I have a ERR when i Post a msg With Synchronet
Post to: All
Aborted.

[Hit a key] Þ

The config of Fedit
I can not found the PROBLEM , When try other choose

E] External Editor : JS FSE

it work

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Just a test you ass hole!!!

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Re: test
By: Killerb to killerb on Fri Nov 27 2015 06:39 am

Just a test you ass hole!!!

Lol

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Hi Wilfred.

03 Feb 16 11:13, you wrote to Michael Buchholz:

@MSGID: 1936.fidotest@1:342/11 1b1706fb
@PID: Synchronet 3.16c-Linux Jan 11 2016 GCC 4.4.7
@TID: SBBSecho 2.27-Linux r1.261 Dec 12 2015 GCC 4.4.7

I'm too lazy to check the standards... But is this MSGID format correct?

'Tommi

* Originally in fidotest
* Crossposted in synchronet
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* Originally in FIDOTEST
* Crossposted in SYNCHRONET
Hi,

On 2016-02-03 19:26:34, Tommi Koivula wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
about: "test":

@MSGID: 1936.fidotest@1:342/11 1b1706fb

I'm too lazy to check the standards... But is this MSGID format
correct?

Well fts-0009.001 says:

^AMSGID: origaddr serialno

The originating address should be specified in a form that
constitutes a valid return address for the originating network.

Since the second field is supposed to be a fidonet address, because that's the originating network, I would say it's not valid according to ftsc standards...


Bye, Wilfred.


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Hi Wilfred.

03 Feb 16 19:11, you wrote to me:

* Originally in FIDOTEST
* Crossposted in SYNCHRONET
Hi,

On 2016-02-03 19:26:34, Tommi Koivula wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
about: "test":

@MSGID: 1936.fidotest@1:342/11 1b1706fb

I'm too lazy to check the standards... But is this MSGID format
correct?

Well fts-0009.001 says:

^AMSGID: origaddr serialno

The originating address should be specified in a form that
constitutes a valid return address for the originating network.

Since the second field is supposed to be a fidonet address, because
that's the originating network, I would say it's not valid according
to ftsc standards...

That's what I was thinking... Well it is a problem for SoupGate. See the difference:

From: Michael Buchholz <Michael.Buchholz@f360.n221.z1936.fidonet.org>
From: Wilfred van Velzen <Wilfred.van.Velzen@f464.n280.z2.rbb.dy.fi>

Apparently SoupGate tries to read MSGID when writing ftn messages to nntp.

Not a big issue, but anyways.

'Tommi

* Originally in synchronet
* Crossposted in fidotest
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03 Feb 16 19:26, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

@MSGID: 1936.fidotest@1:342/11 1b1706fb
@PID: Synchronet 3.16c-Linux Jan 11 2016 GCC 4.4.7
@TID: SBBSecho 2.27-Linux r1.261 Dec 12 2015 GCC 4.4.7

I'm too lazy to check the standards... But is this MSGID format correct?

as replied in the other area, non-traditional but still within the standard...

)\/(ark

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* Originally in SYNCHRONET
* Crossposted in FIDOTEST
Hi,

On 2016-02-03 13:21:48, mark lewis wrote to Tommi Koivula:
about: "test":

@MSGID: 1936.fidotest@1:342/11 1b1706fb

I'm too lazy to check the standards... But is this MSGID format
correct?

as replied in the other area, non-traditional but still within the standard...

Which standard is that? And if the answer is fts-0009.001, have you red it?

Bye, Wilfred.


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* Originally in fidotest
* Crossposted in synchronet

03 Feb 16 20:34, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

That's what I was thinking... Well it is a problem for SoupGate. See the difference:

From: Michael Buchholz <Michael.Buchholz@f360.n221.z1936.fidonet.org>
From: Wilfred van Velzen <Wilfred.van.Velzen@f464.n280.z2.rbb.dy.fi>

Apparently SoupGate tries to read MSGID when writing ftn messages to nntp.

yes, soupgate is broken... it should not be using the information in the MSGID for the address of the sender... that's what the /origin line/ is for ;)

Not a big issue, but anyways.

actually, it is a big issue because it causes invalid return addresses on the other side of the gateway...

)\/(ark

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* Forwarded from fidotest by mark lewis (1:3634/12.73)
* Originally by: mark lewis (1:3634/12.73), 03 Feb 16 16:44
* Originally to: Michiel van der Vlist


03 Feb 16 18:42, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

"1936.fidotest@1:342/1" is not a valid return address for the

originating

network.

sure it is... it is actually more detailed than required because it points to the actual message and echo area @ the FTN address...

)\/(ark

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* Originally in fidotest
* Crossposted in synchronet

04 Feb 16 00:27, you wrote to me:

"1936.fidotest@1:342/1" is not a valid return address for the
originating network.

sure it is...

No, it is not.

where were ""you"" years and years ago when this was being discussed?? sbbs has
been using this format for (over? two?) decades... there were numerous discussions about it way back in the '90s and not really much other talk about it since then... the cat is long out of the bag and there's no putting it back... /me looks at ISDN and internet capabilities added over the years...

it is actually more detailed than required because it points to the
actual message and echo area @ the FTN address...

The originating address should be specified in a form that
constitutes a valid return address for the originating network.

It is the "more detailled" that makes it violate the requirement of "be specified in a form that constitutes a valid return address for the originating network".

disagree... the spec does not deny the ability to have more detailed information for the return address... the format has been in wide spread use for a long time and it should be documented or the spec should be clarified that more detailed information in the return address is allowed... synchronet is one of the most widely used BBS packages around... if the usage of something
is what drives the FTSC in its documentation tasks, then this is yet another failure of the FTSC to document what reality is in the FTNs in operation...

)\/(ark

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* Originally in fidotest
* Crossposted in synchronet

04 Feb 16 11:55, you wrote to me:

"1936.fidotest@1:342/1" is not a valid return address for the
originating network.

[..]

disagree...

Disagree all you want.

i will...

Try feeding it to any application that expects a Fidonet address:

OMG! you really think you can feed the entire line to software that doesn't have the first clue about the format like that?? :hugeeyeroll:

D:\FIDO\BINKD>binkd -nP1936.fidotest@1:342/1 binkd.cfg
11:54 [3388] BEGIN standalone, binkd/1.1a-89/Win32 -nP1936.fidotest@1:342/1 binkd.cfg ? 11:54 [3388] `1936.fidotest@1:342/1' cannot be parsed as a Fido-style address ! 11:54 [3388] Exit on option

'-n'

of course that's not going to work... it won't work because others have not implemented use of it (properly)... it certainly won't work with binkd for various reasons... PEBCAK and ID10T errors are no excuse... ""you"" are not following the FTSC mandate...

`1936.fidotest@1:342/1' cannot be parsed as a Fido-style address

FixYerShit!<tm> to properly parse the line... then we can talk...

Need I say more?

the format has been in use for well over a decade :shrug:

)\/(ark

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Re: test
By: Tommi Koivula to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Feb 03 2016 07:26 pm

@MSGID: 1936.fidotest@1:342/11 1b1706fb

I'm too lazy to check the standards... But is this MSGID format correct?

I'm too lazy to check the standard too, so yes.

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* Originally in fidotest
* Crossposted in synchronet

04 Feb 16 18:24, you wrote to me:

"1936.fidotest@1:342/1" is not a valid return address for the

the format has been in use for well over a decade :shrug:

tommi, i know you are joking but...

Not long enough.

there is no time limit specified anywhere and there's also no definition of "widespread"...

Only "well over a century" makes it right. ;D

hahaha... i can laugh at that, though ;)

)\/(ark

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* Originally in fidotest
* Crossposted in synchronet

04 Feb 16 17:16, you wrote to me:

Need I say more?

the format has been in use for well over a decade :shrug:

FTS-0009 is just over 24 years old. Much older than Synchronet's aberrant format. If that has been in use for well over a decade, then it has been

in

violation of te standard for well over a dacade.

riiiiiight... FTN standards are not absolute "this is how it must be done" standards... FTNs are not the internet... you cannot pick and choose... the FTSC either "documents current practise" or it does not... since the FTSC has no teeth (any more), then the ""standards"" cannot be enforced... especially since the software usage and the developers lead the standards...

This FTS (FidoNet(r) Technical Standard) specifies an optional
standard for the FidoNet community. Implementation of the
protocols defined in this document is not mandatory, but all
implementations of these protocols are expected to adhere to this
standard.

yes, i've seen that in many FTS documents but it fails miserably in the face of
the FTSC mantra of documenting current practise... i won't mention enforcement again... even moreso since ""you"" have snatched the capability of enforcement out of the hands of those that had it in the first place...

What is the point of having a standard if everyone violating it, can
force the rules to be adapted so that the rules comply with the abbererant's behaviour? If people start running red lights, do we
change the rules so that running a red light is OK from then on?

apparently the FTSC does exactly that...

Not while I am standing.

sorry to say but you're wrong on that... "the FTSC documents current practise"... and there's no enforcement teeth available any more since folks decided to remove that from pretty much everything... you can comtemplate on that and please don't forget to include all aspects of fidonet activities (eg: echo moderators, backbone distributions, enforcement of specifications, etc)...

)\/(ark

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From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

To: Ace

test number two

You failed...:)

... Why risk a hangover? Stay Drunk!!
Join StarNet Today.. Ftp://starfrontiers.dyndns.org/main/net/starnet.zip
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From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

To: Mindless Automaton
Re: test
By: Mindless Automaton to All on Wed Mar 23 2005 07:14 pm

Test message from web interface.

Got it.

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| weightloss.malkaviabbs.com - as well as others... |
| XpRESit NET - The ORIGINAL Synchronet Support Net - Malkavia BBS |
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Mindless wrote:

test
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Are you sure about that darktech.org domain name?

** server can't find eldritch.darktech.org: NXDOMAIN

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Re: Re: test
By: Nelgin to Mindless Automaton on Fri Oct 26 2018 01:52 pm

Mindless wrote:

test
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? Synchronet ? Eldritch Clockwork BBS - eldritch.darktech.org

Are you sure about that darktech.org domain name?

** server can't find eldritch.darktech.org: NXDOMAIN

darktech is done.
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test
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I charge $20 an hour ... $30 if you want a B+

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MRO wrote:

Re: Re: test
By: Nelgin to Mindless Automaton on Fri Oct 26 2018 01:52 pm

Mindless wrote:

test
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? Synchronet ? Eldritch Clockwork BBS - eldritch.darktech.org

Are you sure about that darktech.org domain name?

** server can't find eldritch.darktech.org: NXDOMAIN

darktech is done.

Yes, I know, which is why I was asking if OP was sure about the domain name.

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On 10-26-18 11:09, Mindless Automaton wrote to

DOVE-Net.Synchronet_Discussion <=-

test

Looks like it's working. :)

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On 10-26-18 13:52, Nelgin wrote to Mindless Automaton <=-

Are you sure about that darktech.org domain name?

** server can't find eldritch.darktech.org: NXDOMAIN

Yeah wasn't darktech.org one of those domains that was closed down a few months ago?


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Is this getting through?

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Re: test
By: Mike Welborn to All on Sat Nov 17 2018 01:42 pm

Is this getting through?

Yup. But the DOVE-Net Sysops conference is the preferred place to post test messages.

digital man

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Is this getting through?

Got it in Arkansas.

Daryl

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From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

To: Mike Welborn
Yep

On 14:42 17/11 , Mike Welborn wrote:

From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

Is this getting through?

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On 2018 Nov 17 12:14:46, you wrote to Mike Welborn:

Is this getting through?

Yup. But the DOVE-Net Sysops conference is the preferred place to post test messages.

he posted from the fidonet side of the fence... DOVE-Net Sysops is not available [t]here AFAIK ;)

)\/(ark

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Is this getting through?

Yes

Joe

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Re: test
By: Joe Schweier to Mike Welborn on Sun Nov 18 2018 05:02 am

Is this getting through?

Yes

Joe

Why you gotta give him hope and lie to him bro! *Grin*
Regards,
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From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet


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test

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Re: test
By: poison to All on Sun May 10 2020 05:29 pm

test

Looks good here in Florida!

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this is a test on the ham radio echo using multimail.
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Re: test
By: Codenut to All on Tue Jun 13 2023 12:02 pm

this is a test on the ham radio echo using multimail.

This is the Synchronet Discussion conference (not the HAM Radio echo).
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BY: Codenut (1:103/705)

this is a test on the ham radio echo using multimail.
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Lookin' Good. I have a friend up here in Ontario that does this kinda thing. Sadly, I only use 11m DX.

Mickey

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Re: Re: test
By: Mickey to Codenut on Tue Jun 13 2023 06:44 pm

this is a test on the ham radio echo using multimail.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Lookin' Good. I have a friend up here in Ontario that does this kinda thing. Sadly, I only use 11m DX.

looking good?
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