Anybody dealt much with ftelnet?
I can't seem to find any documentation, and was wondering if it was possible to set a size for it and possibly scale it depending on browser window size?

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Re: Another semi-random question
By: Kostie Muirhead to All on Fri Apr 17 2015 06:34 pm

Anybody dealt much with ftelnet?
I can't seem to find any documentation, and was wondering if it was
possible to set a size for it and possibly scale it depending on browser window size?

the information is in the actual configuration files
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Re: Another semi-random question
By: Kostie Muirhead to All on Fri Apr 17 2015 18:34:03

Anybody dealt much with ftelnet?
I can't seem to find any documentation, and was wondering if it was possible to set a size for it and possibly scale it depending on browser window size?

There is some documentation available in the fTelnet package that's available for download. On the fTelnet site (http://www.ftelnet.ca), click the 'Download' link on the top toolbar, then scroll down a bit - Under the heading "Self-host the client, use the public proxy" and "Self-host everything", there's a link that says "Download the client". That should take you to the GitHub page for fTelnet. On that page, click the 'Download ZIP' link. Unzip that, and then go to the fTelnet-master\release\docs directory and open index.html. There's a section in that page titled "How to customize", which lists some JavaScript properties you can set to control fTelnet. Two of the properties are ScreenColumns and ScreenRows, which let you set the number of columns & rows. As far as detecting the browser window size and scaling, I'm not sure on that, but I'd guess that there are probably some JavaScript functions that let you detect browser window size.

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Anybody dealt much with ftelnet?
I can't seem to find any documentation, and was wondering if it was possible to set a size for it and possibly scale it depending on browser window size?

I find that Ftelnet seems to display at 720 x 400 no matter what dimensions are specified. However, Ftelnet recommends keeping the dimensions at 100% x 100% in a web environment.

Kind regards,
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Re: Re: Another semi-random question
By: Skatin to Kostie Muirhead on Fri Apr 17 2015 21:54:52

I find that Ftelnet seems to display at 720 x 400 no matter what dimensions are specified. However, Ftelnet recommends keeping the dimensions at 100% x 100% in a web environment.
Kind regards,
Skatin

That's kinda what I was afraid of. 720x400 just looks too pathetic on 1080p displays.

Dang.
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Re: Re: Another semi-random question
By: Skatin to Kostie Muirhead on Fri Apr 17 2015 09:54 pm

Anybody dealt much with ftelnet?
I can't seem to find any documentation, and was wondering if it was possible to set a size for it and possibly scale it depending on browser window size?

I find that Ftelnet seems to display at 720 x 400 no matter what dimensions are specified. However, Ftelnet recommends keeping the dimensions at 100% x 100% in a web environment.

I'd like to point it out that ftelnet has a contact link where you
can talk to the author. he's also on irc frequently.
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Re: Re: Another semi-random question
By: Underminer to Skatin on Sat Apr 18 2015 12:10 am

I find that Ftelnet seems to display at 720 x 400 no matter what dimensions are specified. However, Ftelnet recommends keeping the dimensions at 100% x 100% in a web environment.

That's kinda what I was afraid of. 720x400 just looks too pathetic on 1080p displays.

it looks great to me and i have large displays
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Re: Another semi-random question
By: Kostie Muirhead to All on Fri Apr 17 2015 18:34:03

Anybody dealt much with ftelnet?
I can't seem to find any documentation, and was wondering if it was possible to set a size for it and possibly scale it depending on browser window size?

Probaly possible to set auto ajust to the size of the Windows
Look inside the scripts that set the size of BOX replace with 100%

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Re: Another semi-random question
By: Nightfox to Kostie Muirhead on Fri Apr 17 2015 20:30:29

There is some documentation available in the fTelnet package that's available for download. On the fTelnet site (http://www.ftelnet.ca), click the 'Download' link on the top toolbar, then scroll down a bit - Under the heading "Self-host the client, use the public proxy" and "Self-host everything", there's a link that says "Download the client". That should control fTelnet. Two of the properties are ScreenColumns and ScreenRows, which let you set the number of columns & rows. As far as detecting the browser window size and scaling, I'm not sure on that, but I'd guess that there are probably some JavaScript functions that let you detect browser window size.

Thanks Night, Unfortunately doesn't look like I can get it quite as large as I'd like it on 1080p+ screens, but it's still good info in there.

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Re: Re: Another semi-random question
By: Mro to Underminer on Sat Apr 18 2015 10:35:43

it looks great to me and i have large displays

The Quality is good, but the text is pretty small for some folks.
Personally I like running syncterm fullscreen on a secondary 19" (non-widescreen) to get the real experience.
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Re: Re: Another semi-random question
By: Kostie Muirhead to Mro on Sun Apr 19 2015 03:48 pm

Re: Re: Another semi-random question
By: Mro to Underminer on Sat Apr 18 2015 10:35:43

it looks great to me and i have large displays

The Quality is good, but the text is pretty small for some folks.
Personally I like running syncterm fullscreen on a secondary 19" (non-widescreen) to get the real experience.

i dont know why you think the text is pretty small.

are they sitting across the room?

ir an syncterm fullscreen and i didnt like it scaled to my large display.
for me it didnt look genuine like the old days when your client was full screen.
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Re: Re: Another semi-random question
By: Mro to Kostie Muirhead on Sun Apr 19 2015 21:14:42

i dont know why you think the text is pretty small.
are they sitting across the room?

Does it matter? Why are you trying to judge a subjective thing? Either way, on a 23" 1080p display it's somewhere between half and 2/3 of the size of average webpage text. Plenty of people find that uncomfortable. If you don't, that's fine, but why judge when someone asks a simple question about resizing?

ir an syncterm fullscreen and i didnt like it scaled to my large display. for me it didnt look genuine like the old days when your client was full screen.

YMMV, I don't like the fullscreen on any widescreen displays, or bigger than 20-ish inches, but I find on the older 19" I found sitting around that fullscreen comes very very close to the old terminal experience. Like I say, YMMV.
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Re: Re: Another semi-random question
By: Kostie Muirhead to Mro on Sun Apr 19 2015 09:38 pm

i dont know why you think the text is pretty small.
are they sitting across the room?

Does it matter? Why are you trying to judge a subjective thing?

well to be fair, you are the guy saying people can't read it.
i was just trying to figure out what you were talking about, cause
looks fine to me.

Plenty of people find that uncomfortable. If you
don't, that's fine, but why judge when someone asks a simple question about resizing?

so who exactly are these people that find it uncomfortable?
dont get all defensive and call it judging. you are giving your opinion and i'm giving mine.

also did you ever contact the author?
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Re: Re: Another semi-random question
By: Mro to Kostie Muirhead on Mon Apr 20 2015 18:12:17

so who exactly are these people that find it uncomfortable?
dont get all defensive and call it judging. you are giving your opinion and i'm giving mine.

It's the feedback I get from users who have tried it, and I tend to agree. While it is readable, it's more uncomfortable to do so than even a standard web page.

also did you ever contact the author?

That seems to be your answer to everything, and it's not helpful. Want to know why it's a good idea for people to ask in an echo or forum first? Author's tend to get a lot of the same questions, and if that question can be answered by others who have dealt with the same issues instead, it provides that answer for any other people who might be looking for it so that they also do not have to contact the author. This allows the author to actually have a chance to respond to less frequently asked questions.

If you insist on telling everyone to contact the author, might I suggest you at least make that input SOMEWHAT useful by AT LEAST sharing some input on what you have found to be the best way to contact people? Because quite frankly, people can figure out that contacting a developer is an option without you stating it as a reply to every question. /Rant
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Re: Re: Another semi-random question
By: Kostie Muirhead to Mro on Mon Apr 20 2015 06:50 pm

dont get all defensive and call it judging. you are giving your
opinion and i'm giving mine.

It's the feedback I get from users who have tried it, and I tend to agree. While it is readable, it's more uncomfortable to do so than even a standard web page.

i dont believe you. i think it's YOUR personal opinion.

also did you ever contact the author?

That seems to be your answer to everything, and it's not helpful. Want to

it makes sense to contact an author about a question or issue, especially when it's someone that's active. this is something that is still being developed and the author benefits from feedback.

and it's not helpful. Want to
know why it's a good idea for people to ask in an echo or forum first?

this is just your opinion again.

If you insist on telling everyone to contact the author, might I suggest
you at least make that input SOMEWHAT useful by AT LEAST sharing some input

i'm pretty sure i did share some imput. i said the information is in the settings files.

whats so wrong about contacting the author? is that kryponite to you?

frankly, people can figure out that contacting a developer is an option without you stating it as a reply to every question. /Rant

frankly i think these "people" are too stupid to think to do it first.
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Re: Re: Another semi-random question
By: Kostie Muirhead to Mro on Sun Apr 19 2015 09:38 pm

why judge when someone asks a simple question

That's his thing. He's a moron that you'll eventually learn to ignore and not reply to.

I'm one of the lucky ones who have managed to get onto his twitlist so he never
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Re: Re: Another semi-random question
By: Deuce to Kostie Muirhead on Mon Apr 20 2015 18:34:20

That's his thing. He's a moron that you'll eventually learn to ignore and not reply to.
I'm one of the lucky ones who have managed to get onto his twitlist so he never sees my messages, and never replies to my posts.

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Re: Another semi-random question
By: Kostie Muirhead to All on Fri Apr 17 2015 06:34 pm

Anybody dealt much with ftelnet?
I can't seem to find any documentation, and was wondering if it was possible set a size for it and possibly scale it depending on browser window size?

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Probably using twitter bootstrap and an iFrame.
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Anybody dealt much with ftelnet?
I can't seem to find any documentation, and was wondering if it was
possible to set a size for it and possibly scale it depending on browser window size?

The flash-based version of fTelnet that comes with Synchronet does not support auto-sizing based on the browser window size. At least not natively...using some javascript this would be possible.

The new html5-based version of fTelnet natively supports this, but I haven't gotten around to putting it on cvs, so you have to manually set it up with Synchronet. The easiest way to do so is to embed it via an iframe, the code for which you can generate at http://embed.ftelnet.ca

Make sure you enable the websocketservice.js service, and then use the "I run my own proxy" option when using the embed wizard.

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On Mon, 27 Apr 2015, LaRRy LaGoMoRpH wrote to Kostie Muirhead:

Anybody dealt much with ftelnet? I can't seem to find any
documentation, and was wondering if it was possible set a size for
it and possibly scale it depending on browser window size?

Probably using twitter bootstrap and an iFrame.

ouch.. yuck! puke!!! especially the iframe aspect...

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On Mon, 27 Apr 2015, LaRRy LaGoMoRpH wrote to Kostie Muirhead:

Anybody dealt much with ftelnet? I can't seem to find any documentation, and was wondering if it was possible set a size for
it and possibly scale it depending on browser window size?

Probably using twitter bootstrap and an iFrame.

ouch.. yuck! puke!!! especially the iframe aspect...

This is exactly the kind of thing iframe was meant for. Just because some people use them stupidly doesn't mean they're bad for all use-cases (see "goto").

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Re: Another semi-random question
By: mark lewis to LaRRy LaGoMoRpH on Mon Apr 27 2015 10:10 pm

On Mon, 27 Apr 2015, LaRRy LaGoMoRpH wrote to Kostie Muirhead:

Anybody dealt much with ftelnet? I can't seem to find any
documentation, and was wondering if it was possible set a size for
it and possibly scale it depending on browser window size?

Probably using twitter bootstrap and an iFrame.

ouch.. yuck! puke!!! especially the iframe aspect...

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I like the way you use your inability to digest food as evidence of an informed opinion. If you have something constructive to say if it runs counter to my advice, please do so. Otherwise, I think bootstrap is your friend. I'm not trying to sell something here; just trying to help. If you want to shit on my solution, that's fine, but I'd prefer you digest the food first.

Otherwise, I don't see what's such a bear about what I propose.

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