyXEL is the name of a company, but what is "zyxelnet"? Is that just an echotag or an entire network? What *exactly* are you putting in your areafix request message?

as for misspelling, all i did was a straight import than i did a areafix list request and compared the names that got exported to areas.bbs with what i got back in the list and they matched but when i try to do any other command besides list i get the unknown echo area msg back but, he still insists its not showing on his side.

Could it just be your signature or something else in the message causing the "unknown echo area" message? Try putting a tear line (---) after your request text.

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Re: areafix - error
By: Digital Man to daniel davis on Sun Jun 21 2015 21:14:53

I know ZyXEL is the name of a company, but what is "zyxelnet"? Is that just an echotag or an entire network? What *exactly* are you putting in your areafix request message?

as for misspelling, all i did was a straight import than i did a
areafix list request and compared the names that got exported to
areas.bbs with what i got back in the list and they matched but when
i try to do any other command besides list i get the unknown echo
area msg back but, he still insists its not showing on his side.

Could it just be your signature or something else in the message causing the "unknown echo area" message? Try putting a tear line (---) after your request text.

Zyxelnet is devoted to the users of Zyxel products Rob. As for his problems, the import is importing stuff that should not be there. There are remarks, and extra stuff for different regions. Remove the extraneous stuff and I think it will work.
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Re: areafix - error
By: daniel davis to Digital Man on Sun Jun 21 2015 11:49 pm

well, i think i am gonna just drop the conference we have tried installing it a couple times now to no avail with the newest zyxelnet.na file he had,
i can use fido, advnet and familynet no prob its just the zyxel thats
buggin things up and i dont think the headache is really worth it.

did you try talking to the network cordinator about the issue?
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Re: areafix - error
By: Mro to daniel davis on Mon Jun 22 2015 17:10:32

did you try talking to the network cordinator about the issue?

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22 Jun 15 12:56, you wrote to Digital Man:

as for misspelling, all i did was a straight import than i did a
areafix list request and compared the names that got exported to
areas.bbs with what i got back in the list and they matched but when
i try to do any other command besides list i get the unknown echo
area msg back but, he still insists its not showing on his side.

Could it just be your signature or something else in the message
causing the "unknown echo area" message? Try putting a tear line (---)
after your request text.

Zyxelnet is devoted to the users of Zyxel products Rob. As for his problems, the import is importing stuff that should not be there. There are remarks, and extra stuff for different regions. Remove the extraneous stuff and I think it will work.

there should be no comments in a NA file...

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Re: areafix - error
By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Mon Jun 22 2015 19:18:40

Zyxelnet is devoted to the users of Zyxel products Rob. As for his
problems, the import is importing stuff that should not be there.
There are remarks, and extra stuff for different regions. Remove
the extraneous stuff and I think it will work.

there should be no comments in a NA file...

This is part of the NA file. There is more for different zones but all the same

%;
%;#% Zone 16
% ZYX.ANNOUNCE.Z16 Zone 16 Fileannouncements
% ZYX.SYSOP's Zone 16 Sysp's Echo
% ZYX.ANNOUNCE.R##
% ZYX.SYSOP.R##
%

The main NA echos are lister normally
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On 06-22-15 21:25, Joe Delahaye wrote to mark lewis <=-

Re: areafix - error
By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Mon Jun 22 2015 19:18:40

Zyxelnet is devoted to the users of Zyxel products Rob. As for his
problems, the import is importing stuff that should not be there.
There are remarks, and extra stuff for different regions. Remove
the extraneous stuff and I think it will work.

there should be no comments in a NA file...

This is part of the NA file. There is more for different zones but all the same

%;
%;#% Zone 16
% ZYX.ANNOUNCE.Z16 Zone 16 Fileannouncements
% ZYX.SYSOP's Zone 16 Sysp's Echo
% ZYX.ANNOUNCE.R##
% ZYX.SYSOP.R##
%

The main NA echos are lister normally

In the .NA file you just showed Joe, why are the % signs before the areas?


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Re: areafix - error
By: Kostie Muirhead to Mro on Mon Jun 22 2015 05:50 pm

Re: areafix - error
By: Mro to daniel davis on Mon Jun 22 2015 17:10:32

did you try talking to the network cordinator about the issue?

He'd mentioned his conversation process with his NC in a few messages. Keep up.

gee, thanks for the update, future boy.

oh i looked and didnt see any.
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Re: areafix - error
By: Mro to Kostie Muirhead on Mon Jun 22 2015 21:37:51

gee, thanks for the update, future boy.
oh i looked and didnt see any.

No need to get so testy. If you're just getting the dove-net feed of this area, you might want to switch over to the fidonet side, as there were several messages to that end.
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22 Jun 15 21:25, you wrote to me:

there should be no comments in a NA file...

This is part of the NA file. There is more for different zones but
all the same

%;
%;#% Zone 16
% ZYX.ANNOUNCE.Z16 Zone 16 Fileannouncements
% ZYX.SYSOP's Zone 16 Sysp's Echo
% ZYX.ANNOUNCE.R##
% ZYX.SYSOP.R##
%

crap! no wonder he's having problems... that's almost RAID format as used for file distribution area lists... it is the only format i'm aware of that uses '%' as a comment indicator...

The main NA echos are lister normally

without the leading '%' characters?

it almost seems to me that the file is deisgned to be copied to another name and edited to remove all the ""fluff'n'stuff"" and then import the resulting from there... remove the '%' chars from the regional and/or zonal lines that you have access to so they are not commented out... then delete all the remaining comment lines so there's a nice clean file to work with...

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On 06-23-15 10:50, mark lewis wrote to Joe Delahaye <=-

22 Jun 15 21:25, you wrote to me:

there should be no comments in a NA file...

This is part of the NA file. There is more for different zones but
all the same

%;
%;#% Zone 16
% ZYX.ANNOUNCE.Z16 Zone 16 Fileannouncements
% ZYX.SYSOP's Zone 16 Sysp's Echo
% ZYX.ANNOUNCE.R##
% ZYX.SYSOP.R##
%

crap! no wonder he's having problems... that's almost RAID format as
used for file distribution area lists... it is the only format i'm
aware of that uses '%' as a comment indicator...

The main NA echos are lister normally

without the leading '%' characters?

it almost seems to me that the file is deisgned to be copied to another name and edited to remove all the ""fluff'n'stuff"" and then import the resulting from there... remove the '%' chars from the regional and/or zonal lines that you have access to so they are not commented out...
then delete all the remaining comment lines so there's a nice clean
file to work with...

That's exactly what I asked earlier...


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Re: areafix - error
By: Mro to daniel davis on Mon Jun 22 2015 17:10:32

yes the coordinator is as stumped as i am, my echolist matches the echoes listed on areafix from him hes installing a new .NA file tonight so we are gonna try again tomorrow see if the error persists or not
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Re: areafix - error
By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Tue Jun 23 2015 10:50:50

crap! no wonder he's having problems... that's almost RAID format as used for file distribution area lists... it is the only format i'm aware of that uses '%' as a comment indicator...

I've never seen a list like this before.

The main NA echos are lister normally

without the leading '%' characters?

Yes, The main areas not zome specific do not have the leading % characters

it almost seems to me that the file is deisgned to be copied to another name and edited to remove all the ""fluff'n'stuff"" and then import the resulting from there... remove the '%' chars from the regional and/or zonal lines that you have access to so they are not commented out... then delete all the remaining comment lines so there's a nice clean file to work with...

I would think the same
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Re: Re: areafix - error
By: Bill McGarrity to Joe Delahaye on Mon Jun 22 2015 22:13:00

This is part of the NA file. There is more for different zones but
all the same

%;
%;#% Zone 16
% ZYX.ANNOUNCE.Z16 Zone 16 Fileannouncements
% ZYX.SYSOP's Zone 16 Sysp's Echo
% ZYX.ANNOUNCE.R##
% ZYX.SYSOP.R##
%

The main NA echos are lister normally

In the .NA file you just showed Joe, why are the % signs before the areas?

More then likely supposed to be Rem statement. If you wish to in clude those optional areas, you need to remove the % signs first. If not you remove anything starting with that sign from the NA file before importing it, or you get weird stuff, as I found out on my test machine



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23 Jun 15 16:10, you wrote to me:

Re: areafix - error
By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Tue Jun 23 2015 10:50:50

crap! no wonder he's having problems... that's almost RAID format as
used for file distribution area lists... it is the only format i'm
aware of that uses '%' as a comment indicator...

I've never seen a list like this before.

like i said, it looks like RAID format for files areas... take a look at your FILEGATE.ZXX file if you pull file distribution areas from the filegate ;) there's more info in a RAID format file but %' lines are comments in that format...

The main NA echos are lister normally

without the leading '%' characters?

Yes, The main areas not zome specific do not have the leading %

characters

ok...

it almost seems to me that the file is deisgned to be copied to
another name and edited to remove all the ""fluff'n'stuff"" and then
import the resulting from there... remove the '%' chars from the
regional and/or zonal lines that you have access to so they are not
commented out... then delete all the remaining comment lines so
there's a nice clean file to work with...

I would think the same

appears to me to be the only way... i wonder if there's some documentation for zyxelnet that is missing?? something that explains this type of stuff to new members...

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Re: areafix - error
By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Tue Jun 23 2015 22:10:34

like i said, it looks like RAID format for files areas... take a look at your FILEGATE.ZXX file if you pull file distribution areas from the filegate ;) there's more info in a RAID format file but %' lines are comments in that format...

I've not seen a filegate.Zxx file. I have them here in one of the file areas, but have never really looked at them

appears to me to be the only way... i wonder if there's some documentation for zyxelnet that is missing?? something that explains this type of stuff to new members...

One would hope so. There was nothing with the .NA file that I was sent to look at and play with.
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24 Jun 15 10:41, you wrote to me:

like i said, it looks like RAID format for files areas... take a look
at your FILEGATE.ZXX file if you pull file distribution areas from
the filegate ;) there's more info in a RAID format file but %' lines
are comments in that format...

I've not seen a filegate.Zxx file. I have them here in one of the
file areas, but have never really looked at them

you should ;)

IIRC, my allfix setup uses them directly... i think it is probably the only file distribution software, other than the original RAID, that does...

appears to me to be the only way... i wonder if there's some
documentation for zyxelnet that is missing?? something that explains
this type of stuff to new members...

One would hope so. There was nothing with the .NA file that I was
sent to look at and play with.

of course not... not unless it was included in the comments at the top of the file... most likely, if there is/was anything along the lines of documentation,
it would have been in the information and signup package...

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Re: areafix - error
By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Wed Jun 24 2015 13:33:54

you should ;)

One of these days :)

IIRC, my allfix setup uses them directly... i think it is probably the only file distribution software, other than the original RAID, that does...

The only file processors I use here are both Tic processors. I have the Husky version for certain things, and the original TIC processor for others.

appears to me to be the only way... i wonder if there's some
documentation for zyxelnet that is missing?? something that
explains this type of stuff to new members...

One would hope so. There was nothing with the .NA file that I was
sent to look at and play with.

of course not... not unless it was included in the comments at the top of the file... most likely, if there is/was anything along the lines of documentation, it would have been in the information and signup package...

That is a distinct possibility <G>
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Re: areafix - error
By: daniel davis to Mro on Mon Jun 22 2015 10:17 pm

Re: areafix - error
By: Mro to daniel davis on Mon Jun 22 2015 17:10:32

yes the coordinator is as stumped as i am, my echolist matches the echoes listed on areafix from him hes installing a new .NA file tonight so we are gonna try again tomorrow see if the error persists or not

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24 Jun 15 16:23, you wrote to me:

Re: areafix - error
By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Wed Jun 24 2015 13:33:54

you should ;)

One of these days :)

it only takes 10 seconds to look at it... the next 10 minutes will be understanding it ;)

IIRC, my allfix setup uses them directly... i think it is probably the
only file distribution software, other than the original RAID, that
does...

The only file processors I use here are both Tic processors. I have the Husky version for certain things, and the original TIC processor for others.

i haven't put the husky one to work over here... i don't know what the "original TIC processor" is that you speak of... in my mind, that is RAID which
set the standard and started the whole file distribution movement...

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Re: areafix - error
By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Wed Jun 24 2015 23:22:14

i haven't put the husky one to work over here... i don't know what the "original TIC processor" is that you speak of... in my mind, that is RAID which set the standard and started the whole file distribution movement...

The original Tic processor was written by Berry Geller. It will hatch files as well.
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26 Jun 15 11:26, you wrote to me:

Re: areafix - error
By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Wed Jun 24 2015 23:22:14

i haven't put the husky one to work over here... i don't know what the
"original TIC processor" is that you speak of... in my mind, that is
RAID which set the standard and started the whole file distribution
movement...

The original Tic processor was written by Berry Geller. It will hatch files as well.

yeah, i knew that... my mind was confuging things up... i have both, tick and raid... george peace wrote raid... my binaries for both are dated 1992 ;)

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Re: areafix - error
By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Fri Jun 26 2015 15:54:06

The original Tic processor was written by Berry Geller. It will
hatch files as well.

yeah, i knew that... my mind was confuging things up... i have both, tick and raid... george peace wrote raid... my binaries for both are dated 1992 ;)

I have heard of Raid, but it took a while to tie it to file transfers, since the first thing I thought of was HD Backup <G>
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