• Delay to sbbsecho.exe -linf Execution

    From Luc Mccarragher@VERT to All on Sunday, April 26, 2015 09:39:59
    Hi synchronet users

    it's possible to delay the Fonction , sbbsecho.exe -linf
    or RUN at the end of the call automaticly
    for now it's run everytime i post a message
    i prefer SBBS to handle it and not use a .BAT to scan msgs.......




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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Luc Mccarragher on Sunday, April 26, 2015 13:41:03
    On Sun, 26 Apr 2015, Luc Mccarragher wrote to All:

    it's possible to delay the Fonction , sbbsecho.exe -linf or RUN at
    the end of the call automaticly for now it's run everytime i post
    a message i prefer SBBS to handle it and not use a .BAT to scan msgs.......

    sbbsecho is generally triggered in the event system by the presence of the semaphore FIDOOUT... disable that event or modify it to execute at a specific time... if you disable it, you might be able to run sbbsecho as a logout event... you might want to have it not run if there are other users logged in...

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  • From Luc Mccarragher@VERT to mark lewis on Sunday, April 26, 2015 16:36:13
    Re: Delay to sbbsecho.exe -linf Execution
    By: mark lewis to Luc Mccarragher on Sun Apr 26 2015 13:41:03

    sbbsecho is generally triggered in the event system by the presence of the semaphore FIDOOUT... disable that event or modify it to execute at a specific time... if you disable it, you might be able to run sbbsecho as a logout event... you might want to have it not run if there are other users logged in...

    logout Event = i will try this
    Thx


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Luc Mccarragher on Sunday, April 26, 2015 16:49:28
    Re: Delay to sbbsecho.exe -linf Execution
    By: Luc Mccarragher to All on Sun Apr 26 2015 09:39:59

    it's possible to delay the Fonction , sbbsecho.exe -linf
    or RUN at the end of the call automaticly
    for now it's run everytime i post a message
    i prefer SBBS to handle it and not use a .BAT to scan msgs.......

    Synchronet should have an event set up by default that does that, called FIDOOUT, in SCFG > External Programs > Timed Events, which is set to run a certain number of times per day.. I have never heard of sbbsecho being run every time a message is posted as you are describing.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Luc Mccarragher on Monday, April 27, 2015 01:30:28
    Re: Delay to sbbsecho.exe -linf Execution
    By: Luc Mccarragher to All on Sun Apr 26 2015 09:39 am

    Hi synchronet users

    it's possible to delay the Fonction , sbbsecho.exe -linf
    or RUN at the end of the call automaticly
    for now it's run everytime i post a message
    i prefer SBBS to handle it and not use a .BAT to scan msgs.......

    Was that supposed to be a question?

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Luc Mccarragher on Monday, April 27, 2015 13:08:18
    On Sun, 26 Apr 2015, Luc Mccarragher wrote to mark lewis:

    sbbsecho is generally triggered in the event system by the
    presence of the semaphore FIDOOUT... disable that event or modify
    it to execute at a specific time... if you disable it, you might
    be able to run sbbsecho as a logout event... you might want to
    have it not run if there are other users logged in...

    logout Event = i will try this

    ok... let us know how it works ;)

    BTW: you might want to get with your fidonet NC and see about having that Down flag removed from your node entry...

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, April 27, 2015 13:09:28
    On Sun, 26 Apr 2015, Nightfox wrote to Luc Mccarragher:

    it's possible to delay the Fonction , sbbsecho.exe -linf or RUN at
    the end of the call automaticly for now it's run everytime i post
    a message i prefer SBBS to handle it and not use a .BAT to scan msgs.......

    Synchronet should have an event set up by default that does that,
    called FIDOOUT, in SCFG > External Programs > Timed Events, which
    is set to run a certain number of times per day.. I have never
    heard of sbbsecho being run every time a message is posted as you
    are describing.

    by default, it does... if your's is going a certain times, you must have changed it at some point ;)

    this is one of the things that max and i ran into... one of us asked about how to change it some months back... the way we discovered it was because when we went to edit messages that we had written, we found that they had already been scanned out and sent off... watching the sbbsecho.log file confirmed this...

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to mark lewis on Monday, April 27, 2015 12:56:42
    Synchronet should have an event set up by default that does that,
    called FIDOOUT, in SCFG > External Programs > Timed Events, which
    is set to run a certain number of times per day.. I have never
    heard of sbbsecho being run every time a message is posted as you
    are describing.

    by default, it does... if your's is going a certain times, you must have changed it at some point ;)

    this is one of the things that max and i ran into... one of us asked about how to change it some months back... the way we discovered it was because when we went to edit messages that we had written, we found that they had already been scanned out and sent off... watching the sbbsecho.log file confirmed this...

    Interesting.. I don't think I've changed my setting for the FIDOOUT event. Maybe I did and I forgot I changed it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Luc Mccarragher on Monday, April 27, 2015 18:15:15
    Re: Delay to sbbsecho.exe -linf Execution
    By: Luc Mccarragher to All on Sun Apr 26 2015 09:39 am

    Hi synchronet users

    it's possible to delay the Fonction , sbbsecho.exe -linf
    or RUN at the end of the call automaticly
    for now it's run everytime i post a message
    i prefer SBBS to handle it and not use a .BAT to scan msgs.......



    you should not be running that crap after every call, or everytime you
    post a msg.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Monday, April 27, 2015 18:42:06
    Re: Delay to sbbsecho.exe -linf Execution
    By: Nightfox to mark lewis on Mon Apr 27 2015 12:56 pm

    they had already been scanned out and sent off... watching the sbbsecho.log file confirmed this...

    Interesting.. I don't think I've changed my setting for the FIDOOUT event. Maybe I did and I forgot I changed it.


    i've always disabled that stuff and ran all my polls from a batchfile.
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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Nightfox on Monday, April 27, 2015 18:13:03
    On Mon, 27 Apr 2015, Nightfox wrote to mark lewis:

    Synchronet should have an event set up by default that does that,
    called FIDOOUT, in SCFG > External Programs > Timed Events, which
    is set to run a certain number of times per day.. I have never
    heard of sbbsecho being run every time a message is posted as you
    are describing.

    by default, it does... if your's is going a certain times, you must have changed it at some point ;)

    this is one of the things that max and i ran into... one of us asked about how to change it some months back... the way we discovered it was because when we went to edit messages that we had written, we found that they had already been scanned out and sent off... watching the sbbsecho.log file confirmed this...

    Interesting.. I don't think I've changed my setting for the FIDOOUT
    event. Maybe I did and I forgot I changed it.

    possibly... IIRC, and without going and specifically looking, that event is set
    up as a semaphore event thus the use of FIDOOUT to trigger it... in the case of
    a system wanting to execute the event at logoff, they have to use a different method... i have a neuron kicking at me hindbrain saying that there's some place that the FIDOOUT semaphore is also specified and that it has something to
    do with when messages are posted but that neuron may be being confused by another aspect of sync's events being able to be triggered by creating a semaphore based on the event's internal name or something like that...

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  • From Joe Delahaye@VERT to mark lewis on Monday, April 27, 2015 19:13:11
    Re: Delay to sbbsecho.exe -linf Execution
    By: mark lewis to Luc Mccarragher on Mon Apr 27 2015 13:08:18

    BTW: you might want to get with your fidonet NC and see about having that Down flag removed from your node entry...


    Already done. Will appear normal this Friday. My mistake. Put the Down on the wrong node.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to mark lewis on Monday, April 27, 2015 17:06:40
    Re: Delay to sbbsecho.exe -linf Execution
    By: mark lewis to Nightfox on Mon Apr 27 2015 01:09 pm


    On Sun, 26 Apr 2015, Nightfox wrote to Luc Mccarragher:

    it's possible to delay the Fonction , sbbsecho.exe -linf or RUN at
    the end of the call automaticly for now it's run everytime i post
    a message i prefer SBBS to handle it and not use a .BAT to scan msgs.......

    Synchronet should have an event set up by default that does that,
    called FIDOOUT, in SCFG > External Programs > Timed Events, which
    is set to run a certain number of times per day.. I have never
    heard of sbbsecho being run every time a message is posted as you
    are describing.

    by default, it does... if your's is going a certain times, you must have changed it at some point ;)

    this is one of the things that max and i ran into... one of us asked about how to change it some months back... the way we discovered it was because when we went to edit messages that we had written, we found that they had already been scanned out and sent off... watching the sbbsecho.log file confirmed this...

    That is the expected behavior when the EchoMail Sempahore File or the Sub-board's Semaphore File is set (in SCFG) to trigger the SBBSecho export event (e.g. FIDOOUT.NOW). Usually it's considered a "feature" to have the mail go out ASAP. :-)

    digital man

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  • From spacesst@VERT/SPACESST to mark lewis on Monday, April 27, 2015 18:21:37
    Re: Delay to sbbsecho.exe -linf Execution
    By: mark lewis to Luc Mccarragher on Mon Apr 27 2015 13:08:18

    BTW: you might want to get with your fidonet NC and see about having that Down flag removed from your node entry...

    you write i just see it
    thx

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Mro on Monday, April 27, 2015 22:11:24
    On Mon, 27 Apr 2015, Mro wrote to Luc Mccarragher:

    it's possible to delay the Fonction , sbbsecho.exe -linf
    or RUN at the end of the call automaticly
    for now it's run everytime i post a message
    i prefer SBBS to handle it and not use a .BAT to scan msgs.......

    you should not be running that crap after every call, or everytime
    you post a msg.

    the default sbbs installation does exactly this... perhaps you mean that folks should know more about the software they are using than that which is normally available??? does anyone remember what it means to install software with the defaults and they are actually meaningful without causing problems for any other systems?????

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Monday, April 27, 2015 22:16:10
    On Mon, 27 Apr 2015, Digital Man wrote to mark lewis:

    this is one of the things that max and i ran into... one of us asked
    about how to change it some months back... the way we discovered it
    was because when we went to edit messages that we had written, we
    found that they had already been scanned out and sent off...
    watching the sbbsecho.log file confirmed this...

    That is the expected behavior when the EchoMail Sempahore File or
    the Sub-board's Semaphore File is set (in SCFG) to trigger the
    SBBSecho export event (e.g. FIDOOUT.NOW). Usually it's considered
    a "feature" to have the mail go out ASAP. :-)

    exactly! but the problem appears when one wants to edit their original post to clean up things or clarify something... that's when the python bites one in the
    ass...

    in other words, not really as good an idea as was originally thought ;)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to mark lewis on Tuesday, April 28, 2015 08:01:32
    Re: Delay to sbbsecho.exe -linf Execution
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Mon Apr 27 2015 22:16:10

    SBBSecho export event (e.g. FIDOOUT.NOW). Usually it's considered
    a "feature" to have the mail go out ASAP. :-)

    exactly! but the problem appears when one wants to edit their original post to clean up things or clarify something... that's when the python bites one in the ass...

    in other words, not really as good an idea as was originally thought ;)

    Sometimes I've wished editing messages was more of a standard in internet email. I've worked for companies that have used Microsoft Outlook for email, along with Microsoft's Exchange email server, which has a "message recall" feature - You can use message recall to basically cancel your email, edit it, and send a new version of your email. It works best when the recipient(s) have not yet received your original email; otherwise, they will see your original email and also get a recall notice along with your new email.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to mark lewis on Tuesday, April 28, 2015 16:41:22
    Re: Delay to sbbsecho.exe -linf Execution
    By: mark lewis to Mro on Mon Apr 27 2015 10:11 pm


    you should not be running that crap after every call, or everytime
    you post a msg.

    the default sbbs installation does exactly this... perhaps you mean that folks should know more about the software they are using than that which is normally available??? does anyone remember what it means to install
    software with the defaults and they are actually meaningful without causing


    man that's the default setting? that's fucking stupid.
    might be okay for someone that gets one call a day but there were times when some of my bbses were getting 20 or more calls a day.

    i'm glad i disabled all that stuff and did hourly events.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to mark lewis on Tuesday, April 28, 2015 16:42:27
    Re: Delay to sbbsecho.exe -linf Execution
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Mon Apr 27 2015 10:16 pm

    the Sub-board's Semaphore File is set (in SCFG) to trigger the SBBSecho export event (e.g. FIDOOUT.NOW). Usually it's considered
    a "feature" to have the mail go out ASAP. :-)

    exactly! but the problem appears when one wants to edit their original post to clean up things or clarify something... that's when the python bites one in the ass...


    yeah, that's a poorly thought out feature that should be removed.
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